Transcripts For MSNBC The Cross Connection With Tiffany Cros

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"the cross connection with tiffany cross" begins right now. all right. good morning, everybody. welcome to "the cross connection." lots of breaking news. we begin this morning with that catastrophic series of tornadoes that touched down overnight in six states, spanning nearly 1,000 miles in the midwest and the south. now, kentucky officials fear that 50 or more people could be dead as rescue workers and residents begin digging through the wreckage. now, so far at least five people are confirmed dead throughout the region. not far from st. louis, officials say multiple people were killed when an amazon facility in edwardsville, illinois, partially collapsed. in one person, one person is confirmed dead and others seriously injured after a tornado hit a nursing home. white house press secretary jen psaki said president biden has been briefed on the storms and we'll bring you the latest with reports en route and a press conference from kentucky governor andy beshear expected in the next hour. right now i do want to bring in nbc meteorologist bill karins for the latest. i know it's been quite a busy morning for you. i'm baffled that there were 30 tornadoes that hit six different states. 30 tornadoes touching down, is that normal? >> it's normal for maybe spring, summer, maybe october to november. but for december, very rare, two weeks before christmas, to have a tornado outbreak like this, especially as far north as it is. it's not like we're talking south texas or louisiana, coastal alabama, mississippi. they were all the way up into kentucky with some of the worst damage from this storm. so this is what happened last night. we knew going into yesterday we had the chance for significant tornadoes. that was not a surprise. we even had the warning from the storm prediction center say a possibility of a few strong tornadoes. well, unfortunately, that happened. so when you get strong tornadoes, it's a matter if they hit something or they don't. unfortunately last night we know that many areas were hit, and we do know that we had at least one tornado on the ground for a very long period of time. i was tracking this last night from about, say, 7:00 p.m. to almost 1:00 a.m. we were focusing mostly on this one tornado, one town after another, saying get to your shelters, it's an emergency. and then we found out this morning that mayfield, kentucky, one of the areas we knew was hit extremely hard. when this tornado went over mayfield, it sucked debris from the town up to about 20,000 to 30,000 feet in the air where jets fly. we don't see it that often on radar like that. just put a pit in your stomach and you knew it was going to be bad. and the pictures we're seeing this morning, you're looking at the candle factory here. i've seen numerous pictures of the downtown area, and a lot of the town is destroyed. about 10,000 people call it home. there's going to be thousands of people that just don't have anywhere to live. we had 32 tornadoes reported in all. we had a few that were outside of st. louis. i want to focus on the one that hit the mayfield area. they did go under a tornado warning 25 minutes before the storm hit. and then it was escalated to a tornado emergency. tornado emergencies started happening in the last couple years. it's when we know for a fact we have a large tornado on the ground about to go through a town. and that was issued at 9:27. that was issued only three minutes before it hit mayfield. but regardless, the tornado warning, which should have told people to get to their shelters, people had a 25-minute lead time. so they had plenty of time. but when you have a tornado this strong, sometimes it just doesn't matter. here's the map that's just really incredible. with this one storm, the first warning went out at 5:50 p.m. the storm then traveled over southern missouri, through tennessee, and then into kentucky. the final warning was at 12:20 a.m. that 6 1/2 hours in 250 miles. we don't know if the tornado was on the ground the entire time or not. we'll get the storm surveys in the day ahead, but this was a historic tornado outbreak and this will likely be one of our top ten deadliest tornado days yesterday we had in our country's history. this is not your ordinary tornado outbreak, and this is not your ordinary event for the middle of december. this is historic and it's changed thousands of people's lives. >> around the holidays especially. especially around christmastime. bill, i'm glad you brought up mayfield, kentucky, because we'll be joined by a city council person next. you're saying this is normal, perhaps, for springtime. so why do you think this happened in december just weeks away from the holiday? you also talked about how long the tornado lasted. i don't think i have an idea of what's normal, what's a normal amount of time for a tornado to last. >> most tornadoes are on the ground for a quarter mile to half mile. occasionally we get a few on the ground five to ten miles. it's rare to get what we call a long-track tornado to exceed 50 miles. i have to look it up, but i believe the u.s. record is somewhere around 210 miles that any single tornado was on the ground. we don't know if it lifted and came back down or if it regenerated, but we know it's possible this one could challenge the all-time record. and yes, the middle of december, it's very unusual to have tornadoes this far to the north. typically we have snow cover on the ground in areas of the ohio valley, but we had a very warm fall and an extremely warm start to december. we had a warm air mass in place yesterday. so even though the calendar says december, the weather pattern has been more like late october or number of. that's the reason we got it. we have to get through the emergency first, but then we can get into the whole climate change we're warming up our planet and the lower 48. just wait till next week. we'll have a record-breaking heat wave and we'll see the hottest temperatures ever reported in december. yes, that's a bigger picture. right now they're just trying to save the lives and rescue the people. everything was turned upside down last night. >> just before i let you go, bill, you're saying next week there will be record heat waves. could we potentially see more tornadoes like this? >> the odds of anything like this are very, very, very very slim. this is a once in a couple year event we get a tornado outbreak like this, period. we have new pictures in. just getting restoration to power and people in homes. people are going to need hotel rooms, fema trailers. a lot of people's lives -- they're not going to be able to return to their homes. obviously with the holidays, it's just misery on top of misery. and the fact it's december, it's eventually going to get cold. trying to repair and rebuild in the middle of winter, there's a lot of layers to this that makes this extremely difficult for everyone affected. >> all right. well, don't go far, bill. i'm sure we'll be coming back to you this hour. our meteorologist bill karins brought up mayfield, kentucky. this was hit the hardest. i want to bring many city council member barry mcdonald who was there when the tornado struck down. councilman, thank you so much for joining us. i'm so terribly sorry for the devastation you're dealing with this morning. my first question is, how are you? are you okay? >> yes, ma'am, doing fine. talked to friends throughout the community. they're all safe. it's just devastating. >> and so, this candle factory, we saw some footage all morning. msnbc has been playing the audio of a woman who was stuck inside the candle factory. thankfully she's okay now. she was on with my colleague, ali velshi last hour. there were 110 people inside that candle factory when the tornado struck down. i know the rescue workers are pulling some people out. any update on what's happening with those folks now? >> i think those rescue efforts are continuing. i don't think they have a good count yet on the number of fatalities there. last word i have from a half hour ago. it's horrible -- people at work, late afternoon, early evening shift. i'm sure they felt comfortable in that facility. it's just devastating to our community. >> absolutely it's devastate. the kentucky governor will have a press conference. i'm certain he'll give us an update on what's happening in that cadged factory coming up at 11:00 a.m. on msnbc. councilman, what about people in residential areas? have you been in touch with any of your constituents? any idea on folks outside the candle factory? we're looking at the images, and i have to tell you, it looks apocalyptic. outside of your immediate friends and family, any update on the people in mayfield? >> yes. my wife and i were out last night checking some of the buildings. i helped take care of the downtown area. i just waited till daylight this morning. there's about a mile-wide path through downtown. the north side becomes an older residential area that i think several homes and mixed businesses are damaged. but the downtown churches, three of the four downtown churches, which are all older churches built in the early 1900s are just demolished, three of the four. you look at the post office, an old hospital, which has been converted to apartments, it's just -- the whole downtown community is destroyed. >> we're showing on our screens right now some of the wreckage. i mean, looking at it, i think it's going to be weeks before there's a final account on all the folks who may have been in some of those buildings. i thank you for taking the time to join us. bless you and your family, i hope you're okay and we'll definitely be in touch to make sure everything is okay there in mayfield as this story develops. i want to turn to msnbc reporter stephanie stanton who's been keeping us abreast all morning of what's happening. stephanie, this is so devastating to see these families going through this. at any time this is hard, but especially around the holidays just a few weeks shy of christmas. do you have any idea how much of a warning people got before the tornadoes actually struck? >> reporter: well, you know, it's interesting, and we were talking this in the last couple hours with ali velshi. he was talking to bill about some of the warning systems that are in place. and i know that -- it was my understanding they had some warning, although it is unclear at this point exactly how much warning they had, possibly 15 minutes. but nevertheless, warning or not, when you look at the scope of this devastation and this damage, this tornado ripping through miles and miles, multiple states, this is so unprecedented, tiffany, and so unheard of, especially for this time of year. we usually see tornadoes in spring, that i think everyone is just really stunned, dumfounded. everyone is trying to wrap their heads around what exactly happened here and how this happened. and query now just starting to see images come across, video of the level of devastation that these people will be dealing with not only for days, but weeks and possibly months. and so we are waiting for continuous updates from officials. i've been monitoring social media. i know we were talking about mayfield, kentucky, but there are other flash points within this story, places that have seen pretty serious damage. one of them is edwardsville, illinois. this is 30 minutes outside of st. louis to the east at that amazon warehouse. that warehouse was built in 2016. we know people were working inside. we're waiting for an update on exactly how many people. we heard potentially one fatality so far. officials said that is expected to grow. and they are combing through that rubble right now, through that aftermath and the mangled metal because we saw a huge portion of that building was essentially ripped off. the roof was gone. so that is a very sad situation there. we did also receive a statement from amazon. i want to put that on your screen and read you part of that statement saying our thoughts, prayers, and deepest sympathies are with the victims, their loved ones, and everyone impacted. this is a devastating tragedy for our amazon family and our focus is on supporting our employees and partners. you have edwardsville, illinois, that is one place that has seen a lot of damage within that amazon facility. of course you talked about what they're seeing in mayfield, kentucky. i was also looking at social media, tiffany, and people couldn't believe their town was essentially gone. this is what we're going to see as we continue to see these images come across. we see the helicopters and the drone footage. you will see a few houses. you'll see houses that were not really badly damaged, some of them full standing. and then you will see several houses in a row just completely reduced to rubble. and so we don't know the status of a lot of the residents. we're still trying to sort through it all. i've been watching all morning from here as we await our correspondence on the ground there. we'll keep an eye on things and bring you updates as we have them. >> thank you so much, stephanie. i want to remind our viewers that the kentucky governor beshear will be having a press conference at 11:00 a.m. eastern time and we'll bring that live to you. stay with us as we continue to bring you breaking news on this deadly tornado. we'll be right back. there is noe like wayfair. i never thought i'd buy a pink velvet sofa, but when i saw it, i was like 'ah'. and then i sat on it, and i was like 'ooh'. ooh! stylish and napable. okay now. i can relate to this one. i'm a working mom with three boys. 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i'm not on a plane. the lights went out and we did a little rock, rock, boom. and everything just came down on us. and i was trapped. the water fountain was in between my legs, and they had me pinned down. and then coworkers were pinned up against me and there were people at my feet too. and i found out later that when i was trying to get, y'all get this up, get this up, and my coworker said, i can't, because there's an air conditioner behind the water fountain. you know how heavy an air kern is for a factory. we were trying to stay calm. we had our bouts with panic, but then from there people started to -- and i keep saying this because i want people to understand. there were people from jail, graves county jail that worked there. they allowed them to work there. i remember there was one inmate in particular, he was digging. and he was breaking the dry wall. and he was trying to get people out. and then they had opened it up enough so that they were able to get my coworker who was wedged next to me, they pulled her out. and then they pulled one of the line leaders out and they were able to pull one of my supervisors out. and i was scared because of where i was and because when the search and rescue people came, if you could just get this off of me where i can move my leg, i'll be okay, i can stay down here, but my leg. and he says, ma'am, there's about five feet of debris on you. and at that point i didn't think that i was going to make it. i didn't think they were going to be able to get me. i thought them moving around all this stuff was going to cause to everything fall on me. but there was -- i don't know if it was nate or gary, but it was one of them. thank you if y'all are watching, thank you. he came down there, both of them held my hand, talked me through it, they pulled and pushed me up. i had blood pressure down there for over two hours. i was in this awkward position and my foot was numb. i couldn't feel it. we finally got my left foot straighten up, but my right leg was still bent in that awkward position. and it was numb and hurting. and so they started pulling me up. the entire time i was there, i got on my phone and called my mom. one of my friends called me because he told me not to go to work anyway because there was a storm coming. so i went. so he called me, like, literally right when it happened and he says, see, i know you sorry you went to work. and i'm like i started screaming i'm stuck, we're trapped. and he was like, oh, my god. i called 911 and they said we're trying. when they told me all the damage was done, i said they're not going to get to me. so i said let me go live. i know social media will get word out there. i wanted more people to know that we were stuck because i was afraid they didn't know that we were stuck and if they didn't know, they wouldn't come save us. once i went live, i guess people started finding out. people were calling. and then, you know, people were there. and i didn't know, i didn't realize -- i had a watch on too, i never even looked at the time. so they started getting everybody up. once everybody was out, i was able to scooch around and get up. i was so scared because it was a narrow spot. y'all, i'm too big. my butt is too big, how am i going to get out of here? it's either nate or gary, one was at the bottom, one was at the top. one was literally pushing me up to get up because my right leg was completely asleep and i couldn't move it. it just wouldn't do anything i told it to do. so i was able to get up. i got up to the top. when i see that air, even though it was darks it was the best thing i had ever seen in my life. we were walking on beams. that five feet of debris that was on me, that's what i had to climb up to get out. i had to walk across it. there were beams and there was somebody at every step that i went -- somebody said step here, step there. once i came down, then it was a woman, colleen, she walked me to the trailer. i'm soaking wet. first of all, i was underneath a water fountain, so it spilled on me. now i'm in the rain as well. so i'm soaking wet. one of my friends who works there as well, he was outside in a van. i was so scared and i kept calling his phone and he didn't answer. i just thought the tornado had took him and threw him somewhere. finally he called me back. and so my other coworkers, they were calling and we were talking and we all met up. you know, hugs and everything. but then people kept coming up to me and asking me about different people's names. our cars -- if you look -- my car is somewhere in there. you see the cars. it looks like someone poured out a tub of hot wheel cars. that's how the cars are from the parking lot. i don't have a car, so i had to call my neighbor, my lovely neighbor. she came and brought two of my daughters, my older two children. she brought them to come and get me. and i came on home. as i started taking off my clothes, there was dry wall everywhere falling out of -- i wear hoodies to work because i usually get cold. all in my hoodie and the little pocket, the pouch, dry wall everywhere. i sat on my bed for a second. dry wall, all on the bask my clothes. but i don't care because i'm here and i'm grateful and i'm thankful. >> queen kiana, that was quite a testimony that you just offered. i'm grateful that you're still okay. what about your home, your children? i know two of your oldest daughters are with you. is your neighborhood and house, everything okay there? >> i don't live in mayfield. i actually live in paducah, 45 minutes outside of mayfield. so my children were fine. they were just worried about me. and my, where i live, my place, it's fine. i found out they did have them all go to the hospital for shelter for a while. but other than that, everybody's okay. my kids, my neighbor's brother kept them when everybody came to get me. and i haven't even seen my boys. they were asleep. they weren't paying me no attention. >> well, we are so happy you're okay. one of the things you said that was very striking reminds us of the humanity of incarcerated individuals who were there. i assume, providing free labor, and whose instinct was to dig and free other people. what was the gentleman's name that you said immediately began to dig. >> i don't know his name. i don't know his name at all. i just know he's been there all this week and he's always smiling. he's a hispanic gentleman and he's always smiling and he just wants to work. they're happy to be out of jail, of course, but i'm grateful. if it had been me, i would have been running for my freedom not trying to help anyone. they were working hard. they were working hard and i'm grateful for all the people that came out to help us. >> absolutely. i'm grateful for the people who came out to help you and i'm grateful you're okay on this 40th birthday for you. we don't know his name, so for now we'll refer to him as an angel, because he helped to get to you safety and other folks. kiana, i'm so glad you're okay. happy birthday to you. i hope you're able to somehow enjoy this day and celebrate the fact that you are alive and here. we will continue to pray for all the people who were devastated by this. so thank you, kiana parsons perez for joining us this morning. we'll continue to bring you the latest breaking news on the deadly tornadoes. but for now, we met to turn to the supreme court where in a 5-4 ruling on friday, this radical conservative court decided to let the state's controversial six-week abortion ban stay in place while the law is challenged in court. this is texas i'm referring to, of course. this leaves millions of texans, most of them poor, without access to abortion care in the coming months. meanwhile, radical republicans on capitol hill are doubling down on their culture war clown show and voting to promote death and disease by attempting to repeal the president's federal vaccine mandate. i don't know how we begin to make sense of all of this, but here to reflect our confusion and outrage is the amazing democratic massachusetts congresswoman ayanna pressley. congresswoman, so happy to have you with us this morning. thanks for bearing with us. a lot of breaking news this morning. but i'm very glad to have you on. i'm really concerned about our democracy. we're back -- bookended. donald trump's appointees are eroded rights. and people brag about not being vaccinated. walk us through this and make it make sense if you can. >> what i'll offer is that congress has to lead in this moment. that's right, there's extremism and imbalance. we need to expand the courts, but that's a conversation for another day. these courts have proven time and time again that they're not on the side of the people. in fact, they're against the elephant people. this is settled law. a majority of americans don't want to see roe v. wade overturned. abortion care is health care. this is a constitutional right, and the supreme court should have just struck that ruling down. and so if they're not going to act in alignment with the will of the people and affirm that health care is a constitutional right, and abortion care is health care, then congress must stand in the gap. my bill with representative judy chu, the women's health protection act passed the house. the senate needs to take that up quickly and we need to get that to the president's desk for signature. and that would codify roe v. wade and ban the introduction of harmful, draconian, discriminatory laws like this, what we've seen in texas and mississippi and upper right-hand side and ensure access to abortion. when we have these bans, it doesn't mean people stop having abortions. it means they stop doing it safely and legally. this is quite literally a matter of life and death. >> yeah. speaking of life and death, for these hypocrites who are your colleagues who call themselves the misnomer of being pro-life while they promote violence and put some of your colleagues, congresswoman ilhan omar, in danger. this week you joined your colleagues in a call to have congresswoman boebert removed from her committees. i have to tell you, i think that's a great move. however, is that the harshest move that congress can give boebert given her comments? she ran been being able to carry a gun in the united states capitol. is that the harshest thing congress can do to this woman? >> well, i think the point here, tiffany, is words have consequences. boebert trafficking hate, perpetuating islamophobia, calling a colleague a suicide bomber has consequences for her and her family. hundreds end up a letter to democratic leadership, speaking to their own vulnerability and fear of that of their families and their communities. so those words have had consequences, boebert's hate words. hate speech leads to hate violence. if her words had consequences for rep omar, muslim staff, and the muslim community writ large, they are watching. so there must be consequences for rep boebert and accountability, otherwise we embolden the trafficking of hate. i wouldn't not discredit the impact of that, tiffany, because, you know, that is where so much of your power comes from being a member of congress. but the point is we need to send a strong and strident message by stripping rep boebert of her committees, that this is unacceptable. it's unconscionable. it is dangerous, and we will not stand for it. and again, the muslim community writ large, the world is watching. congress needs to take this resolution up quickly for a vote. >> yeah, and i certainly don't want to discredit it, congresswoman, i consider if i made those threats to my colleagues, i would be fired. and so, you know, there is no safety net. >> that's okay. >> yeah. >> this is the workplace. if this was happening in any other workplace, you know, so it's not or, it's and. but we should start there. >> absolutely. they're telling me i'm way over time, but i want to get in a quick question because you have this new bill. there was an incarcerated individual who was helping to free people trapped in that candle warehouse in mayfield, kentucky. you have a new bill, the fixed clemency act, we're way over time, but you did introduce this bill. in ten seconds, if you could tell us about it before we have to let you go. >> mass incarceration is a crisis disproportionately suffered by communities of color. it's a policy and moral flurry. we need to address this crisis. we need to dismantle mass incarceration. we need to decrease the prison population. clemency, compassionate release is a powerful tool the president has. it will decrease prison population. but the current system is inefficient. our fixed clemency act will make the process by taking it out of the department of justice. it will create an independent review board and make the process fair, efficient, and transparent so that people can get on a pathway to redemption and justice, tiffany. that backlog right now is 50,000 applications long behind every application is an individual and a family. we need to do something about that. their lives are hanging in the balance. >> i just want to say i think congress is made better having you in it. i wanted to get into voting rights and build back better, so that means you'll have to come back on the show. >> the air waves are made better by you. happy show--versary, tiffany. so glad you're here. >> you were with me one year ago today when this show launched, so it's an honor and pleasure to have you back with me this morning. thank you "f" for the work that you do. you'll have to come back very soon. thank you so much to congresswoman pressley for joining us. coming up for you at home, we'll have the latest breaking news on this deadly string of tornadoes that swept through several states overnights, including that press conference by the governor of kentucky, one of the hardest-hit states. so you don't want to miss it. stay with us. with relapsing forms of ms... there's a lot to deal with. not just unpredictable relapses. all these other things too. it can all add up. kesimpta is a once-monthly at-home injection... that may help you put these rms challenges in their place. kesimpta was proven superior at reducing the rate of relapses, active lesions, and slowing disability progression vs aubagio. don't take kesimpta if you have hepatitis b, and tell your doctor if you have had it, as it could come back. kesimpta can cause serious side effects, including infections. while no cases of pml were reported in rms clinical trials, it could happen. tell your doctor if you had or plan to have vaccines, or if you are or plan to become pregnant. kesimpta may cause a decrease in some types of antibodies. the most common side effects are upper respiratory tract infection, headache, and injection reactions. ready for an at-home treatment with dramatic results? 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>> congratulations to you. i'm the 60th mayor of atlanta, and you just mention two of my good friends, stacey abrams and raphael warnock. both of them will be on the ballot in november of '22. i'll tell you, just a week and a half ago we saw the negative effects of sb 202. that's the voter suppression bill that came out of the state. even in a municipal election for makers we saw the problems that persisted related to provisional ballots and absentee and mail-in ballot issues. these problems had folks that had to mail in an application with their i.d. to then get a ballot back and then send that ballot back with their i.d. you can imagine how difficult that was for seniors and individuals that didn't have access to printers, et cetera. it played in our election and made it where we had less than a 20% turnout in the municipal election. imagine how that's going to play out in the larger elections for governor and senate. so what we're going to have to do is do what atlanta does well. they influence everything and we're going to have to really push to educate our voters and to get them turned out so they can vote. >> yeah. i know all about it. i left the swats 20 years ago for the nation's capitol. proud to represent here on the set. let me ask, because atlanta is dealing with spikes in crime. the city is changing in great ways in some aspects and in adverse ways in others. you're in a challenging position here because you had the upcoming trial for rayshard brooks, the two students tased during the george floyd protest, the spike in crime. you'll have to navigate this as there's increased spotlight on the adverse impacts of policing, particularly when it comes to black folks. how do you plan on walking that line, making people feel safe, and also making sure people do not feel like they have a license to abuse authority? >> absolutely, tiffany. this is a delicate balance, a tough time to go into office. but, you know, this is where all of my experience is leading up to this point will come to bear. being an atlantan, i was born and raised in southwest atlanta and being a black man that grew up in that area, i understand very well the challenges of crime and also of policing. and so what i came up with is a balanced approach to safety and justice, one that's to be smart on crime. and it does require training and retraining of officers and some changes in our standard operating procedures. as it relates to rayshard brooks, that was an incident that did not have to happen. some changes that can be made is how we de-escalate issues, but also just change up what officers are actually required to respond to, things related to behavioral health, mental challenges, homelessness, we may not need police officers to be the proper response to that. we can have domestic crisis intervention or service workers to be able to deal with those issues to get people the proper care that they need. and so in an incident like rayshard brooks are individuals are unarmed and they're ending up being killed or hurt, you know, these type of scenarios can be avoided with more training and standard operating procedures. i also still believe in due process for citizens, due process for officers. that's why my safe streets plan is a balanced approach to safety and justice, one that requires us to have community-based policing so that we can get down this violent crime wave, but also make sure the citizens of atlanta see their policing as a part of the community and not a separate organization that has an issue with them. >> all right. well, we are way over time, but we'll have to have you back again really soon. for now, just two atl-ens and a cadillac. we'll have to come down there soon and do this in person. coming up, we're keeping tabs on that deadly wave of tornadoes that ripped through several states. stay with us as we bring you the latest. right, i think we're going, actually -- we're going to bring in another guest. i'm sorry. okay, i'm sorry. lots of breaking news. my control room is telling me we're going on a commercial break. we'll see you on the other side of the break. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list event. ♪ my songs know what you did in the dark ♪ ♪ so light 'em up, up, up light 'em up, up, up ♪ ♪ light 'em up, up, up ♪ ♪ i'm on fire ♪ ♪ so light 'em up, up, up light 'em... ♪ we're making the fagioli! ♪ i'm on fire ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ this looks great. awesome. alright. thank you! what... what recipe did you use? 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[music: sung by craig robinson] ♪ i'm a ganiac, ganiac, check my drawers ♪neighbors” season, [sfx: sniffs] ♪ and my clothes smell so much fresher than before ♪ try gain flings and you'll be a gainiac too! the only detergent with oxiboost and febreze. i saw it on radar, it wasn't looking like it was as large as it really was after it passed my truck. that was something that it -- when i rolled my window down, you could feel the pressure just drop as it was sucking every -- that tornado was sucking everything it could off the ground. i don't know, i don't even like looking outside my truck as it's getting light because the -- there's nothing left. >> all right, good morning, everybody, and welcome back to "the cross connection." we're still awaiting that press conference from kentucky governor andy beshear with the latest information on the devastating set of tornados that ripped through at least six states spanning 1,000 miles in the south and the midwest. 50 people are feared dead in kentucky alone. kentucky was of course the hardest hit and at least 32 tornados are believed to have touched down overnight in arkansas, illinois, kentucky, missouri, mississippi, and tennessee. again, with kentucky being the hardest hit of those states. president biden is calling it an unimaginable tragedy and says the white house is working with the governors of those states as they search for survivors. governor beshear says at least four tornados hit kentucky including one which stayed on the ground for 200 miles, and more than a half million people have been left without power. in edwardsville, illinois, outside of st. louis a search and rescue operation is underway at an amazon warehouse where a wall partially collapsed. officials are reporting multiple deaths at that scene. nbc news meteorologist bill karins is back with the latest. bill. >> yeah, just still seeing incredible pictures, especially from you and on social media of just what used to be in some areas. in some cases we're watching you see a slab of concrete and then in the distance on the edge of the property you see the trees with what was left of the house in them, and that's when you know you've just dealt with an incredibly powerful storm, and i don't know, it's going to take a while to even figure out who's missing from these homes. >> right. >> i wouldn't be surprised if the death toll numbers go up not just during the day today but sunday, maybe even into monday because it's going to take that long to figure out who was where and what was supposed to be where. so let me just give you the overview first. this was a well-advertised storm. we knew we were going to get some tornados. did we know it was going to be this bad? you never hope so, at least we knew there was the possibility of strong tornados. we had 32 tornado reports. there were a bunch around the st. louis area, a couple in arkansas. we know the nursing home was hit there, two people died in that nursing home. there was like 40 beds that were occupied that was already bad. it could have been worse, and then that storm tracked all the way through southern missouri, tennessee, kentucky. it went through four states and that one was the one that did all the damage in mayfield, so that one lone storm, so that thunderstorm produced the tornado and tornado warnings for roughly 250 miles through four states. the first warning was at 5:50 p.m. the final warning was just after midnight, and all along that path we had tornado emergencies that were issued for numerous towns. there were eight in all that were under tornado emergencies. we know that mayfield was one of those that was under the emergency that was hit the hardest. so the people in mayfield, they knew going into the day first off potential of tornados. they went under a tornado watch about three hours before the tornado hit. they went under an official tornado warning, that's when the sirens go off, that's when your cell phone starts beeping and buzzing, that was 25 minutes before it hit, and then because they knew that this was on the ground, this was a huge tornado, storm chasers said it was on its way in, called a tornado emergency for mayfield, three minutes before it struck the town. so they had warning. i mean, there's not much else, you know, the national weather service or officials could have done, you know, if people were paying attention they should have been getting to their safety and their structures. but sometimes it just doesn't matter because if it is so strong and so intense, even if you're in your safe room unless it's like, you know, underground, you may not survive it. so this is the enhanced fujita scale. just like hurricanes, we have a rating for how intense they are from ef 0 being minor damage. that's one that maybe would knock some branches down, knock some shingles off your roof all the way to an ef-4 and ef-5. extreme damage, devastating damage. those are very rare storms we haven't had any 5s in three years. these strongest tornados are the ones that kill the most people. they're also the ones that will just wipe the house off the concrete slab foundation s. this is one of the stats that we don't want to get on this list. i do think there is the potential, especially when you see how bad mayfield is and some of these other small towns in kentucky. these are the top five deadliest tornado days in our country's history. to make the list you have to get above 150. i hope we don't, but there is definitely the possibility that this storm could end up being on this list. it was that intense and it was on the ground for that long at night. >> bill, i got to interrupt you, we're going to go live to the press conference where governor beshear is updating what happened. >> this has been the most devastating tornado event in our state's history, and for those that have seen it, what it's done here in grace county and elsewhere, it is indescribable. the level of devastation is unlike anything i have ever seen. you see parts of industrial buildings roofs or sidings in trees, if trees are lucky enough to stand. huge metal poles bent in half if not broken. buildings that are no longer there. huge trucks that have been picked up and thrown, and, sadly, far too many homes that people were likely in entirely devastated. this will be, i believe, the deadliest tornado system to ever run through kentucky. you know, earlier this morning at about 5:00 a.m., we were pretty sure that we would have -- we would lose over 50 kentuckians, i'm now certain that number is north of 70. it may, in fact, end up exceeding 100 before the day is done. the damage is even worse now that we have first light. a couple places have been hit incredibly hard, certainly mayfield here in grace county, but everywhere along the line of this tornado, it touchdown down and stayed down for 227 miles over 200 in kentucky, has been severely and significantly impacted. i've been on the phone with now nearly every county judge in areas that have been impacted. we have pledged our full support. i have talked to the secretary of homeland security while i have been here. he has pledged his full support, and we are hearing that from every part of the federal administration and from our u.s. senators and from our congressmen. kentucky is united today behind the people of western kentucky who want to be here to help dig out, to help make rescues, to help provide when people are suffering, and then to help rebuild. this is not a one-day thing. this is one state, and we will stand united to make sure that we can lift our families back up. please know that there are a lot of families that need your prayers, prayers that somebody may be found or prayers to help them through the grieving process. dawson springs up the road hit incredibly hard. that's where i'll be headed next. i want to call on a number of people today to give you an idea of different things that we are doing. i can tell you that the state of emergency was put into place last night before midnight, the national guard is deployed and will be in communities very shortly, and that is now going to be augmented. we need more individuals in the field. we're going to hear from our general in a minute. first i want to turn it over to jesse, the county judge here who has been working really hard, and then we'll hear from the mayor, and then we'll move to emergency management, national guard. we'll hear from the transportation cabinet and what they're doing, state police and others. judge. >> thank you, governor. this is probably the toughest day of my life right here. when you -- when you run for office, you don't know what to expect, but when you see your communities in your county in this kind of situation, it's tough. it's tough on our communities. it's tough on our families. you know, last night i was with my family, and i was watching -- we were watching the storm, and we were watching noaa and trent with the weather, the local 6, and, you know, those folks did a really good job of informing of what was going to happen and -- but i had an eerie feeling about it. i can tell you that, i didn't really feel good about it. and as this thing was -- as the governor said for the 200 miles it was on the ground watching it head towards grace county, you know, that -- it was a reality at that time, so the only thing i can say to you all at this time, what we need from everyone is we need your prayers. we need your help, everyone, so many surrounding counties. judge climer is with us here, our adjoining county, our local officials right now, if you want to know where heroes are, they are out here in the trenches taking -- trying to find people. that's what they're doing right now, and they don't ask for nothing. they just want to resolve the situation and help somebody. there are people coming are from all over the country here right now. we are very blessed with what we're having with the help and the situation. our sheriff's department and i'm not going to start naming folks, our police department, our fire departments, our volunteer fire departments, our ems, our hospitals, our health departments so many are out there right now and they're going through. and you know what's -- we're all here, and right now there are still streets and roads that are blocked, people needing help, so i ask you prayer, prayer, prayer. please pray for these folks. they will need supplies. the governor's helping with his administration to help get supplies in here to graves county, but what i'm saying to you is if you just -- somebody might just need someone to talk to. right now mayfield high school, there's 50 people waiting to go somewhere. they have nowhere to go. they just need somebody to talk to, and we are in this warm room right now, so just realize that there are people still cold. the temperature's going to drop tonight, so we're going to be in a situation there. we have no water here in graves county. that affects a lot of the rural area in graves county. we're going to work through that with maple water and electric and a lot of our units. the power is out for several miles around the city. there again, i'm asking for each and every one of you to pray for our community. thank you. >> always ask about what's the best thing about mayfield and graves county, quickly my answer is the people, and what's happening today is exactly what we do best. we have been hit, our commonwealth has been hit. people we love have lost loved ones. our hearts are broken because the people that we work with, the people that we know, our families are hurting. i echo what judge perry has just said. i've heard from so many mayors across the commonwealth and people i went to high school with, college with, what can we do. what we need from people standing in this room and directing other people is just to pray for us, and we will be fine. it's going to take us a while, we will be fine. today we're going to focus on those who have lost so much, and that's where our hearts are with them who have lost the people they love and the property and the way they make a living. pray for us, stand with us, and we will come out stronger because of this. thank you. >> next we'll hear from director dosett from emergency management. we have an incredible team locally here augmented by the state. i've watched it all firsthand being in the emergency operations center since about 1:00 this morning, and hearing the reports but also the response come in in realtime. i believe within the hour or so we will have a federal disaster declaration. i've been assured that by the secretary of homeland security and folks at the white house. it's going to let us be reimbursed quicker. it's going to bring some additional resources here. we will see more resources coming into this area to respond to this disaster, i believe, than we've ever seen. director dawson. >> thank you, governor, and my first comments are to those families of those we have lost. my sincere -- my sincere hope for a speedy recovery. we'll be with you for weeks, months and years in this fight. already you've seen neighbors helping neighbors. that's what kentuckians do. thank you to the judge and the mayor. we're here with federal support and state support. as the governor indicated we have the kentucky transportation cabinet already on the ground, the national guard is here. the governor has spoken this morning with dee ann criswell, she is a fema administrator. already in progress on the highway is a fema team which will assist graves with the search and rescue out at the plant. we have a power assistance package coming, generators that can power up to a facility as large as a hospital. we have an imat team, these are incident management teams that organize the entire effort for weeks. we have an incident support team, which will come right here in graves county and assist in organizing the search and rescue efforts. i want to thank louisville jefferson county, metro ema came down, got on the road within two hours, and they brought assets and they're going to be staying for several days. and thank you most of all to all the first responders. you are the true heroes. you were out while the wind was still blowing and the thunderstorms were passing through, and the squall lines were here. so thank you for that. we're also looking at, as the governor indicated, we are asking fema for immediate reimbursement for category a and category b dangers. that will be an immediate process. we have teams are from kentucky emergency management. we're sending an int team down here as early as tomorrow. sot resources are flowing. we have water on the road. i know your water system was destroyed, including the tower. we also have just had a generous offer from walmart to start doing drop shipment of bottled water and we'll continue with that. we're here to help you and, again, any support that you need don't hesitate to call the state eoc through tracy. thank you. >> some outside the region, maybe even outside the state are already asking how they can help. we are working right now on setting up a direct fund. it's going to be, i believe, called the western kentucky tornado relief fund that we're going to be able to accept help into and direct it here in the ways that it's needed the most and to be able to be flexible with the leadership here. that is in process. but i hope everybody can see that this whole state, this whole state is with this area. you don't just have the head of all emergency management, we have the head of our kentucky national guard, which deploys at all of our largest emergencies. you see here to witness it firsthand, we're already staging operations in, what, about eight counties or close to it with requests still coming in. so general lamberton. >> thank you, governor, and just to share with everybody here at this junction literally as i speak and as the governor insinuated, we've got guardsmen from other communities that are en route to the graves county right now. these folks are coming to assist with everything from search and rescue and i've been able to speak with both the police chief and the fire chief as well, and we've identified some of the concerns as far as security needs as a result of the damage that's been done at this junction. so some of the guardsmen that we've got showing up who also will be coming in to address that. we've got representatives from our unit up in paducah, and he's serving quite simply as kind of a liaison right now to get kind of an on the ground assessment of what the needs are. he's leading those needs -- what that phone said -- >> that's this one. there we go. apparently all i had to do was pick it up. >> just wanted to be sure that you all are tracking what i was saying so it was redundant at this junction. but that the liaison i just mentioned so he's feeding back to his unit in paducah what some of the other situations pertinent where we the guard can assist with, and folks will be coming forward from his unit as well. we're tracking this in our joc, our joint operation center that's up in frankfort, they're working with the folks out of the eoc, the emergency operation center, to coordinate all the support coming to you and prioritize whether it's a civilian agency, an emergency support function or a national guard asset that serves the community here, and we'll maintain that a contact chief to be sure that we're addressing whatever you and your folks identify on the ground. thank you. >> i think as of this morning we deployed a little over 180 national guardsmen. we are increasing that number as more requests come in. also trying to use our armories in different areas like taylor county and others as a place of refuge for people. i know one of the big challenges is debris removal. i wanted us to be able to hear from the transportation cabinet that i know is working with so many folks here. i know -- i think we're going to hear -- we've got more than 50 people that are out there right here in the area, and i've said if there are any others, it's time to get them in their vehicle. >> thank you. governor, so just to give you a brief overview of the transportation cabinet here in district one, we covered the 12 westernmost counties, so as this storm passed across western kentucky it impacted five of our 12 counties, fulton, hickman, graves, marshal and lion counties, and so in those counties specifically we have our internal crews there out on all of our state routes as well as the county routes that intersect those state routes through the swath of the storm utilizing loaders, back hoes, track loaders, dozers, excavators chain saws and manpower. right here alone in the city of mayfield we have approximately 20 folks that are from other counties assisting our graves county crew and altogether in graves county we have about 40 folks helping assist with state routes, city routes. we've been in conjunction with the chief of police here, the public works director, the mayor, the state police coordinating our efforts on every route there is within the city of may field. in totality, we have approximately 170 employees across our district one that are out in some capacity addressing this particular storm, and again, we have every large piece of equipment that we have at our disposal in operation currently. >> thank you. chief, would you all like to offer anything additional? you're welcome to. i wanted to make sure we had an opportunity to hear directly from them. they've been doing this work through the night, and we'll hear from the state police, and we'll open up for questions. i do want to thank atf that is here, bringing in even more individuals to help out. we appreciate our federal partners. >> my name is jeremy ceo son, the fire chief and ems for the city of mayfield. just a quick update. first our priority one right now is the mcb candle factory. that's where the bulk of our assets are right now. still working through rescue and recovery operations. it is a -- it's a large facility that was devastated in this tornado, so it's going to be a long, a long, difficult job but we got -- we've got good crews out there. we've got a lot of help from across the state coming in. we're very thankful for that. as of right now, our ems volume has stabilized. we also have a lot of ems crews coming in from across the state. as of right now, 11 different counties have sent ambulance crews to mayfield to assist us. we're -- i can't say thank you enough for the help that we've received. everywhere from our neighbors counties to vanderbilt, kentucky board of ems has allocated, we hope, an additional eight ambulances from all over the state of kentucky to come in and assist us. we -- i want to thank air evac. they have not only conducted four scene flights of critical patients but they've also allocated staffing from other bases to come in and assist us on our ground operations. overnight we had four structure fires. very difficult to get to the fires. once we did with the help of our volunteer departments in the county, we were able to get each of those fires extinguished, so that threat is under control. we are -- we're dealing with some issues right now, station one, which is our main station in the hub of our department, it was -- we were in the direct line of the tornado yesterday, so that station is fully inoperable at this point. we had to extricate our own fire and ems apparatus from that building just so we could respond last night. so today, my next priority is going to be to find a new station and a temporary home for 45 firefighters in our apparatus. and -- but again, i just want to thank all the support that we've received across this room, across the state, the people that have called and just showed up to help, i can't say enough just at how honored i am at the love that we've been shown by our neighbors. so thank you. >> my name's nathan kent, the chief of police for the city of mayfield. our mission is fluid as it's gone through the night. and i think it will continue to change throughout the next couple of days. we've been blessed with some support from our sister law enforcement agencies. state police has been here from the beginning, the murray city police department and paducah police department set off a search early this morning and they're patrolling in the city to assist the mayfield police department. one of our biggest challenges in the days to come is going to be interoperability and communications. we've lost some of our assets here in the city, state police, communications branches assisting us with that and bringing radios that will allow all of our first responders to be able to communicate not only with the post but with one another. so we're anxious to get that component in place. in addition to the fire station, our police station was destroyed in the storm. the bulk of our fleet that was parked there has also been compromised. but we are making due. again, we are borrowing vehicular assets from other departments and have been very gracious to bring manpower, again, long before the sun came up this morning. the mayfield police department will begin 12-hour shifts later this evening. we've sent some of our people that had been out 24 hours to get some rest while these other departments were here to help us. beginning tonight, we'll provide 24-hour patrol again beginning this evening. the mayor and the judge executive, the county have spoken, and there's going to be a curfew put in place for this evening beginning at 7:00 p.m. the particulars of that will be that within the city limits and those parts of the county that have been directly affected by the path of the storm. so after dark we'll go dusk to dawn. if you're not an emergency responder, you need not be in any of those areas after dark. if you are, our law enforcement officers are going to investigate those circumstances, so we just ask for the public's support. we still are have much work to do in terms of foot searches within the city limits themselves to make sure that we've found everybody that needs assistance and needs help. that, i'm sure will go on not only today but beyond. so very grateful for the health that we've been given, very grateful for the governor's response and for the state's response. it would be overwhelming, i think, without knowing that we had those resources coming as well. so i don't want to step away without saying our first priority is with the families that have lost people. i'm just proud of the men and women that have stepped forward here to help those folks in need. >> last we'll hear from the kentucky state police working through the night in every region that have been impacted. one way i was getting my information in realtime, so it's -- >> trooper burgess. >> please. >> thank you, governor. >> the state police has been working very closely with all of our local agencies here to assist in any way we can. we are working to get communications working for all of our local agencies together. our primary focus right now is preserving as many lives as we can. we are asking that anybody who is not an emergency responder, if they are currently in a safe location to remain there and not enter into areas where we are working so that we can get the help to the people that need it as quickly as possible. we appreciate all the support from our local agencies that are here to help us from the surrounding counties and beyond, and again, we're just here to try and preserve as many lives as possible. >> thank you. all right. we'll open it up for questions, if you just start by who the question is for. we want to make sure the public is getting the very best information possible. >> all right, you've been listening to governor andy beshear recap what has happened in kentucky. according to the governor he believes the death toll could be between 70 and 100 people. however, he did talk about the big challenge is debris removal, which of course will reveal what exactly that death toll could be. there's damage in at least 17 counties according to the governor. they have been in touch with the department of homeland security, and of course fema. we understand that power is out for several miles. they have activated the national guard there in kentucky. the chief of police of mayfield, this is one of the counties that was hardest hit talked about their entire fleet of cars being destroyed. they've outsourced ambulances, we learned, from other states to assist. so it's really quite something to see a state's infrastructure destroyed. the federal government is assisting as much as possible at this time according to the authorities we just heard and court press secretary jen psaki that said that president biden has been briefed on this and is working with governors to see what they need. again, this tornado did not just hit kentucky. there were 32 tornados that hit arkansas, illinois, kentucky, tennessee, and missouri. so through the south and midwest. i'm joined again with nbc news meteorologist bill karins. he's back with us. bill, you just heard the press conference i did. as you heard, debris removal is a huge deal there. i can imagine, tell me what's the weather expected to be in kentucky today because if there are storms, that's going to greatly hinder these rescue efforts. >> first off, how was the fire chief so calm and collected? i mean, he said that they had to extricate themselves out of their firehouse. like, they couldn't even get their engines out, and then after their destroyed building they finally cleared out to go. they had four fires after the tornado passed and they had to then go put those fires out let alone all the search and rescue stuff that's been going on all night long, and the guy was like cool and collected as a cucumber. it was unbelievable what he's been through. he must be in shock. yeah, and from the governor, you know, he mentioned it's up to 70 fatalities, and he said likely by the end somewhere 90 to 100, the number could easily grow to. we quickly threw together this list from the help of our weather producers. this is the deadliest tornados in kentucky history. the deadliest before this storm was march 27th, you have to go all the way back to 1890 when 76 people were killed by a tornado. so we're already second on this list for the deadliest tornados ever in kentucky history. we should easily be number one unfortunately by the end of this day. the governor mentioned he's heading to other towns. it's not just mayfield, every little red icon shows you where a tornado was reported, most of these were strong tornados. i saw some pictures near bowling green of destruction, dawson springs where the governor said he's heading to next. that was one of the areas under that tornado emergency last night. i've been waiting to see how bad the pictures were. about 5,000 people live there. the wheels are in motion. all the damage is done. there's still people to be rescued. i'm sure there's people to be found. there's houses and properties that aren't in the same location that they were. the homes were destroyed, just a slab of concrete left behind. and that's kind of what we're dealing with at this point. it's just the historic nature of this. a fellow meteorologist said that 1950 there was an ef-5 tornado in southern illinois. we have had december powerful tornados, but what makes this event so rare and unprecedented is not only did we have an extremely strong tornado, we don't know yet ef-4, ef-5, but it was potentially on the ground for 250 miles. now, we don't know if that's continuous or not, if it was bouncing up and down or not, but a lot of it it was on the ground, so historic and sad just so many people need so much help with only two weeks to go before christmas. i know walmart just made a commitment. they're bringing in water and supplies and food for people. there's just residents that are going to need a lot of help in the days ahead. it's winter. it's a whole different dynamic than typically spring or summertime tornados. i mean, people need heat from their houses. they need shelters. they can't just live in your house without power. very difficult and extremely sad situation. >> it is very sad. you think about -- because i know you said there was warning that you knew that these tornados were coming. but you know, when you give these warnings to people, especially in some communities and you know, where are people expected to go. not everyone has a place that they can shelter, not everyone has reliable transportation to get to said place, so this is truly devastating and i definitely appreciate your point about power and the holidays and how cold it could get, and the heroism of our emergency responders who they themselves were impacted by these tornad and still were able to like you said, extricate themselves and 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joining me now is errin haines editor at large for the 19th and melanie campbell, my long-time friend, president of the national coalition on black civic participation and black women's round table. so happy to have you ladies with me. melanie, i want to go with you first. you were part of a meeting that the vice president had with a round table with black women where it was shut the door, let's have some real talk and talk about how black women can be her ambassadors in some of these communities. tell me about that meeting. >> first i have to say, congratulations and happy anniversary to you. >> thank you. >> for all you do to keep folks informed in telling our stories. i want to first say thank you for all you do. well, monday we met -- it was a follow-up meeting, tiffany, from the july 16th meeting we had with vice president harris around voting rights, and so it was a part of our black women allies work we've been doing collectively with now over 60 organizations and just pushing for voting rights and economic justice and reproductive justice, and so many issues that we're facing, but the meeting focused some on getting an update on where things were. we of course pushed for the biden/harris administration to do more to get us across the finish line with federal voting rights reform. that was front and center. we also talked about -- got an update from her about some of the things that they are utilizing. we talk about whole government approach. so they gave us an update about what the department of housing and urban development is doing to help provide access. talking about 3,000 local housing authorities that can help people through the help america vote act, what can be done through department of education to provide access to the ballot for students, for instance, and then what can be done for returning citizens out of the department of corrections. those were some of the things, and then we also discussed issues around -- it was the day before the maternal health summit that she was leading and several of the women in the room who were actively involved in that we talked about that impact around things around fibroids and how it impacts black women and other kinds of things around maternal health. and we also talked about build back better and the need to keep that. but then we also talked about how we feel that she needs to get out there more. now, she is a part of an administration, and she can't get ahead of the president, we understand that, but also ways that we thought that we could help in getting the word out because she's doing a lot of good work and people aren't hearing about that. >> right. and errin, you and i talked about this the last time you were on the show. look, even this meeting, it didn't get a lot of coverage, you know, "politico" ironically was one of the outlets who covered it, ""vanity fair"," but you know, "politico" this article on her blue tooth choices. i mean, this is really -- i can't tell you -- i've never had a conversation with anybody and this was the conversation they were having. i also don't remember reading a single article about how mike pence communicated on the phone. what's your take on all of this, errin? >> a couple of things, tiffany, happy showversary to you, it's your one year mark. did you notice how melanie was talking about how much of that meeting was focused on how the vice president is actually governing and using folks like melanie and others who really have a direct pipeline to black voters who really are hearing what they're saying on the ground about the vice president, about this administration getting the message out to them so they can get that message to voters. what we're talking about here is really a question of perception versus reality, and if people, particularly black voters feel like they're not seeing her or getting to know her, that is yes, an issue. the solution is on her office in part, but it is also on this political press that demand she reset while they continue as usual. they're much more focused on her use of wire headphones over blue tooth than maternal mortality or even her comments on voting rights at this week's summit on democracy where she was backing up president biden. she put out a statement on that abortion ruling while president biden hasn't uttered the word abortion which is something we covered. we at the press definitely have an obligation to hold the powerful accountable but headlines like the op-ed that peggy noonan wrote in "the wall street journal" about harris neating to get serious isn't an example -- who was uneasy, the press, conservatives? is it her fault that democrats elected somebody in their 70s who may or may not run for re-election. how is vice president harris failing? were immigration, and maternal mortality supposed to be fixed in less than a year by the second most powerful person in the country? people like melanie and others who support this vice president really came together even before she took office to guard against the racist and sexist narratives that were out there. i mean, peggy noonan talked about about her needing to be chastened and humbled. that plays into an up itty black person trope. just wrote a column comparing the coverage of former president trump and president biden. wouldn't it be interesting to see a side by side comparison of the coverage that the former vice president mike pence has gotten compared to president harris. we know after she became the nominee last year, she was at the center of an online misinformation campaign specifically aimed at her race, her gender, and her eligibility to serve as president. >> yeah, and you know, look, peg guy noonan worked for ronald reagan let me remind our vowers, so let us now revisit peggy noonan's, the administration she worked for. it's insulting to say kamala harris might want to get serious, i think peggy noonan might want to get relevant and figure out what's happening in today's society. her opinions are antiquated. it's not abnormal for staff to leave after a year of a white house. these folks work really hard, they take pay cuts. they go and they work for a year, and they go and work in the private sector. this is not the scandal that i think some beltway press is making it out to be. unfortunately this is a conversation that needs a bigger chunk of time that we don't have this morning because of the breaking news with the tornado. thank you for your warm wishes and thank you for joining us this morning. coming up, finally, the police are on trial, but will anything change? that's coming up next. stay tuned. that's coming up next. stay tuned ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list event. no one can deliver your mom's homemade short ribs. that's why instacart helps deliver the ingredients. and you add the love. are you tired of clean clothes that just don't smell clean? downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters keep your laundry 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handgun for her taser. here to discuss is the principal of black to the future action fund and co-creator of black lives matter, alisa gar ser, and charles coleman, i think making his "the cross connection" debut. thank you both for joining me on a very busy morning with lots of breaking news. charles, i want to start with you because i want to get to some of the things that happened in the trial. obviously officer potter says she mistook her handgun for her taser. is that a reasonable thing, and even if she did, does it matter in the eyes of the law? >> well, tiffany good morning and happy showversray and thank you for having me. i think it does matter. yes, it does matter in the eyes of the law because what you're talking about in that instance is a question of intent. in this case what people need to be focusing on is the jury. why i say that is because the question of reasonableness, the question of intent is really likely going to come down to how that jury processes kim potter's life experiences and what she says on the stand. the racial makeup of that jury is absolutely germane to what the outcome is going to be. what we find reasonable as people of color, as black people in america in terms of the actions of law enforcement is not necessarily going to be the same as what people who are not from our community and who do not share our experiences find to be reasonable. that's going to be a huge factor in terms of how the jury processes reasonableness, which is going to speak to intent and ultimately the charges that she's facing. >> alysia, that's in the eyes of the law. i'm looking at all of these upcoming cases, you have rayshard brooks in atlanta, this ronald green case out of louisiana is devastating. i mean, this man was beaten to death according to the autopsy by louisiana troopers who he could be heard saying i'm scared. i'm your brother. it's heartbreaking. i can hardly talk about it. one of the officers boasts that he beat the ever living out of him. it's disgusting. you have atatiana jefferson, that trial is coming up. it just seems like there's this endless loop of hashtags and trials. what is it going to take to change? because i don't know that this is over, and it does seem like if these trials are televised they get more attention. we have to remember there are trials happening all across this country that are not televised. >> absolutely, and first of all, happy showversary, tiffany, it's so good to be with you today. i'm so proud of you, congratulations. >> thank you. >> you know, here's what it's going to take. number one, what we know is that police officers are not being held accountable when they commit crimes in our communities and at the black futures lab and the black to the future action fund, we conducted the largest survey of black people in america in 156 years, and what we found that black communities across the country in all 50 states from all demographics, what black communities wanted to see is police being held accountable when they commit crimes in our communities. and so that is why it's so important to pass legislation like the justice in policing act, which would have ended qualified immunity for officers who are acting above and beyond the law. that is why it's so important for us to set a precedent at the federal government level that police officers who are sworn to protect and serve must do so and that when they do not do that in our communities that they will be held accountable. but as long as police officers have all kinds of rigged rules that allow them to wiggle out of accountability, then we're going to continue to see cases like this across the country. we're going to continue to leave it up to jury makeups, right, as to whether or not people think the police should be held accountable when they commit crimes in our communities. it's deeply important for black communities to see this kind of change coming from the biden harris administration, a strong statement that police cannot act above the law. but of course we also need to see this kind of change in cities and states across the country where most policy around policing is actually developed. and i'll just say this, tiffany, it's been a tough year as it relates to not just policing, right, but also vigilanteism s and my hope going into -- you know, as we close the first year of this administration is that the biden harris administration make an unwavering statement that they are committed, in fact, to ensuring that this country doesn't careen off of a cliff, that they will use everything in their power and influence to make sure that we restore the sanctity of our democracy and of our country, and part of what that means is that black communities and all communities have to live in such a way where our rights are respected, where our dignity is protected, and where nobody gets to act above and beyond the law. >> absolutely. and i just want to say that i wrote about the last poll that you did, black futures lab in my book, so and i got a sneak preview on this poll. it's quite fascinating. i hope people take a chance to look at that. i want to come back to you for something in the daunte wright case. daunte wright was initially stopped for an air freshener hanging from his rearview mirror. what's the crime here? >> the crime in that case is basically that there's an obstruction or something that is potentially obstructing or distracting to your rear view as a motorist. it is an offense that can result you being pulled over. there are a number of other offenses he is alleged to have committed that once he was pulled over. the officer was in training who made the decision to pull him over, and that was at kim potter's sort of behest, and she basically cosigned that. i want to really quickly go back to a point that alysia made. i think it's really imperative that this administration is paying attention to what goes on in these trials. there is the perception that this administration among black voters has not done enough to speak to the issues that are germane to our community. so when you talk about protection of voting rights and registration, when you talk about police reform and the fact that that conversation has virtually died, these trials have much greater implications than the verdicts in the actual states and communities where they are. so it's important that we also understand the political impact that they can have. >> absolutely, and you know, we'll have to have you both back because unfortunately there are going to be other trials that we'll have to discuss. thank you so much to alysia garza and charles coleman for joining us and keeping it condensed. coming up tomorrow, former attorney general eric holder and former senior adviser to president obama, don't miss it. thanks to you at home for watching. now stay tuned for alex witt and the latest breaking news on those deadly tornados that hit overnight. we'll see you next week on "the cross connection." cross connection." ♪♪ a very good day to all of you here from msnbc world headquarters in new york. a somber day, though, for many in this country as we approach high noon here in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome, everyone, to "alex witt reports." we're talking about the breaking news. dozens of devastating tornados carving a path of destruction across at least six states in the south and midwest and that threat is not over yet. with 12 million americans under risk across the southeast for severe weather today, at least 36 tornados are believed to have touched down across arkansas, illinois, kentucky, missouri, mississippi, and tennessee. one of the strongest tornados potentially traveled over 200 miles from arkansas to kentucky. here's a look at the damage today in bowling green. weather officials have confirmed an ef-2 tornado hit there with winds up to 120 miles an hour. at least 70 people are believed to be dead in just the state of kentucky alone. however, officials say the final figure could end up being closer to 100. we've got some drone video to show you of the total devastation of a candle factory, this in mayfield kentucky believed to be one of the hardest hit areas. in just the last hour, kentucky governor andy beshear gave an update from that devastated city. >> this has been the most devastating tornado event in our state's history. and for those that have seen it, what it's done here in graves county and

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incident, and we're hoping to do that. we're now 35 seconds away from launch. this is going to be -- this is of course blue origin. this is a jeff bezos company. we know that richard branson and elon musk have got projects like this. this is blue origin, jeff bezos's company. let's watch this launch. >> seven, six, five, four, main engine star . >> as long as i live, this is never going to get old for me. i can watch launches all the time. this is picture perfect so far. we are, i believe, still awaiting separation, but so far this has gone very well. you saw a drone shot of it, this allowed us to take the takeoff. you see the con trails behind it. this is a view down to earth from the rocket. this is only going to be a ten-minute flight, and they're four minutes into it now. so far going very well, and we hope that continues. it is a little bit of a hope on a day that is filled with tragedy. so at least we got something that we can be happy about today. but we are of course unfortunately going to be following the tragedy that has gone through several u.s. states, and that is a tornado that has caused more than 50 deaths, estimated to be possibly close to 100 in kentucky. that's not counting the other four states that it's it. we'll continue to cover that. i'm on my way to western kentucky now to bring you live coverage of it for the rest of the day and tomorrow. that does it for me. thanks for watching. "the cross connection with tiffany cross" begins right now. all right. good morning, everybody. welcome to "the cross connection." lots of breaking news. we begin this morning with that catastrophic series of tornadoes that touched down overnight in six states, spanning nearly 1,000 miles in the midwest and the south. now, kentucky officials fear that 50 or more people could be dead as rescue workers and residents begin digging through the wreckage. now, so far at least five people are confirmed dead throughout the region. not far from st. louis, officials say multiple people were killed when an amazon facility in edwardsville, illinois, partially collapsed. in one person, one person is confirmed dead and others seriously injured after a tornado hit a nursing home. white house press secretary jen psaki said president biden has been briefed on the storms and we'll bring you the latest with reports en route and a press conference from kentucky governor andy beshear expected in the next hour. right now i do want to bring in nbc meteorologist bill karins for the latest. i know it's been quite a busy morning for you. i'm baffled that there were 30 tornadoes that hit six different states. 30 tornadoes touching down, is that normal? >> it's normal for maybe spring, summer, maybe october to november. but for december, very rare, two weeks before christmas, to have a tornado outbreak like this, especially as far north as it is. it's not like we're talking south texas or louisiana, coastal alabama, mississippi. they were all the way up into kentucky with some of the worst damage from this storm. so this is what happened last night. we knew going into yesterday we had the chance for significant tornadoes. that was not a surprise. we even had the warning from the storm prediction center say a possibility of a few strong tornadoes. well, unfortunately, that happened. so when you get strong tornadoes, it's a matter if they hit something or they don't. unfortunately last night we know that many areas were hit, and we do know that we had at least one tornado on the ground for a very long period of time. i was tracking this last night from about, say, 7:00 p.m. to almost 1:00 a.m. we were focusing mostly on this one tornado, one town after another, saying get to your shelters, it's an emergency. and then we found out this morning that mayfield, kentucky, one of the areas we knew was hit extremely hard. when this tornado went over mayfield, it sucked debris from the town up to about 20,000 to 30,000 feet in the air where jets fly. we don't see it that often on radar like that. just put a pit in your stomach and you knew it was going to be bad. and the pictures we're seeing this morning, you're looking at the candle factory here. i've seen numerous pictures of the downtown area, and a lot of the town is destroyed. about 10,000 people call it home. there's going to be thousands of people that just don't have anywhere to live. we had 32 tornadoes reported in all. we had a few that were outside of st. louis. i want to focus on the one that hit the mayfield area. they did go under a tornado warning 25 minutes before the storm hit. and then it was escalated to a tornado emergency. tornado emergencies started happening in the last couple years. it's when we know for a fact we have a large tornado on the ground about to go through a town. and that was issued at 9:27. that was issued only three minutes before it hit mayfield. but regardless, the tornado warning, which should have told people to get to their shelters, people had a 25-minute lead time. so they had plenty of time. but when you have a tornado this strong, sometimes it just doesn't matter. here's the map that's just really incredible. with this one storm, the first warning went out at 5:50 p.m. the storm then traveled over southern missouri, through tennessee, and then into kentucky. the final warning was at 12:20 a.m. that 6 1/2 hours in 250 miles. we don't know if the tornado was on the ground the entire time or not. we'll get the storm surveys in the day ahead, but this was a historic tornado outbreak and this will likely be one of our top ten deadliest tornado days yesterday we had in our country's history. this is not your ordinary tornado outbreak, and this is not your ordinary event for the middle of december. this is historic and it's changed thousands of people's lives. >> around the holidays especially. especially around christmastime. bill, i'm glad you brought up mayfield, kentucky, because we'll be joined by a city council person next. you're saying this is normal, perhaps, for springtime. so why do you think this happened in december just weeks away from the holiday? you also talked about how long the tornado lasted. i don't think i have an idea of what's normal, what's a normal amount of time for a tornado to last. >> most tornadoes are on the ground for a quarter mile to half mile. occasionally we get a few on the ground five to ten miles. it's rare to get what we call a long-track tornado to exceed 50 miles. i have to look it up, but i believe the u.s. record is somewhere around 210 miles that any single tornado was on the ground. we don't know if it lifted and came back down or if it regenerated, but we know it's possible this one could challenge the all-time record. and yes, the middle of december, it's very unusual to have tornadoes this far to the north. typically we have snow cover on the ground in areas of the ohio valley, but we had a very warm fall and an extremely warm start to december. we had a warm air mass in place yesterday. so even though the calendar says december, the weather pattern has been more like late october or number of. that's the reason we got it. we have to get through the emergency first, but then we can get into the whole climate change we're warming up our planet and the lower 48. just wait till next week. we'll have a record-breaking heat wave and we'll see the hottest temperatures ever reported in december. yes, that's a bigger picture. right now they're just trying to save the lives and rescue the people. everything was turned upside down last night. >> just before i let you go, bill, you're saying next week there will be record heat waves. could we potentially see more tornadoes like this? >> the odds of anything like this are very, very, very very slim. this is a once in a couple year event we get a tornado outbreak like this, period. we have new pictures in. just getting restoration to power and people in homes. people are going to need hotel rooms, fema trailers. a lot of people's lives -- they're not going to be able to return to their homes. obviously with the holidays, it's just misery on top of misery. and the fact it's december, it's eventually going to get cold. trying to repair and rebuild in the middle of winter, there's a lot of layers to this that makes this extremely difficult for everyone affected. >> all right. well, don't go far, bill. i'm sure we'll be coming back to you this hour. our meteorologist bill karins brought up mayfield, kentucky. this was hit the hardest. i want to bring many city council member barry mcdonald who was there when the tornado struck down. councilman, thank you so much for joining us. i'm so terribly sorry for the devastation you're dealing with this morning. my first question is, how are you? are you okay? >> yes, ma'am, doing fine. talked to friends throughout the community. they're all safe. it's just devastating. >> and so, this candle factory, we saw some footage all morning. msnbc has been playing the audio of a woman who was stuck inside the candle factory. thankfully she's okay now. she was on with my colleague, ali velshi last hour. there were 110 people inside that candle factory when the tornado struck down. i know the rescue workers are pulling some people out. any update on what's happening with those folks now? >> i think those rescue efforts are continuing. i don't think they have a good count yet on the number of fatalities there. last word i have from a half hour ago. it's horrible -- people at work, late afternoon, early evening shift. i'm sure they felt comfortable in that facility. it's just devastating to our community. >> absolutely it's devastate. the kentucky governor will have a press conference. i'm certain he'll give us an update on what's happening in that cadged factory coming up at 11:00 a.m. on msnbc. councilman, what about people in residential areas? have you been in touch with any of your constituents? any idea on folks outside the candle factory? we're looking at the images, and i have to tell you, it looks apocalyptic. outside of your immediate friends and family, any update on the people in mayfield? >> yes. my wife and i were out last night checking some of the buildings. i helped take care of the downtown area. i just waited till daylight this morning. there's about a mile-wide path through downtown. the north side becomes an older residential area that i think several homes and mixed businesses are damaged. but the downtown churches, three of the four downtown churches, which are all older churches built in the early 1900s are just demolished, three of the four. you look at the post office, an old hospital, which has been converted to apartments, it's just -- the whole downtown community is destroyed. >> we're showing on our screens right now some of the wreckage. i mean, looking at it, i think it's going to be weeks before there's a final account on all the folks who may have been in some of those buildings. i thank you for taking the time to join us. bless you and your family, i hope you're okay and we'll definitely be in touch to make sure everything is okay there in mayfield as this story develops. i want to turn to msnbc reporter stephanie stanton who's been keeping us abreast all morning of what's happening. stephanie, this is so devastating to see these families going through this. at any time this is hard, but especially around the holidays just a few weeks shy of christmas. do you have any idea how much of a warning people got before the tornadoes actually struck? >> reporter: well, you know, it's interesting, and we were talking this in the last couple hours with ali velshi. he was talking to bill about some of the warning systems that are in place. and i know that -- it was my understanding they had some warning, although it is unclear at this point exactly how much warning they had, possibly 15 minutes. but nevertheless, warning or not, when you look at the scope of this devastation and this damage, this tornado ripping through miles and miles, multiple states, this is so unprecedented, tiffany, and so unheard of, especially for this time of year. we usually see tornadoes in spring, that i think everyone is just really stunned, dumfounded. everyone is trying to wrap their heads around what exactly happened here and how this happened. and query now just starting to see images come across, video of the level of devastation that these people will be dealing with not only for days, but weeks and possibly months. and so we are waiting for continuous updates from officials. i've been monitoring social media. i know we were talking about mayfield, kentucky, but there are other flash points within this story, places that have seen pretty serious damage. one of them is edwardsville, illinois. this is 30 minutes outside of st. louis to the east at that amazon warehouse. that warehouse was built in 2016. we know people were working inside. we're waiting for an update on exactly how many people. we heard potentially one fatality so far. officials said that is expected to grow. and they are combing through that rubble right now, through that aftermath and the mangled metal because we saw a huge portion of that building was essentially ripped off. the roof was gone. so that is a very sad situation there. we did also receive a statement from amazon. i want to put that on your screen and read you part of that statement saying our thoughts, prayers, and deepest sympathies are with the victims, their loved ones, and everyone impacted. this is a devastating tragedy for our amazon family and our focus is on supporting our employees and partners. you have edwardsville, illinois, that is one place that has seen a lot of damage within that amazon facility. of course you talked about what they're seeing in mayfield, kentucky. i was also looking at social media, tiffany, and people couldn't believe their town was essentially gone. this is what we're going to see as we continue to see these images come across. we see the helicopters and the drone footage. you will see a few houses. you'll see houses that were not really badly damaged, some of them full standing. and then you will see several houses in a row just completely reduced to rubble. and so we don't know the status of a lot of the residents. we're still trying to sort through it all. i've been watching all morning from here as we await our correspondence on the ground there. we'll keep an eye on things and bring you updates as we have them. >> thank you so much, stephanie. i want to remind our viewers that the kentucky governor beshear will be having a press conference at 11:00 a.m. eastern time and we'll bring that live to you. stay with us as we continue to bring you breaking news on this deadly tornado. we'll be right back. there is noe like wayfair. i never thought i'd buy a pink velvet sofa, but when i saw it, i was like 'ah'. and then i sat on it, and i was like 'ooh'. ooh! stylish and napable. okay now. i can relate to this one. i'm a working mom with three boys. 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i'm not on a plane. the lights went out and we did a little rock, rock, boom. and everything just came down on us. and i was trapped. the water fountain was in between my legs, and they had me pinned down. and then coworkers were pinned up against me and there were people at my feet too. and i found out later that when i was trying to get, y'all get this up, get this up, and my coworker said, i can't, because there's an air conditioner behind the water fountain. you know how heavy an air kern is for a factory. we were trying to stay calm. we had our bouts with panic, but then from there people started to -- and i keep saying this because i want people to understand. there were people from jail, graves county jail that worked there. they allowed them to work there. i remember there was one inmate in particular, he was digging. and he was breaking the dry wall. and he was trying to get people out. and then they had opened it up enough so that they were able to get my coworker who was wedged next to me, they pulled her out. and then they pulled one of the line leaders out and they were able to pull one of my supervisors out. and i was scared because of where i was and because when the search and rescue people came, if you could just get this off of me where i can move my leg, i'll be okay, i can stay down here, but my leg. and he says, ma'am, there's about five feet of debris on you. and at that point i didn't think that i was going to make it. i didn't think they were going to be able to get me. i thought them moving around all this stuff was going to cause to everything fall on me. but there was -- i don't know if it was nate or gary, but it was one of them. thank you if y'all are watching, thank you. he came down there, both of them held my hand, talked me through it, they pulled and pushed me up. i had blood pressure down there for over two hours. i was in this awkward position and my foot was numb. i couldn't feel it. we finally got my left foot straighten up, but my right leg was still bent in that awkward position. and it was numb and hurting. and so they started pulling me up. the entire time i was there, i got on my phone and called my mom. one of my friends called me because he told me not to go to work anyway because there was a storm coming. so i went. so he called me, like, literally right when it happened and he says, see, i know you sorry you went to work. and i'm like i started screaming i'm stuck, we're trapped. and he was like, oh, my god. i called 911 and they said we're trying. when they told me all the damage was done, i said they're not going to get to me. so i said let me go live. i know social media will get word out there. i wanted more people to know that we were stuck because i was afraid they didn't know that we were stuck and if they didn't know, they wouldn't come save us. once i went live, i guess people started finding out. people were calling. and then, you know, people were there. and i didn't know, i didn't realize -- i had a watch on too, i never even looked at the time. so they started getting everybody up. once everybody was out, i was able to scooch around and get up. i was so scared because it was a narrow spot. y'all, i'm too big. my butt is too big, how am i going to get out of here? it's either nate or gary, one was at the bottom, one was at the top. one was literally pushing me up to get up because my right leg was completely asleep and i couldn't move it. it just wouldn't do anything i told it to do. so i was able to get up. i got up to the top. when i see that air, even though it was darks it was the best thing i had ever seen in my life. we were walking on beams. that five feet of debris that was on me, that's what i had to climb up to get out. i had to walk across it. there were beams and there was somebody at every step that i went -- somebody said step here, step there. once i came down, then it was a woman, colleen, she walked me to the trailer. i'm soaking wet. first of all, i was underneath a water fountain, so it spilled on me. now i'm in the rain as well. so i'm soaking wet. one of my friends who works there as well, he was outside in a van. i was so scared and i kept calling his phone and he didn't answer. i just thought the tornado had took him and threw him somewhere. finally he called me back. and so my other coworkers, they were calling and we were talking and we all met up. you know, hugs and everything. but then people kept coming up to me and asking me about different people's names. our cars -- if you look -- my car is somewhere in there. you see the cars. it looks like someone poured out a tub of hot wheel cars. that's how the cars are from the parking lot. i don't have a car, so i had to call my neighbor, my lovely neighbor. she came and brought two of my daughters, my older two children. she brought them to come and get me. and i came on home. as i started taking off my clothes, there was dry wall everywhere falling out of -- i wear hoodies to work because i usually get cold. all in my hoodie and the little pocket, the pouch, dry wall everywhere. i sat on my bed for a second. dry wall, all on the bask my clothes. but i don't care because i'm here and i'm grateful and i'm thankful. >> queen kiana, that was quite a testimony that you just offered. i'm grateful that you're still okay. what about your home, your children? i know two of your oldest daughters are with you. is your neighborhood and house, everything okay there? >> i don't live in mayfield. i actually live in paducah, 45 minutes outside of mayfield. so my children were fine. they were just worried about me. and my, where i live, my place, it's fine. i found out they did have them all go to the hospital for shelter for a while. but other than that, everybody's okay. my kids, my neighbor's brother kept them when everybody came to get me. and i haven't even seen my boys. they were asleep. they weren't paying me no attention. >> well, we are so happy you're okay. one of the things you said that was very striking reminds us of the humanity of incarcerated individuals who were there. i assume, providing free labor, and whose instinct was to dig and free other people. what was the gentleman's name that you said immediately began to dig. >> i don't know his name. i don't know his name at all. i just know he's been there all this week and he's always smiling. he's a hispanic gentleman and he's always smiling and he just wants to work. they're happy to be out of jail, of course, but i'm grateful. if it had been me, i would have been running for my freedom not trying to help anyone. they were working hard. they were working hard and i'm grateful for all the people that came out to help us. >> absolutely. i'm grateful for the people who came out to help you and i'm grateful you're okay on this 40th birthday for you. we don't know his name, so for now we'll refer to him as an angel, because he helped to get to you safety and other folks. kiana, i'm so glad you're okay. happy birthday to you. i hope you're able to somehow enjoy this day and celebrate the fact that you are alive and here. we will continue to pray for all the people who were devastated by this. so thank you, kiana parsons perez for joining us this morning. we'll continue to bring you the latest breaking news on the deadly tornadoes. but for now, we met to turn to the supreme court where in a 5-4 ruling on friday, this radical conservative court decided to let the state's controversial six-week abortion ban stay in place while the law is challenged in court. this is texas i'm referring to, of course. this leaves millions of texans, most of them poor, without access to abortion care in the coming months. meanwhile, radical republicans on capitol hill are doubling down on their culture war clown show and voting to promote death and disease by attempting to repeal the president's federal vaccine mandate. i don't know how we begin to make sense of all of this, but here to reflect our confusion and outrage is the amazing democratic massachusetts congresswoman ayanna pressley. congresswoman, so happy to have you with us this morning. thanks for bearing with us. a lot of breaking news this morning. but i'm very glad to have you on. i'm really concerned about our democracy. we're back -- bookended. donald trump's appointees are eroded rights. and people brag about not being vaccinated. walk us through this and make it make sense if you can. >> what i'll offer is that congress has to lead in this moment. that's right, there's extremism and imbalance. we need to expand the courts, but that's a conversation for another day. these courts have proven time and time again that they're not on the side of the people. in fact, they're against the elephant people. this is settled law. a majority of americans don't want to see roe v. wade overturned. abortion care is health care. this is a constitutional right, and the supreme court should have just struck that ruling down. and so if they're not going to act in alignment with the will of the people and affirm that health care is a constitutional right, and abortion care is health care, then congress must stand in the gap. my bill with representative judy chu, the women's health protection act passed the house. the senate needs to take that up quickly and we need to get that to the president's desk for signature. and that would codify roe v. wade and ban the introduction of harmful, draconian, discriminatory laws like this, what we've seen in texas and mississippi and upper right-hand side and ensure access to abortion. when we have these bans, it doesn't mean people stop having abortions. it means they stop doing it safely and legally. this is quite literally a matter of life and death. >> yeah. speaking of life and death, for these hypocrites who are your colleagues who call themselves the misnomer of being pro-life while they promote violence and put some of your colleagues, congresswoman ilhan omar, in danger. this week you joined your colleagues in a call to have congresswoman boebert removed from her committees. i have to tell you, i think that's a great move. however, is that the harshest move that congress can give boebert given her comments? she ran been being able to carry a gun in the united states capitol. is that the harshest thing congress can do to this woman? >> well, i think the point here, tiffany, is words have consequences. boebert trafficking hate, perpetuating islamophobia, calling a colleague a suicide bomber has consequences for her and her family. hundreds end up a letter to democratic leadership, speaking to their own vulnerability and fear of that of their families and their communities. so those words have had consequences, boebert's hate words. hate speech leads to hate violence. if her words had consequences for rep omar, muslim staff, and the muslim community writ large, they are watching. so there must be consequences for rep boebert and accountability, otherwise we embolden the trafficking of hate. i wouldn't not discredit the impact of that, tiffany, because, you know, that is where so much of your power comes from being a member of congress. but the point is we need to send a strong and strident message by stripping rep boebert of her committees, that this is unacceptable. it's unconscionable. it is dangerous, and we will not stand for it. and again, the muslim community writ large, the world is watching. congress needs to take this resolution up quickly for a vote. >> yeah, and i certainly don't want to discredit it, congresswoman, i consider if i made those threats to my colleagues, i would be fired. and so, you know, there is no safety net. >> that's okay. >> yeah. >> this is the workplace. if this was happening in any other workplace, you know, so it's not or, it's and. but we should start there. >> absolutely. they're telling me i'm way over time, but i want to get in a quick question because you have this new bill. there was an incarcerated individual who was helping to free people trapped in that candle warehouse in mayfield, kentucky. you have a new bill, the fixed clemency act, we're way over time, but you did introduce this bill. in ten seconds, if you could tell us about it before we have to let you go. >> mass incarceration is a crisis disproportionately suffered by communities of color. it's a policy and moral flurry. we need to address this crisis. we need to dismantle mass incarceration. we need to decrease the prison population. clemency, compassionate release is a powerful tool the president has. it will decrease prison population. but the current system is inefficient. our fixed clemency act will make the process by taking it out of the department of justice. it will create an independent review board and make the process fair, efficient, and transparent so that people can get on a pathway to redemption and justice, tiffany. that backlog right now is 50,000 applications long behind every application is an individual and a family. we need to do something about that. their lives are hanging in the balance. >> i just want to say i think congress is made better having you in it. i wanted to get into voting rights and build back better, so that means you'll have to come back on the show. >> the air waves are made better by you. happy show--versary, tiffany. so glad you're here. >> you were with me one year ago today when this show launched, so it's an honor and pleasure to have you back with me this morning. thank you "f" for the work that you do. you'll have to come back very soon. thank you so much to congresswoman pressley for joining us. coming up for you at home, we'll have the latest breaking news on this deadly string of tornadoes that swept through several states overnights, including that press conference by the governor of kentucky, one of the hardest-hit states. so you don't want to miss it. stay with us. with relapsing forms of ms... there's a lot to deal with. not just unpredictable relapses. all these other things too. it can all add up. kesimpta is a once-monthly at-home injection... that may help you put these rms challenges in their place. kesimpta was proven superior at reducing the rate of relapses, active lesions, and slowing disability progression vs aubagio. don't take kesimpta if you have hepatitis b, and tell your doctor if you have had it, as it could come back. kesimpta can cause serious side effects, including infections. while no cases of pml were reported in rms clinical trials, it could happen. tell your doctor if you had or plan to have vaccines, or if you are or plan to become pregnant. kesimpta may cause a decrease in some types of antibodies. the most common side effects are upper respiratory tract infection, headache, and injection reactions. ready for an at-home treatment with dramatic results? 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>> congratulations to you. i'm the 60th mayor of atlanta, and you just mention two of my good friends, stacey abrams and raphael warnock. both of them will be on the ballot in november of '22. i'll tell you, just a week and a half ago we saw the negative effects of sb 202. that's the voter suppression bill that came out of the state. even in a municipal election for makers we saw the problems that persisted related to provisional ballots and absentee and mail-in ballot issues. these problems had folks that had to mail in an application with their i.d. to then get a ballot back and then send that ballot back with their i.d. you can imagine how difficult that was for seniors and individuals that didn't have access to printers, et cetera. it played in our election and made it where we had less than a 20% turnout in the municipal election. imagine how that's going to play out in the larger elections for governor and senate. so what we're going to have to do is do what atlanta does well. they influence everything and we're going to have to really push to educate our voters and to get them turned out so they can vote. >> yeah. i know all about it. i left the swats 20 years ago for the nation's capitol. proud to represent here on the set. let me ask, because atlanta is dealing with spikes in crime. the city is changing in great ways in some aspects and in adverse ways in others. you're in a challenging position here because you had the upcoming trial for rayshard brooks, the two students tased during the george floyd protest, the spike in crime. you'll have to navigate this as there's increased spotlight on the adverse impacts of policing, particularly when it comes to black folks. how do you plan on walking that line, making people feel safe, and also making sure people do not feel like they have a license to abuse authority? >> absolutely, tiffany. this is a delicate balance, a tough time to go into office. but, you know, this is where all of my experience is leading up to this point will come to bear. being an atlantan, i was born and raised in southwest atlanta and being a black man that grew up in that area, i understand very well the challenges of crime and also of policing. and so what i came up with is a balanced approach to safety and justice, one that's to be smart on crime. and it does require training and retraining of officers and some changes in our standard operating procedures. as it relates to rayshard brooks, that was an incident that did not have to happen. some changes that can be made is how we de-escalate issues, but also just change up what officers are actually required to respond to, things related to behavioral health, mental challenges, homelessness, we may not need police officers to be the proper response to that. we can have domestic crisis intervention or service workers to be able to deal with those issues to get people the proper care that they need. and so in an incident like rayshard brooks are individuals are unarmed and they're ending up being killed or hurt, you know, these type of scenarios can be avoided with more training and standard operating procedures. i also still believe in due process for citizens, due process for officers. that's why my safe streets plan is a balanced approach to safety and justice, one that requires us to have community-based policing so that we can get down this violent crime wave, but also make sure the citizens of atlanta see their policing as a part of the community and not a separate organization that has an issue with them. >> all right. well, we are way over time, but we'll have to have you back again really soon. for now, just two atl-ens and a cadillac. we'll have to come down there soon and do this in person. coming up, we're keeping tabs on that deadly wave of tornadoes that ripped through several states. stay with us as we bring you the latest. right, i think we're going, actually -- we're going to bring in another guest. i'm sorry. okay, i'm sorry. lots of breaking news. my control room is telling me we're going on a commercial break. we'll see you on the other side of the break. stay tuned. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list event. ♪ my songs know what you did in the dark ♪ ♪ so light 'em up, up, up light 'em up, up, up ♪ ♪ light 'em up, up, up ♪ ♪ i'm on fire ♪ ♪ so light 'em up, up, up light 'em... ♪ we're making the fagioli! ♪ i'm on fire ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ this looks great. awesome. alright. thank you! what... what recipe did you use? 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kentucky alone. kentucky was of course the hardest hit and at least 32 tornados are believed to have touched down overnight in arkansas, illinois, kentucky, missouri, mississippi, and tennessee. again, with kentucky being the hardest hit of those states. president biden is calling it an unimaginable tragedy and says the white house is working with the governors of those states as they search for survivors. governor beshear says at least four tornados hit kentucky including one which stayed on the ground for 200 miles, and more than a half million people have been left without power. in edwardsville, illinois, outside of st. louis a search and rescue operation is underway at an amazon warehouse where a wall partially collapsed. officials are reporting multiple deaths at that scene. nbc news meteorologist bill karins is back with the latest. bill. >> yeah, just still seeing incredible pictures, especially from you and on social media of just what used to be in some areas. in some cases we're watching you see a slab of concrete and then in the distance on the edge of the property you see the trees with what was left of the house in them, and that's when you know you've just dealt with an incredibly powerful storm, and i don't know, it's going to take a while to even figure out who's missing from these homes. >> right. >> i wouldn't be surprised if the death toll numbers go up not just during the day today but sunday, maybe even into monday because it's going to take that long to figure out who was where and what was supposed to be where. so let me just give you the overview first. this was a well-advertised storm. we knew we were going to get some tornados. did we know it was going to be this bad? you never hope so, at least we knew there was the possibility of strong tornados. we had 32 tornado reports. there were a bunch around the st. louis area, a couple in arkansas. we know the nursing home was hit there, two people died in that nursing home. there was like 40 beds that were occupied that was already bad. it could have been worse, and then that storm tracked all the way through southern missouri, tennessee, kentucky. it went through four states and that one was the one that did all the damage in mayfield, so that one lone storm, so that thunderstorm produced the tornado and tornado warnings for roughly 250 miles through four states. the first warning was at 5:50 p.m. the final warning was just after midnight, and all along that path we had tornado emergencies that were issued for numerous towns. there were eight in all that were under tornado emergencies. we know that mayfield was one of those that was under the emergency that was hit the hardest. so the people in mayfield, they knew going into the day first off potential of tornados. they went under a tornado watch about three hours before the tornado hit. they went under an official tornado warning, that's when the sirens go off, that's when your cell phone starts beeping and buzzing, that was 25 minutes before it hit, and then because they knew that this was on the ground, this was a huge tornado, storm chasers said it was on its way in, called a tornado emergency for mayfield, three minutes before it struck the town. so they had warning. i mean, there's not much else, you know, the national weather service or officials could have done, you know, if people were paying attention they should have been getting to their safety and their structures. but sometimes it just doesn't matter because if it is so strong and so intense, even if you're in your safe room unless it's like, you know, underground, you may not survive it. so this is the enhanced fujita scale. just like hurricanes, we have a rating for how intense they are from ef 0 being minor damage. that's one that maybe would knock some branches down, knock some shingles off your roof all the way to an ef-4 and ef-5. extreme damage, devastating damage. those are very rare storms we haven't had any 5s in three years. these strongest tornados are the ones that kill the most people. they're also the ones that will just wipe the house off the concrete slab foundation s. this is one of the stats that we don't want to get on this list. i do think there is the potential, especially when you see how bad mayfield is and some of these other small towns in kentucky. these are the top five deadliest tornado days in our country's history. to make the list you have to get above 150. i hope we don't, but there is definitely the possibility that this storm could end up being on this list. it was that intense and it was on the ground for that long at night. >> bill, i got to interrupt you, we're going to go live to the press conference where governor beshear is updating what happened. >> this has been the most devastating tornado event in our state's history, and for those that have seen it, what it's done here in grace county and elsewhere, it is indescribable. the level of devastation is unlike anything i have ever seen. you see parts of industrial buildings roofs or sidings in trees, if trees are lucky enough to stand. huge metal poles bent in half if not broken. buildings that are no longer there. huge trucks that have been picked up and thrown, and, sadly, far too many homes that people were likely in entirely devastated. this will be, i believe, the deadliest tornado system to ever run through kentucky. you know, earlier this morning at about 5:00 a.m., we were pretty sure that we would have -- we would lose over 50 kentuckians, i'm now certain that number is north of 70. it may, in fact, end up exceeding 100 before the day is done. the damage is even worse now that we have first light. a couple places have been hit incredibly hard, certainly mayfield here in grace county, but everywhere along the line of this tornado, it touchdown down and stayed down for 227 miles over 200 in kentucky, has been severely and significantly impacted. i've been on the phone with now nearly every county judge in areas that have been impacted. we have pledged our full support. i have talked to the secretary of homeland security while i have been here. he has pledged his full support, and we are hearing that from every part of the federal administration and from our u.s. senators and from our congressmen. kentucky is united today behind the people of western kentucky who want to be here to help dig out, to help make rescues, to help provide when people are suffering, and then to help rebuild. this is not a one-day thing. this is one state, and we will stand united to make sure that we can lift our families back up. please know that there are a lot of families that need your prayers, prayers that somebody may be found or prayers to help them through the grieving process. dawson springs up the road hit incredibly hard. that's where i'll be headed next. i want to call on a number of people today to give you an idea of different things that we are doing. i can tell you that the state of emergency was put into place last night before midnight, the national guard is deployed and will be in communities very shortly, and that is now going to be augmented. we need more individuals in the field. we're going to hear from our general in a minute. first i want to turn it over to jesse, the county judge here who has been working really hard, and then we'll hear from the mayor, and then we'll move to emergency management, national guard. we'll hear from the transportation cabinet and what they're doing, state police and others. judge. >> thank you, governor. this is probably the toughest day of my life right here. when you -- when you run for office, you don't know what to expect, but when you see your communities in your county in this kind of situation, it's tough. it's tough on our communities. it's tough on our families. you know, last night i was with my family, and i was watching -- we were watching the storm, and we were watching noaa and trent with the weather, the local 6, and, you know, those folks did a really good job of informing of what was going to happen and -- but i had an eerie feeling about it. i can tell you that, i didn't really feel good about it. and as this thing was -- as the governor said for the 200 miles it was on the ground watching it head towards grace county, you know, that -- it was a reality at that time, so the only thing i can say to you all at this time, what we need from everyone is we need your prayers. we need your help, everyone, so many surrounding counties. judge climer is with us here, our adjoining county, our local officials right now, if you want to know where heroes are, they are out here in the trenches taking -- trying to find people. that's what they're doing right now, and they don't ask for nothing. they just want to resolve the situation and help somebody. there are people coming are from all over the country here right now. we are very blessed with what we're having with the help and the situation. our sheriff's department and i'm not going to start naming folks, our police department, our fire departments, our volunteer fire departments, our ems, our hospitals, our health departments so many are out there right now and they're going through. and you know what's -- we're all here, and right now there are still streets and roads that are blocked, people needing help, so i ask you prayer, prayer, prayer. please pray for these folks. they will need supplies. the governor's helping with his administration to help get supplies in here to graves county, but what i'm saying to you is if you just -- somebody might just need someone to talk to. right now mayfield high school, there's 50 people waiting to go somewhere. they have nowhere to go. they just need somebody to talk to, and we are in this warm room right now, so just realize that there are people still cold. the temperature's going to drop tonight, so we're going to be in a situation there. we have no water here in graves county. that affects a lot of the rural area in graves county. we're going to work through that with maple water and electric and a lot of our units. the power is out for several miles around the city. there again, i'm asking for each and every one of you to pray for our community. thank you. >> always ask about what's the best thing about mayfield and graves county, quickly my answer is the people, and what's happening today is exactly what we do best. we have been hit, our commonwealth has been hit. people we love have lost loved ones. our hearts are broken because the people that we work with, the people that we know, our families are hurting. i echo what judge perry has just said. i've heard from so many mayors across the commonwealth and people i went to high school with, college with, what can we do. what we need from people standing in this room and directing other people is just to pray for us, and we will be fine. it's going to take us a while, we will be fine. today we're going to focus on those who have lost so much, and that's where our hearts are with them who have lost the people they love and the property and the way they make a living. pray for us, stand with us, and we will come out stronger because of this. thank you. >> next we'll hear from director dosett from emergency management. we have an incredible team locally here augmented by the state. i've watched it all firsthand being in the emergency operations center since about 1:00 this morning, and hearing the reports but also the response come in in realtime. i believe within the hour or so we will have a federal disaster declaration. i've been assured that by the secretary of homeland security and folks at the white house. it's going to let us be reimbursed quicker. it's going to bring some additional resources here. we will see more resources coming into this area to respond to this disaster, i believe, than we've ever seen. director dawson. >> thank you, governor, and my first comments are to those families of those we have lost. my sincere -- my sincere hope for a speedy recovery. we'll be with you for weeks, months and years in this fight. already you've seen neighbors helping neighbors. that's what kentuckians do. thank you to the judge and the mayor. we're here with federal support and state support. as the governor indicated we have the kentucky transportation cabinet already on the ground, the national guard is here. the governor has spoken this morning with dee ann criswell, she is a fema administrator. already in progress on the highway is a fema team which will assist graves with the search and rescue out at the plant. we have a power assistance package coming, generators that can power up to a facility as large as a hospital. we have an imat team, these are incident management teams that organize the entire effort for weeks. we have an incident support team, which will come right here in graves county and assist in organizing the search and rescue efforts. i want to thank louisville jefferson county, metro ema came down, got on the road within two hours, and they brought assets and they're going to be staying for several days. and thank you most of all to all the first responders. you are the true heroes. you were out while the wind was still blowing and the thunderstorms were passing through, and the squall lines were here. so thank you for that. we're also looking at, as the governor indicated, we are asking fema for immediate reimbursement for category a and category b dangers. that will be an immediate process. we have teams are from kentucky emergency management. we're sending an int team down here as early as tomorrow. sot resources are flowing. we have water on the road. i know your water system was destroyed, including the tower. we also have just had a generous offer from walmart to start doing drop shipment of bottled water and we'll continue with that. we're here to help you and, again, any support that you need don't hesitate to call the state eoc through tracy. thank you. >> some outside the region, maybe even outside the state are already asking how they can help. we are working right now on setting up a direct fund. it's going to be, i believe, called the western kentucky tornado relief fund that we're going to be able to accept help into and direct it here in the ways that it's needed the most and to be able to be flexible with the leadership here. that is in process. but i hope everybody can see that this whole state, this whole state is with this area. you don't just have the head of all emergency management, we have the head of our kentucky national guard, which deploys at all of our largest emergencies. you see here to witness it firsthand, we're already staging operations in, what, about eight counties or close to it with requests still coming in. so general lamberton. >> thank you, governor, and just to share with everybody here at this junction literally as i speak and as the governor insinuated, we've got guardsmen from other communities that are en route to the graves county right now. these folks are coming to assist with everything from search and rescue and i've been able to speak with both the police chief and the fire chief as well, and we've identified some of the concerns as far as security needs as a result of the damage that's been done at this junction. so some of the guardsmen that we've got showing up who also will be coming in to address that. we've got representatives from our unit up in paducah, and he's serving quite simply as kind of a liaison right now to get kind of an on the ground assessment of what the needs are. he's leading those needs -- what that phone said -- >> that's this one. there we go. apparently all i had to do was pick it up. >> just wanted to be sure that you all are tracking what i was saying so it was redundant at this junction. but that the liaison i just mentioned so he's feeding back to his unit in paducah what some of the other situations pertinent where we the guard can assist with, and folks will be coming forward from his unit as well. we're tracking this in our joc, our joint operation center that's up in frankfort, they're working with the folks out of the eoc, the emergency operation center, to coordinate all the support coming to you and prioritize whether it's a civilian agency, an emergency support function or a national guard asset that serves the community here, and we'll maintain that a contact chief to be sure that we're addressing whatever you and your folks identify on the ground. thank you. >> i think as of this morning we deployed a little over 180 national guardsmen. we are increasing that number as more requests come in. also trying to use our armories in different areas like taylor county and others as a place of refuge for people. i know one of the big challenges is debris removal. i wanted us to be able to hear from the transportation cabinet that i know is working with so many folks here. i know -- i think we're going to hear -- we've got more than 50 people that are out there right here in the area, and i've said if there are any others, it's time to get them in their vehicle. >> thank you. governor, so just to give you a brief overview of the transportation cabinet here in district one, we covered the 12 westernmost counties, so as this storm passed across western kentucky it impacted five of our 12 counties, fulton, hickman, graves, marshal and lion counties, and so in those counties specifically we have our internal crews there out on all of our state routes as well as the county routes that intersect those state routes through the swath of the storm utilizing loaders, back hoes, track loaders, dozers, excavators chain saws and manpower. right here alone in the city of mayfield we have approximately 20 folks that are from other counties assisting our graves county crew and altogether in graves county we have about 40 folks helping assist with state routes, city routes. we've been in conjunction with the chief of police here, the public works director, the mayor, the state police coordinating our efforts on every route there is within the city of may field. in totality, we have approximately 170 employees across our district one that are out in some capacity addressing this particular storm, and again, we have every large piece of equipment that we have at our disposal in operation currently. >> thank you. chief, would you all like to offer anything additional? you're welcome to. i wanted to make sure we had an opportunity to hear directly from them. they've been doing this work through the night, and we'll hear from the state police, and we'll open up for questions. i do want to thank atf that is here, bringing in even more individuals to help out. we appreciate our federal partners. >> my name is jeremy ceo son, the fire chief and ems for the city of mayfield. just a quick update. first our priority one right now is the mcb candle factory. that's where the bulk of our assets are right now. still working through rescue and recovery operations. it is a -- it's a large facility that was devastated in this tornado, so it's going to be a long, a long, difficult job but we got -- we've got good crews out there. we've got a lot of help from across the state coming in. we're very thankful for that. as of right now, our ems volume has stabilized. we also have a lot of ems crews coming in from across the state. as of right now, 11 different counties have sent ambulance crews to mayfield to assist us. we're -- i can't say thank you enough for the help that we've received. everywhere from our neighbors counties to vanderbilt, kentucky board of ems has allocated, we hope, an additional eight ambulances from all over the state of kentucky to come in and assist us. we -- i want to thank air evac. they have not only conducted four scene flights of critical patients but they've also allocated staffing from other bases to come in and assist us on our ground operations. overnight we had four structure fires. very difficult to get to the fires. once we did with the help of our volunteer departments in the county, we were able to get each of those fires extinguished, so that threat is under control. we are -- we're dealing with some issues right now, station one, which is our main station in the hub of our department, it was -- we were in the direct line of the tornado yesterday, so that station is fully inoperable at this point. we had to extricate our own fire and ems apparatus from that building just so we could respond last night. so today, my next priority is going to be to find a new station and a temporary home for 45 firefighters in our apparatus. and -- but again, i just want to thank all the support that we've received across this room, across the state, the people that have called and just showed up to help, i can't say enough just at how honored i am at the love that we've been shown by our neighbors. so thank you. >> my name's nathan kent, the chief of police for the city of mayfield. our mission is fluid as it's gone through the night. and i think it will continue to change throughout the next couple of days. we've been blessed with some support from our sister law enforcement agencies. state police has been here from the beginning, the murray city police department and paducah police department set off a search early this morning and they're patrolling in the city to assist the mayfield police department. one of our biggest challenges in the days to come is going to be interoperability and communications. we've lost some of our assets here in the city, state police, communications branches assisting us with that and bringing radios that will allow all of our first responders to be able to communicate not only with the post but with one another. so we're anxious to get that component in place. in addition to the fire station, our police station was destroyed in the storm. the bulk of our fleet that was parked there has also been compromised. but we are making due. again, we are borrowing vehicular assets from other departments and have been very gracious to bring manpower, again, long before the sun came up this morning. the mayfield police department will begin 12-hour shifts later this evening. we've sent some of our people that had been out 24 hours to get some rest while these other departments were here to help us. beginning tonight, we'll provide 24-hour patrol again beginning this evening. the mayor and the judge executive, the county have spoken, and there's going to be a curfew put in place for this evening beginning at 7:00 p.m. the particulars of that will be that within the city limits and those parts of the county that have been directly affected by the path of the storm. so after dark we'll go dusk to dawn. if you're not an emergency responder, you need not be in any of those areas after dark. if you are, our law enforcement officers are going to investigate those circumstances, so we just ask for the public's support. we still are have much work to do in terms of foot searches within the city limits themselves to make sure that we've found everybody that needs assistance and needs help. that, i'm sure will go on not only today but beyond. so very grateful for the health that we've been given, very grateful for the governor's response and for the state's response. it would be overwhelming, i think, without knowing that we had those resources coming as well. so i don't want to step away without saying our first priority is with the families that have lost people. i'm just proud of the men and women that have stepped forward here to help those folks in need. >> last we'll hear from the kentucky state police working through the night in every region that have been impacted. one way i was getting my information in realtime, so it's -- >> trooper burgess. >> please. >> thank you, governor. >> the state police has been working very closely with all of our local agencies here to assist in any way we can. we are working to get communications working for all of our local agencies together. our primary focus right now is preserving as many lives as we can. we are asking that anybody who is not an emergency responder, if they are currently in a safe location to remain there and not enter into areas where we are working so that we can get the help to the people that need it as quickly as possible. we appreciate all the support from our local agencies that are here to help us from the surrounding counties and beyond, and again, we're just here to try and preserve as many lives as possible. >> thank you. all right. we'll open it up for questions, if you just start by who the question is for. we want to make sure the public is getting the very best information possible. >> all right, you've been listening to governor andy beshear recap what has happened in kentucky. according to the governor he believes the death toll could be between 70 and 100 people. however, he did talk about the big challenge is debris removal, which of course will reveal what exactly that death toll could be. there's damage in at least 17 counties according to the governor. they have been in touch with the department of homeland security, and of course fema. we understand that power is out for several miles. they have activated the national guard there in kentucky. the chief of police of mayfield, this is one of the counties that was hardest hit talked about their entire fleet of cars being destroyed. they've outsourced ambulances, we learned, from other states to assist. so it's really quite something to see a state's infrastructure destroyed. the federal government is assisting as much as possible at this time according to the authorities we just heard and court press secretary jen psaki that said that president biden has been briefed on this and is working with governors to see what they need. again, this tornado did not just hit kentucky. there were 32 tornados that hit arkansas, illinois, kentucky, tennessee, and missouri. so through the south and midwest. i'm joined again with nbc news meteorologist bill karins. he's back with us. bill, you just heard the press conference i did. as you heard, debris removal is a huge deal there. i can imagine, tell me what's the weather expected to be in kentucky today because if there are storms, that's going to greatly hinder these rescue efforts. >> first off, how was the fire chief so calm and collected? i mean, he said that they had to extricate themselves out of their firehouse. like, they couldn't even get their engines out, and then after their destroyed building they finally cleared out to go. they had four fires after the tornado passed and they had to then go put those fires out let alone all the search and rescue stuff that's been going on all night long, and the guy was like cool and collected as a cucumber. it was unbelievable what he's been through. he must be in shock. yeah, and from the governor, you know, he mentioned it's up to 70 fatalities, and he said likely by the end somewhere 90 to 100, the number could easily grow to. we quickly threw together this list from the help of our weather producers. this is the deadliest tornados in kentucky history. the deadliest before this storm was march 27th, you have to go all the way back to 1890 when 76 people were killed by a tornado. so we're already second on this list for the deadliest tornados ever in kentucky history. we should easily be number one unfortunately by the end of this day. the governor mentioned he's heading to other towns. it's not just mayfield, every little red icon shows you where a tornado was reported, most of these were strong tornados. i saw some pictures near bowling green of destruction, dawson springs where the governor said he's heading to next. that was one of the areas under that tornado emergency last night. i've been waiting to see how bad the pictures were. about 5,000 people live there. the wheels are in motion. all the damage is done. there's still people to be rescued. i'm sure there's people to be found. there's houses and properties that aren't in the same location that they were. the homes were destroyed, just a slab of concrete left behind. and that's kind of what we're dealing with at this point. it's just the historic nature of this. a fellow meteorologist said that 1950 there was an ef-5 tornado in southern illinois. we have had december powerful tornados, but what makes this event so rare and unprecedented is not only did we have an extremely strong tornado, we don't know yet ef-4, ef-5, but it was potentially on the ground for 250 miles. now, we don't know if that's continuous or not, if it was bouncing up and down or not, but a lot of it it was on the ground, so historic and sad just so many people need so much help with only two weeks to go before christmas. i know walmart just made a commitment. they're bringing in water and supplies and food for people. there's just residents that are going to need a lot of help in the days ahead. it's winter. it's a whole different dynamic than typically spring or summertime tornados. i mean, people need heat from their houses. they need shelters. they can't just live in your house without power. very difficult and extremely sad situation. >> it is very sad. you think about -- because i know you said there was warning that you knew that these tornados were coming. but you know, when you give these warnings to people, especially in some communities and you know, where are people expected to go. not everyone has a place that they can shelter, not everyone has reliable transportation to get to said place, so this is truly devastating and i definitely appreciate your point about power and the holidays and how cold it could get, and the heroism of our emergency responders who they themselves were impacted by these tornad and still were able to like you said, extricate themselves and 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joining me now is errin haines editor at large for the 19th and melanie campbell, my long-time friend, president of the national coalition on black civic participation and black women's round table. so happy to have you ladies with me. melanie, i want to go with you first. you were part of a meeting that the vice president had with a round table with black women where it was shut the door, let's have some real talk and talk about how black women can be her ambassadors in some of these communities. tell me about that meeting. >> first i have to say, congratulations and happy anniversary to you. >> thank you. >> for all you do to keep folks informed in telling our stories. i want to first say thank you for all you do. well, monday we met -- it was a follow-up meeting, tiffany, from the july 16th meeting we had with vice president harris around voting rights, and so it was a part of our black women allies work we've been doing collectively with now over 60 organizations and just pushing for voting rights and economic justice and reproductive justice, and so many issues that we're facing, but the meeting focused some on getting an update on where things were. we of course pushed for the biden/harris administration to do more to get us across the finish line with federal voting rights reform. that was front and center. we also talked about -- got an update from her about some of the things that they are utilizing. we talk about whole government approach. so they gave us an update about what the department of housing and urban development is doing to help provide access. talking about 3,000 local housing authorities that can help people through the help america vote act, what can be done through department of education to provide access to the ballot for students, for instance, and then what can be done for returning citizens out of the department of corrections. those were some of the things, and then we also discussed issues around -- it was the day before the maternal health summit that she was leading and several of the women in the room who were actively involved in that we talked about that impact around things around fibroids and how it impacts black women and other kinds of things around maternal health. and we also talked about build back better and the need to keep that. but then we also talked about how we feel that she needs to get out there more. now, she is a part of an administration, and she can't get ahead of the president, we understand that, but also ways that we thought that we could help in getting the word out because she's doing a lot of good work and people aren't hearing about that. >> right. and errin, you and i talked about this the last time you were on the show. look, even this meeting, it didn't get a lot of coverage, you know, "politico" ironically was one of the outlets who covered it, ""vanity fair"," but you know, "politico" this article on her blue tooth choices. i mean, this is really -- i can't tell you -- i've never had a conversation with anybody and this was the conversation they were having. i also don't remember reading a single article about how mike pence communicated on the phone. what's your take on all of this, errin? >> a couple of things, tiffany, happy showversary to you, it's your one year mark. did you notice how melanie was talking about how much of that meeting was focused on how the vice president is actually governing and using folks like melanie and others who really have a direct pipeline to black voters who really are hearing what they're saying on the ground about the vice president, about this administration getting the message out to them so they can get that message to voters. what we're talking about here is really a question of perception versus reality, and if people, particularly black voters feel like they're not seeing her or getting to know her, that is yes, an issue. the solution is on her office in part, but it is also on this political press that demand she reset while they continue as usual. they're much more focused on her use of wire headphones over blue tooth than maternal mortality or even her comments on voting rights at this week's summit on democracy where she was backing up president biden. she put out a statement on that abortion ruling while president biden hasn't uttered the word abortion which is something we covered. we at the press definitely have an obligation to hold the powerful accountable but headlines like the op-ed that peggy noonan wrote in "the wall street journal" about harris neating to get serious isn't an example -- who was uneasy, the press, conservatives? is it her fault that democrats elected somebody in their 70s who may or may not run for re-election. how is vice president harris failing? were immigration, and maternal mortality supposed to be fixed in less than a year by the second most powerful person in the country? people like melanie and others who support this vice president really came together even before she took office to guard against the racist and sexist narratives that were out there. i mean, peggy noonan talked about about her needing to be chastened and humbled. that plays into an up itty black person trope. just wrote a column comparing the coverage of former president trump and president biden. wouldn't it be interesting to see a side by side comparison of the coverage that the former vice president mike pence has gotten compared to president harris. we know after she became the nominee last year, she was at the center of an online misinformation campaign specifically aimed at her race, her gender, and her eligibility to serve as president. >> yeah, and you know, look, peg guy noonan worked for ronald reagan let me remind our vowers, so let us now revisit peggy noonan's, the administration she worked for. it's insulting to say kamala harris might want to get serious, i think peggy noonan might want to get relevant and figure out what's happening in today's society. her opinions are antiquated. it's not abnormal for staff to leave after a year of a white house. these folks work really hard, they take pay cuts. they go and they work for a year, and they go and work in the private sector. this is not the scandal that i think some beltway press is making it out to be. unfortunately this is a conversation that needs a bigger chunk of time that we don't have this morning because of the breaking news with the tornado. thank you for your warm wishes and thank you for joining us this morning. coming up, finally, the police are on trial, but will anything change? that's coming up next. stay tuned. that's coming up next. stay tuned ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list event. no one can deliver your mom's homemade short ribs. that's why instacart helps deliver the ingredients. and you add the love. are you tired of clean clothes that just don't smell clean? downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters keep your laundry 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handgun for her taser. here to discuss is the principal of black to the future action fund and co-creator of black lives matter, alisa gar ser, and charles coleman, i think making his "the cross connection" debut. thank you both for joining me on a very busy morning with lots of breaking news. charles, i want to start with you because i want to get to some of the things that happened in the trial. obviously officer potter says she mistook her handgun for her taser. is that a reasonable thing, and even if she did, does it matter in the eyes of the law? >> well, tiffany good morning and happy showversray and thank you for having me. i think it does matter. yes, it does matter in the eyes of the law because what you're talking about in that instance is a question of intent. in this case what people need to be focusing on is the jury. why i say that is because the question of reasonableness, the question of intent is really likely going to come down to how that jury processes kim potter's life experiences and what she says on the stand. the racial makeup of that jury is absolutely germane to what the outcome is going to be. what we find reasonable as people of color, as black people in america in terms of the actions of law enforcement is not necessarily going to be the same as what people who are not from our community and who do not share our experiences find to be reasonable. that's going to be a huge factor in terms of how the jury processes reasonableness, which is going to speak to intent and ultimately the charges that she's facing. >> alysia, that's in the eyes of the law. i'm looking at all of these upcoming cases, you have rayshard brooks in atlanta, this ronald green case out of louisiana is devastating. i mean, this man was beaten to death according to the autopsy by louisiana troopers who he could be heard saying i'm scared. i'm your brother. it's heartbreaking. i can hardly talk about it. one of the officers boasts that he beat the ever living out of him. it's disgusting. you have atatiana jefferson, that trial is coming up. it just seems like there's this endless loop of hashtags and trials. what is it going to take to change? because i don't know that this is over, and it does seem like if these trials are televised they get more attention. we have to remember there are trials happening all across this country that are not televised. >> absolutely, and first of all, happy showversary, tiffany, it's so good to be with you today. i'm so proud of you, congratulations. >> thank you. >> you know, here's what it's going to take. number one, what we know is that police officers are not being held accountable when they commit crimes in our communities and at the black futures lab and the black to the future action fund, we conducted the largest survey of black people in america in 156 years, and what we found that black communities across the country in all 50 states from all demographics, what black communities wanted to see is police being held accountable when they commit crimes in our communities. and so that is why it's so important to pass legislation like the justice in policing act, which would have ended qualified immunity for officers who are acting above and beyond the law. that is why it's so important for us to set a precedent at the federal government level that police officers who are sworn to protect and serve must do so and that when they do not do that in our communities that they will be held accountable. but as long as police officers have all kinds of rigged rules that allow them to wiggle out of accountability, then we're going to continue to see cases like this across the country. we're going to continue to leave it up to jury makeups, right, as to whether or not people think the police should be held accountable when they commit crimes in our communities. it's deeply important for black communities to see this kind of change coming from the biden harris administration, a strong statement that police cannot act above the law. but of course we also need to see this kind of change in cities and states across the country where most policy around policing is actually developed. and i'll just say this, tiffany, it's been a tough year as it relates to not just policing, right, but also vigilanteism s and my hope going into -- you know, as we close the first year of this administration is that the biden harris administration make an unwavering statement that they are committed, in fact, to ensuring that this country doesn't careen off of a cliff, that they will use everything in their power and influence to make sure that we restore the sanctity of our democracy and of our country, and part of what that means is that black communities and all communities have to live in such a way where our rights are respected, where our dignity is protected, and where nobody gets to act above and beyond the law. >> absolutely. and i just want to say that i wrote about the last poll that you did, black futures lab in my book, so and i got a sneak preview on this poll. it's quite fascinating. i hope people take a chance to look at that. i want to come back to you for something in the daunte wright case. daunte wright was initially stopped for an air freshener hanging from his rearview mirror. what's the crime here? >> the crime in that case is basically that there's an obstruction or something that is potentially obstructing or distracting to your rear view as a motorist. it is an offense that can result you being pulled over. there are a number of other offenses he is alleged to have committed that once he was pulled over. the officer was in training who made the decision to pull him over, and that was at kim potter's sort of behest, and she basically cosigned that. i want to really quickly go back to a point that alysia made. i think it's really imperative that this administration is paying attention to what goes on in these trials. there is the perception that this administration among black voters has not done enough to speak to the issues that are germane to our community. so when you talk about protection of voting rights and registration, when you talk about police reform and the fact that that conversation has virtually died, these trials have much greater implications than the verdicts in the actual states and communities where they are. so it's important that we also understand the political impact that they can have. >> absolutely, and you know, we'll have to have you both back because unfortunately there are going to be other trials that we'll have to discuss. thank you so much to alysia garza and charles coleman for joining us and keeping it condensed. coming up tomorrow, former attorney general eric holder and former senior adviser to president obama, don't miss it. thanks to you at home for watching. now stay tuned for alex witt and the latest breaking news on those deadly tornados that hit overnight. we'll see you next week on "the cross connection." cross connection." ♪♪ a very good day to all of you here from msnbc world headquarters in new york. a somber day, though, for many in this country as we approach high noon here in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome, everyone, to "alex witt reports." we're talking about the breaking news. dozens of devastating tornados carving a path of destruction across at least six states in the south and midwest and that threat is not over yet. with 12 million americans under risk across the southeast for severe weather today, at least 36 tornados are believed to have touched down across arkansas, illinois, kentucky, missouri, mississippi, and tennessee. one of the strongest tornados potentially traveled over 200 miles from arkansas to kentucky. here's a look at the damage today in bowling green. weather officials have confirmed an ef-2 tornado hit there with winds up to 120 miles an hour. at least 70 people are believed to be dead in just the state of kentucky alone. however, officials say the final figure could end up being closer to 100. we've got some drone video to show you of the total devastation of a candle factory, this in mayfield kentucky believed to be one of the hardest hit areas. in just the last hour, kentucky governor andy beshear gave an update from that devastated city. >> this has been the most devastating tornado event in our state's history. and for those that have seen it, what it's done here in graves county and

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