The lookout for. He did it in front of everybody. But today, he was nabbed, so to speak. He was arrested and booked. No mugshot was taken at the ex president , but his fingerprints were taken. There are no cameras allowed in federal court. We have these sketches, where donald j trump, the 44th president of the united states, was the rain, 45th president of the united states, was arraigned on four Felony Counts for his attempts to steal the election. The ex president pleaded not guilty, there were no literal handcuffed. But he surrendered and was arrested, he submitted to federal custody in the federal courthouse. Special counsel jack smith sat in the front row during the arraignment. Defendant trump was sworn in. We did not hear a lot from him, but when asked by the Magistrate Judge, he stated his full name, quote, donald j trump, john. When asked his age he said 77, 77. He entered a plea of not guilty on all charges for his attempts to subvert american democracy and end the Constitutional Republic as we know it. In an extraordinary and unexpected turn, the Magistrate Judge warned the defendant, donald john trump, to not try to influence any jurors. She warned the defendant to not commit any crimes while he is out on release. And that he would be held by the federal government should he do so. He was released on the condition that he not communicate any facts of the case with witnesses unless in the presence of counsel. The judge warned the ex president would be detained if he violated the conditions of his release. Now trump faces a total of 78 Felony Counts in his three upcoming criminal trials. But none of those 78 counts are like these four. This is the big one. The biggest of all time. I want to take a step back for a moment and make note of how we got here. Because one of the craziest things about january, sixth if you take yourself back to that day in realtime, it was truly wild. When it was all over, this surreal, Upsetting Scene Playing Out In Realtime on live television, everyone just went home. Do you remember that . Like no one got arrested on the spot. Despite the fact that rioters nearly destroyed the nations capital, they smashed windows, ransacked congressional offices, dedicated inside them, including the office of the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi, which they ransacked. They overtook the floor of the senate, the temporarily blocked the certification of votes. And they brutally attacked Police Officers with flagpoles and bats and crutches and bear spray, chunks of wood. Blood was spilled. They chanted hang mike pence as they hunted him down in the halls of congress, and then after all of that, after we watched it all, no one got arrested. We saw them commit the crimes. We saw the crimes committed in realtime. The violence unfolding before our eyes. We watched as the violent rioters just went home. Police just walked them out. And their leader, the man who sent them there, the man they stormed the capitol, for the man who told them to go down to the capitol, he had this final message for them. I know your pain, i know youre hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us, it was a landslide election, and everyone knows it. We love you, you are very special. Youve seen what happens, you see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home. I love, you did everything right, totally justified. Go home. Really . No one, no handcuffs . No one is getting arrested after that, an attempted coup with violence and bloodshed . Everyone just goes, oh, goodnight . Americas not the only country on earth, sometimes you forget that here, and when this happens in other countries, it plays out differently. Lets take a comparison. Brazil. Earlier this year, brazils president , Jared Bolsonaro and his followers tried to pull out of power following the election defeat. Brazil had their own january 6th, and their own attempted coup, it happened on january 8th of this year with bolsonaro supporters storming the capitol in brasilia, claiming there was fraud and the election was stolen. In fact, they are casino most explicitly modeled on ours. Like a weird kind of american export. And there was one enormous difference. At the end of that coup, when it failed, all of those rioters got marched out by Security Forces in zip ties, on the very same day hundreds arrested on the spot. Get on the bus, boys. Right there. Typically, when you see Coup Attempts happening in other countries and they dont work, it looks more like that. Its not a go home and chill kind of situation. Here in the, u. S. A over the last two and a half, heres the Department Of Justice, to their credit, launched the largest investigation in its history to try to find the january 6th rioters as they work from the bottom up. Over 1000 people charged, nearly 600 pleaded guilty. Nearly 100 found guilty at trial. The Investigation Continues to this day. Just yesterday, this guy on your screen, a member of the violent January 6th Mob was finally arrested. Why does he look like . That well, he is a st. Louis cardinals superfan known as rally runner. Yesterday, raleigh runner finally got halted. Today, attempts ahead of the attempted coup, and the guy the mob stormed the capitol, for the guy who told them he loved them, well, he finally got he his day in court. He pleaded not guilty to these sprawling conspiracy to hold on to power, that prosecutors lay out an incredible detail. The arraignment today was described by people inside the room as intense. Packed to capacity, several other federal judges, in fact, and the chief judge of the d. C. Federal court seated in the back row, taking it all in. The parties decided on the next hearing date. And the Magistrate Judge gave three options after conferring with the trial judge, judge chutkan, jack smiths team, yes, yes, oh yes, they picked the earliest date. Guess what trumps team did . And they requested the latest. A. They got. It august 28th at 10 am, the judge will set a trial date then. Get ready. Garrett haake is a senior capitol hill correspondent for nbc news, one of the very few reporters actually allowed inside that courtroom during trumps arraignment and he joins me now. Garrett, my impression, we were doing live coverage, rachel was doing an incredible job of reading your live dispatches on air in a way that made me feel like i was in there, you did fantastic work covering it for us. I got the sense there was a lot more activity, more stuff happens in that Arraignment Trial that i was anticipating. It was way less pro forma, way more news worthy than i thought. What did you think . Well, chris, let me give a shout out to our whole team here covering this because it was a cast of hundreds, including great producers, who were able to bring that coverage to people throughout the course of the day. They deserve a lot of the credit. You are absolutely right. Ive been in the courtroom for all three of Donald Trumps arraignments. This was by far the most active in a lot of ways, the most interesting. To me the composition of the courtroom as you are describing it, having these other judges in, theyre a lot of reporters, including myself who were there on january 6th, having so many fbi agents and clerks and other folks who work for the Special Counsel in the room. Kind of felt like a home game for the justice system. You see sort of jack smith staring down donald trump throughout the hearing, making a point afterwards to shake hands and kind of work the room. I think a lot of people were emotionally invested in the outcome of this hearing in the room and the courthouse today. There were several of the officers injured on january 6th who are watching from overflow rooms. You could kind of feel that throughout the course of the proceedings today. And then i think probably the most interesting break from the sort of standard procedure of all this was this warning to donald trump that he not commit any crimes. Okay, that is pretty standard, released fair. But also not try to contact or intimidate or bribe or in other ways interfere with witnesses. A look at think about was all the times ive seen him post on truth social or twitter before that, going after judges and witnesses and others whom he has crossed paths with over the years. It was kind of this weirdly mundane Court Hearing in a lot of ways, but it felt so much bigger and more connected to everything weve been dealing with politically over the last two and a half years. That exchange over the timing, and the fact the Magistrate Judge has already talked to chutkan, that the hearing, the Briefing Schedule on that is already laid out. That was really quite a take, we will get more of that as the night continues. Garrett haake, thank you, fantastic work today, really appreciate it. Jen psaki is the former White House Press secretary for president biden, the host of inside with jen psaki on msnbc nbc news president ial historian and both of them join me now. Jen, i havent gotten a chance to talk to you today as you were watching it, im curious your reaction to tonight. You know, the bureau here is just a few blocks. I could walk to where the courthouse, is to where garrett is. It is raining, but i can still walk there. I think there was this expectation that it would be a circus, or i had that expectation. It really wasnt outside the courthouse a circus, and that speaks to how much things have changed in some ways over the last couple of years, for the good in part, i think, because of the efforts by the Department Of Justice to go after the oath keepers and disincentivizes this type of gathering. But the other thing that struck me, chris, as much as we didnt see in the courtroom and as you noted in your opening there was a lot of development that came out of it that i thought was surprising. Trump was treated like a teenager in some ways, not a 77 year old former president. But also that just listening, he seems smaller in some ways to me. He didnt do a big campaign event. He did have some remarks. He didnt go to a public event. He didnt give a long speech. And that was striking to me as well. But also, we will learn more in a couple of weeks when the judge, who clearly means business, moves forward on getting as a trial date. That point on i want to add something to that because talking with us some of our colleagues here at the special coverage, it is notable that he is alone. There is no posse and no retinol and no family. I would hope that if i were to go through the ordeal that this man is currently facing in my darkest, hours having to go my wife, my kids, my loved ones, my family, i would have a crew, people that stand with. Meet his wife is not, there cant see any of his, gets his daughter, no one. The guy is alone. He is so alone, the warriors willing to take hope his checks clear. That is really striking, michael, on a day that is a huge day. No matter how much he wants to say it isnt and yadayada, i dont think there is any real analog in American History for what happened today. Nothing remotely like it, chris. Chris, you end jen and i, we all have children. To have you guys, yours are younger than mine are, but i guarantee you that they will learn about what happened this day. Not only because it is the first time an ex president was indicted for offenses he committed in office, but look at the consequences. Just as you were saying at the beginning, chris, if this had succeeded, lets say some of those attackers on the capitol had been about five or ten minutes faster and gotten to nancy pelosi or mike pence or others, some of them had a murder and kidnapping in their heart. Or lets say this trial got further delayed and didnt take place before the 2024 election and donald trump begins becomes president next year and he wants to finish the job he did not finish on the 6th Of January with some kind of president ial dictatorship. Aside from everything else, we would lose our democracy, as we almost did on the 6th of december, rule of law, peaceful transfer of power, the way that we choose to have people lead us. At the same time, look at the emptiness that would be there in our system. A president of the united states, donald trump, had committed perhaps the largest offense of any president had come near to committing in all of our history, never had to pay for it, came back to office. Yeah, yeah. It is well sudden, michael. Jen, to your point about this sort of small this. And the enormity of the stakes, right, and how close we came to something truly horrendous in terms of the level of bloodshed and violence, in terms of the real kind of end of the constitutional order, which was being contemplated from the indictment by the coconspirators, as alleged. The people who were trying to stop them. If you do this, there will be violence in the streets. If you do this, we go off the table, right . Donald trumps smallest and his lack of power stands in stark contrast to that today. But its only because he no longer has the power of the presidency. That is the whole ball game, which was, i think, the clear subtext if not the explicit text, jen, today, of this arraignment. Yes. You did this while you were president and we are going to indict you, you are going to be arraigned. These are actions you did while sitting in the white house, sitting in the oval office. And that is vital, that is so important for history. The other pieces you were just talking there, chris, sitting there in washington, ive lived here on and off for 20 years, its not just that the courthouse is close to here. Everything is close to here. We can see the capital behind the bureau. You can see the capitol from the courthouse. Its all very small. The events that happened on january 6th, they impacted so many people in washington who dont even work in the capital. It all happened, the insurrectionists, people marching towards the capitol, they marched near that courthouse. And there are so many aspects of this that kind of bring you full circle, might not be the right description, but that is where it happened, that is where we all watched in horror as people marched violently toward the capitol, as people like donald trump and others looked at the other way while violence was happening and he even sparked it. And today, he wasnt a courthouse, as you noted, without family members, with a Press Secretary, a staffer, no offense to press secretaries, but not the same as your family members. [laughter] that is a stark difference, without the power and the besiege of the presidency. It is quite a jarring split screen between today and two and a half years ago. That is good advice for folks in washington and politics. Your Press Secretary is no substitute for a family member. Keep that in mind. You can be close with them, yes. Dont mix them up. Michael, there is this cliche, trial of the century, sort of trump, because there have been, from time to time, not just here in the u. S. , across the world, trials that captivated the public imagination, the kidnapping of lindberg baby comes to mind as one of those famous ones that caught the nations attention. Oj simpsons is another one in my lifetime. Ive got to imagine that should we get a trial, and it looks like we are headed towards one, this would again be in a category of its own, historically, for a trial of the century. A category of its own, brilliantly side. And then a test of whether it is a trial of any century, and i would say the three centuries or at least over two centuries of American History this would be, look at the consequences. Many of us think the assassination of john kennedy made big changes in this country, beginning with the fact that baby kennedy wouldnt have escalated the vietnam war. That wouldve been a pretty big change. In Donald Trumps case, had he succeeded on the 6th Of January, if he becomes president again, if he tries to institute that kind of president ial dictatorship hes talking about, instituting president ial Emergency Powers and using martial law and the insurrection act, maybe he wanted to do according to this indictment, all our lives would be different. We would be living in a brutal, autocratic state. It almost happened, cannot happen again. Jen psaki and Michael Beschloss, thank you both so much for joining us on this historic day. Coming up in a little more than three, weeks we will learn the trial date for Donald Trumps latest case. So when should we expect one of the most if not the most important trials in American History to begin, next. Mmercial, i think im late on my payment. Its okay, the general gives you a break. Yeah, we let you pick your own due date. Good to know, because this next scene might take a while. For a great low rate, go with the general. Sleepovers just arent what they used to be. Next scene might take a while. A house full of screens . Basically no hiccups . You guys have no idea how good youve got it. How old are you . Like, 80 . Back in my day, it was scary stories and flashlights. We dont get scared. Oh, really . Mom can see your search history. Thats what i thought. Introducing the next generation 10g network. Only from xfinity. Donald j trump has been indicted and rain, as you, know three times this year. It may not be done quite yet. He is now facing 78 Felony Counts, three different jurisdictions for indictments, two federal, one in state with maximum sentences ranging between four and 20 years for each count. So what would be the options for defendants facing this many charges, say if he were not the former president and the republican foreigner for 2024 . The defendant who is not trump would probably seek some kind of deal to plead guilty, as about 90 due in federal criminal cases did just last year. 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