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heard from both. >> the january 6th which hunt committee, makes joe mccarthy blush from his grave. it is, a complete and absolute fishing expedition, trying to demonize populist americans. i'm probably going to declare the fit, not because i'm going to be wrong, but because these people aren't political criminals, that have an ax to grind. >> i'm going to make a decision between now and december 17th, based on the advice of my counsel, but it's very dangerous to go into this form, because they are not honest. this is a partisan witch hunt. >> it's worth noting that the subpoenas that -- reportedly use members of the oath keepers was private security, while in washington before january 6th. today was also the deadline for several people, including trump former aides, stephen miller, jon mcenany, to turn over documents to the committee. john eastman, that attorney who outlined plans for mike pence to deny biden the presidency, he was supposed to respond to his subpoena yesterday. tonight, we are learning because the house committee also wants to learn more about what law enforcement knew ahead of the attack. washington post reports lawmakers are, quote, scrutinizing, in victoria, where multiple warnings of possible violence that went unheated by the fbi. the post also reports that the committee is examining the failures of various government agencies to recognize, share, and elevate critical early warnings of extremists discussing violence in the run up to january 6th. meanwhile, a jury has found that those who were injured in that violent, ugly, and deadly 2017 unite the right rally in charlottesville, virginia, are entitled to over $25 million in damages from the rally organizers. the event, which was organized by white supremacists and neo-nazis, led to the death of heather hayer, after a man rammed his car into the crowd. a jury deadlocked on two more serious federal conspiracy charges. on another note, people across this country have been watching with alarm as gas prices have surged in recent weeks. today, the president announced plans to tap into our strategic petroleum reserve, to try to bring prices down. we will have much more on that decision, that story later in this hour. but with that, let's bring in our lead off guest on this tuesday night. peter baker, longtime journalist and author, chief white house correspondent for the new york times. susan page, longtime journalist and author herself, washington bureau chief for usa today. and malcolm mass, author, veteran of naval operations, homeland, and cybersecurity. 35 years in the trade of counter-terrorism and intelligence, who recently, indeed, testified before congress on the threat of domestic terrorism. and malcolm it's, precisely why i need to begin with you. what do you think the committee can learn with these would-be army men in their camo, and further what do you think the committee already knows -- and their actions leading up to including in leading up to january 6th. >> very interesting about these three particular groups. first off, we all know the proud boys have a history of protecting roger stone, earlier organize something called the brooks bother riot. did he conspire to create a massive national level brooks brother riot and did he use the organization of the proud boys, the oath keepers, and other groups like the 3% militia to effectively help coordinate this activity on capitol hill. we don't know that yet, that's a key question that needs to be ask. but in december 2020, these three groups actually held coordination meetings in washington d.c.. along with a 3% militia. and they worked from december 12, right up to january 6th, together to coordinate their actions as they were going to take place on that day. they also, again, protected all of the senior people who took -- who participated in the command conference at the willard hotel. the first amendment predatory and, are almost like an organization let by an ex special forces soldier, who protected many people, many of these senior people and numerous pro trump rallies and conferences. so, they actually sit around in the golf carts and listen to these people as they communicate, and coordinated themselves. the question is, which one of these organizations worked up the chain of command to create the riot that we saw on january six. >> all right, susan let's talk about that chain of command, obviously there is a guy at the top. what are the core questions that you think this committee is cute pursuing, either directly or indirectly related to donald trump himself? >> well, i think the committee is rain very the thought of cool. now they've issued 40 subpoenas, they said they've interviewed 200 witnesses voluntarily, they're trying to follow the money, and the organization they're working their way up the chain of command. of course that will next include a sitting member of congressman, but will also include donald trump, the president of the united states at the top of this pyramid. i think they're gonna be looking at what trump knew, when he knew it, what did he do? what was he involved? with the president and those closest to him, in the white house, in fomenting this riot, this insurrection, the attack on the capitol. that seems to be one is the biggest final questions only to answer, and they need to do it pretty fast, because if republicans win the house next year, as is now the conventional wind stem. this investigation, this committee inquiry will be shut down immediately. >> peter baker, for those with some age on their side, this investigation will resemble the aftermath of 9/11 on the aspects of it where they're looking to see what government agents, and agencies knew but failed to connect, failed to kick up the chain of command. i'm curious, from you, how aware and focused was this administration on the threat from domestic terrorism. which, as we've learned and seen, can be an existential threat to democracy. >> yeah, i think you've heard attorney general garland in this administration, talk about the threat of domestic terrorism from domestic travel groups, as one of the biggest threats facing america, obviously we still think of or worse abuse terrorism because it captures the imagination. but, when i think this administration understands, is really there is just as much if not more danger to our democracy here at home. and so, what you're seeing here in this committee subpoenas today, is that these subpoena groups, has probably drawn at least partly from the information that they've received, that they've investigated from the fbi, and from other federal agencies about what they already knew or were discovering in the prosecutions of some of these people. in the aftermath of january six. this is not just a fishing's expedition, they know things that they're now trying to document and get further exact narrative of that. they're gonna interview more than 200 people, this is a wide ranging inquiry. it's interesting, because it's going well beyond just the big names, their household names like mark meadows, roger stone, and steve bannon. it's going to the core of the militants who showed up on the capitol steps that day. how they got there, with the planning, was what was going on in advance of this. what connections they had two people around trump. and what kind of conclusions can we draw from that? >> hey malcolm, as fraught as it is to play something spoken from an army veteran for navy veteran, i want you to listen to this gentleman who is aghast with nicole wallace this afternoon. he goes after hague groups that particularly appealed to, and in some cases pray on military veterans. we'll discuss on the other side. >> my goal, and organizations like we the veterans, and veterans for american ideals, and human rights first, or to knock these people off center. they have gone unopposed for years, we have all been talking about, it's out in the open, and no one's done anything. well now, it's time, to engage these people. i'm not going to go out in the street with a weapon, dressing like i did in iraq, because i'm not an idiot. i can do all this from my home, and other veterans who are interested, i would encourage him to do the same. what we want to do is make these groups so paranoid, that they can't function. and i've been pretty successful that. i've taken it down a couple of hate groups, just by myself. but if we see more of that do in this, i think it's gonna be a great movement. that's, we protect democracy, the oath keepers, they're not keeping any oath. it's folks like me to engage in this work, who really are taking our oath to the country seriously. and serving and protecting our democracy, in a tangible way. >> so malcolm, that seems like a good approach to those of us civilians in the audience. what do you make of us? >> yeah, chris carlson and his group is doing a very good job, for a very long time, certainly in the spirit of donald trump, there's been this equation where veteran equals right wing conservatives extremist. supporting all of these extremist behaviors. we saw in the capitol six rally organization, of some of the people who were doing some of this most severe fighting. for everyone veteran who is a policeman, or an ex soldier, or special voices, he would get ten kyle rittenhouse type people who see them as sort of the century and in the little legion that they were forming there and, they would rally around that person. we had special forces people doing training programs, tactically, with guns and movements, for many of these militia organizations. they see themselves as either the individuals who are going to be the key motivators to this extremism, and many people defer to them just because they're veterans. and we need to take that away from them. i've said this in a washington post op-ed on january 17th. you have to shame these people. and the oath keepers was a group that was supposedly about not violating your oath to attack american citizens. that group has turned into an armed militia to attack american citizens, and the u.s. government, and democracy itself. we have to sort of disentangle their honor and restore it, and get these people away from extremism. i don't know whether that's ever going to be possible, but we have to make the effort. >> malcolm, i can only offer you 60 more seconds, but take this on for me. if i read you correctly on social media, you appear to be sane of late, we are in mid attack here, we're in the middle of something as a country. >> yes, last november sex i was on realtime with bill maher, and you singing kumbaya, and we are all trying to hope that the united states would move to a happy place. but it became very apparent to me throughout the fall of 2020, that we were moving into an insurgency. 62 days later, we have the insurrection. but that's just the first step of an insurgency. we are now in a political insurgency, where the political differences on capitol hill, are now trickling in their way down to the street. they are enabling the street to become a paramilitary weapon system, or a ticking time bomb that can be exploited at anytime. i don't even think we're midway, by mid spring this year, it became very clear to republican party was going to quintupled down on this. we are going into an insurgency, and it is going to be, we may have multiple instructions around the country. places where, people have now decided that they can self-defense their way through any protests, by using the second men went as the vehicle through which they will intimidate and threaten this nation. we are in a sedition path but i'm not sure we can get out of. >> so susan, that certainly gets your attention. that would sober up even the most jaded mind, even in washington d.c.. and this, a nation turns its lonely eyes to the one six committee, the only group in town kind of trying to track this down. to which, lawrence tribe up to harvard law school said this today, nearly a year has passed since that january 6th insurrection, not one person in power has yet been held accountable. not one. nor have we added a single safeguard for democracy. not one. >> susan, outside of polite society, there's another way people put this, is that the democrats just are killers. well that's some >> people wish the some people democrats would be more wish that democrats would be more aggressive, the committee i think has tried to address some of these concerns by for instance bringing condemns that patients against event in, the thing that that is a surprised many people since january six is what happened on the other side the unwillingness, the disinterest on the part of almost every republican on capitol hill in trying to find out more about what happened on january 6th. who planned it, who paid for it, these are questions that were being entertained in the immediate aftermath by people at both parties. but interest on the republican side has faded to the point where, even republican officials portray this as a witch hunt, or they don't discuss it at all. and so, democrats are the only game in town, when it comes to try to figure out what's actually happened there, and what might be -- our we in fact and real peril for our democracy, is our democracy fragile, we're not used to thinking of it that way, maybe that's the case right now. and peter baker, bring us up to present day, this petroleum reserve that the white house has decide to tap and has first kind of non emergency use of. it first use of it just for consumer needs and price control. is it an indication, and we have a longer report on this later in the hour, an indication that the white house has indeed dealt into what we are all paying for gas? >> yes, i think they are very concerned about, very aware of. it especially as we head into a holiday weekend, where a lot of people are going to be on the. wrote they want to show that they are at least concerned and on top of the issue to try and do something about. it that the billion dollar barrels was a lot. it's one of the largest that they've ever released in the strategic petroleum reserve. and in the long term of, course it is not going to do that much. but it is meant to be a short term reassurance to the public and to the markets that the government is on top of. it the problem is that the biden administration is the longer term one, it is also got a challenge in trying to square and reconcile its message in which aside. in this time we begin to think about a long term shift away from fossil fuel. even as we are now finding ourselves paying more by pump and trying to pump more fossil fuels into the marketplace into a nearly every. that and it shows that the administration recognizes a real pocketbook situation right now among a lot of voters, not just at the gas pumps but with inflation in general. we are trying to say, look, we understand if we get it you are heading into the holidays and we are with you we are going to do something about it. >> peter baker, susan page, malcolm nance great thanks to our starting line on this tuesday night of the holiday week. greatly appreciated. coming up for us, our friends james, mike murphy, join us to talk about how critical the president's messaging is right now. as he tries to take on surging gas prices ahead of the before mentioned holiday. and later, the new increase and virus cases among children ahead of the holiday. we'll talk to a pediatrician about vaccinations for kids. , how to stay stave over this coming weekend. all of it as we say, as the 11th hour is just getting underway inside of the washington monument and beyond it, the u.s. capital on a tuesday night. esday night. ♪♪ dad, why didn't you answer your phone? ♪♪ your mother loved this park. ♪♪ she did. ♪♪ hey hun hey, get your own vapors she did. relax with vicks vapobath or with vicks vaposhower. take a soothing vicks vapo moment wherever you chose. 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this time, but before long you should see the price of gas drop where you fill up your tank. and then in the longer term, we will reduce our reliance on oil as we shift to clean energy. >> president biden trying to calm fears over high gas prices rising inflation, but the new york times reports his allies worry he is not doing enough. writing, quote, as mr. biden's approval ratings have sagged in recent weeks and his party confronts a tough outlook for the next year's midterm elections some democrats have asked if the president has yielded too much control of the public narrative of his administration to others. it is a good night to have these two friends with us james carville veteran democratic strategist who rose to national fame with the clinton presidential campaign. he is cohost of "politics war room" podcast. and mike murphy, veteran republican, cold -- for the political future at ufc, he cohosts the "hacks on tap" just to keep things even. gentleman good evening to you. both james, let's talk about messaging that's when you when i talk about every time you come. on you and i get there 1000 americans, either in bay st. louis or the san francisco bay area. we asked them, what is in the build biden just signed. what is in the bill they are trying to get biden to sign. what somebody will see a bridge, somebody will say and interstate. that's about it. how do you fix that? >> you get out and you talk about. it the president gets, out he's got some really skilled casualty. governor jean, andrew, the infrastructure -- anybody who has ever run for statewide office administration should just be flooding this. on and we've gone on to long stories to tell. oddly enough, it is kind of good news that people don't know a lot of what's happening because that way, if we, tele-we could change perspective. and you have to sell sell sell. you get up in the morning. selling you sell at, noon and you go to bed at night something, and for good reasons they haven't been very good, they've been distracted, but they have to get up there and sell these pots and pans to people, and get out of there, and often i think that i've been pretty vocal about it and i think they are starting to do that, i really do. i think they're starting to see the value of doing things is not enough and you have to tell people. the have to have the ceo of warmer out. today and i would say that they put a great job that administration was doing all of the supply changes. they have some great stories to tell. but we have this along the american waters history, and that counter something. but they have to tell people what's going on. >> mike murphy, i know you came on armed with some data from a focus group of voters who people who voted for biden and then considered voted for youngkin in virginia. among your finding, are quote, democrats have no real brand among the swing voters whose 2020 vote was first and foremost against trump. most could articulate what democrats -- most cannot articulate what democrats could stand for. they also could not say what they are doing in washington besides fighting. they were vaguely aware of the infrastructure bill in congress and pieces they've heard are in the reconciliation bill. mike, that's a problem if you're a democrat. >> big problem it's a focus group actually by the president posts or excellent and it's a focus group done to a, what went wrong in virginia to allow the suburbs to snap back under the republican despite the. democrat scheming trump around the clock. and it's very instructive, every democrat ought to, redid there's something floating around the internet. bottom line is that the one of trump's fixation is not working, and two is what james is talking about. nobody has any idea of what their stuff is, because they're talking only in terms of process whether or not manchin will vote for closure, and sinema, and you know a whole bunch of people is just a blur of congressional faces to the average voter. the democratic spending bill is like a quote. with 400 patches, and 15 feet, you can't even figure out what color it is, instead of locking down one or two popular programs that people understand, you can put on a bumper sticker. shouted, and have a nice fair fight with the other side that may say it's a bad program. but they are having a hard -- lesson about this stuff now. and my guess is in politics there is always a reaction. and i think i agree with my pal james, they are shifting gears to track. and they do have an opportunity to stop this that's not define very well. they are learning the hard lesson that if you don't message effectively, the politics fall apart. and that is kind of where they have been stuck. and biden's got a problem that the defining voices in the democratic party in the last eight months have not been him. it has been the left wing of the party in the police and all the stuff that is tangling up the democratic ability to get swing voters. and biden has looked past it, and it's just political kryptonite for president. so it is time for a big gearshift. i think they are trying to go out on the road and do events. but they have a lot of work to do. these numbers are pretty grim. and that focus group report should scared the hell out of any democratic person who reads it. >> i don't forget members of the squad who voted against infrastructure, seemingly without consequence. both of these learn a gentleman are going to stay with us through this. break coming, up trump seems to understand he is not going to be reinstated exactly. but that means getting his old job back which would require actual work. actual work. align. fast acting biotic gummies helps soothes occasional abdominal discomfort, gas, and bloating and it works fast. in as little as 7 days try fast acting biotic gummies from align. the #1 doctor recommended probiotic brand. aside from a handful of rallies and fox news appearances as recently as tonight and not forget about the rambling -- with donald trump has largely remained out of the public eye of since losing the election. new reporting tonight, however, shed some light on his so-called 2020 foreshadow campaign. this is from politico, as donald trump builds out a presidential campaign and waiting, his team is focusing on an electoral strategy that relies on re-capturing the five states that flip to joe biden in 2020. now, according to this report, this includes internal polling they've done in arizona georgia michigan and wisconsin. that shows trump conveniently leading in all five. keep in mind, this is a poll trump reportedly played for. and today's date, after all, is november 23rd of 2021. having established all that, let's bring back our friend james carville and mike murphy. mike, here's the game we tried to play this with tim miller last night. it's like fake club, the only rule is in your answer your unable to use the name youngkin, can you name any republicans who told trump to stay away, go pound salt, and i've been victorious, and do you see that as a viable trend going into 22 and 24? >> well, maryland governor hogan took a good shot at trump on twitter, yesterday, saying he didn't get endorsement. but fundamentally, if you've got a republican primary right now, trump's a bit big deal in your life whether you like it or not. and this poll, i think -- this is old consultant trick number 38 regular, where you lead a poll three years in advance to show your guy ahead, to create a bunch of noise in the spin world. and it will, on the republican side, there's a bit of a trump bandwagon. mostly because biden is perceived as so weak. but this will get relitigated, and who knows what kind of trump we're gonna have in three years. but, in the world of the republican primary, you've got about 40% of the vote that will follow trump to the gates of hell. we've got about 15% of the vote, they don't like trump, want to get rid of him. and then you've got about 45% that won't say bad thing about him, but thinks it's kind of time to move on, which is why you've got all these senators can out they're out there thinking about it, though very few will take trump on frantically. they're trying to wait and see what trump turns into. have no doubt, right now, donald trump in a republican primary, he still trouble in the general, despite what is polls are, he's quite powerful. >> james carville, who for my money, and many says we haven't seen each other -- 40 too long, a learned man said years ago, it's the economy, stupid. and i'm curious to feel you out on the danger of inflation, the danger of sky-high gas prices, and in danger of a president labeled as out of touch. last time that happened, you beat him. >> well, first of all, i declined in unemployment numbers, people have the highest quit rate that we've had in the last four years, but the advice i seems to be very unconcerned about it. gas prices, who knows, it's an oil market where only one fifth of the market. but we have some really good economic news out there. if we want to go to its the economy, stupid, i've got some pretty good news that could preach on this. hopefully inflation numbers will continue to improve over the next year, as well as gas prices, and there will be another success story to talk about. but this is a pretty doggone strong economy out there. if we can get this inflation down a little bit, and get these wagers to continue to go up, we're gonna be in pretty good shape. i have some hope to say that the message could be pretty good for democrats. james, are the democrats constitutionally able and equipped for another run against donald trump in 24, should that happen? >> they better be. we are going to hang together, where we should hang separately in the primaries. i watch that first segment with malcolm and peter numb, they're exactly right, wherein difficult times in the united states. i hope my party can come together, and be able to code a message, can get things going. but these are troubling times, i'm not gonna try to gloss over that. >> and mike murphy, these are not just troubling times for democrats, their troubling times for republicans and all people who love this country. when are we going to hear a republican voice of authority say when james just said. say what malcolm nance said at the top of our broadcast, that we are indeed in troubling times. we are witnessing a rolling close call for democracy. >> well, i think if you have, but that's the tragedy of it. there is so much more to be done, because once you destroy institutions, the whole thing comes apart. it's a grim time, now, but i'm an american optimist, and i have some hope that will have a restoration. but our institutions are under attack, and it's something that we all have to take very very seriously. and i wish more republicans would. there are a group of us that are fighting, and i think our numbers are growing. >> your fight is noted here. as is wishing you both a happy thanksgiving, with you and yours. we are grateful to james carville and mike murphy, for spending time with us again tonight. coming up for us, just as americans about together on the table, beds in some hospitals are filling up again. one of our favorite doctors, with what we all need to know before the doorbell rings on thursday, before the turkeys in the oven. even before the lion's game. before the lion's game. ♪ when you have nausea, ♪ ♪ heartburn, ingestion, upset stomach... ♪ ♪ diarrheaaaa.♪ try pepto bismol with a powerful coating action. for fast and soothing relief. pepto bismol for fast relief when you need it most. it's the ultimate sleep number event on the sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to relieve pressure points. and its temperature balancing so you both sleep just right. save 50% on the new sleep number 360® limited edition smart bed. plus, 0% interest for 24 months. only for a limited time. 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>> well, there is a lot of kind of wishful thinking in optimism, and people who are really sick of this whole pandemic, and are waiting to see much better days, and hoping that we're done with this except for not. and i think we just have to be really careful, and we have to really change the rules for thanksgiving, and later our other winter holidays. and we just have to take the cautions, and we have space and cities in the northeast, in the midwest, and in the west. i will have a lot of hospitals, that are terrifyingly filled up. we are at capacity. and we're scaring the hell out of our health care systems, our hospitals, and hospitals and everyone. and it was trying to take care of people, that are catching covid-19 at a very rapid rate all of a sudden. after just a couple of months ago, we felt we were really nearing the end of this ongoing nightmare. >> indeed, let me read this to you, this is from bloomberg news, quote, a boston emergency department doctors said tuesday on twitter that he had to call 11 different hospitals, to find room for two little old ladies, that we're probably having heart attacks, in the city that purports to have the best hospitals in the world's. doctor, in new england, famously the land of study habits where the vaccination rate was very high, irwin redlener if this is happening in new england. what does that portend, who needs to worry next? yeah it was very interesting, well we sort of hangar hope. on so let's take vermont, where there's about 625,000 people in the state. about 72 and a half percent are actually vaccinated. and they are resistant, hopefully, for the most part. but that still leaves about 140,000 people just in vermont that aren't vaccinated and are at high risk and they are causing a big outbreak, once again, people are getting admitted to the hospital. and the saying reported by bloomberg says that what we are experiencing a horrible wobble back in certain states a year ago. which is that, yes, the hospital can be overloaded. not only in the ers and the icus but there is also knocking out opportunities to admit people who don't have covid. but they do have heart attacks and strokes and other things that are lethal. so we have a crowding out of opportunities for really sick people because we are overrun with people with covid. we have to keep pushing this absolute requirement of people to get the covid vaccination, brian. >> doctor i hope your own family gathering is safe and wishing you and yours a happy thanksgiving, thank you very much for being our guest tonight and taking our medical questions as usual, doctor irwin redlener. another break, a new news on when those 50 million barrels of oil from our nations reserve might start to bring gas prices down. price down [gaming sounds] [gaming sounds] [gaming sounds] just think, he'll be driving for real soon. every new chevy equinox comes standard with chevy safety assist, including automatic emergency braking. find new peace of mind. find new roads. chevrolet. you don't get much time for yourself. so when you do, make it count with crest pro-health. it protects the 8 areas dentists check for a healthier mouth. the #1 toothpaste brand in america. crest. 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hang in there. >> the president accuses the oil and gas industries of price gouging americans. just as 48 million are driving over thanksgiving. >> meanwhile across the country today, mostly clear skies and packed airports. the tsa screening more than 200 million people, each day, since friday. the highest since the pandemic began. sunday will bring the most passengers. yet and today, the tsa chief tells nbc news, 90% of screening officers are not vaccinated. those who aren't, will now face immediate termination. >> no, we are gonna pull any unvaccinated people off the. line and i expect to have no impact whatsoever for thanksgiving travel, or through december on fairchild periods there. >> welcome news as well as family gather for their first thanksgiving. and into. years how soon might you and i see any improvement at the pump? most experts say it's going to be modest improvement if anything for the coming weeks. and until we see a dramatic increase in supply to meet global demands crisis won't budge that much. >> our thanks to tom costello for that report, one last break for us here tonight when we come back, it fell to one man to expose the secrets of the electronic signal beamed into your home by people like us. ome by people like us. you have always loved vicks vapors. and now you'll really love new vicks' vapostick. it goes on clear and dries quickly. no mess. just the soothing vicks' vapor for the whole family. introducing new vicks vapostick. last thing before we go tonight, we are checking in on the crazy so you don't have to, tonight we introduce you to a young anti vaxxer name jimmy levy. for reasons you will see here in just a second, he is a pretty big deal in mega circles. as you will hear, jimmy knows some words and tries to use them all at once. and as you will hear, he kind of rips the lid off the television business by giving away, perhaps, are most closely guarded secret. this may seem like a cable news broadcast just minutes before midnight, eastern time. but it is actually magic. don't take my word for it, here is jimmy. >> what do you attribute to your -- why are people struggling so hard to see what we see abundantly clear? >> they are under a spell, spiritual and psychological workers. but it is costed mostly through hollywood, hollywood is the holy would pass the magic through the television. it is real magic. >> tell a live vision? >> it is right there in the word. every word is a spelling. but they have been doing this to us for so long they created all of our personalities a home. they create the divorces, they create the family nature at home that they want to see. they create the children type that they want to see. and they actually see all of our personalities. you mean you are 5 to 10 of our favorite movie characters. because we are actually not living until we get to our full sole connection, which it's a whole journey. you probably never even get to your eternal life, which got. knows but you are still on winding from all the programming, from all the stuff you absorbed in your subconscious. >> okay, that was a lot. but if anyone is axing if we must be a collection of a minimum of five movie characters, i'll take hanks as captain miller in private ryan. or for that matter, hanks in any role. also, put me down for two mcqueen's bullet, and the thomas crown affair. i'll take a de niro, in good fellas. and a tommy lee jones in no country for old men. give me a few minutes and i'll come up with another five but mostly again, this segment was a public service to let you know that this is straight-up magic that we're doing here. the truth about us is, we are a magic delivery system, we decide who gets divorced, who the good children are, we get our assignments every day from hollywood on a whole media conference call in the morning. just a little bit surprised that it took this long to get found. on that note, that's our broadcast on this tuesday night for our thanks for her being here tonight where the magic happens. on behalf of our law colleagues on the network of nbc news, goodnight. goodnight. tonight on all in. >> proud boys, stand back and stand by. >> new subpoenas handed down to the proud boys, and other militia groups involved in january six, tonight with the meantime investigation into the through line the fringe to mainstream -- plus, a big victory in virginia the people behind the deadly charlottesville rally, found liable for millions of dollars in damages. then, michelle goldberg on the danger of political despair, and john podesta and joe biden's battle against rising gas prices. >> it will take time, but before long, you should see the price of gas drop when you felt the tank. >> all in starts right now. >> we good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes, this evening we mark 58 years since the assassination of jfk, as his motorcade drove through daily plaza in texas,

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