Breaking developments and Donald Trumps throat and document. Judge Tanya Chutkan requests rejects the request from trumps team to delay the court proceedings. And televised the trial. Democrats are demanding cameras in the courtroom, are to win the fate of democracy depends on it. And it is a bust. House republicans wanted to expose Bottom Criminality and goggles the opposite. No evidence, no crime. Im Ayman Mohyeldin, lets get started. Tonight, we begin this hour with that Breaking News. U. S. District court judge Tanya Chutkan just ordered Donald TrumpsLegal Team Responds to the governments motion for a protective order but monday, at five pm eastern. That order would prohibit trump and his lawyers from Sharing Discovery materials with unauthorized people. The Special Counsel argues this social post from trump suggest he might intimidate witnesses. In part by improperly disclosing confidential evidence received from the government. Just moments ago, judge chutkan requested rejected a request from trump attempt to delay this proceedings, as the latest developments in this legal and political chaos three president s have been impeached and history. Just to have been arrested. Serres only one has been both impeached and arrested, and only one has the greatest Honor Of Being And Dot Three Times On Scores of Criminal Charges. Donald trump. The most indicted president in the history of america. He currently faces 78 different Criminal Charges, with more likely in the coming weeks. This will permanently change how donald trump will be remembered. The first president on the brink of not just one but multiple criminal trials. The most recent for charges, of course, come from the Election Interference case brought by Special Counsel jack smith, which include Conspiracy To Defraud the united states. Trump faces 40 counts in the classified documents case. The original indictment contained 37 counts, the superseding and ive added another three. Trump has pleaded not guilty in all three cases. He denies any wrongdoing. Lets be clear. Fulton County District attorney fani willis will likely be added more Criminal Charges to that total in the coming weeks, for trumps efforts to overturn the Election Result in her state. Thats not even including the True Civil Trials Trump is facing. The scope and scale is historic. It is quite unparalleled. One has to wonder, does the morality of a president still matter to the american people, or does it just matter or that your side winds . Joining me now is nbc president ial historian michael its great to see you again, thanks for coming back on the show. Lets start with your reaction to trumps social media post and the Special Counsels request for protective order. What do you make of this Rapid Development over the past 24 hours . Any other president , any other kicks president would have been presented with an order like the one judge chutkan issued. Even if he disagreed because every other president , moralis, with a few exceptions, has believed the rule of law. What donald trump has demonstrated, before he was president , through his presidency, right up to this not, this is someone who has contempt for the rule of law. Contempt for the institutions of our democracy, like the way we elect our president and transfer of power. The amazing thing is that he gets away with calling himself a conservative. A conservative believes and preserving his institutions of democracy. Conservative beliefs, above, all preserving the rule of law. Instead, what we see today, and tonight, is donald trump, despite this order by judge chutkan, threatening potential jurors and witnesses by saying, you go after me, i can after you. Thats a threat. Thats not a godfather movie, thats not american history. We are in a totally new different period. The other thing tonight. The judge specifically said, do not attack potential witnesses and what does he do . Hes twice attacked mike pence tonight. Thats basically thumbing his nose at the judge. We are now about to see what shes going to do about it. This almost looks to make historically like the weekend nonscientifically three, october, that Richard Nixon fire or his Special Prosecutor and all hell broke loose. You point out an interesting point in history. When you look at the big picture. Clinton and johnson were impeached. Grant was arrested for speeding in his horse carriage. But we have never seen anything like trump. Im curious to get your thoughts on whether or not at how our small d Democratic Institutions or system or prepared a built for somebody like donald trump. Somebody who his kind of like a bull in a china shop. Not just challenging our legal norms, but also breaking all of our political norms as well. Donald trumps who our founders dread. They always worry that someone could get and they talk about someone getting himself elected to the president for his reckless and lawless and a democratic. Out for his own power. And maybe ally, secretly, with foreign hostile governments. All of this finally came to pass, at least same, in the case of donald trump. Look at the guardrails, protections against. That you mentioned and patients. Well there have been all these impeachments. When was the president ever removed from office . If i happened. Not likely to ever happen in the future. What other constraints or they are against the president . Donald trump is president , he was presented with all sort of demand by congress. He ignored them. He appointed one third of the Supreme Court. He believes hes got a majority with five or six. And not in 74, july, frigid nixon lost a Supreme Court ruling on whether he would have to release types that nixon knew, privately, would be meaning hed have to quit or be removed from office. Even nixon, who was formidably obeyed the Supreme Court ruling. What would donald trump to in the same circumstances . I think we all know the answer to that. And we see what he has done, not only to the and solutions but even to the Republican Party and the way he continues to based him day after day. Michael beschloss, its always a pressure. Thank you, ayman, youre doing great. Picked up in history. Joining me now is Carlos Curbelo and david henderson, and jennifer horn, a former New Hampshire looking party chair and host of the is it just me or have we all lost our minds podcast, which i would argue is One Of The Best titled podcast out there right now. Jennifer, ill start with you. I want to get your thoughts on the developments of the past 24 hours but specifically trumps post. If you go after me, im coming after you. Is there any world in which this is not intimidation . Not by my definition of intimidation, certainly not. But you know, i think were missing part of the point here, as we were discussing this and the past 24 hours or 12 hours, however long that week has been up. Everyones worried about him trying to intimidate witnesses. Is he talking about, going after jack smith . Whos he going to go after . We have to be clear, this is a second audience for the. Tweet it is the donald trump jenner six posse. It is sending word out. Letting all those folks who have already showed they are willing to take up arms and defense of this man, no longer president , to kind of put them on alert. And when he says, its time to go after all these people who are going after me, theyre going to be ready to go. When i saw that tweet, i have to tell you. Very quickly my thoughts went to the potential for violence. This wasnt just about him trying to intimidate witnesses, its sending a be ready signal to those folks, as i just said, who have proven already that they are willing to take up arms for donald trump. David, you know, that was on the air tuesday went news 4 of the indictment. I quickly learned from speaking to some of the great legal minds rely on on the show about the importance of the judge in which are just two and a case. I think with age clips of that today. What did you make of judge Tanya Chutkan already denying the trump legal teams request for more time to respond to the Special Counsels Protective Order Motion . What does that tell us about her mindset and the way she will perhaps conduct this trial . In frank terms, ayman, he is trumps worst nightmare. She is his legal teams worst nightmare. Im going to be real when i say it, a black woman with a lower degree is a virtual unstoppable story when it comes to the justice system. Here is. What you are taking someone whos been subjected to two different forms of discrimination. Gender and. Rice and instructing them on the low of how things are supposed to work. Then you put them in an environment where people get mistreated based on who they are, if recycled of their career. Not youve got Somebody Walking into her courtroom saying, hang on a stick, and i deserve to be treated differently because i used to be is a powerful person and expected to become a super powerful person again. That is not going to work on her. Also, the techniques he typically uses that work on people, and telling them, ive been in positions more of headed pressure put on me. Its difficult to articulate how much pressure put on a person. But someone like judge chutkan has been called every name you can imagine. Shes been put under every form of pressure you can imagine. Its not going to work on her. I was on her legal team, i would tell them, this time you are playing on fire. I think the odds of him serving time, which are still knicks to zero, but judge chutkan is still the type of judge who would sentence him to serve time, because shes going to be equitable in terms of how she treats everybody in her courtroom. Shes already showing that with these current rulings. Great answer, david. Carlos, the magistrate judge warned trump of Witness Intimidation at his arraignment. Is a protective order the only way to keep him at line . Is he even go on tuesday and line . Hes probably not going to stay in line. I really do think thats the only instrument available. I think it is probably applied. You think about what donald trump is doing, you have to zoom out here. I think you did a great job of going through that with Michael Beschloss a few minutes ago. Donald trump is doing things that are the reason why, and this community, or olive in south florida, so many people have fled here. People do not want to see this in this country. People from countries like cuba, venezuela, nicaragua, worth the rule of law broke down and where dictators started intimidating people and and president people, punishing people for their beliefs and opposition. Donald trump is not hinting at the stuff, ayman, has been pretty transparent about it. The judicial system, the courts, i think have to use every instrument at their disposal to make sure that these processes can continue, cant go on the way theyre supposed to. And that people feel safe coming forward and telling the truth. Places like iran, with a lot more to discuss. After the break, we discuss the six unnamed coconspirators and the Trump Indictment and why they werent charged yet. But first, my friend richard is here are the headlines. Good evening, more Breaking News. A d. C. Judge deny a motion for former president Donald Trumps legal team. They requested a time extension to respond to a protective order request from the Special Counsels office. 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Former president , donald trump, for his efforts to reverse the 2020 election loss, federal prosecutors allege that trump actually enlisted six coconspirators to assist him in his criminal efforts to overturn the legitimate results of the 2020 president ial election. And to retain power. At least five of them are lawyers, according to this indictment. Lets go through some of them. Coconspirator one, who nbc news believes to be Rudy Giuliani. The indictment described him as an attorney who was willing to spread knowingly false claims, and pursue strategies that trumps 2020 Reelection Campaign would not pursue. Giuliani was essential to efforts by the trump team to overturn joe bidens nbc news has confirmed that Coconspirator To is not other than john eastman, Coconspirator To was an attorney who devised and attempted to implement a strategy to leverage the Vice President ceremonial role overseeing the Certification Proceeding to obstruct the certification of the president ial election. According to the indictment. Nbc news believes coconspirator three to be city powell, they died meant described her as an attorney whos Baseless Accusations Trump embraced and publicly amplified, even though he privately acknowledged to others that the unfounded claims of Election Fraud is sounded crazy. Coconspirator for appears to be jeffrey clark. Coconspirator for is described in the indictment as a Justice Department official who focused on civil matters, and worked with trump to use the Justice Department to open Sham Election crime investigations, and influence State Legislatures with knowingly false claims of Election Fraud. And coconspirator five appears to be kenneth chesebro, the indictment states that coconspirator five with an who assisted in devising and attempting to implement a plan to submit fraudulent states of president ial electors to obstruct the Certification Proceeding. The identity of Coconspirators Six is unknown. So far. But lets bring back my panel to discuss this. Congressman, ill start with you. Its worth noting that five of these coconspirators are lawyers. At least two of them were former attorneys for donald trump. What does it say about the conservative Legal Movement that so Many Republican lawyers were willing to submerge the laurel of law, also help one man stay in power. . It is remarkable, a man. These are the people that bill barr used to call the crazies, or whatever it is, these are people who have sullied to the legal profession. And the legal system in the united states. People go to a three attorneys for good advice, for an understanding of how the law works. For how the constitution works. Sure, to figure out how to gain advantage within those parameters, its pretty clear that these individuals were giving advice that was way beyond the bounds and the parameters of the constitution, and of the law. They were not acting as attorneys, they were acting as Chief Political Hacks who are basically willing to do anything to keep donald trump in power. So, it is a good sign that people like that will be held accountable. Because typically, i think a lot of deference is shown to lawyers. But these are lawyers who do not deserve that kind of deference. David, i have a two part question for you. The first one is the indictment lays out what these coconspirators were doing, but why doesnt charge them . And to, could donald trump say, look, these are lawyers, they were the ones that were telling me and giving me this advice, whether its a john eastman type of memo, to put forth fake electors. Or Rudy Giuliani saying theres the way and heres what we can do. To answer your first question, ayman, theres no justification for them not being charged. I expect we may see charges again in the future. Heres the reason why we say that. Down in florida, youve got two guys being charged along with former President Trump for moving around boxes and for deleting Security Footage of moving around boxes. In the d. C. Case, youve got a conspiracy to jack a president ial election, and seven people are in on it. If youre going to charge the guise for moving around the boxes, how do you not charge the coconspirators who tried to hijack an election . Especially when they knew what they were doing. President trump is sitting behind the wheel of the car, but the lawyers are providing the fuel to these wrongful legal theories. That answer is question number one. With regard to the Second Question, and bear with me, ayman, i forgot exactly what you asked me, the Second Question. Can you remind me . The Second Question was could donald trump use the fact that these are five lawyers as his legal defense. Say, look, i was given advice from john eastman about a possible electoral slate, or alternative slates, to put forth. I was given advice by Rudy Giuliani to put pressure on mike pence to not certify the election. And really, hide behind the fact, or use as the defense strategy, that these coconspirators are lawyers giving him bad advice. Absolutely. Hes going to try to do that, 100 . Heres what we have in our advantage, were trying to analyze this. Some of the theories have already been tested. Lets look at giuliani. Hes looking to be barred in d. C. And in new york, typically what they do is theyll say, hey, well have a hearing to determine whether or not we should disbar you. In your case, its so blatant, were going to go ahead and because the lies were so egregious. We saw this with the january 6th proceedings, in terms of the evidence that was offered. He was told multiple times that this was wrong. I dont think any jury is going to feel any differently than in new york and d. C. Barr did for giuliani. Also, some of these other lawyers are facing disbarment in other states. Eastman in california, powell in texas. They havent been successful. But they let you know how people are responding to these illegal theories, and trump is receiving them in multiple directions. And when he goes to pence, and he tells pence, hey, we can just do it, the lawyers say we can. Pence didnt just say no. He said let me have my people check it out. And his people came back and said yeah, theyre telling us we cant do it. So i dont think we should do it. And he still kept moving forward. I dont think its gonna be a good defense. Jennifer or jack smiths Team Demonstrates that his coconspirators knew they were spreading election lies. According to witness accounts, trump privately said that sydney powells Election Fraud claims were, quote, crazy. What do you make of this private, public dichotomy, and how this Special Counsels offer might use it between what trump was saying publicly and what he was saying privately . Well, we know that there are other voices in this case. Other witnesses who talked about the fact that the president absolutely knew what was true, what was honest. That he had lost the election. That many people had discussed it with him. And he knew that that was the truth. So, the fact that he then publicly came out and continued with the conspiracies, and the lies about the stolen election, i would just suggest it makes it very clear that trump, you know, the State Of Mind is a guilty one. He absolutely knows what he was doing. But i also think its really important to add to this conversation that it wasnt just trump and his close circle of attorneys that were advancing these lies, and these conspiracies. There are a whole long list of republican politicians sitting in the house, sitting in the senate, who advance them as well, and they knew better. They knew that these were lies that they were repeating to the american people. And i think that that, as much as we are focused on this arraignment, this indictment right now, we have to recognize how really dangerous and damaging it is to have elected officials who are willing to engage in this manner as well. Jennifer horn, the david henderson, Carlos Curbelo, thank you so much for joining us tonight. I greatly appreciate your insights as always. The coming up, the case for televising the trump trials, congressman steve cohen joins me after a quick break. Break who needs that much more tide . Crashing Sounds everyones gonna need more tide. Its a mess out there. Thats why theres 85 more tide in every power pod. See . Baby ah. Think hairsprays stuck in one dimension . Think again. Flex any style. With hairspray that flexes with you. New tresemme hairspray. dad we got our Subaru Forester wilderness to discover all of the places that make us feel something more. vo subaru is the National Park foundations largest corporate donor, helping expand access for all. 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Unlike in state and local courtrooms, Broadcasting Proceedings In Federal Court is not the norm. But there have been some exceptions in recent decades. Joining me now is one of the signatories of that letter, democratic congressman, steve cohen, of tennessee. Congressman, its great to see you again. Thank you for making time for us. Let me get your thoughts by just quickly on the Breaking News that we had this evening, the protective order that prosecutors requested against trump last night, after he posted what seemed to be a threat online. Today you have the u. S. District judge, Tanya Chutkan, reject trumps request for an extension. Whats your reaction, sir . Well, he said if you come after me, im gonna go after you. This is the actions of a bully, of a tyrant, and thats what he is. Judge basically cautioned him about taking illegal steps, and he doesnt know what illegal is. Because everything that emanates from him is perfect, all right, and legal. But this is dangerous to witnesses, dangerous to piece pull that testified. Dangerous to people to prosecute. Basically telling people, dont get involved, dont support this position. And if you do, i get to be president. Hell get even. He will get even, because bill barr said there will be no checks on him. We will lose our country. Lets talk about the letter you and your colleagues sent to the judicial conference in which you make the case for this trial to be televised because of the powerful circumstances we find ourselves in. Why do you believe, sir, it is important the American Public could bear witness to this trial in realtime . We have seen our nation become more divided than any time, i guess since the civil war. This its totally divided. But its divided now not on whether your favorite its whether or not to see facts and admit they are the truth or not. We have a problem just as seeing reality, and the facts and working off the same we are cell owed by cable television, if you watch msnbc and cnn, you see a certain version of the news. Which i think is the truth. And if you watch fox, or newsmax, or some of those stations, you see fiction. And thats why they had multi hundreds of millions of dollars judgments against them for lying about Dominion Voting and other things on fox, and theyre going to have others theyre going to be filed liable. We need to make sure that the people can watch this, and see it on their own, and not to have to watch it through the eyes and ears of fox and newsmax, who would take trumps position, and switch the perspectives to be what trump wants, and not the truth. The truth needs to be seen, because otherwise, if they dont accept the judgment, and im just assuming that the judge hes presumed innocent. But i think hes guilty as el capitan, as anybody can be. And if they dont see the trial, it may not accept it. Because im sure on fox, they will show this be Something Like for how concerned are you about what the reaction will be if donald trump is found guilty in this trial, and it is not televised . How concerned are you that him and his followers, or him and his allies, may incite his followers to violence, like what we saw on January The 6th . I definitely can see that. Donald trump does not want to go to jail. Then his followers believe him. Heres a man whos probably the hes pinocchio look like a tower of truth. Hes been found indicted now three times. Each impeached twice. Hes been found guilty and is liable in civil cases for rape, for lying a civil case he cheated charities. Cheating charities . You raped women at Bergdorf Goodman . And you lie about everything in the world. And these people believe him as if he is a truth stopper. Hes not. They dont see it with their own eyes, even then, i dont know if theyll accept it. But youve got to hope they will accept the verdict, and to do, that they need to see with their own eyes, i hope the chief Justice Roberts will understand. That our country is at risk of danger of a civil war. We are danger of insurrection, danger of this horrific things. Whether hes found guilty or not. The only way i think i can see to make less of this would be to televise it, so people can say for themselves. Since you mentioned chief justice john roberts, its ultimately him and the judicial conference who will make that decision. But do you believe, given the way that the Supreme Court has behaved and the way the chief justice has behaved it, in the lack of transparency when it comes to the Supreme Court, that hed be willing to grant that transparency to the American Public in this trial . I certainly hope he would. I dont think he wants the court to have a good reputation. Some of the things the court has done has lost its support for the public, with the no ethics laws, and all the benefits that have been heaped upon Clarence Thomas and justice alito, getting similar benefits. And acting like its improper even to question the ethics of the Supreme Court. They should not be a medium for ethics laws like every other Political Group is. So yeah, i hope Justice Roberts will protect the courts integrity, and the court is at a low point, i think its acceptance by the public would be abnormal for him to do this, to say the public has a right to see this at different times. If we didnt even have television, theres news reels, i guess, but he didnt have a president like trump. We didnt have a division of this country the way it is, where people, you cant see the truth, and listen to what they are told by folks that think democrats are all running Pizza Restaurants with fronts to have Human Trafficking and child trafficking going on. They believe this qanon mess. This is a dangerous time in our nation. I think Justice Roberts need to recognize, the court needs to take extraordinary action to protect the democracy and protect the foundations on which the court rests. Yeah, in his previous scholars and others who have study this have noted, Televising The Trials has not impacted either the jurors or the right of a defendant to have a fair and speedy process. So, really, there is no reason not to televise these trials anymore. Congressman, steve cohen of tennessee, its always a pleasure, sir thanks very much for your time. Youre welcome, thank you very much. Ahead, testimonies from Hunter Bidens former Business Associate Backfires on republicans, we are going to tell you why. You why thats me before dawn powerwash. Soaking, scrubbing. Thats life. Was life. Now, powerwash gives me the power of an overnight soak in minutes. Im sorry, minutes . With 3 cleaning boosters. 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As put in the washington put, james comer has repeatedly seen that james comer should be taken with a grain of salt. We should be clear, regardless of this, hunter biden clearly overstated his influence with his father, and manipulated their relationship to help himself. But, as democrats point out, thats not criminal, and it doesnt tarnish President Biden. So then the question becomes how much longer are we going to go on this Fishing Expedition . There is no evidence connecting President Biden to anything related to hunter biden. We have been told by the republicans repeatedly that this is an investigation to joe biden. There is no evidence that connects joe biden to any of this. And weve now had witness after witness come in, and they have testified to the same thing. All right, joining me now is michael singleton, political consultant and host of the shermichael show on sirius xm and former congresswoman, don edwards, now Washington Post columnist and nbc said msnbc shermichael, what was your take away from Devin Archers Testimony this week . Look, i had an opportunity to greet it. At best, ayman, i guess you could say maybe theres some unethical behavior on behalf of hunter biden, of putting his father in a very precarious predicament. But theres no surprise, i mean, i dont think hunter biden is the poster child for being a perfect child. But is there direct evidence that connects the president to some type of fraudulent activity or illegal activity . We havent seen it yet. And republicans are arguing that this is a part of the investigation, trying to see if such activity did indeed occur. But as we know, we dont see it. Congresswoman, exactly how many more times can james comer cry wolf before he loses any credibility in the eyes of the American Public. Do you think republicans are as frustrated with him Behind Closed Doors as democrats are in front of the cameras, that hes unable to deliver on what he keeps saying will be evidence . Well, your starting with the wrong premise. He really doesnt have any credibility. This hearing that came forward, and you can look through the transcript, i dont know how many times a witness in devon archer could say i have no knowledge, i dont know, i never heard of that, joe biden didnt have any connection. Dozens and dozens of times throughout the transcript. And so, i think you have a Nothing Burger of investigation. And i think for all the promise of tying joe biden to all of this, it simply has not worked. And so i dont know whether republicans are frustrated, but its not like any of their oversight is going well at all either. So, i think, you know, you look at this time since january, republicans have been in control. Theyve gotten nothing done in congress. And as well, they really havent done anything with respect to these investigations. So, ultimately shermichael, is this going to work for republicans going into 2024 . This attempt to try and juxtapose Hunter Bidens legal woes with Donald Trumps legal woes, as some type of political strategy . I certainly wouldnt put them on the same playing plane, ayman. Im not saying them on the same plane at all, republicans love to create this fake narrative worth a say, we were just about to break hunter biden. We were just about to have this. We were havent devin archer bright that big bombshell and then they indicted on trump. So i guess anybody who lives on earth one doesnt believe that, but im saying theyre going to use that narrative. Im asking, do you think it will work . I think it certainly has the ability, if they continue to persist to raise some level of doubt or question among a certain percent of the voting populace. Whether or not, payment, its effective enough to increase or change the odds potentially if its Joe Biden First donald trump, im not particularly certain of, that to be honest with you. I dont think the average person really carries. In terms of the former president s legal issues, i think that is certain to be front and center in the midst of the election next year. But this devin our thing most americans dont know where the heck ukraines. They dont care about this. It doesnt have an impact on them. So im less certain this is going to be an effective political strategy. I think there are something republicans could focus on that might tend to be more effective for them in the general election. Congresswoman, let me ask you about something more sinister here. Democratic congressman jamie raskin has pointed this out. He sent a letter to comer, reup in a claim that he withheld a key transcript from the American Public, relating to the triple Committee Hearing with irs agents who say the Department Of Justice mishandled the hunter biden case. Comer pushed this idea of fees claims, thats not true. We havent been able to this transcript. Do you expect the public will ever get to see the full transcript, if it does in fact go against what republicans want us to believe in the narrative they pushing out there . I dont think so. I think that republicans have been very crafty, particularly the committee, very crafty at holding the they think will not be in their favor is. Withholding those public view. The fact is that there is no connection with joe biden. There is no with the irs. Some sort of manipulation of the irs. Hunter biden is going through his own legal process. And that will happen. That is completely separate and apart from the president of the united states. Its not going to stop republicans. Those that want to go down this rabbit hole are going to do that. But i think for the majority of american people, shermichael is right. The stuff just doesnt factor in. So how do democrats counter it and what should they be doing right now, congresswoman . I think the thing they can do is, i mean, i think the law is on the Oversight Committee have been really, really good. Dan goldman, jamie raskin, really pushing back on the republican narrative. And theyve torn a power of these witnesses. These witnesses have come forward. And of all those fallen completely flat. The reason is because democrats are on their a game as challenging the socalled oversight. James comer is doing a horrible job leading this committee. Shermichael singleton and from a congresswoman donna edwards, thank you to both of you. Greatly appreciate your insights tonight. Thank. You coming up, victory for the Tennessee Three. We tell you about that. You about that as the breakthrough youve been waiting for. 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