Breaking developments and Donald Trumps throat and document. Judge Tanya Chutkan requests rejects the request from trumps team to delay the court proceedings. And televised the trial. Democrats are demanding cameras in the courtroom, are to win the fate of democracy depends on it. And it is a bust. House republicans wanted to expose Bottom Criminality and goggles the opposite. No evidence, no crime. Im Ayman Mohyeldin, lets get started. Tonight, we begin this hour with that Breaking News. U. S. District court judge Tanya Chutkan just ordered Donald TrumpsLegal Team Responds to the governments motion for a protective order but monday, at five pm eastern. That order would prohibit trump and his lawyers from Sharing Discovery materials with unauthorized people. The Special Counsel argues this social post from trump suggest he might intimidate witnesses. In part by improperly disclosing confidential evidence received from the government. Just moments ago, judge chutkan requested rejected a request from trump attempt to delay this proceedings, as the latest developments in this legal and political chaos three president s have been impeached and history. Just to have been arrested. Serres only one has been both impeached and arrested, and only one has the greatest Honor Of Being And Dot Three Times On Scores of Criminal Charges. Donald trump. The most indicted president in the history of america. He currently faces 78 different Criminal Charges, with more likely in the coming weeks. This will permanently change how donald trump will be remembered. The first president on the brink of not just one but multiple criminal trials. The most recent for charges, of course, come from the Election Interference case brought by Special Counsel jack smith, which include Conspiracy To Defraud the united states. Trump faces 40 counts in the classified documents case. The original indictment contained 37 counts, the superseding and ive added another three. Trump has pleaded not guilty in all three cases. He denies any wrongdoing. Lets be clear. Fulton County District attorney fani willis will likely be added more Criminal Charges to that total in the coming weeks, for trumps efforts to overturn the Election Result in her state. Thats not even including the True Civil Trials Trump is facing. The scope and scale is historic. It is quite unparalleled. One has to wonder, does the morality of a president still matter to the american people, or does it just matter or that your side winds . Joining me now is nbc president ial historian michael its great to see you again, thanks for coming back on the show. Lets start with your reaction to trumps social media post and the Special Counsels request for protective order. What do you make of this Rapid Development over the past 24 hours . Any other president , any other kicks president would have been presented with an order like the one judge chutkan issued. Even if he disagreed because every other president , moralis, with a few exceptions, has believed the rule of law. What donald trump has demonstrated, before he was president , through his presidency, right up to this not, this is someone who has contempt for the rule of law. Contempt for the institutions of our democracy, like the way we elect our president and transfer of power. The amazing thing is that he gets away with calling himself a conservative. A conservative believes and preserving his institutions of democracy. Conservative beliefs, above, all preserving the rule of law. Instead, what we see today, and tonight, is donald trump, despite this order by judge chutkan, threatening potential jurors and witnesses by saying, you go after me, i can after you. Thats a threat. Thats not a godfather movie, thats not american history. We are in a totally new different period. The other thing tonight. The judge specifically said, do not attack potential witnesses and what does he do . Hes twice attacked mike pence tonight. Thats basically thumbing his nose at the judge. We are now about to see what shes going to do about it. This almost looks to make historically like the weekend nonscientifically three, october, that Richard Nixon fire or his Special Prosecutor and all hell broke loose. You point out an interesting point in history. When you look at the big picture. Clinton and johnson were impeached. Grant was arrested for speeding in his horse carriage. But we have never seen anything like trump. Im curious to get your thoughts on whether or not at how our small d Democratic Institutions or system or prepared a built for somebody like donald trump. Somebody who his kind of like a bull in a china shop. Not just challenging our legal norms, but also breaking all of our political norms as well. Donald trumps who our founders dread. They always worry that someone could get and they talk about someone getting himself elected to the president for his reckless and lawless and a democratic. Out for his own power. And maybe ally, secretly, with foreign hostile governments. All of this finally came to pass, at least same, in the case of donald trump. Look at the guardrails, protections against. That you mentioned and patients. Well there have been all these impeachments. When was the president ever removed from office . If i happened. Not likely to ever happen in the future. What other constraints or they are against the president . Donald trump is president , he was presented with all sort of demand by congress. He ignored them. He appointed one third of the Supreme Court. He believes hes got a majority with five or six. And not in 74, july, frigid nixon lost a Supreme Court ruling on whether he would have to release types that nixon knew, privately, would be meaning hed have to quit or be removed from office. Even nixon, who was formidably obeyed the Supreme Court ruling. What would donald trump to in the same circumstances . I think we all know the answer to that. And we see what he has done, not only to the and solutions but even to the Republican Party and the way he continues to based him day after day. Michael beschloss, its always a pressure. Thank you, ayman, youre doing great. Picked up in history. Joining me now is Carlos Curbelo and david henderson, and jennifer horn, a former New Hampshire looking party chair and host of the is it just me or have we all lost our minds podcast, which i would argue is One Of The Best titled podcast out there right now. Jennifer, ill start with you. I want to get your thoughts on the developments of the past 24 hours but specifically trumps post. If you go after me, im coming after you. Is there any world in which this is not intimidation . Not by my definition of intimidation, certainly not. But you know, i think were missing part of the point here, as we were discussing this and the past 24 hours or 12 hours, however long that week has been up. Everyones worried about him trying to intimidate witnesses. Is he talking about, going after jack smith . Whos he going to go after . We have to be clear, this is a second audience for the. Tweet it is the donald trump jenner six posse. It is sending word out. Letting all those folks who have already showed they are willing to take up arms and defense of this man, no longer president , to kind of put them on alert. And when he says, its time to go after all these people who are going after me, theyre going to be ready to go. When i saw that tweet, i have to tell you. Very quickly my thoughts went to the potential for violence. This wasnt just about him trying to intimidate witnesses, its sending a be ready signal to those folks, as i just said, who have proven already that they are willing to take up arms for donald trump. David, you know, that was on the air tuesday went news 4 of the indictment. I quickly learned from speaking to some of the great legal minds rely on on the show about the importance of the judge in which are just two and a case. I think with age clips of that today. What did you make of judge Tanya Chutkan already denying the trump legal teams request for more time to respond to the Special Counsels Protective Order Motion . What does that tell us about her mindset and the way she will perhaps conduct this trial . In frank terms, ayman, he is trumps worst nightmare. She is his legal teams worst nightmare. Im going to be real when i say it, a black woman with a lower degree is a virtual unstoppable story when it comes to the justice system. Here is. What you are taking someone whos been subjected to two different forms of discrimination. Gender and. Rice and instructing them on the low of how things are supposed to work. Then you put them in an environment where people get mistreated based on who they are, if recycled of their career. Not youve got Somebody Walking into her courtroom saying, hang on a stick, and i deserve to be treated differently because i used to be is a powerful person and expected to become a super powerful person again. That is not going to work on her. Also, the techniques he typically uses that work on people, and telling them, ive been in positions more of headed pressure put on me. Its difficult to articulate how much pressure put on a person. But someone like judge chutkan has been called every name you can imagine. Shes been put under every form of pressure you can imagine. Its not going to work on her. I was on her legal team, i would tell them, this time you are playing on fire. I think the odds of him serving time, which are still knicks to zero, but judge chutkan is still the type of judge who would sentence him to serve time, because shes going to be equitable in terms of how she treats everybody in her courtroom. Shes already showing that with these current rulings. Great answer, david. Carlos, the magistrate judge warned trump of Witness Intimidation at his arraignment. Is a protective order the only way to keep him at line . Is he even go on tuesday and line . Hes probably not going to stay in line. I really do think thats the only instrument available. I think it is probably applied. You think about what donald trump is doing, you have to zoom out here. I think you did a great job of going through that with Michael Beschloss a few minutes ago. Donald trump is doing things that are the reason why, and this community, or olive in south florida, so many people have fled here. People do not want to see this in this country. People from countries like cuba, venezuela, nicaragua, worth the rule of law broke down and where dictators started intimidating people and and president people, punishing people for their beliefs and opposition. Donald trump is not hinting at the stuff, ayman, has been pretty transparent about it. The judicial system, the courts, i think have to use every instrument at their disposal to make sure that these processes can continue, cant go on the way theyre supposed to. And that people feel safe coming forward and telling the truth. Places like iran, with a lot more to discuss. After the break, we discuss the six unnamed coconspirators and the Trump Indictment and why they werent charged yet. But first, my friend richard is here are the headlines. Good evening, more Breaking News. A d. C. Judge deny a motion for former president Donald Trumps legal team. They requested a time extension to respond to a protective order request from the Special Counsels office. 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Former president , donald trump, for his efforts to reverse the 2020 election loss, federal prosecutors allege that trump actually enlisted six coconspirators to assist him in his criminal efforts to overturn the legitimate results of the 2020 president ial election. And to retain power. At least five of them are lawyers, according to this indictment. Lets go through some of them. Coconspirator one, who nbc news believes to be Rudy Giuliani. The indictment described him as an attorney who was willing to spread knowingly false claims, and pursue strategies that trumps 2020 Reelection Campaign would not pursue. Giuliani was essential to efforts by the trump team to overturn joe bidens nbc news has confirmed that Coconspirator To is not other than john eastman, Coconspirator To was an attorney who devised and attempted to implement a strategy to leverage the Vice President ceremonial role overseeing the Certification Proceeding to obstruct the certification of the president ial election. According to the indictment. Nbc news believes coconspirator three to be city powell, they died meant described her as an attorney whos Baseless Accusations Trump embraced and publicly amplified, even though he privately acknowledged to others that the unfounded claims of Election Fraud is sounded crazy. Coconspirator for appears to be jeffrey clark. Coconspirator for is described in the indictment as a Justice Department official who focused on civil matters, and worked with trump to use the Justice Department to open Sham Election crime investigations, and influence State Legislatures with knowingly false claims of Election Fraud. And coconspirator five appears to be kenneth chesebro, the indictment states that coconspirator five with an who assisted in devising and attempting to implement a plan to submit fraudulent states of president ial electors to obstruct the Certification Proceeding. The identity of Coconspirators Six is unknown. So far. But lets bring back my panel to discuss this. Congressman, ill start with you. Its worth noting that five of these coconspirators are lawyers. At least two of them were former attorneys for donald trump. What does it say about the conservative Legal Movement that so Many Republican lawyers were willing to submerge the laurel of law, also help one man stay in power. . It is remarkable, a man. These are the people that bill barr used to call the crazies, or whatever it is, these are people who have sullied to the legal profession. And the legal system in the united states. People go to a three attorneys for good advice, for an understanding of how the law works. For how the constitution works. Sure, to figure out how to gain advantage within those parameters, its