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president biden at a briefing announcing he will be traveling to kentucky wednesday. >> this administration has made it clear to every governor whatever they need when they need it, when they need it, make it known to me and we'll get it to them as rapidly, as rapidly as we can. >> we just learned osha is launching an investigation after a tornado destroyed an amazon warehouse in edwardsville, illinois, killing six people there. i'm hallie jackson with you this afternoon in washington along with our nbc news team on the ground covering the aftermath of these storms. wendy wilfolk is in mayfield, kentucky, and wendy, let me start with you. you're in what seems to be the epicenter of these storms, and i know you've talked with people who are devastated. they lost their homes, they lost people they love. >> reporter: indeed, hallie, good afternoon to you. i am struck by the people's resilience as they go through what they've lost, which is their lives and their livelihoods. if you look at the downtown area, it is ground zero, the epicenter of this storm. we talked to people who used to live in what was the homes behind me. thankfully four people that were in this house and two dogs survived. the one next to it, she wrapped her arms around her 18-month-old granddaughter and they live to tell about it. we actually found one of her son's first christmas ornaments behind me near my foot during a live shot. you can't believe what these people have been through and live to tell about it. they tell me, this is our communities. we have raised our children here and we will rebuild. >> it was something that i haven't been able to sleep just thinking what i'm going to do now. everything is gone, my job, my roots, i don't know what to do now. this has been a rough day. >> reporter: this town's fire station was devastated and the water tower here. so not only do they not have power in this town of 10,000, they also don't have water and a sewer system. so as these people are trying to dig out what they've been able to salvage, we've talked to people who are looking for court documents because he ran a small law firm in this town. thankfully everything survived -- everyone survived but they are able to find some of the documents as people are calling him and saying, hey, what about my case? there is just no camera lens, there is no story, there is no word that can simply describe this. hallie, i can say that i've done this in the neighborhood of 25 years. i've covered hurricanes, i've covered blizzards, i've covered polar vortexes. i've covered tornadoes living in texas. i've never in my life seen anything like this, and it's not about me. i'm just the reporter here. these are people's lives we're talking about and there are no words to describe it. >> it is still, even now, 40 hours later plus, it is still shocking to see the images on the left side of your screen as we've been talking with. and i know you also, to wendy's point, have been hearing these stories about people who are just in pain and suffering, trying to figure out how they even begin to figure out rebuilding. >> hallie, everywhere you turn in this, homes destroyed, businesses that are just flattened to the ground. behind me here that used to be an auto parts store, used to be a restaurant in that lot there. you can see it's just rubble now. and where i'm standing here at this moment, this right here used to be the inside of a garage. you can see we're clearly not inside anymore. this whole thing was torn up from the ground. this belongs to merlina. she is a mother of four. she said this was filled with her children's toys, and now they're scattered all across this neighborhood. you see remnants of a children's wagon one of her kids used to use. she told me about just the horror, hallie, of the actual physical experience when something like this comes out. you hear stories of people hiding in closets, in crawl spaces, in their bathtubs. merlina hid with her kids in her closet. take a listen to what she told me. >> i told the kids to go in the closet and they were looking at me like, why? i said, just get in the closet and be good. then i heard a loud, loud noise like a lot of things coming toward you. when the shaking started happening, i hung onto the trim of the closet. >> reporter: hallie, one of the hardest things to see here and to hear is not just the stories that people tell, but you walk around here and you'll see residents that are just standing and looking out, taking a quiet moment to themselves and just looking at their neighborhood knowing that it's never going to be the same. i mean, take a look at this area behind me. they have been working here all day long, residents, people who have come to help from outside of town. this was a mound of debris that was maybe 20 feet in the air. it looks a lot better now but there's still so much work to do, and i think that's what's so hard for folks, is waking up and seeing the sun come up on this day after day and knowing that there is such a daunting task ahead of building back, hallie. >> thank you for that in bowling green. megan, let me turn to you, because in the last couple hours we learned that osha will be investigating that collapse at the amazon warehouse. is this something that typically happens? what are we hearing from osha about amazon here? >> reporter: hallie, that's right, osha making that announcement not too long ago. they said this is an investigation that will last about six months here. they even had personnel on the ground starting saturday. what they're looking for is just the action amazon took. they're trying to see if there are any violations of workplace safety or health that they could find. if so, citations will be issued as well as monetary penalties. as that investigation is going underway, we know from amazon just moments ago telling us they wanted to keep their folks inside the building for their own safety, telling them there were sirens leading up to the moment when this tornado tore through, telling folks to shelter in place on the north and the south end of this facility. unfortunately, around 8:30 on friday, that tornado just ripping through the south end, killing six people. we know those employees' ages ranging from 26 years old all the way to 62 years old, including carla hopes' 29-year-old son clay. her husband also worked here but wasn't there at the time of this tornado. as you can imagine, she is just devastated. i want you to listen to what she said to us earlier. >> your dad and son essentially have the same job. >> they worked in the same building, same shift, they just worked opposite days of the week. every wednesday they worked together. essentially if my son hadn't been there, my husband would have been. >> does that weigh on you? >> yes. in that i felt like i would have lost one or the other no matter what. >> reporter: just one of several families devastated just days before christmas. we know that amazon has launched their own investigation. the state of illinois says they will also be investigating. amazon saying employees have been placed on leave and they are still getting paid, but trying to assist in any way they can, giving families rental cars. but what this community needs now is just healing. hallie? >> and time and prayers. megan fitzgerald, thanks so much for that. i appreciate it. i want to bring in now on the phone the mayor of bowling green, kentucky. you just saw dasha burns reporting live there. mr. mayor, can you hear us okay? >> i can hear you. >> thank you, and thank you for joining us this afternoon. i know service has been spotty for the last several days here. can you give us an update on the numbers you're hearing in your town, how many people you've lost, how many are still missing. >> well, you know, we are still -- as of last night, we are still recovering remains. our latest from our county coroner was 12, and that number is rising. out of respect to the families, we're not releasing that. we still do have a missing member that we believe that we're continuing. communication is difficult because we don't have internet, we don't have cable. all we have at the moment is cellular data. >> given how tough this is to count, do you have any idea of the number of homes and businesses lost here? >> we have about 500 homes that have been severely damaged. we have probably about 50 homes that have been completely demolished and are gone, and then we have different levels between that. >> it's horrible to think about the people and families behind those numbers, mr. mayor. what have you seen and heard as you've been out today? i know you've been in the car. i know you've been talking to our team earlier as you're driving around and trying to talk to folks and surveying things in bowling green. >> i'm just right now at a mosque in our community because i'm talking to the community leaders of a bosnian community that's been part of us for 20 years. we have families here that don't understand the process for red cross or fema or registration. we want to get them help, so the community leaders are reaching out, but it's all about communication. so we have to go boots on the ground. we have to go meet face to face. we can't rely on the communications we have with the internet because it's all coming from outside in. people were calling, sending texts. that is working, but we don't have any way to communicate out, so we have to go out and communicate and try to make these things work and accomplish. >> as you've been talking to folks and as you've been hearing some of these stories and sharing stories, as you say, with community leaders, have you heard any tales, perhaps, of hope or any stories of heroism, mayor alcott, that have given you a measure of hope during this critical time? >> we have help across our police. kentucky as a whole, they are coming from corporate, they are coming -- people are driving. a lady handed me $600 cash and says, i drove all the way from dayton, ohio, which is over five hours away. i have eight stepchildren, i've been blessed, and i want to give to your community. she just handed it to me. i'm just speechless. it's across the board that we have this kind of outreach and people wanting to help. we're trying to organize that and it's very difficult at the level that it's heading, but we're better than day two, better than day one to be able to organize and distribute the help that's coming to us. >> mare todd alcott of bowling green, kentucky, mayor, thank you for carving out your day for us. i know it's been difficult for you. to people around the country, thank you. we have more including the search for survivors in the collapsed candle factory in kentucky coming up during the show. what the supreme court has just said about vaccine mandates. this is just coming in to us. lawmakers investigating the january 6 insurrection getting ready for an important vote about mark meadows with his team, saying he's ready for a showdown over executive privilege. and how the california governor wants to use the new texas abortion law to try to curb gun violence in his state. we're talking about that later. e we're talking about that later ♪♪ the only thing a disaster can't destroy is hope. ♪♪ donate now at redcross.org i may have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. or psoriatic arthritis. ♪♪ but we are so much more. we're team players and artists. designers and do-it-yourselfers. parents and friends. if joint pain is getting in the way of who you are, it's time to talk to your doctor about enbrel. enbrel helps relieve joint pain, and helps stop permanent joint damage. plus enbrel helps skin get clearer in psoriatic arthritis. ask your doctor about enbrel, so you can get back to your true self. play ball! enbrel may lower your ability to fight infections. serious, sometimes fatal events including infections, tuberculosis, lymphoma, other cancers, nervous system and blood disorders and allergic reactions have occurred. tell your doctor if you've been someplace where fungal infections are common. or if you're prone to infections, have cuts or sores, have had hepatitis b, have been treated for heart failure, or if you have persistent fever, bruising, bleeding or paleness. don't start enbrel if you have an infection like the flu. visit enbrel.com to see how your joint damage could progress. enbrel. eligible patients may pay as little as $5 per month. o man, that's a whole lot of wrinkly at least my shoes look good! looking good start with bounce wrinkleguard, the megasheet designed to prevent wrinkles in the dryer. - san francisco can have criminal justice reform and public safety. but district attorney chesa boudin is failing on both. - the safety of san francisco is dependent upon chesa being recalled as soon as possible. - i didn't support the newsom recall but this is different. - chesa takes a very radical perspective and approach to criminal justice reform, which is having a negative impact on communities of color. - i never in a million years thought that my son, let alone any six-year-old, would be gunned down in the streets of san francisco and not get any justice. - chesa's failure has resulted in increase in crime against asian americans. - the da's office is in complete turmoil at this point. - for chesa boudin to intervene in so many cases is both bad management and dangerous for the city of san francisco. - we are for criminal justice reform. chesa's not it. recall chesa boudin now. miss crawly, it's me mr. moon. i haven't heard from cyou in awhile, i'm starting to worry here. ♪ grab a brush and put on a little make-up ♪ make-up. ♪ hide the scars to fade away the shake-up ♪ you whoo. your destination is on the right. okay. whaaa! so as mentioned, we're following some breaking news just in from the supreme court in the last couple minutes with justices allowing new york's vaccine mandate for health care workers to stay in place. i want to bring in nbc's pete williams who has the latest on this. pete, why did they decide not to block it? >> they don't say why, this is just an order of the court. this is a request for injunction, so this is not a ruling. we don't get lots of details. it's simply the court refused to grant this injunction that was requested by some nurses and doctors in new york. this is the fifth time that the u.s. supreme court has declined to block a state vaccine mandate. it's been done for health care workers already in maine and massachusetts, for students in new york and at universities to decline banning mandates. they said the court should have taken the case, that there were some legitimate problems here. the objectors, the people challenging the law, you don't have to take the vaccine if you can get a medical exemption, but there is no religious exemption and they argued that was an exemption of their religious freedom. pete, thanks for the update. thanks so much. before you go to bed tonight, it's probable that mark meadows will be one step closer in contempt of congress. that's because in a matter of less than four hours now, the january 6 select committee is set to vote on that tonight with a full house vote, our team thinks, in all likelihood tomorrow. and an attorney for meadows sending a letter to the committee saying he should be exempted from the privilege that former donald trump is claiming. they have a 51-page report making the case for contempt charges against mr. trump's former chief of staff, including an e-mail he allegedly sent the day before the capitol riot saying national guard troops, quote, would protect pro-trump people. his lawyer has not responded to that particular claim. i want to bring in leigh ann caldwell. leigh ann, tell us about will happen in the next 24 hours when it comes to mark meadows' request to congress, shall we say. >> reporter: they are going to send it to the full house of representatives. this is a step they've taken two times before in the past couple months. we saw that with steve bannon and we also saw it with jeffrey clark, a trump administration justice official. it comes on the heels of a 51-page contempt report which you referenced which really lays out a case saying mark meadows was instrumental in the lead-up to january 6 and on that day. it says they want to ask him many questions about the information that they have received from meadows himself in the few weeks that meadows was cooperating with the committee, he turned over 9,000 pages of documents. so this 51-page report is just the committee's side of things. it doesn't seem like we're going to get mark meadows' side as he is not cooperating, of course, the reason for this contempt referral. meadows' attorney, however, released a letter and sent it to the committee saying in part, the contemplated referral would be contrary to law because a good faith invocation of executive privilege and testimonial immunity by a former senior official is not a violation of not cooperating. however, the committee has responded multiple times, including in their contempt report, saying you turned over 9,000 pages of documents. why is that not executive privilege and you coming to talk about those documents is executive privilege? they think it doesn't add up, so they plan to move forward, hallie. >> leigh ann caldwell keeping an eye on all of that for us. leigh ann, thank you. breaking news with our team confirming that the country's top military leaders are all agreeing that no u.s. service members will be punished for that deadly drone strike in afghanistan back in august that killed ten civilians. you probably remember this. it happened around the days of the u.s. withdrawing from the country, and the pentagon said at first with the drone hit was a, quote, legitimate isis target. that's their description. but later they said the strike actually hit an aid worker and his family with seven children among the victims. nbc's courtney kube is at the pentagon. talk through how they got to this decision and what you're hearing from sources about it. >> reporter: that's right. you'll remember after this strike the military said this was a legitimate target. then the pentagon in september said they believe there may have been a problem, a mistake, and that they may have killed civilians. there was a pretty extensive review that was carried out by the air force inspector general, general sayed. after that he briefed us and found that there was no violations here of any kind of law of war, that this essentially was a tragic mistake. there were a number of procedural problems, confirmation bias that went into the fact that the military carried out a strike on this location, killing ten individuals, including seven kids, and of course the one who we've heard the most about, he was an aid worker. in the aftermath of that, the pentagon has even said they would provide payment to the family members of those who were killed and get them out of afghanistan. that has not happened yet, hallie. after general sayed's report came out, he said it was still possible that some of the commanders could find some people responsible for the mistakes that were made on that day in august. well, those two commanders, general frank mckenzie and general rich clark, the commander of special u.s. operations commands, they both came back to secretary austin and said they made a series of recommendations, again, procedural sorts of recommendations. they did not recommend that anyone involved in the strike that day be reprimanded or be punished for their role. secretary austin concurred or agreed with all the recommendations, so that did not include anything about holding anyone accountable, and that's where we got where we are today. again, i have to point out in the aftermath of this, we keep hearing from the pentagon that they will provide for the family of those who were killed, but we can say that as of today, they still have not provided any payments to the family members and they are still there in afghanistan, hallie. >> courtney kube, important reporting and thank you for bringing that to us on msnbc. appreciate it. when we come back, we're turning to the awful tornados in kentucky. we'll talk to a survivor who will tell me what he saw. we'll also talk about working on a response. all of that is coming up after the break. the break. show. make your nights anything but silent. and ride in a sleigh that really slays. because in a cadillac, tradition is yours to define. so visit a cadillac showroom, and start celebrating today. ♪ ♪ o man, that's a whole lot of wrinkly at least my shoes look good! and start celebrating today. looking good start with bounce wrinkleguard, the megasheet designed to prevent wrinkles in the dryer. at intra-cellular therapies, we're inspired by our circle. a circle that includes our researchers, driven by our award-winning science, who uncover new medicines to treat mental illness. it includes the compassionate healthcare professionals, the dedicated social workers, and the supportive peer counselors we work with to help improve - and even change - people's lives. moving from mental illness to mental wellness starts in our circle. this is intra-cellular therapies. if you smell gas, you're too close. leave the structure, call 911, keep people away, and call pg&e right after so we can both respond out and keep the public safe. earn about covid-19,ht after so we can both respond out the more questions we have. the biggest question now, what's next? 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>> we were in the closet. it was actually me, my husband, my mother and father-in-law, my sister-in-law and niece. it's just what she brought between us. >> reporter: three of her neighbors died. the coroner for this county said they have had 13 deaths, hallie, all of them here in dawson springs. we don't know exactly how many are still missing, and when you look at this destruction, you can see why, but the thing, hallie, people keep saying and what they hope the president knows when he comes here is that they need a lot of help, because they didn't just lose one or two homes, it is an entire town that is gone. people don't have toothbrushes, the most basic things. everything is wiped away. hallie? >> it is so gut-punching and gut-wrenching, ellison, to see you in the house and just to see how bad the damage is for this family. as you pointed out, there are hundreds others like them just a few weeks before the holidays. ellison barber, thank you so much for bringing us that perspective. we'll show you a different perspective now. some satellite images in braves county, kentucky. it's just hours from where you saw ellison. it tore through a candle factory. you can see it on the left and then on the right looking like nothing. i want to bring in a couple telling us about this. mark saxton was actually inside the candle plant when it looked like they were hit there. i want to thank both of you for your time. mark, let me start with you. you lived through this, you experienced it? how are you doing? >> just trying to take it day by day, help other people out, figure out our next move. >> can you share a little bit about what it was like for you inside the factory, how you managed to either get out or protect yourself inside as this tornado transpired? >> well, i went to open the door to look outside to see what it looked like in the sky, and when i looked up in the sky, it looked like an ice cream cone so i started bagging up. as i was bagging up, people started running toward me because the roof was collapsing, so i just got down on the floor in the fetal position because i thought about being stampeded and that's when the walls came down on all of us, came down on me and i had a wall on my leg and a guy was on top of me with a wall on his leg. it was just devastating. >> what happened from there, mark? how did you end up getting out? >> there was a guy that was behind me that was stuck beside me, and when he got out, i felt for the ground and i felt that there was cardboard and plywood under me, so i started digging the cardboard out to where i could squeeze my body through the hole, because he was smaller than me. i held my breath and just scooted back until they could grab my feet. when they pulled me out, i was on top of the building. but before it happened, i was on the concrete on the bottom of the building. so it picked me up and threw me on the roof. >> it's a miracle you're able to be here and talk to us, mark. commissioner, let me turn briefly to you. i know you were at that same candle factory where mark was, i believe, right after the tornado ripped through. the search for survivors is still happening there and elsewhere in your community. are there any signs of hope at this point, sir? >> we still got hope. we know that it has been below freezing and that people are still buried, but we hope we can still find survivors in this. we're still looking diligently for them and hopefully we can come out to the good of finding someone who is still alive. >> mark, can i turn back to you, because i know you were working at the candle factory the night this happened. the associated press has a story and i want to read it to you with a question in it. why these employees were kept at the candle factory remains unclear. were you given the option to leave? did you consider leaving? can you tell us about that process? >> other people were told to stay. i was going back and forth loading trucks. but what surprised me, when i went to the other factory, there were no other employees there. they don't leave until 5:00, so understand why they left but we were told to stay. i told them i was leaving but i never got to make it out of the building. >> can you tell us in more detail there? you said there was a warning, you mean the tornado warning. >> the first tornado warning we all took shelter and sat there when the sirens went off. when the sirens went off, they told people to go back to work. some people said they weren't going to work, they were going home. the people who tried to go home allegedly were told they wouldn't have a job because the candle factory runs off a point system. >> what do you mean by that? >> you get five or six points, and some people might not have but half a point left. >> i see. before they would end up terminated. did you hear any of that yourself, mark, or your experience was different? you personally i'm saying. >> i work in the warehouse, so i'm not really around the production unless i'm going to bring product or getting product. so i personally didn't hear it, but i've had at least 20 people in the hospital telling me the story. >> wow. your colleagues, you mean, your coworkers? >> i lost a best friend, jeff preecen. i lost my cousin robert daniels. i lost another cousin kayla bobbitt. >> i'm so sorry. i know that must be incredibly hard. your wife and kids, were they at home when this happened? >> yes, ma'am. >> they're all okay? >> yes, ma'am, they're okay. we lost our house. >> commissioner hayden, can i turn to you on what mark was just describing here? do you as a leader in the community have any questions about the operation of this candle factory the night the tornados hit? >> that's the first i really heard of anything like that happening. i was there at the candle factory after the tornado and we were pulling people out, and the ones that i was pulling out said they all took shelter in the center of the room. none of them spoke to me about being told to stay or anything like that, so i'm unaware of whatever he's talking about there. but, you know, that does maybe pose questions. i know -- i've done shift work before, and when you're on shift, they don't just shut down anything because there might be a tornado. once there is a warning, you definitely seek shelter, and if somebody wanted to go home, i can't imagine them telling them not to go home. this is the first i'm hearing of this type of action. i don't know anything else about that, actually. >> okay. mark, can you just tell us, you said you lost your home. your wife and kids are okay, which i know you're grateful for. what do you do now? what is your sort of short-term plan? are you thinking about where you're staying the next couple weeks? what do you need? >> i want to help, because the more of us to help, the quicker we get our lives back on track. helping keeps you from thinking about it. i haven't even processed what happened. it's like a movie or video game or something, it's just not real. >> mark saxton, todd hayden, thanks so much to the both of you. please know, as we said, there are so many people around the country thinking of you and trying to make sure they can make sure you are helped. senator mitch mcconnell is on the floor where we are on capitol hill. he's going back later this week, he said. he's working closely with president biden. this is the senator with congress before that. he said he's working with leaders there trying to cut through as much red tape as possible to get help for mark who you just heard from, todd who you just heard from, to get the help they need. when we come back, we'll talk about people in the region of the tornados, but we're also talking about this huge announcement breaking this afternoon in the sex abuse scandal. what they're paying and what it means for sex abuse survivors, after the break. x abuse survivo, after the break. concentrated. alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh, what a relief it is ♪ so fast! also try for cough, mucus & congestion. firefighter maggie gronewald knows how to handle dry weather... ...and dry, cracked skin. new gold bond advanced healing ointment. restore healthy skin, with no sticky feeling. gold bond. champion your skin. to make my vision a reality. i have to take every perspective, and see clearly from every point of view. with my varilux progressive lenses i seamlessly transition from near to far. and see every detail in sharp focus. when you see no limits, there are no limits. book now at your local essilor experts to push the limits of your vision. varilux lenses by essilor. imagine having someone else do your books for you. as your quickbooks live bookkeeper, i'll categorize expenses, reconcile accounts, and close your books. cool. yep. know where your business stands. intuit quickbooks live bookkeeping. if you're washing with the bargain brand, even when your clothes klook clean,our business stands. there's extra dirt you can't see. watch this. that was in these clothes... ugh. but the clothes washed in tide- so much cleaner. if it's got to be clean it's got to be tide hygienic clean. no surprises in these clothes! couple more surprises. breaking this afternoon, a settlement has been reached to compensate the hundreds of victims of dr. larry nassar, $380 million, one of the biggest in a sex abuse case. they will be paid to more than 500 gymnasts. with us now is mary pilen, the co-author of "twisted: the story of larry nassar and the victims who brought him down." this huge settlement, what kind of message do you think it sends? >> i think it sends a huge message. keep in mind this is in addition to university of michigan settlement of $80 million, so that is tied to one perpetrator. in the case of thousands of hours of mediation and negotiations, there is a program which will include requirements to have official roles in usa gymnastics which includes a board seat and a survivor will also be on the federation's committee of safe sport which is tasked with investigations of athlete abuse. for folks i talked to, yes, there have been huge consequences for women, and i have personally interviewed women who have struggled to get access to care, therapy, they had to quit jobs, et cetera, as a result of the abuse, but they also want systemic change and this is built into this, not just for improving the road for usa gymnastics going forward and the olympic movement, but they want nassar to be a case for all going forward. >> was there a decision made by the usa olympic committee? >> yes, the usa olympic committee has for years argued they were not responsible because larry nassar was not an employee of usa gymnastics. they changed their tune here and they are actually contributing millions of dollars as a result of this settlement. that is a shift. keep in mind in the backdrop, it is believed there is an ongoing federation movement, so the tide has maybe turned, and i think there is also a lot of momentum to try and move on and rebuild so that people can get back to competing. but there is no doubt that this has completely altered the landscape for olympic sports governance and i'm very curious to see how these federal probes are going to be continuing to shake out as well as how the gymnast will be approaching things like ongoing questions about the fbi's role in the case. as big a moment as this is, i don't think we're quite done yet. >> still more questions for sure. i know this just came out, mary, has anyone seen or heard from the gymnasts, survivors or their attorneys so far? >> i think that a lot of folks that were involved in the mediation are athletes themselves. you want to talk about endurance of athletes, there are attorneys also in this case, so there is a wonderful sense of accomplishment getting to this point. i also think it's so sad that it's come to this, right? i've been reporting on this for years and the loss of the scale is not lost on me. we're talking about hundreds of people tied to one case. i think people are wanting to move forward but money isn't what settlements are about. they're about wrongdoing and they're about signaling to institutions that there are legal and financial risks for not curbing abuse, and i think that message was very clearly sent here. >> $380 million. like we said, a huge, huge number. thank you so much for your perspective and reporting here as someone who has covered this for many years. appreciate it. meanwhile, back here in washington, the clock is ticking on the democrats' leaders for the settlement by christmas. in the last couple hours, we know sometime this afternoon, whether it's happened or has yet to happen, et cetera, he has said he will be talking to president biden about all of this. the president and the senator on the phone. here's joe manchin. >> we're going to talk about exactly what happened on friday with the cbo score and inflation reports and things of that sort, and i'd like to hear the president's first, where he's at and what his concerns may be. >> i want to bring in nbc's kelly o'donnell who is on the north lawn of the white house. kelly, we know the president and the senator have talked many times in the past. they've talked a lot about his agenda. what is the difference? is the difference now what the senator alluded to, the new inflation numbers that have come out? what is the expectation for this conversation? >> the expectation setting has been to keep things kind of low level. when we spoke to the press secretary today, she was saying this is an opportunity for them to have direct communication between the president and senator manchin, that there has been a lot of ongoing talk between senior levels of the white house and his office, so there probably aren't surprises about where each person stands. we asked the president today, we happened to be pooled today which you know well is our rotating duty to be up close and personal with the president in the oval office where he talked about this anticipated conversation with senator manchin. he was not showing his cards on this issue saying that he's talked about these kinds of issues with senator manchin before. he did not think that, for example, the events of recent days with the tornadoes would have an impact on the climate piece of the build back better agenda. he did not think that would be a tipping point for pope for joe . a question was posed to him in that form and that he just wants to talk to him about this. why is this so critical? it is imperative for the president's agenda. it has already passed the house. 49 other democrats have signed on support it. joe machlkin is a man alone between the president and his agenda. waiting, of course the vice president to serve as the die breaker in the senate, if you could get all 50 democrats to support this and put it into motion. so some of the questions joe manchin has been signaling is that he wants significant changes. that upends the time line of getting this done before christmas when we are halfway through december. perhaps we will learn what kinds of changes senator manchin would want. that would start changes to the house passage of this. that's a thorny issue. and really whether there is a way through all of this. the two joes of washington are the brokest, the white house and the unusually large-sized influence from washington. california governor gavin newsom wants a new law in his state styled after what texas is doing in its state with the restrictive abortion law we have been talking about. this is not about abortion access but the sale of assault rifles. here's the back story. 28 states are looking at cutting back on abortion access after the supreme court let the abortion law stay in place. i allows private since not federal officials to enforce it. gavin says, hey, since that is a loud, you can let citizens enforce the law, he wants to use the same legal framework, the same loophole, to ban the sale of assault rifles, letting private citizens sue makers of sul weapons in california. i want to bring in staff writer liam dillon. grad good to have you on. >> thank you for having me. >> tell me more about what else the governor is saying about this, and the chances it will actually happen. >> sure, saturday night the governor issued a press release saying he wanted to basically do the same thing that texas did, almost a poke in the eye, right, based on what the security has allowed at least so far to give private citizens the opportunity to, i guess, enforce the law, and then evade federal court review. in case case what he is looking to do in california, which is well-known for being an anti-gun state, trying to deter the manufacture and sale of assault rifles by allowing private citizens to sue anyone who manufactures or sells them. and in that way, the hope is that there will be mirroring the law or mirroring a process that the supreme court is now in the process of blessing. >> you have got think already going to be legal battles. >> right. >> the legislature said that, too, if he does pass these proposals. what could ultimately come into play. couldn't it end up in front of the supreme court? >> i think the governor and others are counting on that. they will say, look, the supreme court has blessed this process once before, is currently in the process of addressing it now as relates to abortion and therefore they have to bless it as it comes to assault rifles. some have referenced that very point. chief justice john roberts said, look, if you allow this texas law to go forward in this way other states may do other things as it relates to gunser other issues. this is almost going to be taste of that. some of the legal experts i have spoken with said given the supreme court's sort of increasing anti-abortion and pro-gun rights stance they would not be surprised if the supreme court would figure out a way to distinguish these two issues. but the governor is trying to get them to show their cards. >> thank you. breaking news just in. fired minipolice officer derek chauvin who was convicted of the murder of george floyd, he now plans to plead guilty to violating floyd's civil rights. this is new. i want to bring in danny. i believe chauvin pleaded not guilty to this. right? we have learned this afternoon he is intending to change his plea. or he has changed had plea? what's going on here? >> yeah. it seems chauvin is no longer going to contest at least the federal case that is pending against him. that is, we haven't been following as much as the state court case mostly because you don't get cameras in federal court. but a change of plea -- whenever a defendant enters or files for a change of plea it meansese going to come back into the courtroom and take back in all likelihood his original not guilty plea and swap it with the a guilty plea. >> why? what would be the reasoning for somebody to do this? i know you are obviously not his attorney or in his head. but what is the thinking here based on your sort of professional opinion? >> there are many reasons why you would enter a change of plea. one could be that you reached some kind of negotiated deal. i don't see any indication of that. but it's very possible that that happened. sometimes you may just not want to fight anymore and you want to plead straight up to the indictment. even if there is not an offer you are still going to get bonus points in the federal stentsing scheme for pleading state up to the dime, accepting responsibility, and possibly minimizing your sentence that way, even if the government doesn't offer any deal. and it could be something as simple as perhaps chauvin is running out of money to fund his defense and this is the kind of thing that would put pressure on someone to eventually enter a guilty plea. although, of course, you cannot enter a guilty plea unless you are actually guilty and believe you are guilty of the crimes. that's what the cole q3 in court will be, the judge making sure he is factly agreeing with the counts against him. this has been a lot of breaking news this hour on hallie jackson reports. you are find us on twitter for highlights of our reporting. in an hour i hope to see you over on our streaming side, nbc news now. 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