hotline led to the arrest of frank james today in the east village. just before that announcement we got some video from our new york station, wnbc, appearing to show james entering the subway tuesday morning right before the attack happened. you saw that vest on that was referenced as well. i want to bring in chris jansing who is live for us in brooklyn along with jillian schneider, retired nypd officer. chris, let me go to you first. we heard some details from police on how the arrest went down. what we still don't know and what they were cagey about in many reports was the motive, why this happened. >> and that's what a lot of people here who are riding this subway every day wanting to know, because talking to people just for the last couple of minutes about how you feel now that you know that this guy is in custody, it is first some sense of relief. i can tell you from talking to people all day there's been tremendous nervousness among the people who ride this subway every day but also the explanations they give. but my sister, she works here every day. another one of my relatives rides this subway every day. i think that sense of nervousness, which is so palpable for city officials and has been for some time, even before this shooting incident, hallie, is why you heard them say almost with a sense of relief, we got him, we got him. there was nowhere left for him to hide. a lot of what made them change from calling him a person of interest to a suspect was found at this subway station behind me, which by the way has had a lot of police officers all day today, including that glock 9 millimeter, which they were able to trace to him purchasing it in 2011. key piece of evidence. but in the end it was that phone call. there is crime stoppers phone line here. new yorkers know it very well. somebody called in. and i think this in some ways will add to the nervousness. before people didn't know where he was. now they know he got on another subway. he road a subway out of park slope and they got a call at crime stoppers saying he's at the mcdonald's in the east village. when police responded and went there, even though he wasn't there, they were able to find him at st. mark's place. anybody who's a new yorker knows that. it's probably the most popular place in the east village, places where thousands of people pass through every single day. the idea that he was in a mcdonald's and that he was just walking around st. mark's place when they were able to arrest him, again without incident, hallie. a lot of relief here but also a little hesitation saying there are bigger problems. >> chris, can you stand by for a minute. i want to go to jillian to you here. one of the things chris referenced and we heard in this news conference was the charge under a statute that references terrorism but also other violent attacks against mass transportation systems. what do you make of that. >> so right now they're going to charge him as -- honestly, i think that they're going to want to look at all the footage, take all the witness complaints, take all the complaining statements, assess the injuries to each other and then they'll be able to draw what are the appropriate charges. he's only been arrested for an hour and 10, an hour and 15 minutes and we're still waiting to see if the federal government will get involved and if they are going to prosecute him. >> the fact that they founding him miles -- chris referenced the east village, moving around pretty freely. is that something you think the police would debrief on after the investigation? >> absolutely. but you have to remember we're a city of 10 million so it is very easy to hide in plain sight here. the most important thing we should draw from this is from 30 hours from incident to arrest, that is very impressive. law enforcement came out in full force. most importantly, the community came out, they supported their law enforcement officers and they made those phone calls to the tipster loin. >> tell us more about the tipster line. you heard police and officials in new york give credit to the person who called this in that allowed them to go out and make this arrest. >> we've used it for years. you can remain anonymous if you want to. some people would prefer that method rather than calling 911. there was a reward in play. their description of where the offender was led to the ultimate arrest. >> a pile of evidence too that police had collected from the scene, that law enforcement officials had recovered after the shooting happened, jillian. i imagine that is going to be something the prosecutors will be using and looking at closely as this investigation continues. >> yes. and i'm glad that law enforcement waited from person of interest to suspect. until they had all the information, they didn't want to release anything rematurely. they waited until forensic evidence came back, prints came back, they got the trace on where the firearm came from, they were able to ascertain who was the person who rented the u-haul. so they wanted as much concrete evidence as they could to move him from person of interest to suspect. within a few hours, he was apprehended. >> chris, to be clear, this federal charge from the eastern district of new york under this terrorism and other incidents of violence on mass transportation, this is a suspect as we heard that is known to police, chris. they have had interactions before. they outlined a pretty decent rap sheet. >> reporter: yeah, mostly misdemeanors but he was known to police. it was also significant that he went across state lines. they're looking to see what the tentacles of this is. you're going to work backwards and see where was he originally, how did he get here, what are the things that happened along the way, whether it is getting those guns or buying those fireworks, all those things will go into a more complete picture of what happens. what is clear is they feel they have enough at this point to tie it to him, including the keys that went to that u-haul that they were able to tie to him. so very quickly they were able to close the circle, make his world very small, as they said. so the investigation went the way a lot of those folks have been saying for the last 36 hours or so. we have some of the best investigators in the world. we know how to do this, and clearly they did. on the other hand in the end, and we've seen this before. it was if you see something, say something. a couple of people said that to me today down in the subway. i said are you doing anything differently? and they said, well, i'm really paying a lot more attention, seeing if i see this guy, and if i see something, say something. clearly that was a difference in this case bringing it to such a quick conclusion, hallie. >> i talked to one expert who said it is a matter of time. it's not a question of if, but when they capture this suspect. given the mountain of evidence collected at the scene, the way they were able to track him down, chris. and clearly the news has made its way to new yorkers who are considering to ride the subway at that very station where you are. and that moment from mayor eric adams who appeared virtually at this news conference because he is isolating with covid right now, of course, saying we got him. looking for that we got him moment there. >> yeah. and look, this is something a lot of people said to me today. it's not optional for me. i need this subway system to be safe. i need mayor adams to keep the promise that he made when he ran. the woman who said to me that she was looking at bus schedules because she was afraid to come down here. the other woman who said her family did not want her to ride the subway but she had an appointment to get her booster shot. the mother and her teenage son visiting from ohio on his spring break and she talked about her nervousness. this is a city that's trying to come back from a ridership that has dropped to 60% what it was pre-covid. that has so many implications, implications for people obviously going to work but what is always typically the busy tourist season, something that accounts for tens of billions of dollars in revenue a year. so the tentacles and the importance of this arrest and police getting this arrest very quickly go very far, hallie. >> chris, thank you. stand by if you can. jillian, you too. i want to bring in our justice correspondent, pete williams, who has been tracking this the last 36 hours or so. pete, we heard in this news conference that played out here live officials laying out what happened, the arrest. explain where this goes next. we have this federal charge now. what happens from here? >> before i do that, let me show you from the charging documents what i think is the key piece of evidence here. this is from the charges that have just been filed. this is a photograph that's in the charging document here. i don't know why that little strange white thing is showing up. but this is the portion of the gun that was recovered from the subway yesterday. you can see the serial numbers that are on the weapon. and the court documents say that this scratching here, both here and here, indicates that james at some point tried to obliterate the serial numbers, obviously unsuccessfully. but it's those serial numbers that allowed atf to trace the purchase of the handgun back to a gun dealer in columbus, ohio, in 2011. and that's where authorities say frank james bought the gun that was used in the shooting. so that's the key piece of evidence that flips him from being someone last night declared a person of interest to today being the suspect. that of course plus the key to the u-haul van that was found at the shooting scene as well as a credit card. now, some additional information that was not at the news conference that is in these charging documents. they say he rented the u-haul van about 2:30 in the afternoon. video shows it driving other the verrazano narrows bridge and entering brooklyn. at about 6:00 in the morning the surveillance cameras show him going into the kings highway metro stop -- subway stop, and that's where this video was taken by mta cameras. you see him trying to swipe his metrocard to get through the turnstile. you see what it didn't work for some reason. he can't get through. other passengers are easily going through the turnstiles and this won't work for him. so he eventually tells the station supervisors and they let him use a different entrance. one other detail that is spelled out in the court documents that was referred to in the news conference, after the shooting, after the shooting yesterday morning, a surveillance camera recorded james getting out of the next stop north on the system at 25th street. so apparently what happened here, according to the authorities, is he makes -- he does this shooting. he pulls out the smoke canisters, fills the subway car full of smoke, fires 33 times. when the subway comes to a stop, the train stops, the doors open and he walks across the platform along with many of the other passengers trying to get away from the gunman. he joins them, goes into the subway train and goes one stop north up to 25th street and then takes the stairs and walks out. as to what happens now, he's been arrested. he's in state custody. he'll be transferred to federal custody. he'll appear before a federal magistrate judge for an initial appearance on this single count of violating a federal statute that makes it a crime to attempt to harm people or harm facilities belonging to a train system. so it's not, strictly speaking, a terrorism charge. that's in the title of the statute but not in the terrorism section of the u.s. code. there are a couple of statutes they could have looked at, and that's the one. the other thing is this is early on in the process. they can always file more charges later. >> tell us about that, pete. what would the expectation be? >> well, he'll appear before a magistrate and at some point there will have to be a grand jury indictment. that's required in the federal system. that will either restate this charge or add new charges. that's probably a month away. but he'll have an initial appearance in court. so he's going to appear in court sometime either today or tomorrow to have his initial appearance and face these charges. >> pete williams, our justice correspondent who's been all over this story from the start. pete, thank you. our thanks to chris jansing and jillian snider. we're going to stay on top of this story but we're also getting an update on the war in ukraine from the pentagon. we'll tell you what we're learning next. later, that new cdc announcement on masks today. more on what you should know before you get on a plane, train or other communication. plus why donald trump's former chief of staff just got kicked off the voter rolls in north carolina. off the voter r north carolina [zoom call] ...pivot... work bye. vacation hi! book with priceline. 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it will include 11 mi-17 helicopters. those are able to be armed with weapons to take out russian tanks. the u.s. will provide 500 javelin anti-tank missiles, 40,000 rounds of artillery, 300 switchblades which are kamikaze drones, unmanned vessels like drone ships to attack russian assets as well as 200 m-113 armored personnel carrier, so this is heavy stuff we are providing to the ukrainians. president biden saying in a statement today that the steady supply of u.s. and ally weapons has helped ensure putin's initial failures in this war. biden saying we cannot rest now. we should point out, hallie, that this new batch of aid welcome back very carefully sdiengd to help the ukrainians to help them with what will be a new strong offensive from the russians, especially in the east, in the donbas region, where it fight is likely to be very different. we're not talking about kyiv anymore and the ability from guerrilla warfare against troops in alleyways. we are talking about vast expanses where the russians are likely to have literally thousands of troops, major battles, and the ukrainians will need newer and tougher weapons. that is what the u.s. is aiming to provide with this latest $800 million of security assistance. >> josh, thanks. gabe, let me go to you. you're getting a look at the push to clear out land mines that russians left behind. but the focus now, and we're hearing it from even defense officials in the pentagon, is what's happening in the east and in the south. the mayor of mariupol is estimating that 20,000 people there have already been killed. talk to us about the developments on the ground and the concerns about this convoy of russian troops in the east. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, hallie. first i want to mention something john kirby just said a few moments ago. he said this is the first time the u.s. has provided artillery to the ukrainians as part of that aid package but it does not include some things that president zelenskyy has asked for, most significantly combat jets of course and tanks. but what josh said is true. this is some heavy artillery that is now being provided because they anticipate that the battle will shift in the east. now, you mentioned mariupol. still some concern there. the russians are claiming that there was a mass surrender in that besieged city. of course that has not been verified. but today a senior u.s. defense official has said that the belief is that that city still has not fallen to the russians, hallie. yes, i want to talk a little bit about what we saw today in an around kyiv, actually in the western suburbs and past that about 45, 50 miles to the west of kyiv. there is still a frantic effort here to get rid of booby traps, trip wires, land mines. ukrainian authorities are going neighborhood by neighborhood, village by village trying to find those and also still looking for more bodies. hallie, we've been talking about this for days but we are still seeing signs of new atrocity in that area. today we just visited a kindergarten. actually the second one we visited in as many days where the children were not inside the building but it appears to have been targeted. it's been bombed out. the parents and teachers are just devastated. we also witnessed today that ukrainian troops were actually finding russian artillery left behind and taking these weapons of war, clearing them out and we made it to what was once the front lines but it is now a dirt road littered with these weapons. hallie, this is something that is ongoing. woe met one of the residents who took us inside a cellar where the russian troops had been there weeks before. they had spent quite some time there and they had told the residents to leave the area or else be killed. certainly some harrowing stories still coming out of this region even though, as you said, now the battle has shifted to the east. we've just also heard in the last few hours that officials in kharkiv, the second largest city in ukraine, they say there has been increased shelling there and also several people have died, including children. hallie. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you for being live for us in ukraine from kyiv on the ground where this is happening. i appreciate it. ambassador mcfaul, let me go to you and your takeaways from what we've heard about the u.s. position and aid to ukraine. >> fantastic, terrific. i applaud what they do. it looks like they have added some new things in terms of the helicopters. that's a significant development. the artillery, that's a significant new development. and what's not there is also important, right? tanks and fighter jets. so that's the difference between what president zelenskyy wants and president biden is giving. so i applaud what they have done now and hope they will continue to provide the weapons that the ukraine anz need to defeat or fight to a standstill the russians. the battle for donbas will be the final big battle of this war and we should do everything we can to help ukraiians prevail in that war. >> we expect to hear jen psaki talk about that today. since president biden himself said the word that he had not said up until this point, which is genocide to describe what is happening to ukrainians by russians and by vladimir putin. do you expect any shift in policy from the u.s. perspective now that the president has made that declaration? >> no. i mean i think he's right to say it. i think he's right to say the strong things he said about president putin and mr. putin's war. horrific, homicidal genocidal war. when you bomb innocent people, kill them and try to clear the city of human beings, that's what they're doing in mariupol to seize the city, it's not really war. but the real focus needs to be on more weapons and more sanctions. when i talk to ukrainians, including president zelenskyy just yesterday, that's what they want us to be focused on because they think they're entering the crucial, just several weeks of this war. debates about genocide and international war criminals, that will come later. >> you talk about the next few weeks of intensity as it relates to this invasion here. there is some focus it seems increasingly on may 9th which is a big holiday in russia. do you see that as meaningful in this discussion? >> most certainly people use that date. i've been to that may 9th. that's the end of world war ii, right? i've been to those parades when i was a former ambassador on red square. it is by far and away the most important date in russian history for vladimir putin. he's kind of made it a quasi-religious thing, by the way. he's really made this a giant event. yes, they would love to have victory on may 9th. let's not forget, ukrainians fought in world war ii as well. putin doesn't get to have a monopoly. and i hear from ukrainians they would love to have victory on may 9th as well. >> ambassador mcfaul, thank you for your perspective and expertise. coming up, what trump officials are set to meet with the 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registration after some of these reports came out that he was registered to vote at a mobile home in north carolina where the former owner claims meadows never stayed. msnbc news reached out to meadows and his team, got a no comment. ali vitali is on capitol hill. ali, walk us through this move from these county board officials here and the broader significance, given meadows' role when it comes to the big lie that former president trump was pushing. >> reporter: yeah, exactly, hallie. i'm so glad that you bring up the irony to this, which is meadows is one of those trump allies who for months now has pushed the idea of the big lie. which is to say widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election when it appears that he may have done something similar himself. because if you look at what the north carolina board of elections is telling us here, they are looking specifically at this one statute, referencing as you mentioned the fact that meadows voted last in virginia despite having this registered address in north carolina. i can pull up for you too that specific statute just so we see what the language is. it says if a person goes into another state, county, municipality, or election district, or the district of columbia, they will be considered to have lost residence in that state or other election district from which they are removed. all of which is to say he didn't live at that address in north carolina so he can't vote in north carolina. not only that, but was previously voting in another state. so you have that as the on the ground and they are still looking into that, the state board of elections is actually doing an investigation there, specifically the state bureau of investigations trying to suss this out. he's been kicked off the voter rolls and that larger picture of irony that he is one of those key members, not just someone the january 6th committee wants to talk to who is currently in the midst of the doj deciding whether or not they'll move forward with the contempt referral, but at the same time one of those purveyors of the big lie which this is the news we're getting today. >> ali vitali with that reporting. thank you. speaking of former president trump, two of his key former white house lawyers are talking with the january 6th committee. pat cipollone on the lef -- also noting both of these attorneys pushed back on the former president during his final days in office making it clear that people would resign if he pushed through an acting attorney general just three days before the january 6th insurrection. joining us is betsy woodruff swan who is scooping this story for politico and joining us here on msnbc. betsy, viewers might recognize these two former white house attorneys because they were lawyers for the former president's impeachment trial previously in the senate. this is also an informal -- as you describe it, an stwoermal, voluntary, quote, unquote, discussion with the committee. they have not been subpoenaed. this is not happening under the penalty of legal muscle here. explain that. >> it's a chitchat. no one's arm is being twisted. there's no threat of being held in contempt of congress or other sort of legal problems that could arise. what that tells you is that at least at this point as far as we know regarding what led up to this meeting being scheduled, cipollone and philbin had both signalled to the committee that they were willing to share information at least to some degree without needing to have a subpoena hanging over their heads for them to play ball. we also know of course that there's now a large body of legal rulings from a variety of judges saying that the kind of arguments trump and his allies have been trying to make to keep people like the two pats from cooperating don't hold water. that's something without question that both of these lawyers would have taken under consideration. pat cipollone, who was the white house's top lawyer during those crazy final weeks of the trump presidency has so much information that he can share with the committee, particularly he was in that meeting you referenced on january 3rd when just about every single doj official, every single senior doj official except for one, jeff clark, threatened to resign if trump installed clark as the acting attorney general at the department. cipollone famously said that trump's effort to use doj to try to flip the election results would have been a murder-suicide pact. that's the term he's been quoted as having used. and that if trump tried to do it, he would step down. clearly those threats worked and trump did not take those steps. questions about how much crazier things could have been are likely to be front of mind for the investigators talking to both of these lawyers. >> you make the important point that pat cipollone in particular, really high-profile member of the former administration, and we've seen a number of high-profile people come and talk with the committee. jared kushner, ivanka trump, et cetera, et cetera. what we don't know, right, is specifically how much information these people are providing. and so it makes it, it seems, a little bit hard to read into how much pressure might be ramping up here as it relates to the committee. >> that's right. we don't know what's happening when these conversations happen. we don't know the extent to which committee investigators are satisfied or dissatisfied with the level of cooperation that they get. but the fact that these folks, including jared kushner, ivanka trump and now these two lawyers have engaged with the committee not under subpoena signifies that at least at this point the committee doesn't feel like it needs to twist arms to try to really force people to tell them everything they may know. one other question with cipollone involves what he was doing during the day of january 6th. we don't know if he directly interacted with the president on that day. i don't think there's been reporting either way regarding the tick tock of how his day wejt. that's something investigators are likely to press him and philbin on. >> thanks for coming on the show. appreciate it. we've got some breaking news out today from the cdc. the federal mask mandate for transportation, planes, trains, et cetera, that is extended now into early may. it's going to last another couple weeks. meaning, yes, you do have to mask up if you're going to fly or get on the acela or whatever for just a little longer. the cdc says this will give them time to look at this current uptick in cases. let me bring on tom costello who covers aviation for the network. so not popular with aviation officials. i know you've spoken to the delta ceo about this. very clear where he stands, which is we don't want this mask mandate anymore. the cdc is saying give us another weeks here. why? >> first of all, the airlines are tired of this. they're tired of the controversy, they're tired of the anger, they're tired of the hostility that has been directed at their open employees. we had 7,000 cases of bad behavior just since january of 2021. 70% of those cases are related to the mask. now, why are they going to extend the mask mandate when the airlines are screaming to drop it? because the ba.2 subvariant, which is the new variant that's spreading fast, is spreading fast. as you know 10% of the people at the gridiron in washington, d.c., came down with covid. we still have 500 people dying every single day. while dr. fauci says the situation is not static, it is continuing to evolve. they need to understand it better. and the truth is if you are vaccinated and boosted, chances are you are at a very low risk but because of the subvariant, they want to extend it. airlines say, listen, if it's okay to be in a bar when nobody is masking. >> and an area of low transmission. >> and the vast majority of people who live across the country are living in counties and cities where there is no longer a mask mandate, why would you require it in a plane and the answer is we need to understand this better and it is a risk. >> dr. walensky has been asked about this before and the response so far and we'll see what jen psaki says if she addresses it when she hits the podium in five minutes, is, well, travel is different. it's a little different than when you're in the community. >> i think everybody is in an impossible situation. whether you're dr. fauci, dr. walensky, whether you're the airlines, whether you're the tsa. >> or a passenger, right? >> of course. everybody is troog to get through the day and not get covid. it's a risk. but is it overkill? some members of the congress think so. the senate voted to abandon the mask mandate. the president threatened to veto. two more weeks, we're extending to may 3costello, thank you ver much. coming up, why mark zuckerberg is not going to be donating millions of dollars to elections and offices across the country again. some local officials say it was really important. 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to their health. i want to play for you harley walker, a 15-year-old transgender girl. an activist who tried to stop this law. here's what she told me about her fear about this situation. >> this year how we've tried to lobby to not get these bills passed and just last week, you know, seeing everything go down that went down and seeing them passed, it's hard. it's scary. hundreds of other trans kids in the state of alabama would lose the guide to ourselves and our own life and our own happiness. >> harleigh says she would even consider moving out of alabama, leaving her family and her brother, serving in the alabama national guard, behind in order to get the care she needs. so many other teens i talked to says this care has helped them mentally and physically. remember, this is a population already prone to suicidal thoughts and mental health issues. the aclu says this is a violation of their rights, so it's moving through the court with two lawsuits already filed in alabama against this law. >> real quickly, yamiche, i think you had a chance to talk with one of the republican sponsors of this bill, right? >> that's right. i talked to wes allen, a sponsor of the bill. he told me this is a law to protect children. that children are too young before 19 to make these decisions about their bodies. but i talked to the families, and the families say this is not a quick decision. that they have whole medical teams, psychologists and doctors that work with these children to make sure that they understand what's going on and to give them the proper care. so harleigh is on puberty blockers and there are other kids who are on hormones. there's really, i think, in some ways a misconception in the fact they think minors are getting surgery, which parents tell me is just not the case. >> thank you so much for bringing us that reporting. i'm going to talk with you at 5:00 over on our streaming channel, thank you. next up, with nonprofits focused on elections without money from a 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