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Spreading and getting at an unprecedented rate. And Cornell University is going virtual after Reportinger Inly 1,000 new cases on campus. The message remains clear. If you are fully vaccinated get your booster shot. And democrats chris mat deadline to pass their sweeping Spending Panel is better, but President Biden does not sound on mystic today. Its going to be close. While build back better is in legislative limbo is causing action on voting reform instead. They are future fighters, and we have to pass the john louis Voting Rights act. Joning me now is kristin welker, cohost of Weekend Today and garrett haake. We have more reporting on what we expect senator shooum tore do. Yeah, bottom line here is that there is a new concern about it coming down to two fairly simple problems. They dont have a finished bill yet. The paid leave portion, the tax reduction portion, they dont have a finished bill or the votes, joeman manchin continues, and there is just not enough days left, so democrats are now conceding that build back better will happen next year. Whether or not there can be another legislate i item, perhaps a Voting Rights push, is another question, but it wont be build back better. And we heard what the president said this morning, it didnt sound very confident about that christmas deadline, what are you hearing . I think youre right, andrea. The fact that we heard a very measured tone being echoed with sources saying their skeptical that build back better can pass before the new year. There is skepticism that that can pass, and garrett just outlined it so well. So what is the strategy moving forward. There will be a focus on twisting arms. I think woe would not be surprised to see him have another conversation in the coming days, and a real focus on getting build back better passed in the new year. With each passing day it gets more difficult because of the allimportant midterm elections. It is a key part of the biden agenda and a lot of the Campaign Promises encapsulated in the sweeping piece of legislation. If he were to over see Congress Gettingings this passed, the margins are very narrow. Democrats being able to hold on to both chambers and the time is now. People who are working on this to get something down now or in the new year at the very latest because it is a difficult time. A real loss of momentum there. Thank you for all of your reporting. Mark warner, what do you think is the chance for Voting Rights that has to go into the phil buster waiver. It was done for the debt ceiling. Listen, i think it is a great point. You cant change the rules, you cant change the rules, were about to drive over the cliff on a debt ceiling. We could have thrown the whole economy into chaos and we changed the rules. When we see the Dramatic Change Taking place that democracy is replacing independent commissions that count and certify the vote with partisan bodies. That would be a disaster. That would be a disaster as we know it. And were seeing it in republican states right now. If that is the norm you could see it on the other side as well. We need to come in and find a way through this process and frankly i want to point out that we had a 25 increase over 2017. So this early voting does not Favor One Party other the other. That is hard to convince my republican colleagues. So how do we get it done . I think there is a way that you could do a once a year appropriate Amendment Process where we actually maintain the filibuster. I thought when i first came here 12 years ago that if you want to phil buster something you had to stand up and talk. Thats not the rule right now. Maintaining the requirement once a year for a talking filibuster, and you have to show up with 40 colleagues to hold the line. That preserves the idea of the filibuster to give us a path to make sure that we provide that fire truck and firefighters. He has talked about it in the past. Joe and i are really good friends. We spent a lot of time and it was joes effort. Ahong with eight others that put together the bipartisan infrastructure bill. It is an investment from roads, to bridges, to broadband. So i worked with joe, were in those kerkss right now, and time will tell. There is not much time, can you do it by chris . We need to make sure that next year no matter what team you support that every vote will be counted and reported accurately. I was thinking, i know you dont focus on the house side, but in the house side some of the recent texts that have been released and in their debate yesterday, and in the hearing the day yesterday, there was support and Text Communications back and forth. About nullifying the election. Where joe biden won by 80,000 voting, but changing the outcome of elections could that add to the impetition of this. I think we have become immune to things that at any other time is using front page news. But when you have members of of congress, how can you overthrow the democratic results of the peoples choice. If that doesnt care you, if we need to make sure on a Going Forward basis that no group from either party can overrule the votes from americans that ought to be the top priority. That is what the senator has laid out and someone that wanted to make sure, Department Want Our County Troy Go over the cliff on a debt ceiling. Smnt we do the same for democracy . Turning back to the social pending bill that we were talking about, it is very clear theyre going to have to pull it down. There is no way they can get a pass by christmas. How big of a set back is this for democrats . Im not sure putting deadlines sometimes forcing mechanisms, sometimes they dont work. In my conversations he always said he wanted to see the final bill birdie he made his although decision. And the truth is, we still dont have the final bill. Some of that is because there are one or two issues that need to be resolved. But without getting into the arcane reconciliation there is a scrub and a bath, sounds like an intimate bathing procedure. They have not finished all of those things. We dont have a bill because it has not gone through the krub and the bath. They just reported at the top of the show, the steps have to be taken. I dont know about it, but all i want for my birthday and christmas, one present, protecting democracy in this country, not too much to ask, i dont think. Mr. Jefferson of virginia would be proud. Thank you so much. The great common reality of virginia. 100 residents are still missing following the devastating tornadoes. Mike memoli is in dawson springs. The president will be very affected by what we have seen. He is trying to connect with local officials that have been praising the federal response, right . That is right. Up to this point, i have been like you watching the great coverage, trying to capture the enormity of the devastation here. It takes your breath away and that is the specious that the president is having right now. There is one of several stops here. They want to see what they have done to these communities. It is a moment when the president can play that role. We have been hearing about some of the federal resources sent to kentucky and other parts of the region here that have been affected more than 130,000 liters of water. When they talk about this and the impact on peoples lyes, he talks about the kind of personal momentos that are tangible to people. It is so soon after a disaster, and they dont want to be disruptive of some of the recovery efforts, but coming here and talking to folks on the ground so to send a message that the federal government is responsive, that it is there to rebuild and to work with the local officials, but to hear for himself as well. They are dealing with these disasters. And it is likely we will hear about hem coming from the weeks and months. Trying to make sure the recovery is a smooth one. So heartbreaking even as they try to begin clearing the area. But it may never be the same. They cant recove erg lost, but they have so much resilience. Thank you they are charges against their former colleague. Plus, the latest on the investigation. This is Andrea Mitchell reports. Crepe corrector lotion. Only from gold bond. O man, thats a whole lot of wrinkly at least my shoes look good looking good start with bounce wrinkleguard, the megasheet designed to prevent wrinkles in the dryer. I brought in ensure max protein, with thirty grams of protein. Those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks Sighs Wearily here ill take that excited yell woohoo ensure max protein. With thirty grams of protein, one gram of sugar, and nutrients to support immune health. tis the season to break tradition in a cadillac. Dont just put on a light show be the light show. Make your nights anything but silent. And ride in a sleigh that really slays. Because in a cadillac, tradition is yours to define. So visit a cadillac showroom, and start celebrating today. vo whats better than giving a better phone so visit a cadillac showroom, and start celebrating today. This Holiday Season . 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Nearly all democrats, and liz cheney and kinzinger. Now the committee is continuing with its work in the meantime yesterday. Keith kellogg, the former National Security advisor to then Vice President trump downplayed that and said nothing has been reported. Tlood are several figures scheduled to testify. Jennifer lawrence, not that one, an activist that helped put together the rally that lead to the capital attack. Two others have had them postponed. Based on the fact that if you refer them for criminal charges day dont have to cooperate. They can do the time and the committee wont get the information from them. There is big names that are scheduled to appear including Jeffrey Clark who is knee deep in the effort to get doj to stop the certification of the result all in the next few days. Well see if and when they show up and what they say. Lets talk about the similarities as they review the Meadows Referral and the steve bannon referral. I think it is far more difficult for two reasons. He stonewalled the committee, meadows produced thousands of documents, and they provided the testimony, and he was a former Chief Of Staff. I dont think it is going to hold up ultimately, but never the less, it is trump, the department of justice, Prosecuting Meadows For Criminal On tempt when they have litigated a question that has not been fully resolved. So if you were a betting man, which youre not, certainly not when it comes in the courts, would they put this in front of a grand jury . They may try to collect additional evidence. If you mean collect the evidence, get testimony, use that to make a better decision about meadows . Sure. If they charge him, if i was a betting man, and youre right im not, i would think this comes down on a decision not to prosecute. But also, you know, in the interim he could change his mind or it could resolve the executive privilege question. And the Text Messages show why that is so important, maybe meadows doesnt get prosecuted again. Phil, how is all of this being processed by the former president , his closest advisors and others exposed by those Text Messages . This has not been a good week in terms of january 6th investigations for the former president. Because of the criminal contempt charge, also by the text mess ans that was coming out earlier. They created a lot of complications for some of the more conservative rightwing hosts. There is advisors with President Trump because we saw that they were trying to back channel with mark meadows to try to persuade the president to call off the rioters. This is all a complicated problem for these figures because if the one hand their trying to discredit january 6th, trying to whitewash history, but the Text Messages tell you something very different. When you look at the legal impetus from this committee, they produce a lot of information, hundreds of witness thats aing and they seem to be quietly revealing some of the details, so its not just the riot, its clearly the conspiracy to nullify the election . Absolutely. Both aspects of that are crucially important. We need to hold accountable the folks that assaults aurss, damaged property, and also the contours of what you justerered to, the largest conspiracy. So two very important aspects of one investigation as you know. Fill, another problem for the president and you have been covering this intensively. The federal judge now has thrown out the challenge from the former president s, blocking the ways and Means Committee from his tax returns. He will bring this up, but if he loses in the long run, what will that mean . That is something that former President Trump has been trying to prevent happening for years now, trying to stop access to his tax returns. It is something that they have been trying to investigation for some time to build that financial architecture. And whether or not there is any fraud at hand here if appears that the courts are clearing the way for congress to get this and keep in mind some of the other investigators have obtaied the documents. That is not something that the president wants to happen but it appears he is increasingly losing when it comes to his finances. They are all looking into some issues. Thank you so much to all of you. Sahil and chuck, and of course phil rucker. And Havana Syndrome struggle. Senator Jeanne Shaheen has been following this and will speak to us, next. Following this and wilo us, next u gotta eat fresh. Eat fresh. Thats why subway bought time in my shampoo ad. To talk about the new baja chicken bacon. Body, bounce, and baja. Bounce. Eat fresh. No one can deliver your moms homemade short ribs. Thats why instacart helps deliver the ingredients. And you add the love. 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Medical experts found evidence of permanent brain damage in some cases. A recent review said there is no agreement on the cause or who could be blind the attacks. A leadinger this i have microwaved directed energy. Russia denied any involvement. Williams burns on a trip to moscow warned that the u. S. Would take swift action. In october i spoke exclusive sloi several of the original victims that reported hearing a advantage sound related to their symptoms. It was a lot worse earlier. It was persistent, kind of at the same level all of the time. Very, very loud. On our right was another Embassy Family and the people on our left and across the street from us were both Canadian Embassy employees. All four households were diagnosed. Joining me now is Jeanne Shaheen who has lead the effort to make sure they get compensated and proper medical care. Part of what youre doing is the Defense Authorization bill, correct . That is correct, what we want is a coordinator not just in the various agencies where they had personnel attacked, but someone that can coordinate the entire bill. We want to know exactly what is going on so that we can respond if is very troubling that this happened years ago and we dont know who is responsible, we dont know the cause or who is doing it. Fei years they have been suffering and we dont know what is causing this. Some people are still questioning their reported symptoms, what is your explanation for who is involved in this. I think it is, as you indicated microwave directed attacks. We know several countries that have the ability to do that. They also have the global footprint that would allow them to have people working in countries where we have seen attacks on our personnel. Every continent except antarctica. It is important for us to keep a focus on this, not just to make sure the people attacked get the help they need, but to also find out who is responsible, who is doing it, and put an end to it. The state Department Says theyre doing everything that can, are you satisfied with what they have done so far . I think the State Department improved significantly. They have two former ambassadors working with those people that have been attacked. They are making sure that people are getting the health care they need, so i think that theyre making significant progress. I think it is important for us to continue to Pay Attention to what is happening. Thats why part of the lack wage and the amendment in the defense will that will hopefully pass today requires reporting so we know what is being done and what more we can do to make sure that people are being heard and getting the help they need. I want to also ask you about afghanistan. I know you met with Angelina Jolie today. You have been championings them. Is there more that the u. S. Can do to try to get more people, more women out, activists, who are all being targeted but dont have a direct connection to the u. S. Military and dont have the rights that citizens and others have to get flights out . Well, i was pleased to see her interest. She has been passionate about what is happening in afghanistan. She has a school there she continues to support and we talked about several things. Number one about raising the concerns that were hearing from women and girls in afghanistan so they know theyre heard about what is happening to them and about our opposition to the taliban and fact that what theyre doing is not acceptable. Also to ensure that there is humanitarian assistance to millions of afghan thats are facing a difficult winter. Women and children are always the most impacted. So we need to find ways to work through so we can make sure they get food to survive this winter. Let me ask you quickly. It seems like build back better will not be done by christmas. I was just talking to Senator Warner who believes that we should, you guys, should just use the remaining days to try to get a phil filibuster waiver. We certainly need Voting Rights to get done. Its the most core part of our democracy, and in protecting our democracy we saw on january 6th of this year the threat that were facing. Were seeing it in multiple State Legislatures across the country where Voting Rights are under attack even in my home state of new hampshire. I want to ask you about the spread of the coronavirus. What do you think is going on . That is very troubling. We have more optizations and deaths at this time than any time since january. And while were working to get people vaccinated, we dont have as good of a record as everyone, so we need to encourage people to continue to get boostered, to continue to wear facemasks, and do all of the things that work in this pandemic. Until we defeat covid well never get our lives back to normal or see our economy works the way we want to. The ability of families to enjoy, and especially for this Holiday Season we want people to enjoy their families, get rest, and not have to worry about covid. Thanks so much, senator, former governor of new hampshire. Good to see you and happy holidays to you. Same to you, thank you. The rapid spread that we were just talking about. The highly contagious Omicron Variant means that hospitals could be facing a very long winter. That is up next. G winter that is up next. Is struggling to manage your Type 2 Diabetes knocking you out of your zone . Lowering your a1c with onceweekly ozempic® can help you get back in it. Oh, oh, oh, ozempic® my zone. Lowering my a1c, cv risk, and losing some weight. Now, back to the game ozempic® is proven to lower a1c. Most people who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. And you may lose weight. Adults lost on average up to 12 pounds. 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He is torically, but with alpha and delta we had a four to six week lag period, but it looks leek it is happening faster, ordinarily i would have predicted it is bigger by january. But it looks leek it will hit us harder over the holidays, and this is really escalating very quickly. This is about 10 to 13 of the virus isolates, and thats where you get, you know, youll be in for a tough time over the christmas holidays. What do we see with all of these travelers, this could potentially make it that much worse. Thats right and potentially expose travelers more than usual, families are haves discussions, maybe cut back a little on ambitious plans over the holidays. I think the big worry that im seeing now is on the Health Systems and the hospitals. Were seeing a lot of Breakthrough Infections among people, certainly if they have only two doses of the vaccine, but even some that got three doses, breakthrough infegss, and my concern is among the Hospital Personnel and the staff. We will have a lot of people calling out sick when there is a big surge. So i expect a big strain as we move into the holidays. Do you think this is still delta, not omicron . Were seeing a fred now, and 33 states have omicron . No problem, they are gaining faster than i would have thought. A couple weeks ago i would have said omicron is a distant problem, lets focus on delta and now i think were really seeing this rapid rise and i think were starting to reproduce now what is happening in the u. K. I think it will be on us faster than a number of us originally thought. Were just starting to see the thanksgiving numbers. Covid cases are up 58 . And this is new york, of course, where i am today and were, you know, expecting a Hog Day Surge in new york and new jersey. Yeah, the big Talking Opponents is the surchlgs. Im concerned about Hospital Staff Calling in sec because of breakthrough covid, and the last piece of this is were starting at south frek where frek where a lot of kids got sick. The Health Care Workers the real heros here as all of you are. Thank you dr. Peter hotez, have a good holiday to you. On defense, former Police Officer kim potter could soon take the stand in minneapolis. Well have a live report, next. T its the easiest because its the cheesiest. Kraft. For the win win. Imagine having someone else do your books for you. As your quickbooks live bookkeeper, ill categorize expenses, reconcile accounts, and close your books. Cool. Yep. Know where your business stands. Intuit quickbooks live bookkeeping. Hi sabrina hi jen hi. So youre the scientist here. I just have to ask. Does my aveeno® daily moisturizer really make my dry skin healthier in one day . Its true jen. Really . this Nourishing Prebiotic oat formula moisturizes to help prevent dry skin. One day . 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How do they explain the defense, try to explain, i guess, how she got it confused. Ill get into the arguments were hearing from the defense. But the use of force expert hired by the team and he just testified that the force that officer potter used was inappropriate and excessive. Now, again, this is a state witness. This is someone that theyve hired but right now theres actually a break in the trial as theres a side bar at the defense raising some objections to his testimony. But you mentioned what we have been hearing earlier today and both yesterday. It was the focus on the use of a taser and the training that officers have received with that taser. Of course, a gun was used in this instance rather than the taser, but the prosecution is trying to underscore the importance that even a taser wouldnt have been appropriately used in the situation in which the gun was ultimately used. The defense is firing back and instead of talking about the differences between the taser and the weweapon, theyre talki about the two devices and youre hearing that play out back and forth in the courtroom. Its clear shes going to testify. Police officers carry great weight, usually, before a jury. But is it a good idea to have her testify . Andrea, in this case, i think you have to have her testify and this isnt strictly analysis. Part of what happens in a court ks any time it involves a killing, they almost have to take the stand and express remorse. Weve seen that from her already in the body cam. She focuses on her fear of going to prison more than her concern that she killed daunte. Theyll get to a crittal can issue that we only marginally covered in this trial and that is whether or not she acted with criminal intent, which is what the case will turn on and also expect to see what weve seen already in terms of daunte being blamed for the outcome of this case which is dangerous for the defense. But i still expect to hear from her on the stand. David henderson and shaq brewster. When do we think she might testify . We dont know the exact timing yet. But when you compare the prosecutions witness list, theyre reaching the end of opportunities and options to call other witnesses. So as soon as they wrap up their case, it will go over to the defense. The Defense Attorneys say she will testify and we just dont know if she will be the first to do so or later in their presentation, andrea. And, david, is there any, you know, legal impact of this . You know, this kind of case . Is this to establish a precedence or is this just a terrible tragedy on all sides . This case is a terrible tragedy, andrea. But it is going to have an impact in the broader reform because what Police Officers will claim is it represents the circumstance where youre convicting an officer or attempting to for making a mistake on the job. One of the interesting things on how the facts developed in this case. Confusing a gun with a taser and acknowledge that is the mistake she made. That will play out in a broader context. Indeed. Thanks to both of you. Thanks so much for being with us today. That does it for this edition of Andrea Mitchell reports. Follow the show online and on twitter. Garrett haake picks up our coverage right after this. Ld rin. A surgery that takes as little as 45 minutes and your act of love can change a childs life forever. Please call or visit operationsmile. Org now. Thousands of children are waiting. Frequent heartburn . Not anymore. The prilosec otc twoweek challenge is helping people love what they love again. Just one pill a day. 24 hours. 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