deal to me. hannity responds, feeling is mutual. the january 6th committee has had these texts for months. committee member congressman jamie raskin saying even with all the leaks, it's a very small fraction of the information we have that has become public. most of the evidence has not been divulged. there's still witnesses the committee wants to hear from, including trump ally steve bannon, who is currently indicted for contempt of congress. the feds pushing back on bannon's claim for stonewalling the committee, stating he was following government direction. prosecutors saying it's not valid because trump was not a government official at the time. the committee is probing how seriously trump considered using his emergency powers to overturn the election. gop congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, again denying that she was advocating the use of martial law. >> did you send a text asking for the president to declare martial law? did you do that? >> you know, i don't recall those being my text messages. >> several are saying the only way to save our republic is for trump to call for martial law. >> keep going with the text message. i don't know on those things. >> excuse me. i don't know on those things. is that what that says? it says i don't know on those things. wait a minute, stop. this text message that's supposedly mine, i don't know if it is -- >> joining me now, emily, legal writer for "the new york times" magazine and former prosecutor, jill wine-banks. emily, what do you think meld meadows meant when he told hannity, we make a powerful team. >> i think it's clear what we're seeing here is hannity is not behaving in a journalist in any way that we use this term. it's also not a surprise that he was on stage with trump during the campaign. he really is an advocate and a member of the administration and he's using his pulpit on television to further the goals of the administration or at least he was when trump was in office. >> jill, i agree that it's not particularly surprising that sean hannity would take this role. what, then, do you think the january 6th committee is gleaning from these communications, understanding this is a fraction of what they have? >> it's i can't wait to see the rest of it because this is pretty terrible. i agree exactly with emily. this is very bad. journalistic ethics should have prevented any of this kind of communication. this wasn't hard pressed fact questions that you, alicia, might ask. it was advice to the administration on how they should behave, what strategies they should use, concern about whether the outcome was going to be what hannity and meadows both wanted, and how they could get to that proper result. this is something that means that no one should rely on fox news for any information because they are not a source of question and answers. they're a source of strategy for the republican party, particularly for trump. and the january 6 committee can make a lot out of this and all the other information. i propose that there will be a blockbuster of a series of hearings that could make a difference to anyone who's willing to listen and give a fair shot to what they're going to hear. >> and i do want to loop back to the question of those potentially blockbuster hearings. before i do, jill, january 6 chairman bennie thompson said he's going to be asking gop lawmakers to testify. take a listen. >> we will ask more than three people. >> this week? >> who are members. yes. >> all republicans? >> at this point. >> in the house? >> yes. >> any senators? >> yes. >> jill, your thoughts on how significant that is? >> it's very significant. and i don't expect any of the people whose names i've seen listed as being willing to cooperate, so that means they have to be willing to consider issuing subpoenas. and there's no special protection for members of congress. there's no reason why as american citizens they don't have the same obligation to provide necessary information in connection with a planned coup on our government, and they should be able to be subpoenaed if they don't respond to a request in a letter. and the letter pretty much will lay out why they have significant evidence so that a judge can evaluate the legitimacy of a subpoena. >> emily, i want to switch gears here a little, understanding that this is all about accountability. you have new reporting today from "the new york times." the manhattan d.a. unlikely to indict trump. here's why, witnesses have not heard from the district attorney's office in months. a key prosecutor has stopped focusing on a potential case against mr. trump. prosecutors have abandoned the war room they used to prepare for their grand jury presentation. your take, emily? >> you know, when alvin bragg, the new district attorney in manhattan came into office, it seemed as if the d.a.'s office was close to a grand jury indictment. the outgoing d.a. thought he thought that was probably warranted. bragg came in, took a look at the evidence and said i don't think it's good enough. i think it's a higher bar to indict a former president and i'm not comfortable. a couple of the lead prosecutors, very experienced people, left the office, they resigned because they thought that was the wrong call. so i think what we're seeing is the kind of end of that process. at the time bragg said this isn't over, but it seemed clear unless they came up with some new smoking gun that this investigation was going to peter out. and so that's what you're seeing here. bragg just got into office so he is far away from having to campaign for re-election, but given how democratic manhattan is, it's going to be interesting to see how this follows him. >> jill, your thoughts on this looking like it's over? >> again, i agree with emily, but i also think that it's clear that it's over. they have returned all the documents that michael cohen gave them. the prosecutors who were in charge of it have left. the grand jury is about to expire and there hasn't been a request for renew it. it seems pretty clear that he's not going to act. and based on what we already know, it seems to me that there is enough evidence to get a conviction and to sustain it on appeal. yes, there's a risk in any case against anybody, but particularly against donald trump who may have a supporter on the jury who will never vote to convict, you could end up with a hung jury because of that. but remember, master had a trumper on his jury who said i'm a total loyal trumper, but i was sworn to do my duty as a juror and i paid attention to the evidence and he was guilty on all counts, so i had to vote to convict him on all counts. it's a risk that i would certainly take if i were in alvin bragg's position. i would definitely go ahead with it. the american people deserve it. the people in new york who voted for him deserve it. i'm sorry to say that it does look like one more escape by donald trump. there are other things pending where he's not doing so well, but this one seems to be over. >> jill, we often talk about donald trump's mary poppins' bag of legal problems. a judge said trump should have explained the methods he uses to store his records and efforts to locate the subpoenaed files. your reaction. >> absolutely. you cannot say i don't personally possess them when you're in charge of a big company. of course it's in the possession of someone within the company, but you are in charge. and so you can't evade your personal responsibility by saying, oh, it's not in my personal possession. of course it's not in his desk, he doesn't have his hands on it, but he can get it. and i think that the fine is something that will continue until he produces the documents. the fine can be doubled or tripled by the judge. he can be jailed for contempt of the court order, because he is violating a court order now. and so i think there are some consequences that will lead to some accountability, but it's not the same of find him guilty of the actual underlying crime. >> emily, in this ongoing conversation about accountability, you look at a lot of the polling out there and there is this clear gap in knowledge for a lot of voters about what exactly happened on january 6th. so i want to come back to this question of the public hearings set to start in june. your sense of what we can expect? >> i think the democrats know that they have to really grab hold of the attention of the country. this is their chance. there have been a lot of leaks. the news has come out in a drip, drip fashion. it's hard to follow. i get confused by it too. what did we already know? what is actually a big deal? so this is their chance to put it altogether into a grand narrative and to lay it all out so that this fraction that we have adds up to more so that we can see it all and then people can make their judgment. and i think they know that this is pretty much it. you know, they have to make their case in a really strong way if they're going to break through to people who have been skeptical or disinterested all along. >> jill, i think about emily's excellent analysis and then layer onto that what we heard from congressman raskin about the fact that we know a fraction of what they have. at the end of the day, a big part of the task before them is going to come down to editing the information that they have, deciding what is most important, what is most critical, how to put that forward. if you are on this committee, how do you do that? >> i think they have all the talent that they need to get that done. they also have something that we didn't have back in the days of watergate, which is they can use video in a way that will be compelling. they can use actual audio sound bites. they can use the real tapes of things that have been happening. and i think it will be compelling. the real issue is how will fox cover it. and fox isn't going to cover it. so all the people who already accept the fake lies about what happened and who don't accept that there was a real coup attempt are going to continue to believe that. what has to happen is that some independents, some more moderate republicans, young people who have sort of tuned out because they haven't seen accountability, need to watch this so that they will see how close we came to losing democracy. that could make a big difference. the other thing they have to do, aside from convincing people so that before the primaries are over, they have some real reason to get out and vote and support democratic candidates who will not act in this way, is they have to make the case for why they need to change the laws, because that is their prime focus is changing the laws, filling the gaps. the electoral college act clearly has some gaps that came close to allowing them to succeed. and before we get to the next presidential election, that has to be corrected so that we don't have the risk of having a coup happen because they now have practiced. so i think there's a lot that can be accomplished. i think they will do a great job. i can't wait to watch it. i know the impact it had back in the watergate days of changing -- nixon said i am not a crook. then they watched the hearings and said, oh, yes, he is. he is a crook. he is terrible. it really changed public opinion. but that was because there were three networks and they all had the same facts. now we have people in silos. and unless you watch the actual hearings and judge for yourself, you may come away saying the election was stolen from trump because that's what some people believe and trump says it often and loudly and we need to counter that. >> emily bazelon, jill wine-banks, thank you both for getting us started. coming up, ron desantis trying to make cartoons great again. a fact check on his new disney attacks. plus why one gop lawmaker is saying why women who get pregnant after rape have a, quote, opportunity. elon musk is specifically attacking the democratic party while trying to play twitter. and we'll play some of the best moments from past correspondents dinners as it returns this weekend. stay with us. ts dinners as it returns this weekend stay with us we hit the bike trails every weekend shinges doesn't care. i grow all my own vegetables shingles doesn't care. we've still got the best moves you've ever seen good for you, but shingles doesn't care. because 1 in 3 people will get shingles, you need protection. but, no matter how healthy you feel, your immune system declines as you age increasing your risk for getting shingles. so, what can protect you? 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"the new york times" reporting on how he's turned florida into a laboratory for right-wing policies in order to boost his presidential ambitions. but his self-promotion is coming at the expense of his own constituents, literally. here he is denouncing calls to reduce student loan debt. >> why would you make a truck driver or a waitress or a construction worker pay off the debt for somebody that did a ph.d. program in gender studies? >> he's ignoring the pain of the people he's supposed to be representing. florida has one of the worst student loan problems in the entire country. 12% of voters there have student debt. the average person owes more than $35,000. again, desantis is focused solely on the maga base, telling them it is time to make cartoons great again. >> when we were young, you could watch cartoons without having to worry -- >> desantis is 43 years old. that means when he was a kid, he probably saw cartoons that actually had a lot to worry about, like the racially offensive crows from "dumbo." one of them is literally named jim crow. and tom and jerry, there was a character called, quote, manny two shoes. in peter pan, kids saw this offensive representation of native americans. the scene is called "what makes the red man red." 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>> well, a couple of things here. so in terms of the connection, i mean we know that ron desantis is trying to play to the most vile and nastiest culture wars in this country. the maga base thinks that everybody else is to blame for their economic condition. the fact that their jobs are leaving this country, the fact that they can no longer have a single person working in the household, generally the man, and raise a family and send those kids off to college and own their home, that their economic crisis is somehow the fault of immigrants or the fault of black people or the fault of lgbtq, you know, education and the fact that there are two men getting married and having kids. ron desantis is fundamentally tapping into the core of what he hopes his base will be when he runs for president. but here's the thing. here's what the irony has always been about the maga base and the arguments that animate them, which are always this excuse and blame game against diverse people for their economic condition. originally, you know, there was a conversation when trump got elected around, oh, these folks are just having economic anxiety. but when you've got a guy, when you've got the governor who is willing to literally bankrupt an entire community, to make taxpayers now foot a billion dollar bill that otherwise disney was paying in order to function and operate in the jurisdiction that he is now trying to snatch away control from, there's a real disconnect there around the economics of people's day-to-day lives, their pocketbooks, how their community is going to suffer with regards to things like roads being paved and the education system and the basic resources that disney was ultimately subsidizing, and the fact that he is now playing into them and saying, oh, well, these are the people who are your problem. i think that there's a lot of irony here and i find it unfortunate that those voters don't really see that it's all an okie doke, it's all smoke and mirrors. i hope that people rise up and recognize that it's bad for their purse to push these policies. >> well, let's talk about that specifically. does desantis care that this attack on disney could hurt taxpayers and florida's economy? does he care? >> i think he only cares if it mounts the blowback and pushback that might threaten is chances of winning that republican nomination first in 2024. desantis is a very practical bottom-line politician. he's replaying the same playbook which allowed him to be elected governor in the first place. he ran as an ultra right maga conservative with a very strong republican challenger, adam putnam, and just ran circles around him. in the first year or two, tried to run a little bit more of a moderate, centrist in his first year as governor when he got presidential ambition fever again, he went hard right. now that i think he feels like he's got the re-election in the bag, he's raised over $100 million, right now the democratic play in florida is not quite as strong against him, at least according to the public opinion polls. he's doubling down and trying to make the case, don't even think about donald trump, i am the true heir to maga. i am the type of president that won't compromise. and i think that's the game he's clearly playing in realtime. so no, i don't think he cares. >> we're going to be having this conversation in the next few weeks about student debt in a much larger context. 12% of florida voters have student debt. so i get that you have desantis trying to own the libs but there also has to be some pushback from the economic reality, as you said, of floridians who either have that debt, have family with that debt or someone who's not able to sell their house because the generation that they would sell it to is saddled with too much loan debt to buy it. >> yeah, this is all so interesting to me, alicia. no one seems to care in terms of the rabid base of the republican party about arguments and ideas that directly affect and impact their own lives. there's really a witch hunt that is always the playbook. the staunch conservative base has always used lgbtq people as a wedge. they have always had dog whistles and racist subtexts to their campaigning. it is what they do. it is ultimately their entire strategy for trying to win campaigns, so bring people into bigotry, bias and homophobia. at the end of the day all of the conversations that we have about student loan debt and how it's going to benefit people, how this relief will help folks buy homes, et cetera, that's not really what they care about. what they care about is a culture war. and when i say "they" i'm talking about a minority, but a minority of people that are loud and a minority of people that he thinks he's going to ride the backs of in order to get into the white house. and so everybody else. everybody else that would care about conversations around student debt relief, whether they're republican, democrat, moderate, agnostic or otherwise, get erased from the conversation altogether because they're pandering to people that care about one thing. racism still wins, bigotry still wins, bias still wins on the right. that to me is a problem, and the thing that we can't forget or we have to continue to talk about. >> i've got about 30 seconds left but i have to ask you, what i think i hear you saying is whether or not voters hold desantis accountable comes down to whether or not they are able to connect the dots between economic reality, economic hardship they are set to face as a state and these moves that desantis is making. you do polling, you do messaging. what is it democrats need to do to connect those dots both as floridians but nationwide as he becomes a nationwide candidate? >> very simple. i think it's a function of making the case of how democratic policies have improved, alicia, quality of life for voters and getting away from fighting the battles that it's desantis wanting democrats to fight. the culture war battles is exactly what they want to engage on. they don't want to allow the democrats to go on offense about what they have done to make the economy grow, what they have done to grow 8 million jobs, what they have done to increase the opportunity to go back to normal after the pandemic because of how they administered public health. as long as democrats play on the maga train of this grievance culture war politics, it's a problem. if they shift to what they have done and describe what the republicans would do in office is take those efforts away, those initiatives that have helped americans' lives away, that is where i think democrats will be in the strongest position. but don't fall for the briar patch game of playing culture war politics. >> right. this is where he wants to be having the argument. aisha mills, fernando, thank you for spending time with us. still to come. what is elon musk doing now? 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>> i think it says two things. one, this is going to be sort of a -- just a little key hole view of what twitter will look like when he has the ability to set the policies. and not just the policies, when he has the ability to help to encourage what gets recommended and what doesn't get recommended. another thing is that it actually is a clearer illustration of something that musk himself has said which is he acknowledges that he became red pilled, which is the process by which you become a far-right extremist and he's used twitter before to advocate that leftists and liberals and progressives become red pilled themselves. in some ways he's a convert to some extremist ideology. this thing that this trolling and this behavior is actually not something super calculated but just an action of his authentic self. this is a small snapshot of the future of what we're going to have to be dealing with. >> if it is that key hole and snapshot, what happens if he opens the floodgates to extremists? >> one, let's say elon musk takes it over and this deal goes through. putting aside all the roll backs of policies that he could put into place, and boy is that significant, the one thing that is certain is that twitter will not play a role that it's been playing, which is twitter was often a vanguard putting in place some of the protection, policies and moderation efforts. it's not because they were a good actor, it's just that the nature of twitter because it's smaller than other platforms and its audience is more elite and more connected to the media, it tended to be a little more responsive to pressure, but that mattered. because twitter going first then could be used as pressure to get all of the other social media platforms to act. so no matter what happens, even if elon musk does not change a single thing, and he will, the one thing we know for certain is that twitter will no longer be a vanguard. so the capacity to respond to future threats has basically been greatly eroded. when he says free speech, what he really means is free for all. that's all you need to know twitter will look like. so the cesspool people recognized twitter can be at times, that is going to flood over and not just affect people who are very active on twitter, it's actually going to have an effect on the entire information landscape. >> angelo, you spend a lot of time watching an monitoring fox news. what do you make of the fact you have these fox hosts cheering musk on? >> i think that they see the potential here to shape the future of -- you know, to shape the future of the information landscape. one thing that fox used to be, and it sort of no longer is anymore, is that it used to be right at the front and center. it was defining the agenda. it was out first. now it has a very important role in amplifying the agenda, but that amplification is just coming from the online echo chamber. they do meet resistance and pushback from policies that push back against extremism and disinformation. ironically the far right, the thing elon musk says is happening, they're much more effective at censorship, banning books and implementing a lot of extremist policies in real life than they have been in the last two years on the social media platforms. so they see this as the next front in the culture war and that's why they're cheering for elon musk. what it really means is that it empowers their lies and enables their politics. >> angelo, thanks for spending some time with us. a secret memo reveals the gop playbook to attack democrats on immigration. that's next. democrats on immigration that's next. in this market, you'll find fisher investments is different than other money managers. 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>> it is devastating. it should always be up to a woman what she decides to do. any decision between her and her doctor what she decides to do with her pregnancy. this is settled law for decades now and now we are reversing ourselves which has to be just terrifying for every woman in this country, whether or not you are attempting and trying to have a baby or not. and it is just -- i cannot even imagine living in one of these states right now and thinking that this right has been taken away from you. what option do women have right now? and so this will be devastating. but the only way that we fight back is we fight back at the polls. as we've seen, republicans will continue to pass these terrible bills all across the country that will restrict abortion access. >> except in some ways, you grew up in texas. you keep your eye on your home state. even as we're talking about what is happening in oklahoma, i very much have texas on the brain. take a look at this data. since last fall, 45% of texas women, 45% of texas women seeking abortions have been forced to cross into oklahoma for abortion access. i think we tend to talk about this as a state-by-state issue when really this is regionally becoming more and more of a challenge. what happens to people carrying pregnancies in texas if they cannot go to texas to receive care and they also cannot go to a neighboring state like oklahoma? >> absolutely. if you are a texas woman right now, you don't have a choice. and that is why you've seen stories in the state of women putting their lives in danger. this is something that is a crisis. it's a crisis in texas, it's a crisis regionally. and if more states pass laws, it is a crisis nationally. we'll keep our eye on what the supreme court does, but this is a crisis for women all across the country. i'll tell you, alicia, that i have had many talks with my husband and my family about moving to texas eventually to be with family, to be closer to home. and when you're looking at states like that, are those the values that you want to raise a family around? i mean it is just -- the fact that these attacks on women are just something that we're not only seeing in texas but all across the country, when does it stop? it's terrifying. >> and then you think about all the families, as i know you do, who cannot afford to leave, who have to live with this reality. i want to turn to another story while i have you. biden today meeting with the mexican president. as republicans look to weaponize immigration, "the new york times" revealing a detailed 60-page internal memo prepared by right-wing congressman jim jordan revealing the gop's latest plan to politicize the issue for the midterms. the memo insinuating immigrants could be sex offenders and criminals, despite plenty of studies that show immigrants in the u.s. actually do not commit crimes. they commit crimes at a lower rate than native born americans. republicans also directly using truly outlandish rhetoric toward homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas as he testified this week. >> my constituents want you impeached because they believe you've committed treason. >> the chaos on our southern border is not an accident. it's deliberate, it's on purpose, it's by design. >> they compare you to benedict arnold. you know, no parent with a last name arnold names their kid benedict. they wonder what would the mayorkas family do down the road? >> next year if we have the majority in this committee, which we shall, you're still in office, you'll face impeachment. >> dems hitting back saying republicans are more interested in getting fox news spots than actually fixing immigration policy or engaging in honest debate over real questions like whether to edged the pandemic era policy allowing u.s. border agents to expel asylum seekers to mexico, known as title 42. so i want to ask you about both of these things because i think they are part and parcel of the same strategy. what do you make of these extremist attacks on secretary mayorkas, and what do you make of this 60-page memo basically announcing the ways in which the republican party plans to weaponize immigration in time for the midterms? >> well, first of all, secretary mayorkas is an honorable man. i think that what he he is doing, anyone that takes on the job of dhs secretary, very stressful, high profile, but he has a lot on his plate right now. and my question that i pose to republicans is what do you disagree with that secretary mayorkas has put forth? secretary mayorkas has increased law enforcement at the border. they added 600 law enforcement officials at the border. he's ensured that we're increasing security. he's asked congress for more funding to do that. and so he is trying to work with congress to ensure we're doing everything we can to prepare for the surge in migration. it is congress who is politicizing it at the moment when he's trying to use every tool in his arsenal to ensure that we are dealing with the surge. in terms of the attacks, alicia, we've been to this movie before. every midterm election and every presidential election, immigration tends to be the top issue that republicans want to fear monger about. it was caravans before. you had trump run on this. he ran on the border. and over the last i would say two or three elections, we have seen republicans try to use these tactics and it doesn't end up working. my warning to democrats is we know how to win on the issues, we know that people want order and they want a humane process at the border. now let's run on that and let's talk to people about those policies, because whenever you're looking at the polling, voters stand with democrats on this, they don't stand with republicans. >> thank you so much for walking us through all of this. the white house correspondents dinner is back. what we are hearing about it, that's next. back what we are heinarg about it, that's next. family just ordinary eggs when they can enjoy the best? 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"the reidout" with joy reid is up next. good evening, everyone. we begin "the reidout" with what sure looks like a growing civil war inside the same political party that is doing more than just a little flirting with insurrection. we are awaiting news from the january 6 committee that is investigating round one of that attempt to replace american democracy with something more authoritarian. the committee is expected to issue letters to at least three republicans asking them to testify. the committee is also moving forward with plans to hold its first public hearings in june. but the last few weeks have been -- they have been full of signs of something -- something odd happening inside what had felt like an entirely unified republican party.

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