a defiant former president, donald, trump off the campaign trail in pennsylvania. just a few hours, last night in iowa, at this, as he tells one interview, or even prison would not stop his campaign. >> if -- if going forward right -- you get these indictments there ends up, you've got a jury in d.c., you get convicted and sentenced. does that stop your campaign for president? if you are sentenced? >> not at all. there is nothing in the constitution to say that it could and not at all. >> the former presidents remarks coming as he faces mounting legal troubles from special counsel, jack smith, new charges in the classified documents case and a looming potential indictment for election interference. we will have all the latest developments in just a moment. also this, our controversial new comments from supreme court justice, samuel alito, who says there's nothing congress can do to regulate ethics on the high court in the wake of high-profile scandals involving most prominently, himself. new information and gripping testimony during a hearing for michigan school shooter. plus, it's, hot we're keeping a close eye on the extreme heat. more than 100 million americans under heat alerts today. there may be some relief in sight for parts of the country. that is, all coming up. we are going to start with the former president hitting the campaign trail. he is not ignoring those new charges in the classified documents case. let's get right to, it with nbc, 's marissa borough, who is in erie, pennsylvania for us. which is where president trump, former, president will hold rally it just a few hours. marissa, good to see you. can you just walk us through this? what do we expect trump to say tonight as he campaigns with these new charges? >> we'll, if last night is any indication, the iowa republicans -- you can expect the former president, remember, this is just one day after those new charges dropped. what we saw last, night the former president was both defiant and deflected. listen for yourself. >> they want to weaponize the irs, just like they weaponize the justice department and the fbi. by the, way if i weren't running, i would have nobody coming after me. or if i was losing by a lot, i would have nobody coming after me. they would not be coming after me. >> now, what you did not hear after that was the raucous applause. that was maintained throughout his entire appearance last. night i think the iowa republican dinner is the perfect example of this landscape that gop rivals have as they are navigating the 2024 election. what we saw works well with his rivals, including his top contenders, really staying away from taking him head on. even though this was just a day after those fresh new charges. there is only one person, texas former congressman, will hurd, he said several things that were very outright against the former president. he said that former president trump's only running to escape present. and he said a vote for trump, voting for trump, is ensuring that biden or the democrats will win 2024. so what was interesting is, if you listen to, that you see that heard was met with boos, repeatedly as he named those claims and assertions. again, you see, historically, that is something that former president trump's rivals have really been hesitant to do. because they know that it is divisive. this is the former president, he's lead contender among the republicans who are running. it is definitely traffic-y for them. we did just see by the way, within the, hour the former president responded to herds claims on truth social. repeating it exactly what you just heard, that soundbite from last, night it's the exact same thing. the only reason these charges are coming about is because he is running. and because he's a lead character. obviously the rally is coming up soon in just a few. hours at six, o'clock there are people lining up since early this morning, through the rain, so neither charges nor weather is keeping people from coming out, showing up. we have a preview of what we can expect tonight. >> a preview, to say the, least marisa, thank you so much. joining me now is nbc senior national politics reporter, jonathan, allen informal federal prosecutor at msnbc legal analyst, carole lamb. jonathan, i will start with you. let's talk about the new defended in this latest indictment. carl olivier era, he is scheduled to -- what more do we know about these figures name ten unnamed in the new charges here? >> he's a point of personal privilege to congratulate you on nominated for an emmy as outstanding emerging journalist. pretty amazing news, all of us who work with you know that it's well deserved. the nomination, and you and our other colleagues who was also nominated. good luck. >> thank you so, much. john >> but to catch up with these, folks carlos de oliveira, the government says he was part of a conspiracy with donald trump. both of them were indicted in miami. it's part of a wedge scheme. de oliveira -- the government says he was the person who deliver the message to someone in i.t. that trump wanted security camera footage deleted from servers. so that is part of what the government is saying is an effort to obstruct justice and find out what was going on with those classified documents. so that's the importance of de oliveira, another person named as part of this village conspiracy. >> thanks for the analysis, john, thanks for your time. carol, let's stick with you. now they olivia is alleged to have asked a mar-a-lago employee about deleting a server with security footage. on it, -- the leading excuse, me the footage, for quote, the boss, it remains unclear what happened with the server mentioned in the indictment. does it even matter if it was deleted or not? and does it matter that they -- they olivia at never actually named trump specifically? >> i think it doesn't matter as much that trump wasn't named pacific, lee and was referred to only as the boss. it seems pretty obvious who the boss was, at mar-a-lago. and i think we're gonna have testimony from mr. taveras, the i.t. director, about who the boss was. i think more likely the issue for jack smith's team, and this is what trial attorneys have to worry about, is there were two parties to this conversation. it seems unlikely that this conversation was recorded. and it appears the jack smith's team tried very hard to get mr. dale liver us to cooperate as well. because they had him testify about the statement that the boss wants these tapes deleted, they would have loved to have had the other party to that conversation also confirming that. but he apparently refused to cooperate and that's why he ended up indicted. and what that means, is that all of this evidence rests now on mr. tavares. he has to be available to testify at trial. although i'm sure jack smith's team locked his testimony in the grand jury under oath, that is not admissible in trial, because the defense has the possibility to cross examine the witness. and that wasn't a possibility. so that's why jacks mitt's team wants to get this case to trial as soon as possible. >> you make an interesting. point that conversation may not have been reported, but one that was was from 2021. where we heard former president trump discussing iran classified documents. let's take a listen. >> well with milley, a, let me show you an example, he said that i wanted to attack iran. isn't it amazing? i have a big pile of papers. this thing just came up. isn't that amazing? this totally wins my case, you know. except it is, like, highly confidential. all sorts of stuff. pages long. look. wait a minute, let's see here. see, as president, i could have declassified. now i can't, you know. but this is classified. >> trump said in an interview with fox's, brett, bear that he did not have those papers. the updated indictment now provides those specific dates in which they say trump was in fact in possession of them from january 20th, 2021, the day he left office, through january 17th, 2022, which notably is the date trump turned over 15 boxes of presidential material to the national archives. so what does it mean? now that prosecutors actually have this document. >> this is what we call a bad fact for the defense. after the client has gone out and said things about that tape, and about what was going on in the room that day, now there is evidence that it says something to the contrary. so we know a couple of things now from this document that has now been charged in the indictment. we know that from this tape, the president actually was waiting around and actually classified a document. and he himself characterized it in this tape as being still, a classified document. even though it had been removed from the white house. and he was no longer the president. that is one damaging fact for the defense. the other thing that it tells us is that it gives us some idea why donald trump wanted to retain these classified documents. he is willing to use them to contradict anybody he feels is not loyal to him anymore. that is not a legitimate use of classified documents. he knows, that the defense the knows that, and this is just really a disaster for the defense. >> a lot of eyes on this, one carol lamb, thank you so much for your time. well, more than 100 million people are under heat alerts right now. phoenix hitting 110 degrees, for its 30th straight day. we're back in 60 seconds with where we may soon see relief. where we may soon see relief (mom) the moment i loved our subaru outback most... was the moment they walked away from it. 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>> no, it's impossible. it's too much. i can take maybe two hours. and that's the maximum i will come out. a listen to a little, music which helps you pass the time. but about two hours is my limit. yes. but then i go to the sea, you take your precautions. there's danger in everything you do. >> the, play i spoke to local authorities, as we covered the heat, something that people brought up is that tourists come out, hang out at the beach all day, long and not realize how dangerous that can be. something like taking a break for 30 minutes, going inside a restaurant, in the air conditioning, drinking water, that could be the difference between getting sick and heat exhaustion, or someone that safely comes and enjoy the beach. again, depending on where people are at, there are different resources. this is miami, they have a lot of air conditioning. most of the units have air conditioning so people can escape he and go inside of their homes. in other cities, there isn't enough air conditioning, and there are more cooling centers. depending on where you live, people do have to check what the resources are out there. taking breaks from the sun and the shade and drinking the water necessary, that's the most important thing. and sometimes people do forget to keep it in mind. we >> really important, points especially during the summer vacation season, guad, thank you so much. let's bring in nbc news meteorologist, michelle grossman, michelle, always good to see you. i hope you're bringing good news, any break insight? >> highs in play, always good to see. we do have a little bit of relief. i -- heat is the number one related killer of all weather related events. flooding, no, hurricanes? no. it's. heat 170 million people still under heat alerts. it's from the southwest, south states the, plains, midwest into the east. we do have some relief, already peeling -- it's all due to a cold front. the price we're going to pay some storms. we already saw some storms yesterday in the midwest. great lakes and northeast, we will see the norms in the next few hours. look at those temperatures behind this cold. front we're looking at the low, 80s upper 70s, 77 in buffalo. beautiful triangles -- there showing us the recklessly below average in those spots. we haven't said that in quite some time. ahead of this, front we're still sizzling. we're still sweltering and we're gonna keep the temperatures high in the south. as we go throughout the rest of the week. today, in new york city, 93 degrees. you factor in humidity, it's really important point because if that's what it feels. like we feel the heat on our bodies. it feels like 100 degrees in new york city. you need to be careful. there as we go throughout, sunday notice that cooler air invades into portions of the northeast. that's a good. think 86 degrees in philadelphia. 79 on sunday in boston, 80s in pittsburgh, 70s and milwaukee, also detroit. ahead of this front, it's gonna feel like 100. degrees we're gonna keep it comfortable in the northeast as we go through tuesday wednesday. we will take a break -- we've been talking about this heat wave for weeks and weeks. but we do have a heat wave also in the ocean. so it's called a marine heat wave. we are looking at temperatures so above normal this time of. your gulf of mexico is 86 degrees. we go from the sun on land into a jacuzzi-like environment in the ocean. no relief. look at this, bay 101.1 degrees. that is mind-blowing. 76 off the north atlantic coast. mediterranean sea, 80. three tropical atlantic, 83. why is this important? , well if it's linked to climate change. we're seeing -- heat waves. what does it? , meanwhile it fuels the storms, we'll see more powerful. storms it will be an important point as we get closer to the hurricane season. it's a, quite well and it, here because the warmer ocean slows down our ocean. and that is why we're seeing this heat wave for so long. we're seeing some -- it's like a conveyor belt at the grocery store. back to. you >> not just big, numbers but big implications. michelle grossman, thank you so much. well, still, ahead we are live in niger -- president, following a cue. what the u.s. is saying and doing about. it just assemble alito says congress is no right to make rules related to supreme court ethics issues. -- two former members of the. house what we are learning about senator, mitch mcconnell, 's apparent freeze up at the podium this week. his hat has some colleagues on the hill concerned. so, you've got the power of xfinity at home. now take it outside with xfinity mobile. like speed? 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or will there be something different here? when >> you know, i fully expect that any potential charges to come either federally on the january 6th investigation, or in georgia, in that investigation into the efforts to overturn the 2020 election, that they would just illicit the same kind of response from former president, trump. this is a very familiar playbook that he has had over the years. he has faced criminal liability, including in more recent indictments where he just uses its charge against, him every single, count as more evidence in the mind of his supporters that he is being unfairly persecuted. that is the narrative that trump and his allies are trying to concoct, before the american people, and it does seem to be working, at least in some segment of the republican electorate, as he remains the leading candidate for the republican presidential nomination. >> phil, we do know prosecutors from special counsel, jack smith's office, to question white house aides about trump's state of mind during the 2020 election. i know in your, book i alone can fix, it details the last era of trump's term, including january 6th. so why and how do you think trump's state of mind is significant in this case? >> it is very significant, and for a number of reasons. first of, all it helps establish the full narrative the prosecutors would have to put together as they assess what charges to bring in an indictment. but i can also speak to whether trump knew whether the election was accurate or not. there is conflicting reporting about. this but the sense that he knew the truth, which was that joe biden won the, election and he was still trying to perpetuate this falsehood before his own supporters, and the american people, which would speak to the former presidents intent. that is something that prosecutors have been trying to figure out in all the interviews they've been doing with so many people in and around the trump circle. >> it's important to, say we've heard from the former president directly. i know he posted on truth social, quote, we will have fun on the stand, calling at the trial of the century. careful wording there, using we, that may have been intentional, do you think the former president's lawyers would actually let him testify? and do you think he wants to take the stand? or was that short of a blunder? >> i think he is sort of an ultimate showman, i think he was trying to effectively gin up interest in a potential trial. i don't necessarily take him at his word that he has decided he would want to take the stand and testify, if in fact, these charges come through as it appears it's possible at this hour. that being, said it's very much in keeping with his patterns over the years, to try to drum up interest in any sort of news event that involves himself, and the audience, the voters, the american people, in suspense about whether he would actually take the stand. >> phil rucker, thank you for your analysis. >> thank you. >> these days, trump's fellow republican primary candidates are having to confront an unusual question. what they would do if their parties front brother is convicted on federal charges. republican governor, ron desantis, now suggests in an interview that he would pardon trump. saying it would not be good for the country to send him to prison. but while the same tested not mention the former president of the gop dinner in iowa, one of his other 2024 opponents definitely did. >> donald trump is not running for president to make america great again, donald trump is not running for president to represent the people that voted for him in 2016 and 2020, donald trump is running to stay out of prison. and if we elect -- >> so. >> i know, i know, i know. >> that was former texas representative, will hurd, what you heard there were boos. joining me now for -- a former florida republican congressman. no longer affiliated with the party. david, let's start with you. after those, remarks as i, said he was booed. over the chairs, he said nominating trump would mean for more years of biden in the white house. it sounds like it's not a message that republican constituents want here right. now >> you heard the ultimate skunk at the party last night. he might be on the right side of history, but he is out of step with today's republican party. the republican party will have to own this for a generation to come. they are embracing someone who is now facing multiple indictments. one possibly for trying to topple our own democracy. so i think the important thing is that who else is in the field? we know the qualitative assessments to be made of donald trump. we know where will hurd stands on. that went desantis and others suggest that they, indeed, would pardon the former, president it raises the question, is there actually much light of day between donald trump, the actor himself, on january 6th, and all the other candidates who may, indeed, give him a pass for his activities? and the republican party is in an odd place, historically. but they remain competitive. the american people will be the ultimate deciders come next november. >> let's talk about the other candidates, don, i want to bring you in. isa hutchinson was the only other candidate even mention trump. yet, notably, the former president started his speech by attacking one of his rivals. desantis, less than three minutes into the remarks. are these candidates losing any real challenge if they refuse to run against trump? they won't even name him? >> well, look, i think there is a danger that republican candidates face. there is a complete disconnect between their base and critique of donald trump. so what these candidates are wrestling with, how do i maintain the base, and at the same time, criticize the front runner. they haven't been able to figure that. out i don't think they can. because i think that base is very solidly behind donald trump. and is not interested, as you can see, from the remarks towards will hurd, they are not interested in hearing any criticism of the former president. so without, that the candidates who are offering a critique, will, her isa hutchinson, chris christie, they are sitting down at the bottom of the barrel, in the polls. and it is not likely but that is going to have any impact. any measurable impact on the republican base. they are a trump base. >> let's talk about someone who is not behind, desantis. in a sense that his campaign reboot started off by angering a lot of people over the new education standards. when it comes to the state and slavery. tim scott, and representative, brian donalds, who are, black criticize. that they were than accused of merely echoing kamala harris. where -- what are you hearing from black members of the republican party? is this a movement of reckoning for them? >> well, look, let's face it. a majority of american people understand one thing. slavery that, freedom good. so the fact that ron desantis seems to be confused about this, not only in terms of a general election, putting him completely out of step with the majority of americans, but i also think that even within the republican party, there is a significant number who are not going to follow along with this line of thinking. ron desantis, he said -- he seems to be giving himself this reboot, it doesn't seem to be reporting his campaign. with every one of these remarks, there is another deep slide that puts him in the worst position, should he get a nomination of winning in a general election. >> david, let's bring you back, you are a former member of the republican party, what was your take on this, especially of the defense, desantis has been making? >> look, i think ron desantis is a dangerous culture warrior. willing to step on the backs of black and brown america on the way to the white house. fortunately, in a general, election voter pools has the limits. is perhaps a republican pool, as we're seeing around desantis struggle. the most telling thing here, look -- politicians often need to do more listening and let's talking. rhonda scent is has been very reflexive, defending these curriculum changes. even when he's hearing from black members of his own party saying, governor desantis, you're out of step. i think ron desantis and other politicians, particularly white politicians, when it comes to race, need to talk less and listened more. rhonda sentence is failing that test. >> well i have you, both i want to talk about the supreme court, samuel alito told the wall street journal that congress does not have any authority to regulate the high court. as a former member of congress,, donna do you believe that is correct? >> well, i don't agree. i think that congress has the authority to set the terms, for example, of lower court judges,d govern the court. i think set up ethical standards. and you know, this is where alito is completely out of touch. he is on the wrong side of history. when it comes to the ethical questions that have been raised about the supreme court, i look forward to the day that the legislation moves from the united states senate over to the house of representatives that would, in fact, put some at the cull obligations and transparency on the supreme court. what they are doing now, and what we have seen revealed, is an embarrassment to the united states and an absolute embarrassment. >> david, what is your take on alito's comments? >> it is an un-workable and untenable condition. the constitution gives certain supremacy to the supreme court, and allows congress jurisdiction over the lower. courts but it does not put the supreme court out of reach for the congress. one perfect example is right, now the supreme court is asking congress for 100 and $50 million for salaries and expenses in operations this year. congress can tie any type of restrictions they might want to. that there is intentional tension of the founders between branches, but the supreme court is not out of reach of regulation from the congress. justice alito is wrong. >> time will tell where things land on. that thank you both so much. president biden has publicly acknowledged its seventh grandchild for the very first, time following a tense paternity test. the president, son hunter biden, said the push unity case, with the mother of his, daughter after hunter biden initially claimed he was not the father. in a, statement the president, said our son hunter, and navy's mother, lyndon, are working together to foster a relationship that is in the best interest of their daughter preserving her privacy as much as possible, going forward. this is not a political issue, it's a family matter. jill and i only want what's best for all our children, grandchildren, including navy. >> we have breaking, news new video posted by lebron james of his son, brawny, showing him playing piano and recovering. following his cardiac arrest during practice this. week still, ahead what we're learning about his condition and how the incident highlights heart health dangers faced by other young athletes, particularly young black men. plus, -- >> i could see that the bullet exited through his eye. >> agony on display, as a judge hears testimony deciding whether the teen who killed four students at michigan high school should get life in prison, without parole. prison, without parole. leep. so now, he wakes up feeling like himself. the reigning family room middle-weight champion. better days start with zzzquil nights. what do we always say, son? 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