two of our guests joining us tonight. and ruth wrote this masterful piece in the washington post that one, i want to read, it offered the option of listening to it. so i of course will always take that option so i can do some other things. and i went to press the listen button. and it shows you the number of minutes. and i thought it would be like six and a half. but it was almost an hour. something like that. there must be some mistake. and no. it is that long. and it is just a masterful encapsulation of basically my whole adult life of watching the supreme court and what has happened to it. and it is an excellent way to get through a workout, i discovered. and read by ruth in her own voice. then you get some high priced actor to do it. it really is masterful. it really ramps up to tomorrow perfectly. >> ruth's genius, and when you hear tonight you can tell her that if she doesn't feel like reading the next one, i hereby volunteer, because i love reading everything she writes. i would love to do it. >> so rachel, we are starting off tonight with some breaking news that has just been released by federal court in washington d.c. of an fbi interrogation confession by one of the january 6th attackers. and this is the guy who is on video giving electric shocks to officer mr. fanone. electric shops that he thought would kill him. he eventually had a heart attack from what was going on in that video. we have now just pulled into the control room, getting ingested as we speak, some of that video of that fbi discussion. we are going to lead with that tonight. >> that is great, i had seen the ruling from that which had to be released today. we have been waiting for when it was going to come out. i'm really glad you got it. >> thank you rachel. well as rachel just said, judge amy ordered the release of the fbi interrogation video of defendant daniel rodriguez who was seen on video attacking officer michael fanone with a taser. and repeatedly giving officer fanone electric shocks that officer fanone believed were going to kill him. here is some of that video, of the fbi questioning of this defendant on march 31st. this was just released minutes ago. >> what do you want me to tell you? that i chased him, yes? ? >> why did you tasing. i don't know. i'm sorry. i don't know. he is a human being. i would never kill him. and he is not a bad guy. he's just doing his job. >> but why would you go up there with a taser? why would you take that taser that was given to you from your friends and tourism? >> it wasn't given to me by friends, it was given to me by strangers. i swear to god, it is not the same taser. i swear to god, i'm not trying to protect them. >> we are ingesting more of that video as we speak. we will have more of it in a moment. we are leading off our discussion tonight with ryan j. reilly, the senior justice for washington post. ryan you've been covering this, these cases, these defendants. you knew this video was coming. how long is the video? how long is the interrogation? what else do we learn in it? >> the interrogations fans about three hours. and what is nice, is that we already have this transcript that we go through that plays out exactly how this all unfolded. and we could sort of reference that as this video has been released. there have been a bunch of key moments that i have been interested in. one of them, very early on is that this took place about a month after danny rodriguez had been identified. after he was identified by online split. so about a month after our story run, that is when the fbi went to pick him up. and they actually used that fact that he already been identified in a another story, to escort him to the interrogation. a lot of people were telling the danny rodriguez stories, were anti-fascist. they were saying that danny rodriguez stories, and he had to basically come back that. we basically danny rodriguez spilled his guts here and that is really what we see on this video unfolding today. and i think overall there is this sort of ongoing theme that we see in a lot of these january six pieces. there is a lot of rhetoric that we see from a lot of these capital defendants at the beginning. and then on the back end of it, when the consequences come, when they are interviewed by the fbi, or when they are sentenced by a federal judge, suddenly we see them breakdown. and that sort of falls a little bit. >> yes, they are very different people when they are in custody the. we have more the video right now, this is danny rodriguez saying that trump called us to d.c.. let's listen to this. >> how do you get to january six? what else happens within that period of time? >> trump called us. trump called us to d.c.. >> tell me about that. how did he let you guys know that he was going to come to d.c.? >> if he is the commander in chief and the leader of our country, then he is calling for help. we thought he was calling for help. i thought i was doing the right thing. i had no plans of what was going to happen. i didn't know what was going to happen. no matter what leader. i just felt, what was good intentions, of going and joining. i didn't know that was going to happen. i really didn't. >> so this crying guy is the guy who is saying, i had good intentions. he is on video teasing a police officer. tasing officer fanone repeatedly. >> that is right, and afterwards he actually went back to an airbnb where he was saying with a bunch of other trump supporters. they celebrated, drink beers. a local beer here in d.c.. which features the capitol dome on the front. so that is what they did, they were holding a biden flag, and posing for photos. that is would happen when they did this attack on fanone. he thought he was a patriot. he thought he was doing the right thing. he was listening to him for work. he was listening to all this garbage news online. and he actually literally believe that the election was stolen. which a lot of people do believe. the problem with that is not some of those reporters who believe those ridiculous lies actually are going to do something about it. and that is where we are today. >> let's listen to more of what he told the fbi, including which after trump became president, he tried to join the army, to serve not the united states but to serve america. so trump became president? and then you wanted to join the army in response to him becoming president? >> yes, i actually did. i actually went to go to the recruiting office. and at that time trump was still seen as not a good person. well it was at the very beginning. i volunteer. i did door to door and everything. i came there with my trump shirt, i got some weird looks. and i was confused because, they weren't okay with trump. >> ryan, what is the status of the deadly rodriguez case? >> so there is going to be a hearing next week actually to determine whether or not, basically, this entire interview is going to be admissible in court. then rod greg -- has suggested that the miranda warning that he gets at the very beginning and the forms that he signs advising of his miranda writes wasn't significant in this case. so i think that right now most of the general theory is that it will get through based on what we heard from court from andy berman jackson, just a few weeks back. but really it doesn't matter in danny rodriguez's guilt. what could come to play, is whether he gets domestic terrorists sentencing. because a lot of what he said in their shows the political motivation behind this crime. and it shows what he was trying to accomplish. it shows that this was in fact an act of domestic terrorism. and if that is not allowed to be introduced, that could allow advance mint. once he is actually punished for his crime. he is looking at a lot of time behind bars. he almost killed mike fanone,. >> ryan riley, thank you for staying on this piece. staying dedicated to it. and thank you for joining us tonight, really appreciate it. >> thank you so much for having me. >> well the house select committee investigating the one six, has been considering holding trump white house chief of staff in criminal contempt for defying the committee subpoenas, has now reached a deal. with mark meadows, in which mark meadows will cooperated with the committee. the committee has already received documents from mark meadows including 6000 emails. the chair of the committee, betty thompson, released a statement today saying, quote, mr. meadows has been engaging with the select -- committee through his attorney. he has produced records to the committee and will soon appear for an initial deposition. the committee will continue to assess his degree of compliance with a subpoena after the deposition. today, georgia secretary of state raffensperger, spent over four hours in discussion with the committee. a discussion that reportedly focused on donald trump's phone call to him on january 2nd in which donald trump appears to commit the federal and state crime of election fraud. >> so, look, all i want to do is this, i just want to find 11,780 votes which is one more than we have. >> secretary raffensperger told the atlantic journal-constitution that the trump phone call was an important part of today's discussion with the committee. he said, quote, we talked about that and everything else leading into the election. that was their focus, because that was where the greatest disinformation was foisted upon our nation. that phone call is also the focus of a criminal investigation of possible election fraud by donald trump in fulton county, georgia. we're he has paneled a grand jury to consider that evidence. donald trump's lawyers had a very difficult time in a federal appeals court in washington d.c. today because, as judge patricia miller put it, we have one president at a time under our constitution. private citizen donald trump has brought a lawsuit to try and overruled the decision of the president of the united states, joe biden, to have the federal archives hand over trump white house records to the january six committee for his investigation. one of the judges, on today's judge panel, judge tom g brown jackson, a biden appointee, said this. >> this all boils down to two decisions. to who decides when it is in the best interest of the united states to disclose presidential records? is it the current occupant of the white house or is it the former. is there a circumstance where the former president ever gets to make this kind of call and why should he? >> joining us now is mathew miller an jill wine-banks, prosecutor and the former general counsel of the army. both are msnbc contributors. and jill wine-banks, i want to get your reaction to what you heard in that appeals court discussion today. the one president at a time beat was struck more than once. >> it was, and it started actually in the district court when the decision was made. the judge said that there was only one president. and donald trump is not the president. and it goes back to that. and i think what has to happen is, in terms of the crucial question of what is the interest of the united states, only the current president can decide what is of such national significance that you need to waive any privileged executive privilege or anything else. and under the current presidential records act. under the current supreme court cases of u.s. v. nixon. and gsa versus nixon. i think that the answer is clear that these records will be and should be disclosed. and that the committee can get them and can go about its business quickly. and the decisions need to be made as soon as possible so that they don't run the timeout before congress is not in session anymore. mathew miller, the court has not seen a case like this. they have to nixon cases, one while he was president. and another one he was a former president. so neither one of those cases fit exactly what we are talking about here. and it seemed to me, that the judges spent an enormous amount of time today in a very repetitive discussion simply because this exact case had never passed through the court before. >> yes, that is right lawrence. this really is a case of first impression. this isn't it's a good case -- usually in executive cases you are seeing the core trying to mediate between two branches of government. the executive branch of the legislative branch. they have different priorities, equities. and the courts are asking to intervene to help to bounce those equities. the executive branch at this point representative joe biden, agree that these on documents ought to be turned over. so the documents, as judge ketanja brown said. it is clear that partly from the supreme court cases from the nixon era, that former presidents are owed some sort of difference. they do get to make some sort of-limited insertion. but i think what the judges make clear today is whether there is a dispute between a former president and the current president, only the current president is situated to speak for the executive branch. and i think that they are going to rule unanimously against him. and to jill wine-banks's point. it is important to move quickly. and they have been moving quickly. i think what donald trump did, by trying to win by delay, it only took the district court 23 days, in this case, from the time the case was filed to when it was ruled. and it has only been 20 today since he appealed to the hearing today. i two more weeks before we hear to the decision. we >> jill wine-banks, we see mark meadows and some form of cooperation with the january six committee. he could though, in his testifying to the committee, at certain points, refused to answer questions. he could use the fifth amendment. he could also claim executive privilege in response to individual questions. and that could in itself lead to other legal battles. >> it could lead to delay. i don't think it will change the ultimate outcome. but i agree with what was said which is that we have to wait until after the deposition to evaluate his actual level of cooperation. pardon me if i am a little skeptical but i am glad he has turned over some documents and i am glad that he has agreed to testify because that it least avoids the total contempt of congress by not even showing up. they will show up, but i am suspicious and suspect that he may actually not answer the key questions that we all want to hear the answers to. he is a key player in this. he is with president trump throughout this day. he knows a lot. but as we get the documents, things like phone records, people are saying how big of a deal is that? it is a very big deal. it was crucial evidence. it guided the watergate team to finding the right witnesses to things. because we knew who had been in conference with the president or with other potential defendants. it is very important to get the documents. it is just as important to get mark meadows actual testimony and honest answers. i hope he sees what is ahead of him if he does not really cooperate. and that he will do so. coop erate. anjill wine-banks and mathew miller, thank you for joining our discussion tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and coming up, the rule of six. how six republican appointed justices on the supreme court have shifted the court from conservative too radical. that story is told by ruth marcus, in her brilliant new piece, in the washington post, she joins us in this case, in anticipation of what we will hear tomorrow in the supreme court argument about a mississippi law that bans abortion after 15 weeks of pregnancy. in direct contradiction of roe v. wade. roe v. wade. your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh, yeah. that's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ [ coughing and sneezing ] cold season is back. bounce back fast with alka seltzer plus. with 25% more concentrated power. alka-seltzer plus. ♪ oh, what a relief it is ♪ so fast! also try for cough, mucus & congestion. ♪ ♪ ♪ downy's been taking you back, since way back. with freshness and softness you never forget. feel the difference with downy. firefighter maggie gronewald knows how to handle dry weather... ...and dry, cracked skin. new gold bond advanced healing ointment. restore healthy skin, with no sticky feeling. gold bond. champion your skin. as a dj, i know all about customization. that's why i love liberty mutual. with no sticky feeling. they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? 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our viewers will be listening, they don't have your expertise on what to listen for from each justice. >> lawrence, i think that one of the things that was really magisterial about roots piece was what happens when you got six justices on the court that they are about to get everything they want. and we clearly have three justices that really want everything they want. and they want it now. and then we have three justices and i hesitate to call them the middle, but ruth marcus doesn't call them the minute. we have them who may not have everything they want right this second for fear of looking buzzer. so what i am going to look for is what happens if there is clearly six votes to overturn roe. you have six justices who were, i think, groomed to overturn roe. three of them really want to write the sentence roe v. wade is overruled. and three of them are kind of triangulating against a whole bunch of other interest. so looking for cracks in those three and those three, is what we are looking for. >> and ruth marcus, is there any version of this missive sipping case where the court upholds the mississippi law but doesn't overturn roe v. wade? >> well there is certainly a version where they do not say the magic words that former attorney general says. and i think it is really important through the washington post they said, that is what they really wanted to hear, which is that ravi weight is overruled. but to effectively to undo the effectiveness of the abortion, right and upholding the mississippi law, and disappointing conservatives by failing to say those words, as much as the general will be upset by that, that doesn't mean that that would be a win for the abortion rights side or four liberals on the court or four liberals in the country. it will contain the seeds. it will be a loss. and it is also very important to understand that what is at stake here, and what's took up so much space in my piece is that this is not just about abortion rights. it is the big kahuna for conservatives. but it is about so much more than that. it is about guns. it is about comes to indicate voting rights. it is about all sorts of really complicated issues involving the power of regulatory agencies to protect us against pollution, climate change, dangerous drugs, everything else. so this is the moment conservatives have been waiting for. but this abortion case is just one man's forte shun of that moment. >> ruth marcus, dahlia lithwick, i think you very much for joining us on the eve of this important argument on the supreme court. really appreciated. >> lawrence, thank you so much. >> thank you. and coming up, i'm sure i'm not the only one who speed it up my scheduling of a booster shot for the coronavirus vaccine after the news of the new variant covid-19's discussion in south africa. doctor michael joins us on the new variant next. w variant next for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test. research shows people who take h-i-v treatment every day and get to and stay undetectable can no longer transmit h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems. do not take biktarvy if you take dofetilide or rifampin. tell your doctor about all the medicines and supplements you take, if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have kidney or liver problems, including hepatitis. if you have hepatitis b, do not stop taking biktarvy without talking to your doctor. common side effects were diarrhea, nausea, and headache. if you're living with hiv, keep loving who you are. and ask your doctor if biktarvy is right for you. gordan ramsey if yo this is a cold call! keep loving who you are. nfl teams are turning to cold with tide. will you? 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if you can get the adequate information about this new variant, and go into the lab. can you retool these vaccines to combat the new variant? >> in fact that effort is going out 24/7 right now. what's happening is the companies that make these vaccines are receiving the genetic information about this virus. they are in the lab making the vaccines. they are bringing vaccines forward for studies of people to look at and bring forward for the rest of the immune response -- we also make sure that they are safe and the fda will consider these as strain change. just like we do with the vaccine every year, we exchanged one influenza ex vaccine for another. the fda will take this initial data and use it to approve the vaccines for use. this whole process can take anywhere between three and a half to four months. we are gonna have to use the vaccines we have now, and use them effectively to address this issue. michael osterholm >> thank you very much for joining us tonight, we appreciate it. >> coming up the most confidential -- is not trying to pick up a few million dollars. first putin other than have just people murdered, but has the dismembered. eric christians blew a search for blood word in saudi arabia, coming up next! coming up next coming up next son. ace your immune support with centrum. now with a new look! what makes salonpas arthritis gel so good for arthritis pain? 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next year. joining us now is ben rhodes, former deputy to president obama. he is an msnbc political analyst. ben, i just want to get your reaction as someone who took that oath of office to work as national security advisor. to see what jarred kushner is doing. with the contactless that he billed why he is working on the white house. >> well, lawrence, unfortunately it is not a surprise but it is something to discuss. it is the struck devoun a massive scale. and i think a lot of us felt this at the time. with the saudis often the payoff, doing their bidding is on the back end. and if you look at the trump record, in the mohammed bin salman relationship, you saw the trump administration cover for the saudis after the murder and dismemberment of the councilman in turkey. you saw them do their bidding in pulling out of the iran nuclear deal. clearly a mistake of distort proportion. and you saw them basically have a foreign policy that was 100% in line with ones of saudi arabia. now, haven't done their bidding, garrett is going to collect on the back and from a murderous autocrat in saudi arabia that he can personally right himself. and if that wasn't bad enough, we know donald trump is the front runner for the republican nomination in 2024. in the southeast are rewarding someone for a job well done from their perspective, when this goes forward. and making a down payment on what they might expect from a future trump president. yes and donald trump of course after to show the murder and dismemberment by the saudis said that we are staying with saudi arabia. and by the way, it just so everybody knows, i have no business whatsoever with saudi arabia. couldn't care less. there is no one who cares more, of course about doing business like that. i want to go with the minutes that we have to this issue that we are now seeing it israel. officials who were working with best german at the time and mouthing all of that utter nonsense about the iran nuclear deal. now fully admitting, oh yeah, we are now we're stuff now that donald trump took the united states out of the iran nuclear deal. >> we heard this at the time lawrence, from some israelis officials that they understand that the deal was actually in their interest. it rolled back around the equipment program for national inspection. what you have here is essentially the dock that caught the car. in the sense that he got what he campaigned on for his own political purposes. which is to withdrawal from the nuclear deal. because of that withdrawal everybody warned. iran has resumed its nuclear program. and make no mistake about it lawrence. what we are seeing with the new killer progress, and if they get a nuclear weapon, no one will be more responsible than donald trump. and some of the folks in the gulf who wanted this confrontation with iran. i got rid of a nuclear deal that had this problem solved. they had this program on lockdown. so we have a situation where we are, clearly for political reasons, because they like to have them as a enemy, they got rid of something that internationally had been welcomed in solving a problem. and now here we are, in a situation where iran is alarmingly advancing their nuclear program. and it's much harder to get back into the deal. because trump toward it up once. at the iranians don't have confidence that the u.s. can stick to an agreement going forward. >> it's also worth knowing that both donald trump in the news or trying to divert attention from corruption investigation of their own, of themselves, and their families. >> that's right, i think corruption has got to be seen as much more sensible to all because you've had investigations into both of them. then facing charges in israel for corruption. this isn't theoretical, this is something the israeli justice situation has recovered multiple charges. you've got the trump family engaged in this kind of thing in the gulf. and they're making this decision based on their personal 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[inaudible] it hasn't been easy. -- here is a girl sitting on the floor, from time to time when they say the uniform, what they're dressed as, their shorts. that would explain they would spend a lot of time watching close at home, instead of reading their books. it has not been easy. >> you can make a contribution on msnbc.com. unicef will send an email announcement to anyone on your holiday gift list, and whose name who might want to give a desk for a girl's garage ship. you can contribute any amount, every dollar health! >> they come back and give us more, so that most of our children can be sitting at their desks. >> and that is tonight's evening tuesday message from mojave to manga, from the shores of lake malawi. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. hour with brian williams starts now. well good evening once again, day 353 of the biden administration. and we begin with and striking development of the house committee investigating the january 6th attack on our capital. the committee says that donald trump's former chief of staff and potentially crucial witness appears to have reversed his initial resistance to the subpoena he received. committee chairman, benny thompson, said mark meadows who, remembers a former house member himself, has already submitted documents and will soon appear for a deposition. thompson added in a statement, quote, the select committee expects all witnesses, including mr. meadows, to provide all information requested and that the select committee is lawfully entitled to receive. the committee will continue to assess his degree of compliance with our subpoena after the deposition. so a lot have been there in the middle. vice chair of the committee, liz cheney tells political the deposition will likely take place next for -- week. nbc news come -- the secretary of state raffensperger, for over four hours. he told the atlanta georgia constitution that he quote, spoke at length with members of the house select committee about a notorious january phone call with trump. in which raffensperger refused the then president's demands to find enough votes in georgia to

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