day. have a great weekend. to quote -- thank you. to quote my friend and radio show host josh mcintosh who said today, it has been a very america kind of day. this morning house democrats, led by speaker nancy pelosi passed the bill back better act. >> the build back better bill is passed. [applause] >> the biden social infrastructure bill passed today with near unity among democrats and only one defection, leader chuck schumer says he expects the senate to pass it by christmas. this is a once in a generation legislation includes historic social safety net and climate provisions, and set aside nearly 200 billion dollars to provide for weeks of paid and medical leave starting in 2024, that provision in particular will have a direct impact on millions of people, including women, people of color low income workers and their families. according to the national partnership for women and families, black workers are 83% more likely than their white counterparts to be unable to take that necessary leave when they needed. paid family leave was at risk of being removed from the bill, permanently. but progressives led by congresswoman camilla jayapal, who i should note is a woman of color fought to keep it in the bill, it is not surprising that the most racially diverse congress in american history pass the most consequential piece of legislation for women, children and people of color. meanwhile, republican leader kevin mccarthy, he tried, but failed, to stop the bill's advancement with his eight hour and 32 minute rant about baby carrots and some such other nonsense, while his fellow republican sat behind him, nodding and a laughing along as if these are times that you can joke about. as soon -- and soon after, that speaker nancy pelosi, she passed the democratic agenda, she also got a letter informing her that president joe biden was temporarily transferring presidential power to vice president kamala harris while he underwent a routine medical screening. so, in this very america kind of day, kamala harris became the first woman and first woman of color to become acting president for a grand total of 85 minutes, this afternoon? the vice president was in columbus ohio to sell the new bipartisan infrastructure law to voters. >> because of our work together america's moving forward, and ultimately that is what infrastructure is all about, it's about getting our nation moving. the way i see it, my definition of infrastructure i tell people, you know what think infrastructure is? i think it gives people what they need to get to where they have to go, right? and so that is about roads, bridges it's about broadband it's about making sure babies can drink clean water and getting the lead out of the pipes, and it will be when we pass build back better, and elder care, and childcare, and what we need to do to help families support their families. >> as the vice president was heading to her, while the wisconsin jury acquitted kyle wit and house on all charges stemming from the night he shot two people and injured another person in kenosha, wisconsin last summer, that was after police shot a black man, jacob blake in the back. like i said, it was an america, kind of day, joining us now to discuss democratic congress woman gwen moore of wisconsin, she is a member of the cbc and the house ways committee, congresswoman, thank you so much for being here on this historic night. >> oh my goodness, what a way to end the day with you zerlina, good evening. >> thank you so much. it was a historic day, like i said, it was full of ups and downs, 85 minutes of kamala harris being the president, build back better passing through the house, but also the kyle rittenhouse verdict, that's what i want to start with, what is your reaction to the verdict? >> well let me start off by saying, recalling something, a late defense attorney, a good friend of mine once told me that not guilty is not the same as innocent and i think that that is what we have here, i absolutely was not surprised by the verdict and as soon as i realized that this judge was going to throw out the two very minor misdemeanor counts of his violating curfews as a 17 year old being out, and then carrying a weapon as an underage person, that completely took the pathway, i think, to the conviction of anything further than that, and then he protected the defendant's character, the jury never heard anything about rittenhouse's state of mind, shortly after or during this event when he walked around with a t-shirt saying free as f, and hanging out with white supremacist groups, and so on, as a black person, i'm seeing what a fair trial looks like in some sort of twisted way. >> one of the things you mentioned is the fact that there's a lot of evidence, obviously, that we can talk about here that wasn't necessarily in the jury room, as the jury deliberated, the specifics about this particular case, people will be talking that for -- till the end of time. in terms of the bigger picture and what is happening in this country, this trial is happening in the context of the other trial having to do with white vigilantism. do you think this verdict, this acquittal will embolden of their white vigilantes, or folks to commit acts of violence against black lives matter protesters, or anyone who stands up on be half of civil rights? >> i mean that is the chilling concern and worry about this, i was never for the open carry law, we have far too many guns as it is in our society, again rittenhouse, got off on some technicality about how the state statue was written that allows him to have this ar-15, this under age would be safety patrol officer i won sure if i have heard, and i have seen, that the so-called second amendment caution of group and white supremacists are offering him all kinds of internships in opportunities, it's very frightening the message that it sends beyond the juries, but they had in front of them they're quote unquote not guilty verdict versus the reality that he is being elevated and has really shown little to no remorse of having killed people, and only being concerned about his own life, in my estimation. >> one of the things, i think we have to keep in mind here is that all of the stuff is happening at the same time, we're in this global pandemic, as i've mentioned on the flip side of things, kamala harris assume the powers of the presidency for 85 minutes, speaker pelosi led the democrats to the process of passing transformative legislation today, this is america in so many ways what are your thoughts on the fact that all of this is happening at the same time do you see a connection between the most diverse congress that you are a part of currently and the democratic shift in america, and also the rise in white vigilante-ism and emboldened white nationalists in this country, do you see a connection between those things? >> absolutely, zerlina. you know, even though we've had a great day, we passed the build back better bill, we still are unable so far to get voting rights and criminal justice reforms we see that we need some sort of reform just from the decision that was made today, you know, why don't contest what the jury decided given what was in front of them, but it begs the question as to whether or not we will allow people to run through the streets, when they feel threatened and start to shoot people. and so, our inability to pass justice reform and voting rights is still an element that worries and concerns me about our ability to truly have a transformative society that looks at equality and justice for all. >> as you know, democrats have some headwinds in terms of history with regards to keeping in managing, keeping control of the senate in the house, but i do think that with this build back better bill, we are demonstrating who is actually contributing to the growth of our economy in a healthy way, i mean, think about the supply chain problems that we've had and yet we are going to build up our airports, and courts, and we're gonna work on stopping the virus, which, zerlina, i said it today my god, kevin mccarthy talked for eight hours and 32 minutes and didn't mention the pandemic one time as being the reason that we are having high prices and supply chain problems, went on to blame kindergarten and giving people insulin no more than $35 a month, you know? you would think in eight hours and 32 minutes, all of that lust for one minute on the floor, and he had eight hours and 32 minutes, and a congressional research paper report told him that all of this inflation which is problematic for gas prices for food is because of the pandemic it's frustrating on many levels but i feel like we will be able to demonstrate within the next year that we have really improved peoples lives people will see it, within the next year with projects starting with being able to get health care and keep in places like wisconsin, which couldn't get the affordable care act and i am just thrilled, like i said, this is a great, great today, a little. >> it was a rollercoaster, but i think that a transformative piece of legislation like this one, we will see the impact on american lives, and everybody will make the case for reelection next year, kevin mccarthy, i guess the pandemic didn't come to mind in that eight hours, congress woman gwen moore, thank you so much for starting us off on this friday night. please stay safe. off on thijoining us now is maye civil rights professor, an msnbc legal contributor, also the president and ceo of vote latino, and an msnbc contributor, i'm so glad you guys are both here with me on this very consequential day, same question to both of, you my, i want to start with you, how do we square the progress that we are seeing democrats make, legislatively with this verdict today and the fact that conservatives are celebrating kyle rittenhouse and the acquittal? >> you know, i think at the end of the day and what we require in washington's leadership and it is what we have seen and what we have gotten that recognizes what the daily life experiences are of americans. that includes everything from struggling just to be able to take care of your family and meet your families needs and build it back, will you get $250 on every month on one of your top three cost of living which is childcare, but also your most precious resource for our country and for any family which is our children that is exactly the type of leadership that we need, what we haven't gotten and i think representative moore said this well is a recognition that we need to be a country of peace, but piece is a choice and it does not come in the absence of justice. and so unless for paying attention to the way we have to change laws and practices that do not protect us all coolly, then we will always be in danger of the kind of violence that we saw. i absolutely agree that that requires both leadership in congress, i'm thinking about what reforms could be made nationally, but it also means that we have to take that to state houses because the safe defense laws that are being accused to shield people from violence because they are afraid and far too often that means people who are white who are afraid of people who are not, that is not equal protection of the law, that means that we also have to build up our capacity to do what democracy calls is to do. that is solve our shared problems, justice is a shared problem because i really saw in rittenhouse, while race was the precursor, when people who are white stood up to demand that we improve the criminal justice system, they too became victims of injustice, and that we have to change. >> maria, it's so true that all of these things are happening at once and we really have to live up to, as maya said, the idea that equal justice under the law is a thing we have here, it's in our constitution and we need to live up to that, but what is your reaction to the split screen between legislative progress and yet a step backwards in terms of this verdict and what it means to the people who are allied with folks like kyle rittenhouse and those groups? >> so what we saw today in the courthouse that verdict actually speaks to the case book at zambo of why we need critical race theory. talk about the layers of implicit bias in our institutions, in the courthouse, in the hearing we saw the judge who by the way is an elected official and he says, this is how you see explicitly would happened. he had no business on that bench. what we saw today at the same time in washington d.c. where people who understood implicit bias, who understood what critical race theory is, that there is literally, sadly remnants of a pass that has to be rectified, the infrastructure bill that was passed, that was signed into law just on tuesday, zerlina, speaks to the importance, looking and addressing our infrastructure because it is a testament of implicit bias in our policy making and in our institutions. right now, we know that this is where they are trying to divide us as a nation, what we saw a sign today is a multicultural america who gave joe biden and the democrats a mandate in 2018 and they said we need pieces of legislation that speaks about our country. they could not get to the senate because he was trying -- and then the democrats -- and this is what it means, it means we will address sins of our past, but it doesn't mean that it happens overnight, sadly, i feel so badly for right now is the family of those two individuals who taught their sons right, who understood what it meant to be allies and what it meant to be the future of america and the court has failed them. what we need to do is to stand locked arms and recognize that we are living at a credible moment in america where the majority of us, the multicultural america believes in our future and our values, would happen in rittenhouse is the remnants of the past, but we have to continue to stand together. i know that right now a lot of folks are having a very hard time, i have to remind folks, we won, because we knew exactly what donald trump was trying to stand, for and we locked hands and we registered and voted, and we have to keep that fierce fire in our bellies so that we continue doing it for the midterms, otherwise they will get us backwards, and we are saying help, no way. >> on a night like tonight i can't help but think of that history because i'm sitting in front of my -- afloat of my grandfather which is off camera, and he marched in selma, so i know that the march, were marching on towards progress. whatever that looks like, i hope, i hope you all are there maya wylie maria, thank you so much for joining us tonight. coming up on this historic night and naacp president, derek johnson will join us to talk about american justice and the implications of the conservative right making a hero out of kyle rittenhouse. out of kyle rittenhouse s trapped in a fog. this is art inspired by real stories of people living with bipolar depression. i just couldn't find my way out of it. the lows of bipolar depression can take you to a dark place... ...and be hard to manage. latuda could make a real difference in your symptoms. latuda was proven to significantly reduce bipolar depression symptoms and in clinical studies, had no substantial impact on weight. this is where i want to be. latuda is not for everyone. call your doctor about unusual mood changes, behaviors, or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults. elderly dementia patients on latuda have an increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about fever, stiff muscles, and confusion, as these may be life threatening... ...or uncontrollable muscle movements, as these may be permanent. these are not all the serious side effects. now i'm back where i belong. ask your doctor about latuda and pay as little as $0 for your first prescription. certified turbocharger, suspension and fuel injection. and pay as little as $0 translation: certified goosebumps. certified from headlamp to tailpipe. that's certified head turns. and it's all backed by our unlimited mileage warranty. that means unlimited peace of mind. mercedes-benz certified pre-owned. translation: the mercedes of your dreams is closer than you think. 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particular judge is not providing justice for their community. in addition to, that the jury question is a real question that we must embrace in a way that we increase the people who are registered to vote and willing to serve on juries. it was an injustice. this was worse than an emmett till trial, this was worse to so many trials where we know for a fact individuals committed murder and yet there were not brought to justice. it is unfortunate, but this is america. >> do you think that it emboldens other people to pick up guns and go to protest or, you know, communities of color to terrorize folks? i mean, i feel like one of the dangerous precedents this sets is people who don't to live in a particular community will go to where unrest is after a police shooting, we've seen police shootings happen far too often? >> well, this is the legacy of the trump administration. it's about the otherness, it emboldens so many people whether it is in charlottesville or in pittsburgh or in this case where people feel like it is okay to display their white supremacist behavior in the public square. unfortunately for the families of the victims of this murder, here is a 17 year old who came across state lines with a firearm and he purchased illegally, driven by his muster to a community that did not invite him, allegedly to protect property that was not his property and to support law enforcement officers who didn't do need support. there is no logical reason for him to be there. the fact that this judge dismissed arm charges which should've been dismissed. the real question here is was there a federal crime committed? should the biden administration be bringing federal charges in this case? do we have a u.s. attorney that has been appointed in this jurisdiction so that we can look at whether or not this young man should be charged? you and i both know had this person been african american, or latino, he would be behind bars tonight. unfortunately, unfortunately the families of the victims will not receive justice. >> what is the role of civil rights organizations in this particular moment? how do you see your role with an organization like the naacp that is connected to this long history. i see this as part of the history that we are living through, how do you see this? >> it's definitely a part of the history we're living through. the reason why the naacp was created, is because on average an african american was lynched every day, was created in 19 oh not. so we need to reform our criminal justice system as well. in terms of the communities that we were present. we need to encourage a heightened engagement particularly when you have judges elected or jury pools that are not as diverse as necessary. the sad part of what we are witnessing right now is, the potential outcome of the ahmaud arbery killing, that those three individuals actually did, we saw that on tape, unfortunately in that community with 25% african american with only one juror, we are faced 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hundred,est resul eight million ♪ america is changing all around them. and the party of trump's not doing anything to appeal to that diversifying american electorate if they could come up with policy ideas to broaden their base, but instead they are attacking the ballot box, in ways that disenfranchised those who traditionally vote democratic. when till republicans are using is gerrymandering, which basically means they're redrawing election maps to overrepresented republican voters. simply but, as demographic shift away from a majority white american electorate, they are rigging the game. this week, under the headline, the redistricting apocalypse is here. washington post opinion columnist paul watkins wrote, the word redistricting doesn't carry the same inherent drama as a crowd of rabid thugs breaking doors and windows to storm the capital. but the way it's proceeding right now, in its own way, it's just as much of an assault on our democracy. yesterday, my next guest ari berman put it very bluntly, he said, quote, we are in a 1965 moment for democracy. don't joining me now is aarian berman, he's a senior reporter covering voting rights, author of give us about, the modern struggle for voting rights in -- i'm so happy to have you on what i think is a historic day, and i see a connection between all of the stories we're talking about tonight. >> hi, zerlina, thank you for having me, i think you're absolutely right. the acquittal of kyle rittenhouse, the rampant voter suppression targeting victims of color, the extreme gerrymandering targeting victims of color. it's all connected, and it's all about trying to preserve white supremacy in a face of major democratic shifts. you have places like georgia that are becoming majority minority, that are electing black senators, jewish senators, and what's happening is republicans are drawing maps to lock in, not just republican power, but white republican power for the next decade. i don't think people appreciate just the extent to which, election results are going to be pretty determined by the maps that are being drawn right now, that aren't getting nearly enough attention. so, is this a coordinated effort on the side of republicans? to rig the game, and what would that actually look like, for an election to happen, and yet the rigged game it doesn't allow for the voters are and their voices to actually counter be heard. what does that actually look like in practical terms? >> it's absolutely a coordinated effort, there is an attempt to try to overturn the election. there is an insurrection. when they failed at doing that, they decided to try to achieve the same goals through other tactics. so, the first thing they did after the insurrection was make it harder to vote in all these key states like georgia, texas, florida. then after making it harder to vote, they then are passing all these gerrymandered maps, to undermine fair elections. so you make it harder to vote, then you make it so that there is no attached vote for. because so many of the election results are predetermine, competitive seats were taken off the table. but it looks like it sets in states where that are basically 50/50, they're drawing maps to give republicans 60% of seats, 70% of seats, in some cases 80% of seats. and they're also taking almost all of the competitive races off the table. so once republicans take power, once they retake the house to gerrymandering, when they lacking control the state legislatures, it's going to be very difficult to vote them out of power and to hold them accountable and have a functioning democracy in places like georgia, places like ohio, and places like texas. >> so, if that's the case, what is the short term solution. is it only federal legislation? and then went? >> well, the most impactful solution by far is federal legislation. because, there really is no substitution for congressional action, there's no substitute for the voting rights act of 1965. and there's no substitute for restoring the voting rights act in passing the freedom to vote act today, because it's really hard to out-litigate these maps, out organize ease maps. congress has to make partisan gerrymandering illegal. they have to make when georgia, texas, and ohio are doing, unconstitutional. and, they have the power to do that. but democrats aren't using the power they have, to protect voting rights, so it's not a fair fight. republicans are doing everything they can to rig democracy, but because of a few democratic holdouts on the filibuster. democrats aren't doing everything they can to protect democracy, they aren't showing the same amount of urgency that republicans are. >> ari berman, it's always great to talk to you. thank you so much for being here on this friday night, and please stay safe. but joining me now are -- which is working to protect voting rights in the state of georgia, and helen butler, executive director of the georgian coalition for the peoples agenda. nonprofit advocating for voting rights, criminal justice reform, housing, education. and and say, i'll start with you, the princeton gerrymandering party just gave the -- a big fat f. that's failing. it's not passing. and then you have republican congressional map, got a sea. that's better, not great. my parents would be upset. how has this affected your day to day work? >> it's had a profound effect on not only my day to wave work, but the country that i live in. and the rights that i have enjoyed apart until this point. we are talking about roe v. wade on the chopping block before the end of the year, quite possibly. we're talking about an attack, continuous back to back, grievous blows to our democracy. making it more difficult for young people to vote, for poor folks for, people of color having to have conversations about these distractions, when we all see what is happening. you've laid it out, already has laid it out, my nephew can look and see that this is an attempt to take their ball and go home. that the permanent rules that have been set out of how our elections are conducted, do not serve the interests of the minority party. that fewer people are aligning with the gop's platform, so in order for them to hold on to power, they're going to cheat. and that's why we have 400 anti voting bus bill who's been introduced in 48 out of our 50 states. it's making our lives very difficult, it has a real life impact on us. i pointed out earlier today that the judge in the rittenhouse trial is an elected official, who has run unopposed several times. that being able to exercise the franchise, being able to choose our leaders, people who are going to comb govern with the people in the interest of their constituencies, is our democracy. it is how we express our values. it's how we run our country. and it's being attacked right now. >> and helen, in terms of those anti voting laws, georgia has one. they pass it on the state level this year. white practical, went obstacles have been created by the law for voters in the state of georgia? >> well, zerlina, every obstacle you can think of, from being able to exercise your right to vote, to absentee balloting. not being able to be given work while you're standing along the lines. it's really the real threat is the takeover of every aspects of the election process. and gerrymandering goes right along with it, because it is taking total control of every aspect -- they want us to be able to exercise that precious right to vote. georgia has as history of racial discrimination, and this is continuing that process. people of color where the largest demographic that increased in the 2020 census, 10% increase. and all of that was people of color, well one population basically decreased. but what we see our legislators doing is trying to maintain total control of all aspects of government. and really, they're targeting boards of education, was going after words and commissioners, and especially ones that are headed by women, black women. and so, they are really going after total control of the process, and our only option is to fight back in court, and fight back at the ballot box. of course, as ariana stewart had said, that's going to be a difficult challenge, but we're up to the task. we are going to continue this fight to have a right to vote. >> you know, there's a lot of criticism of the idea of being woke. but, this is why you need to wake up, because these things are happening, and as an american voter everybody needs to be paying close attention. because, we see you, and say who funded, helen bowen, thank you for joining us on this disorganized. icus in minnesota are nearly at capacity, let's a week away from the thanksgiving holiday, that's up next. from the thanksgiving holiday, that's up next that's up next st a cold. unlike other cold medicines, coricidin provides powerful cold relief without raising your blood pressure be there for life's best moments with coricidin. now 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>> yes, this is a question i all-important get from students, i try to remind them that i think we are part of a very long story. and so this story of bright spots followed by darkness, or bright spots together with darkness, are part of our long history, in addition to the things he talked about in politics we can think about slavery in reconstruction. so these things tend to go together, but i think it's important for us to do use those bright spots, to take them and find joy in them as we continue the work. it's important that we don't get bogged down and start to celebrate the price phosphine they happen, because it's necessary to hold on to that kind of thing, when we need to continue to work and we do those work from residents ration and the turnout, when we're fighting against redistricting we were just hurting about. and battle in against covid, we can do those things with a smile on our faces we remember the good times. >> i just want to end on a positive note, what does it mean for a howard alumni to be the first woman president? why are hbcus so important to historic moments like this? >> they're really important, these historic moments. they've been important before they were talking about them in the media. but it is the case of people come to these places, they get a very clear sense of themselves, they get a really clear sense of how they might be received in the world. so it equips them to go out and change what they want to see in the world, so they are very important for that reason. in particular it's, a wonderful time to be teaching at howard university, with the vice president of the united states because those students can feel that, energy and they can feel that they can do it too. >> i didn't mean to shave hampton university, i love hampton university, but as calamity harris would say the real a.g. was howard university, so i need to say, professor canadian grant thank you so much for joining us tonight on this historic night please stay safe. that is tonight's last word, you can catch me every week night at 6 pm we can on the choice from msnbc, exclusively on peacock. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. r with brian williams starts now. >> good evening once again day 304 of the biden