President trump is wrong. Under the constitution, i had no right to change the outcome of our election. He needs to talk to the January 6th Committee. Its taken him 13 months to admit the undeniable. And as the Winter Olympics begin in beijing, Human Rights Abuses are in the spotlight. The Chinese Government is Holding People in Concentration Camps and also glorifying the modernday slavery. Plus were following new developments on the future of Queen Elizabeth and the royal family. Im pamela brown in washington. You are in the cnn news room. Great to have you with us on this saturday. We begin this hour with the Republican Party coming out of a buzz saw of dramatic events compressed into 24 hours. Former Vice President mike pence delivering his most forceful rebuke to date of his old boss, calling out donald trump and his lie that pence was in power to overturn the election. And there are new images of the violence energized by the big lie that the election was stolen. The Justice Department has released more videos of the january 6th attack on the capitol. We want to warn you some viewers may find the graphic images and obscenities disturbing. The cursefilled rant youre about to see from one protester is a reminder that mike pence was very much a target for not obeying trumps illegal demands. I hear pence just caved. No. Is that true . Im hearing reports pence caved. Im telling you, if pence caved yrks were going to drag mother f fuckers through the streets. Were not going to have our election stolen. Were going to drag your ass through the street. The Republican National committee has kren sured two congressional members for investigating the siege, or as the rnc called it, legitimate political discourse. The partys leader Say Liz Cheney and Adam Kissinger are taking part in, quote, the persecution of ordinary citizens. Now, the rnc has since responded to criticism of the censure. Lets begin with the newly released videos from the day. We are joined now. You have poured through these. Whats your take away . So pam, the department of justice released last night as you mentioned, new videos that show just how shocking and how violent and frightening the events of january 6th were. And as the video you just showed, its important to play these videos, as shocking as they might be to viewers because as you mentioned the Republican NationalCommittee Said just yesterday that the january 6th attack was, quote, legitimate, political discourse. Now, this next video that im about to show and again, warning folks that there is a lot of frightening images here, show just how violent the attack was on january 6th. Lets take a look. Come on. Lets go. My god. Up. Up. Up. So as you saw at the end of these videos, pam, riders really cheering as Capitol Police are being attacked, and these videos are going to be used as evidence in the Justice Departments investigation where theyve already theyve already arrested hundreds of rioters throughout the capitol that day. And two sources tell cnn as of the morning of the right rooi yacht, President Trump spoke on the phone. Before we get to what congressman jordan told me yesterday, i want to provide key context. The January 6th Committee has in its possession white house call records that show former President Donald Trump wanted to speak with jim jordan on the morning of january 6th, and the pair spoke for ten minutes while trump was still in the white house residence. Now, this is significant, because the pair spoke in the morning before the Election Certification Process happened. And jordan was a key trump ally on the hill trying to help trump in his efforts to stop the Election Certification Process. Now, jordan has admitted that he spoke with trump on that day, but hes been very evasive and unclear about how long that phone call was, how many times a day they spoke. What time of day they spoke. So i spoke with congressman jordan in the halls of congress yesterday to try and pin down some of the details, take a listen to what he had to say. As i said, i had a number of calls with i talk to the president a couple times a day, but i dont remember the times. You dont remember if it was the morning . If there was one in the morning. I dont recall, but i know i talked to him after we left off the floor, but i dont know so as you can see, congressman jordan not wanting to get more specific there. And these are key details, conversations that the committee wants to learn more about. In fact, the committee has asked jim jordan to speak voluntarily with them. Jordan has declined that offer. So the committee is now currently weighing whether or not it wants to take the unprecedented step of Subpoenaing A Sitting member of congress, namely jordan, but The Big Picture here is the January 6th Committee is writing to write the definitive narrative and timeline about what happened to what happened in the days leading up to january 6th, and specifically the day of january 6th, and the details of this phone call provide a new piece of evidence that can be added to the timeline of that day. Yeah. It certainly does. Annie, graung. And now lets turn to mike pences pushback. It may not have been a big mic drop moment, but he raised eyebrows before a group of conservative lawyers. Pence rejected Donald Trumps lies that the thenVice President was in power to overturn the election. I heard this week that President Trump said i had the right to overturn the election. President trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American People, and the American People alone. And frankly, there is no idea more unamerican than the notion that any one american could choose the american president. Under the constitution, i had no right to change the outcome of our election. Donald trump has responded. He didnt attack pence directly in the way weve seen him attack other critics, but he said the current efforts in congress to keep a Vice President from taking that action shows that it was, indeed, a legal option for pence. Just not true. Joining me now is a washington political reporter for Business Insider and a journalist who has covered pence from the governor to the white house. Hi, tom, good to see you. So the Capitol Attack was about 13 months ago. Why is mike pence choosing this forum to make his strongest statement yet against the former president. Thanks for having me. Real quick, just before i hop in there, no longer Business Insider. Im a contributor at vanity fair and yahoo news. Well make sure our team has those notes. Congratulations on your new role. Thank you. Look, i was surprised by this yesterday. And i think what were seeing here, you know, i wrote about in a piece for vanity fair earlier in january, about a month ago after watching his speech at the university of iowa. You seen pence come out of his shell more. And you know, look, its mike pence. Right . I mean, we dont hes not bombastic the way trump is, but every movement of inches is a movement of miles for that guy, and going out there and saying that is heavily calculated. Him and his team, they obviously see some kind of path for him potentially for the nomination in 2024. And ultimately potentially the white house. And hes doing things the way hes always done throughout his career which is methodically. I mean, in a very distinct sense, its kind of antitrump. How concerted and methodical it is. Right. Weve sort of been building up this to memt. Incrementally, he has said things here and there that he didnt have the power to do this. And so forth. This is the most direct he has been about it. And of course, it comes on the heels of trump outing out in his Statement Last week that he could have overturned the election. But you have to wonder had pence pushed back like this a year ago, would it have mattered . Great question. I mean, look, you know, 13 months ago, you know, right after january 6th, he had the power to help try to invoke the 25th amendment. He ruled it out in that moment. You know, a lot of people thought his career was over. A couple months later, he gets back on the campaign trail. Of course, hes not actually declared. Nobody is actually declared for 2024 yet. But theyre all Running In The Shadow primary right now. And hes doing it slowly. And for me, really, The Turning Point which you saw some of this stuff as you point out, pam, has been out there before. His statements on january 6th are hes been talking about how its unamerican for one person to decide an election. Hes been saying that before. And he keeps pushing the ball, as you said, a little bit further, and you know, look, this one caught. And i think, too, if you look at the way that trump responded to it, trump is not giving it oxygen. Which is fascinating. Interesting. Yeah. What do you make of that . Weve seen trump go after critics. I mean, no matter who they are, he will go after them, and that was not the case with that statement that trump released. Exactly. Well, you know, in a very real sense, remember this, too. Why was pence brought on to the ticket to begin with . I wrote about this extensively in the book. You know, back in july of 2016, why is he brought on to the ticket . And its because of the new demographics he can bring into the fold for trump. But also remember, too, that Reince Priebus and paul ma manafort, when they pushed pence for the ticket, they were thinking about the down ballot races. A lot of the same groups, i write about this a bit in terms of the difference between teleevangelicals and the Midwest Evangelicals who are quieter about these things and might have stayed home. That was the concern. And i think what were watching here is pence holding onto the same groups that he developed that rapport with before. Hes going to the federalist society. The thing with pence is youve got to watch his actions more than the actual messaging. And hes doing it methodically. It goes to florida. He does not get heckled. That was astounding. You know . So this guy is a viable candidate right now. He must have been able to sense that he would not get heckled for coming out and saying that. And remarkably on the same day that the rnc censured those two members, liz cheney and adam k kinz kinzinger. Tom, thank you. Thank you. Police say two people are dead and one injured after a shooting near milwaukee. You can see here the dramatic video of officers running. One holding a child away from the scene. Running away from the scene. Police say officers arrived at an Apartment Complex this morning and found a Person Firing A Gun from the second floor. The suspect then started shooting at police, but officers did not return fire. No officers were harmed in the standoff. Police say the suspect, a 26yearold black man is also dead, and that the incident started as a domestic incident between two people. The investigation is ongoing. Coming up on this saturday, with u. S. Troops now in europe, are we close to seeing more breakout on the russian, Ukrainian Border . We have quite the expert here. That would be former u. S. Ambassador to ukraine william taylor. Hes going to join me next and break it down for you. And as china hosts the Winter Olympics, nba Star Ennis Canter Freedom joins me live. 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The message is, this would be a bad mistake for you to assume that the nato allies will stand idly by if you start moving your troops and tanks toward nato allies. So this is designed to deter mr. Putin from starting that war with ukraine. So yes, i think this is a good message. And it is designed to nudge mr. Putin toward negotiation instead of invasion. At the same time, though, russia does not want to look like it is ever capitulating to the west. Is there any concern for you that this could inflame tensions with russia at an already very delicate situation there at the border . Pamela, its very clear the cause of this problem, and its mr. Putin. Its the russians. First they invaded ukraine in 2014, and now theyre threatening to invade again. So this lets be clear about where the problem is. The problem is not ukraine trying to defend itself. Or nato trying to support ukraine defending itself, or the United States trying to support nato defending helping ukraine defend itself. The problem is russia, and no, i think the message has to be to mr. Putin, do not invade. It will be a bad mistake economically, financially, but also militarily, because ukrainians will fight back and many russian soldiers will die. So mr. Putin needs to decide not to invade and he needs to decide to negotiate. A few days ago u. S. Officials allege that russia is planning a false flag operation that would be a pretext for the invasion of ukraine. Theyre saiding to planning a graphic propaganda video that would portray a fake invasion of ukraine. Whats your take . Thats what the russians do. Theyve done this before, and theyre undoubtedly thinking about doing it now. This is part of their information campaign. This is part of their attempt to justify an attack on ukraine. Theyre going to put russian soldiers and Russian Special forces into ukraine. Some are probably in ukraine right now. And theyre going to have these russian soldiers attacking maybe into russia or maybe into other places, and they will be able to blame. They will try to blame the ukrainians for doing this. This is what they do. This is the false flag, and they will supplement it with these videos. Theyll supplement it with all kinds of information designed to make it look like the ukrainians arent ones on the attack, when, in fact, its clearly the russians. You have new troops in the region. You have false flag operations. None of this really sounds like deescalation. What would that look like to you . Deescalation would look like a message, some of which, pamela, were getting now. A message