mark short is notable because he was chief of staff to mike pence and was with the then vice president on that day when you'll recall the rioters were hunting for mike pence. >>. [ chanting hang mike pence ] mark short was also reported to be in key meetings just days before the insurrection when trump team lawyer john eastman was trying to convince pence to subvert the process of certifying joe biden's election. "the washington post" reports that two days before the riot, eastman quote made the case for pence to act during a meeting in the oval office with trump, pence, and pence's chief of staff mark short. recently pence spoke about his decision not to turn over the 2020 election. >> i don't know if president trump and i will ever see eye to eye on that day or that many of our most ardent supporters will agree with my decision that day. but i know i did the right thing. >> meanwhile, the committee is still working to get information from other witnesses because not all people react the same way to a subpoena evidently. mike flynn and nicholas luna were supposed to give a deposition. they have been postponed. alex smith, the aforementioned john eastman, and former trump aide jason miller are supposed to give their depositions. as all of this unfolds, new reporting from politico says a former d.c. national guard official has sent the january 6th committee a memo accusing two army generals of lying to congress about the military's response or lack of it to the capitol riot. nbc news has obtained that very memo in which colonel earl matthews writes that generals charles flynn who happens to be michael flynn's brother, and lieutenant general repeatedly misrepresented, under stated or misled the house oversight committee and the defense department's inspector general. the memo also says these two generals misled congress about the guard's ability to respond to the insurrection. nbc news has reached out to both generals for comment. they have not responding. notably, however, a u.s. army spokespersons tells nbc news the following quote the actions on january 6th have been well documented and reported on and general flynn, and general piatt have been open, honest, and thorough in their sworn testimony with congress and d.o.d. investigators. it would be interesting to know how an army spokesperson knows that to be true. we also learned today that justice department has sued texas over republican-drawn voting maps. d. o.j. suit alleges that new congressional and state house maps disenfranchised latinos and other minorities in violation of the federal voting rights act. meanwhile, the president hours away from a critical meeting with russian president vladimir putin, they're going to hold a video conference tomorrow. think of it as a kind of high stakes face time, and it comes amid growing concern russia could be preparing to invade ukraine. biden is prepared to tell putin that there would be consequences should russia take military action. >> we have been working in lock step and in coordination with congress with countries, our nato partners with transatlantic partners to prepare a range of steps that could be detrimental to their economy. you can call that a threat. you can call that a fact. you can call that preparation, whatever you want to call it. >> the president's also taking a tougher stance against china notably today, announcing a diplomatic boycott of the winter olympic games to be held in beijing in february. the athletes all still go obviously, but this means no delegation, no senior or junior u.s. officials from the president on down will be there in attendance. with that, let's bring in our lead off guests on this monday night. yamiche alcindor, white house coronet, and moderator of washington week on pbs. robert costa, national political reporter for the "washington post," also happens to be author of the "new york times" best seller, "peril," along with another up and coming author bob woodward, and a.b. stoddard, journalist and, editor for real clear politics. thanks for coming on, gang, great to have you. robert i would like to begin with this from your reporting. give our audience the significance of a guy like mark short cooperating with this committee. >> think back to that night, january 5th, 2021, the eve of the insurrection, vice president pence getting battered verbally by trump and the oval office, you need to do this for me, mike, you need to push this to the house of representatives, listen to john eastman, read that memo, and who's there outside the oval office when pence comes out, mark short, who's there at the capitol during the insurrection, mark short. this is someone who could provide the january 6th committee with an inside, inside view of the pressure campaign that they need to decide at the committee and the department of justice, was it a conspiracy to overturn an election, and perhaps even commit fraud against the united states. he had a front row seat. >> i have to follow up, bob, with a question about loyalty, and that is we have seen so many of these types. how much of a trump supplicant is he? >> he's intriguing for the people on capitol hill for this reason. he's not a trump person in the way you think about mark meadows or jim jordan or even mike pence himself. short comes out of the conservative movement. he's someone who's worked for the koch brothers over the years. he did not make his bones in politics by working for donald trump. and because of that, there's a sliver of possibility, no guarantee, that he cooperates in a way that's a little bit different than the traditional trump type who's come out of this white house. >> got it. these days you have to ask, yamiche, over to you, liz cheney said publicly that some of their hearings would be public and televised, is short the kind of witness they would like for that sort of thing? >> it will depend very much on what he has to say and how forthcoming he is. i will tell you that based on my reporting at the time, the people in the vice president's office were very incensed, and very disturbed by former president trump's actions to try to overturn the election, to try to force former vice president pence into nullifying the election. there were people that i talked to at the time who told me that they were very concerned that the president had just gone too far, even for them who had been loyal to the president. mark short is the kind of person, as bob just said, that was really a front row seat person. he was someone who was in the meetings, who understood the thinking. he was someone who would have been very familiar with the communication between the vice president and the president, the sort of also back dealing and pressure campaign that the former president was putting on former vice president mike pence, as he was going up and nearing january 6th and nearing his role in certifying the election. i also think he would be interesting to talk to because, and hear from, if he is forthcoming about the sort of decision that vice president pence makes, which is when to go back after all of that, after he had to run for his life after the crowd had been chanting to hang him. he goes back the same day, and says we will finish our work today, not tomorrow, not next week, on january 6th we're going to do this. it would be interesting for lawmakers to ask him, why was that an important decision, what was going through the vice president's mind. that said, we have to remind people, vice president pence has said people should stop talking about january 6th, it is blown out of proportion. it's a balance that mark should be could be leaning toward. it depends on what information and how disturbed he is personally about what happened on january 6th. >> great points in there yamiche, and a.b., over to you, how is this likely to land within the republican party that is also to say within trump world, within the semicircle of genuflect ors that make up the republican party. >> mark short knows everything there is to know, and the committee is going to hear the a lot of detail about the pressure campaign leading up to that day, and the terrifying details of that day and the thinking of the vice president once he committed to remaining at the capitol complex, refusing to leave, and mark short himself was dismissed from access to the white house by president trump after january 6th, seen as, you know, some kind of disloyal enemy, just like the vice president that he served as chief of staff to. so the idea of him testifying has got to be making them incredibly uncomfortable. the kinds of things he can reveal, the kind of things that he knows he has cooperated extensively with writers of these tell-all books, and he obviously is not a trump inner circle loyalist. he is on the outside now. he definitely does not want to impair mike pence's path to the nomination in 2024 that mike pence believes he has. with that said, i think he's going to be a very helpful witness to the committee. >> robert costa, let's talk about john eastman, he has indicated he'll take the 5th before the committee. he did go on fox news. let me play that exchange for you. we'll discuss on the other side. >> bennie wants to presume people guilty rather than innocent. they're shredding the entire constitution, and complaining it's us: >> why comply, honestly, at this point, if it's totally fake, a show trial, which it is, then why would the rest of us have any kind of obligation to play along with it honestly? >> well, we shouldn't, but congress has the power to issue criminal contempt. normally those don't go anywhere in such charades as this but the department of justice is fully in line, and you know, they have already brought one criminal indictment against one of the people that refused to comply. >> so this is the guy who wrote the memo, and engaged however briefly in some aspirational unserious law, and robert, it sounds like two things could be true at the same time. it sounds like the committee is getting through to these witnesses. it also sounds to all of us watching, like the committee is really fighting the clock here. >> what a country. a constitutional lawyer can decide not to testify before congress but can go on fox news and talk about the same issues. this is where this committee stands. it's facing challenges in terms of participation. and this is also why mark short matters. when bob woodward and i were reporting on our book, we discovered the eastman memo. and this was two pages, six parts, what many people call a blueprint for a coup. mark short was in the meeting with john eastman, in the oval office, january 4th, 2021, where we detail trump is telling pence in front of eastman, you have to listen to eastman, this is before the famous one-on-one meeting the next day on january 5th. all this is to say mark short was in the room with these men as these discussions were taking place, and if john eastman won't participate and if you're a reporter of an investigator, you have to find out information from other people who were there. >> yamiche, what's the advancer moving our scope a bit overseas, what's the advancer on this video conference between biden and putin tomorrow? >> well, the white house and white house officials have been saying that this is really about the president going into a conversation where one on one diplomacy is top of mind, and still the best way this administration thinks of handling our relationship with russia. one thing of course that's going to be on that agenda is going to be russia's actions toward ukraine. white house officials as well as biden administration officials have said over and over again that the u.s.'s loyalty and their backing of ukraine is unshakable. that it is something that will be sort of locked in. that being said, the big question is what does that mean for the relationship and the actions that russia has been taking towards ukraine. we have seen sort of a military build up there. my sense is the biden administration does not want to say there would be american troops deployed but there would be possibly a threat of sanctions being done, so i think that's going to be a top of mind thing there. of course there are all sorts of other issues including the fact that russia has been trying to push nato as well as the united states not to admit other countries to the organization. that's something that the president has pushed back on, so there are going to be a lot of things. this is really in some ways a meeting with no direct deliverables, other than the fact they want russia not to invade ukraine. it will be interesting to watch. as you said, it's a high stakes face time that we're all going to be looking to see what comes out of it. >> a.b., i note your latest work as our viewers should too on the rush for the exits in congress, right about now, last one out , turn out the lights, the latest name tonight was devin nunes, who i don't know if there's an opening at the mensa society branch in his part of california, but the rumor is he's leaving congress to run donald trump's media company which conveniently is already under investigation. a.b., what's going on in congress? >> well, the numbers, brian, right now are at sort of historical average in a midterm cycle, but they don't stand to be much longer. they're going to see a lot more democrats leaving, and likely a few republicans. i spoke to republicans and democrats for this piece, both people who were either leaving or pondering leaving, many of them didn't want to be named. but they basically all said the same thing about what a cesspool congress has become. they don't like to say that when they leave. in a statement they like to say about the honor of serving their constituents and the time they need to spend with their family. this is a year for congress like no other. it's never been this bad. there has never been a more profound divide between the death threats and the sort of celebrity fundraising that people are doing, coming off of partisan attacks. the divide between the honor and opportunity to serve and just how dangerous and depressing and demoralizing it is. these retirements are different, and what it bodes for future congresses and the kind of americans we will attract to service in the years to come who are ready to be hunting and harassed and threatened is quite frightening in terms of who's going to represent us in the people's house. >> it really does for all the wrong reasons nicely sum up where we are as 2021 comes to an end. yamiche alcindor, robert costa, a.b. stoddard, our starting line. >> i want to say thank you one final time. thank you so much for being a great friend and mentor. >> me too, thanks, brian. >> thank you to the three of you. thanks very much, thanks for being the stars of our show. our first break, coming up, david plouffe, tim miller join us, here to talk about the challenges ahead for the president and his party, and they try to pass their social spending program before christmas. how realistic a goal is that really? and later dr. fauci shares some early but not terrible news about omicron, as other experts warn about the immediate threat from our old friend the delta variant. 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passing president biden's build back better act before christmas. we are close, and we will keep going until the job is done. >> it was actually emotional for him, the senate majority leader sounding optimistic there about a key piece of the president's agenda. but as we know, its fate hinges more or less on this guy, democrat on paper from west virginia, you might be shocked to hear he doesn't sound that hopeful right now. >> i have concerns. we're talking about major changes in our tax code. i think my position hasn't changed from what, july, when i gave you all found out about the letter that schumer and i had exchanged and discussed and that was back in august. and just kind of followed that one through, and pretty much i'm in the same place i've always been. >> he has concerns, back with us tonight, david plouffe, former obama campaign manager, and senior adviser to the president, he has concerns, so does tim miller, contributor to the bull work and former communications director for jeb bush, these two distinguished concerned gentlemen, happy to have you on board. david, i need a prediction, does the bill pass? does anything like it go to the president's signature by christmas? >> first of all, brian, thank you for the invaluable role you have played for all of us in these challenging times. we'll miss you. >> thank you. >> listen, i don't think it's going to be easier in january. so i think there's no reason to wait. either this is going to pass and if it's going to pass, i think it's better for the people who would get the benefits. i think it would be better for the democratic party, better for joe manchin, you know, to lift the cloud. so do it over the next couple of weeks. if it slips to january, i don't think it makes it anymore likely. the areas of disagreement are known, the areas of compromise are known. the sooner you can get that done, a, you get benefits out to people, which is most important substantively, but no one knows what's in the package, we have talked about big dollar amounts and social welfare bills, you need to get into the nitty-gritty, district by district, who's in it, who they will benefit and who's paying for it. >> tim miller, when i was in local news in new york, i covered it seemingly once a week, labor negotiations. new york city municipal workers strikes that would go down to the wire, and watching some of the better labor negotiators, i realized something about deadlines. deadlines push you into a corner. when did the democrats become, tim, such deadline enthusiasts. they're always drawing lines in the sand, then lines in the sand move with the sand, it seems t me. >> i don't know if it's just a democratic problem. this might be a d.c. brain worms problem, that everybody has decided we can't pass anything in election year. you only have one year to work. we have to put another deadline up of getting this done before christmas. the actual deadline for a reconciliation bill isn't until next september, and so the democrats, i understand why you want to decide what you're going to pass and have an agenda and campaign on it next year. practically speaking it's probably before september. there's plenty of time, and look, joe manchin, i know this isn't going to make people happy but joe manchin is the only vote that matters, and the democrats only got 50 votes in the senate, and so unless joe manchin is going to change the filibuster, which he's not, the democrats can come to terms with the fact that joe manchin is the only vote that matters or they can continue to, you know, sort of hit themselves in the face, complaining about joe manchin, and the latter doesn't seem to be serving any more purpose at this point. so i don't think pressure from the left, attacking joe manchin from the left, this helps joe manchin. i was in west virginia at a funeral, talking about republicans who were there, and believe it or not, he's like the one example of a person who can cross party lines these days. they liked the fact that joe manchin was the one holding the line against the aoc spending bill. if the democrats want to pass something, they need to figure out what joe manchin can sell in west virginia, and then they need to pass. otherwise i think there's a lot of other stuff they can be doing, selling the infrastructure bill, dealing with covid, kitchen table issues and, they can move forward and make a case on that, defending democracy, throw that on top as well. >> david plouffe, dramatic reading from axios, and the quote is as follows, democrats are privately concerned nationalizing the 2022 midterms with emotionally charged issues from critical race theory to donald trump's role in the january 6th insurrection. wait for it, will hamstring their ability to sell the local benefits of president biden's build back better agenda. i would add to that, david, for as much tisk tisking as there is among democrats in washington for things like josh hawley's masculinity initiative, joke if you wish, i'm here to tell you as sure as i'm sitting here, as sure as you're almost in bed, and we'll get you there shortly, that's going to be a thing, too. >> yeah, well, first of all, from a macro standpoint, so you think about 11 months from now as people are voting, where the pandemic is and we all hope it's endemic and not pandemic, whether the economy is not just statistically but in terms of people feeling better, in terms of their individual family situation, i think bills getting passed that people can understand democrats did some things, and just as importantly republicans opposed them, the right track, wrong track, joe biden's approval rating, you're not going to improve that through tactics. people in individual districts have to run a race to get to 50% of the vote. i think republican turnout should be high again as we saw in 2020, and you're really going to have to put a lot of votes in the bag. i think democrats who are running for the house or the senate, they just need to basically stick to their own knitting and sell the things they voted for. attack their opponent they think they're opposed to that they think would benefit. the things that would improve the democrats' national political standing are not a tweet or an ad or a new talking point. it's the reality, and if the reality gets better, a lot of good things follow for democrats, and if it doesn't, it's going to be a painful election cycle. >> both of our guests are going to stay with us over this break. just ahead when we continue this conversation, he's been saying the quiet part out loud for years, and he doesn't have to say the word to receive the loyalty of an entire political party. e loyalty of an entire political party. feel stuck and need a loan? move to sofi and feel what it's like to get your money right. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ move to a sofi personal loan. earn $10 just for viewing your rate — and get your money right. ♪ get help managing your money for the life -- and years -- ahead. 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loyalty. four years later, trump appears to have the loyalty of nearly every elected republican in the country. the atlantic article out entitled trump's next coup has already begun, gop state operatives are stripping power from local officials and are quote fine tuning a legal argument that purports to allow state legislators to override the choice of the voters. still with us for this important segment are david plouffe and tim miller. tim, for all the existential reasons, democrats' attentions were toward republicans trying to monkey with the casting of votes, but the efforts to monkey with the counting of the votes, that is what can turn elections on their ear. >> no doubt about that, brian, i do, just before, i was a little hurt i didn't get asked about josh hawley's masculinity initiatives, i look at that brownser on the former president's face and think about his calloused hands and that limp fist, and anyway, you sometimes just got to put it in my wheel house, just like did plouffe get that one. anyway, i can answer this one as well. electoral count act. the democrats, as they move past, you know, look, there's a lot on their plates and republicans are standing in the way of everything. i have nothing but sympathy. i think the democrats can use that and run against republicans, but in addition to bbb, in addition to the pandemic, they have to move to electoral count act next year, and burton gelman's atlantic article should be another wake up call in a long line of them. i think we first wrote about this back in june, and it is an extremely out of date law, and the way that we count ballots, count votes, count electoral votes in this country, the wording is literally from another century, and it's not precise. it leaves a lot of room for troublemakers, and there are a lot of troublemakers on the republican side that are going to look for any possible way to succeed when they failed in 2020. the alarm across the democratic caucus in the senate and the house should be high, and it's something they really are going to have to deal with next year. >> david plouffe you have called the article as tim just did, essential reading, what do the democrats do, what can they do, and time is of the essence. >> i think, brian, every american citizen needs to read it. i wouldn't read it at night because you're not going to be able to sleep. it is just essential that the electoral college reform gets passed. i think democrats can also pass some things to make sure it is, you know, as easy to vote as it should be but the most important thing here is that state legislators can't steal the election. so bbb, whether it passes in december or january or february, that is the remaining big piece of legislation, and joe manchin, and kristen sinema and any other democrat who's got concerns about the filibuster has ample opportunity to go to a microphone, and say i didn't want to know a carve out for the filibuster for anyone, but it's pretty clear, and i think this is one problem not just for democrats and republican citizens, they don't believe the republicans will go this far. the stake is not to take them seriously. they plan to gain power and never relinquish it, it's not building roads and bridges and child care and tax credits in an autocracy. this has to get done or four or five years from now, it will be donald trump in power, and hand it off to his son and grandson, and we're not going to recognize the country. this has to get done. permission structure is important. people in politics said they're not going to do something, the question is what is the avenue for them to say, well, i have changed my mind, and pieces like this gelman piece are what you need, which is they have made it very very clear that without any action in congress, they're going to steal the election no matter what happens in '24, and so action has to be taken here. i agree with tim. democrats are dealing with a lot. this is a lot of pressure to put on them. the notion that we can out organize or basically back them off their intended plot. and listen, when somebody engages in a coup attempt, if you allow them to have a second one, that's the one that succeeds, that's what history shows us. >> i hope people are taking notes as you speak. tim, if you'll forgive me for not raising with you the josh hawley projection act of 2021, this is from something you said on social media today. growing up every story i was told about politics treated the ways and means chairmanship as if it were the height of power and influence. nunes is taking a pass on it to run friend ster for bigots, congress' decline in miniature. is the departure of nunes just further proof of trump's sway over all supplicants, tim? >> it's proof of two things. one, just of the power, single parenting, i have a child upstairs. one is the power of the trump social media, this sort of attack on the big tech outlets, that's number one. and the second thing is it just shows the weakness of the fact that the republican congress, they don't have an agenda. they don't want to do anything. why would you stay in congress. if it's a better job to go run a down market social media company than it is to be the chairman of ways and means, that tells you something about the fact that they don't have an agenda. they don't have any desire to do anything. and so i think this is a story about the decline both of congress, but also of the republican party. >> i am old enough to remember wilbur mills about whom you would never say he was chairman of ways and means without the powerful chairman of the powerful ways and means committee. so tim, go parent. david, go to bed. gentlemen, go into the night with my great thanks. david plouffe, tim miller have been our guests tonight. two friends of this broadcast. coming up for us, with more omicron detected across the country, doctors offer this reminder as much as we hate to say it, delta is not done with us yet. done with us yet 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less severe or really doesn't cause any severe illness comparable to delta, but thus far, the signals are a bit encouraging regarding the severity. >> so with us for more tonight, thank goodness, dr. nahid bhadelia, an infectious disease physician, founding director of boston university's emerging diseases policy, and research. i'm guessing you want to be encouraged by those words. i also know the business you're in is one where you are constantly cautioning us against jumping to conclusions. >> that's right. and brian, i think the inherent virulence of a pathogen, right, what part of severity of disease is actually caused by a variant is really hard to tease apart because it's also a function of the human that it's infecting, right, their age and medical conditions as well as a function of the health care systems, and even though this is a promising signal, i think that what would be great to see is to see if this continues in south africa as more people are getting infected, unfortunately, with omicron as well as whether we see a similar trend in other countries where omicron is taking on. and i say that partly with caution because we're also as you said, going into a winter surge with delta, and you know, when you get infected now, you don't know if it's omicron or delta, but the chances are very high it's delta, and we already know delta is causing a lot of destruction so vaccination and those measures are important. >> we think that omicron may be more transmissible. we are still waiting for, as you mentioned, proof or disproof of its virulence. do we think we have the right formulation for boosters with omicron knocking on our door? >> yeah, and i would say there's a stronger signal than even last week when we talked about that transmissibility because the cases are increasing in south africa, and you're seeing, you know, cluster of cases where tons of people have become infected from a primary index person who has omicron. i would say for the booster part, you know, we're still waiting for that laboratory data, but the reason you see myself and many other infectious disease docs and immunologists say we are going to be protected against infectious or severe diseases because no other variant has completely reduced or eradicated the protection against severe disease and death, and that's why those vaccines are so important, and the boosters from what we know now, these boosters are increasing not just your antibodies but more and more studies are coming out that they're giving you a much more mature immune response. that might be helpful particularly to secure, you know, a new threat from the variant, for example, but we won't know until the laboratory data from vaccination studies come out in the next week or so. >> there's a guy you and i discussed days ago when you were last on, i want to play his most recent comments tonight, the former fda commissioner, scott gottlieb who full disclosure is a member of the board of pfizer but made some very interesting comments along these lines. we'll discuss on the other side. s we'll discuss on the other side. delta is the immediate risk. and the tragic thing is there is a lot of people who are going to get infected with delta even still, and they may find that that immunity they have acquired through that delta infection isn't going to be protective against omicron. i worry about states that have low vaccination rates, high delta exposure and are confident right now or over confident because their prevalence has declined and that describes a lot of states in the south right now that could be vulnerable to omicron because they're relying a lot on delta immunity. >> that's an interesting point to a layperson like me that kind of delta immunity in a world, especially without vaccines is not going to leave you in good stead with omicron approaching? >> and south africa is actually already shown data on that, you know, what they have shown is that people who had prior infection in this wave they're seeing three times higher rates in reinfection of people who just had infection induced immunity. what we know is even though you do get some protection from having an infection before that you really get that bigger boost and more uniform increased immunity if you get the vaccine on top as well. there are many states where vaccinations rates are low, they think i got an infection, i don't need a vaccination, you're seeing a higher need for that group to get their vaccines, and i would say, i'm going to make that last push again, which i'm doing with all of my friends and family is to get the booster. i honestly think even if you have had two doses, that third dose, we think, is going to be quite protective. get your vaccinations if you haven't been vaccinated. get your booster if you've been vaccinated. >> that is indeed the case, a public health expert for good reason. dr. nahid bhadelia has been our guest again tonight, doctor, thank you so very much. 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