twice when president george w. bush god put under, had anesthesia in order to have colonoscopy's, dick cheney was acting president for each of those times for a couple of hours. under ronald reagan as well, 1985, george bush senior, vice president happy bush was acting president for eight hours, while reagan had surgery for colon cancer in 1985. today it was just under an hour and a half, while president biden had a colonoscopy, as part of his physical, the white house released a long detailed readout from president biden's doctor about his health and everything they looked at in his physical. we learned or at least had confirmed as current the fact that the president takes a blood thinner, also cholesterol drug, he takes over the counter allergy medicine, he has a little bit of reflux, the doctor said he noticed president biden has been clearing his throat more often and he explained in great detail how they looked into that very, very closely in from every possible angle using tons of specials and in the end they decided it's just from the reflux and the medicine should be fine. the doctor also said that president biden's walk, his gate seems stiffer than it used to, the doctor explained that they looked into that very closely to with a gazillion types of specialists and tons of different types of tests of every type. the verdict on that one's nothing is wrong, really. he has a little arthritis in his fine, i have that to. he might have changed his walk a little bit to compensate when he broke his foot earlier this year, that can change peoples walk a little bit, but the doctor says the foot fracture he'll fine and he's fine, there is nothing, wrong they might want him to wear arthur ticks in his shoes, which might help with his foot positioning. and he got his contacts lens tuned up, that's basically it. you can read it yourself if you care to, he works out five days a week or more, man on -- the bottom line, honestly, is that we know a lot of detail about president biden's health and perhaps more importantly, given all the information, which is not alarming in any differing shun, we're back to having normal reports on a health. a president's health, because he's president by definition is not a private matter, we all get to know, as a matter of prying and also perhaps national security. a presidents health and their checkups and annual physicals, and all this stuff, it's basically public information, and it is just sort of nice to return to the system where we actually get to know, we get candid detail reports from a doctor who doesn't seem like a crazy person. president biden's immediate predecessor, you may recall, a man who very nearly died in office when he contracted covid and had to be hospitalized with blood oxygen levels so low the considered putting him on a ventilator, nevertheless, under that president, we got the public facing reports about his whole thought were basically a joke, or at least a far's. remember he could lift to be 200 years old, he has a great jeans, some people just have great jeans. the health his individual ever elected to the presidency, never mind that he is a clinically obese, he has heart disease we don't talk about, he almost died off this from a communicable disease, he may very well have spread to others. to the extent that we're allowed to know stuff about the presidents health, now we are back to relatively normal, not insane public pronouncement in great detail about the presidents actual health. after her brief hour and a half long stint as acting president today, the first woman to ever have that role, even if it was for just over an hour, after that stint today, vice president harris spoke to reporters on the tarmac as she was due to fly from ohio back to d.c., just brief remarks, she wasn't asked, but she volunteered this observation on the not guilty verdict in the trial in wisconsin. >> hey guys, the verdict speaks for itself. as many of you knows, i've spent a majority of my career working in the criminal justice system, for it to be more equitable, and we still have more work to do. >> madam vice president! >> vice president kamala harris speaking with reporters today saying the verdict speaks for itself, i've spent a majority of my career wanting to make the criminal justice system more equitable, clearly there is a lot more work to do. we've had eyes on a number of cities, also a number of places in wisconsin tonight, not knowing whether there might be protests in response to the rittenhouse verdict. we're seeing, as you can see in these shots, a considerable sized crowd in brooklyn new york, and there are some other protests, in other parts of the country tonight. we're gonna be going live to kenosha, wisconsin, it's just a few minutes, that city continues to absorb the rittenhouse verdict. and now, the knock on effect of republicans and far-right groups including supremacist groups neo-nazis militia groups holding up this young man kyle rittenhouse at not just a person who is acquitted of murdering two people and shooting a third, they also made him their new hero on their right, for admittedly killing those people and getting away with it, which raises all sorts of questions about the safety of public protests in the future. one response that i think was very much worth hearing today, and in its entirety, is from the family of one of the people who kyle rittenhouse killed, the parents of anthony huber put out a statement today in response to the verdict they said quote, we are heartbroken and angry that kyle rittenhouse was acquitted in his criminal trial for the murder of our son anthony hubert, there was no justice or for the other victims, we did not attend the trial because we cannot bear to sit in a courtroom and repeatedly watch videos of our sons murder. and because we have been subjected to many hurtful and nasty comments in the past year. but we've watched the trial closely, hoping it would bring closure. that did not happen. today's verdict means there is no accountability for the person who murdered our son. it sends the unacceptable message that armed civilians can show up in any town, incite violence and then used the danger they have created to justify shooting people in the street. we hope that decent people will join us in forcefully rejecting that message and demanding more of our laws, our officials, and our justice system. make no mistake, our fight to hold accountable those for anthony's death continue in full force. neither mr. rittenhouse, nor the kenosha police who authorized his bloody rampage will escape justice. anthony will have his day in court. no reasonable person viewing all of the evidence could conclude that mr. rittenhouse acted in self-defense. in response to racist and violent calls to action from militia members mr. rittenhouse traveled to kenosha illegally armed with an assault rifle. he menaced fellow citizens in the street. though he was an open violation of a curfew order, kenosha police encouraged him to act violently. kenosha police told militia groups that they would push peaceful protesters toward the militia so that the militia could quote deal with them. soon after, mr. rittenhouse killed joseph. the police did nothing. concerned citizens confronted with a person shooting indiscriminately industry, stepped in to stop the violence. anthony was shot in the chest trying to disarm mr. rittenhouse and stop his shooting spree, still the police did nothing. mr. rittenhouse continued to shoot, maiming gauge. the police let him leave the scene freely. mr. rittenhouse came to kenosha armed to kill. kenosha police encourage him to act violently, and our son is dead as a result. we are so proud of anthony, and we love him so much. he is a hero who sacrificed his own life to protect other innocent civilians. we asked that you remember anthony and keep him in your prayers. again, that statement tonight from the parents of anthony huber, one of the two men who were shot and killed by kyle rittenhouse, incan osha last year. he was acquitted on all charges today, we will have more live from kenosha coming up in just a couple of minutes. i should also tell you that there is more to come, in terms of these gut wrenching, harrowing trials. and i mean more to come in very short order, quite soon. the jury is out, we are waiting on a jury right now in charlottesville virginia where two dozen neo-nazi and white supremacists and individual groups are facing a civil trial that accuses them of planning the violence that happened at the right wing supremacist rally in 2017. as i said, the jury is out, they've have held deliberations today, that will be back delivering on monday, and we will be waiting the verdict in that trial. also, the jury has not yet got the case, but closing arguments are due to start on monday. in the trial of the three men accused of chasing down and shooting to death ahmaud arbery, an unarmed black man who was jogging in his neighborhood. in that case, you should know, the defense council keeps demanding, keeps moving that the judge declare a mistrial in that case. this is something we have been covering over the course of this week, this is a defense lawyer who has said that all black pastors should be banned from being anywhere near the trial, because black pastors, black pastors are intimidating. he has continued all week long including today with that kind of rhetoric, and he his now pretty clearly upping his game and is making more and more obviously charged remarks in court, even as the judge dismisses these remarks. the strategy of the defense appears to be to try to up the temperature, up the inflammatory and frankly infuriating language inside the courtroom so much that it provokes a response in the community which he could cite as a reason the trial should be called off as a mistrial. his language, started off at the beginning of the week, like throwing everybody back in their seats, like is he releasing that black pastors are a problem, not just pastors but black pastors or the problem? it has escalated since then. every day this week he has used language that is not just that provocative but increasingly more provocative with each day, and it does, i say that's not as a lawyer, as an observer, it does seem possible that what he is trying to do a stoke so much upset around the trial that he provoked something that he can use to end the trial and thereby get his client off. we shall see, but if you think the rittenhouse case has stoked the worst in america, in the ahmaud arbery, the defense strategy seems to literally try to provoke violence. preferably along racial lines. it is getting uglier and uglier in that case, the jury should get the case very soon, the closing arguments will begin in that case on monday. so, we have been through a, lot as a country. we are about to go through a lot more. a, as i mentioned at the top there is enough news going on right now, it fell today like we have been trying to put ten pounds of news in a five pound bag. just tonight, the cdc, for example, has approved covid vaccine booster shots for all american adults. we knew things were heading this direction, but now it is official. if you had your pfizer or moderna two shots and that was more than six months ago it is now time to get your third shot. if you had your johnson & johnson single shot vaccine, like i did, no matter when you got that vaccine, it is time to go get a second shot. it's time to go get your booster. i talked here on the show about the fact that i did the johnson & johnson, the single shot vaccine as my initial vaccine back in the spring, i have not had my booster, i got pfizer booster, it was fine. i hate needles within the fire and fury to burn up the sun but i did it. i got my booster i feel much safer you have to do it even if the whole idea of a needle makes you want to throw up. even if the word makes you want to throw up. you have to do it. everybody needs to be vaccinated in the first instance if you already got vaccinated with pfizer moderna more than six months ago or if your vaccine was johnson & johnson at any point you have to get a booster. we can do this, if i can do it you can do it. but that recommendation, all adults get their boosters, that happened tonight. all of that stuff, although that's of happening today's news. plus, the news that we woke up to this morning that itself would be big enough to drive a whole new cycle or ten. when we last left our main characters under the capitol dome this time last night, the republican leader in the house, kevin mccarthy, had been speaking nonstop for a couple of hours. this time last night, he had been talking for a couple of hours already, trying to delay the passage of president biden's build back better bill. that's the bill that makes it so people who take insulin, won't have to pay more than $35 a month for insulin. it extends the child tax credit that millions of american families are getting. it gets your hearing aids covered if you're on medicare. we cover that now. it makes all the post office vehicles in the school buses and even the trash buses electric. it covers preschool for every kid in the country and finally childcare and others. it's a huge bill that is going to potentially be transformative in this country. in terms of the way most american families live. well, this time last night when last we left our leaders in the house, the republican leader had spoken for a couple of hours. thereby delaying the vote on the bill. by this morning when he finally quit, he had gone on for more than eight and a half hours, speaking on the floor of the house. good for him. aside from the content of his speech, which doesn't bear much i -- shouldn't require too much of your time. frankly, as a tactic, long speeches, very, very long speeches are tried and true way for legislators to dramatize and draw tension to their objections to something that is going to happen anyway, and that is what he did. he did that until after five in the morning and then they reconvened the house in the 9 am hour, and was clear very quickly that that part was over. over with an exclamation point. >> on this vote, the yays are 220, the nays are 213. the build back better bill is passed. >> democrats cheering i literally jumping up and down, celebrating the pace of this huge piece of legislation that they tied themselves up in such notes about. ultimately, and this one up for a while, they calmly down a little bit, only to actually start back up again when speaker pelosi left the desk, she walked on to be with the rest of the house. they started up again, only this time when they started chanting was nancy, nancy, nancy. the bill is passed, nancy pelosi got it through the house with the slimmest of margins despair. now of course, it goes to the senate where, we will see. i think it is nude, it's important to know that the chair the progressive caucus primala jayapal, police confidently last night that this bill is going to pass the senate, and she has personally been speaking with the senators who will make the difference as to whether or not this passes, and we know who we are talking about. she -- it will change in some small ways, but she told us last night, confidently, that the vast majority of this bill has been, in her words, pre conference. which means, pre-agreed to. by senators. including with conservative democrats joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, the two have been railing this process all along, and so in this down all these months. she says they have already pre agreed to almost everything that is in the bill, and the things that will be added to it, or come out of it are small compared to what will stay. hearing that from primala jayapal, she has been trustworthy in her assessment of these things along the way has been true. we shall see. but the democrats celebrated today. the president celebrated it today, i forget his colonoscopy, the poor guy. it's been a really big news day. and we're gonna talk about a lot more of these things over the course of this hour. i just wanna give you one other thing from today's news. which is in addition to all that stuff, and which is a total surprise, this is something we've been covering now for months and months and months. and it feels like it's going to finally get done. you know the post office guy, left over from the trump years. nobody's ever had to know the name of the postmaster general for. this is a technocratic job, it is never been a high-profile job before, because it has not been a controversial job before, until the trump years, when we got postmaster general louis dejoy, a major republican donor with no post of experience whatsoever. since he's been postmaster general he has, however, distinguished himself by, among other things, bianna or fbi criminal investigation, for allegedly using the company previously ran to gin up hundreds of thousands of dollars in illegal campaign contributions. which among other things seemed to position to get this job, he is also distinguished himself by maintaining personal financial investments, himself, with companies doing business with the post office. while he has been running the post office. that doesn't seem good. he's also distinguish himself by doing everything when human conceivably do to get pet sabotage the actual post office so it doesn't work anymore. including ordering the irreversible, physical destruction of multi, million dollar mail sorting machines. he actually came up with a plan, a ten-year plan, by which he promises he will make the post office provide fewer services and be permanently slower, and be permanently more expensive. and that's not if the plan goes wrong, that's if the plan works. this year he's instituting a special -- on top of the price hikes he's already pushed through. a christmas season rate hike just for this year. to make your holiday season this year that much harder. that's on top, i should mention, of what is changes did to the post office last christmas, when last holiday season, on time law local mail delivery dropped in this country to its lowest recorded performance ever. 38% on time, last holiday season, under list enjoy. 38% on time? if you are a student, you can add 30 points to that and it would still get you and a half. louis dejoy is like, a little bit of boiled shrimp sowed into the hands of the curtains from the last crew who left the white house. a little bit of sugar poured into the gas tank, right? a little rich topsoil they carefully blended into the ground coffee, before they closed up the place and handed over the keys to the biden administration. ha. and the reason they were able to leave him behind, what's that smell? it's because president biden can't fire louis dejoy. that's not the way the post office is structured. the white house has repeatedly made clear that they like to, they think he's not the man for the job. but the way it structured, it's not the president who will replace that person, it's the postal board of governors who hires and fires people for the postmaster general job. now, the president, puts people on the postal board of governors. but he can't directly do what the do. well, today, on top of everything else that happened today in the news, today, in a surprise move, president biden made the changes to the postal board that apparently are finally going to clear the way to getting rid of that guy. washington post wrote the news this afternoon, explaining in the clearest terms, they said, quote, president biden, on friday, today, announced plans to nominate to new officials have a governing board, replacing key allies of postmaster louis dejoy. the news was a surprise to postal officials, and even to members of congress, according to three people with knowledge of the matter. the move cast doubt on louis dejoy's future at the postal service. and potentially gives the panel two crucial votes to oust him. he can of course, only be removed by the court. surprise, joining me now is illinois congressman raja chris number two, he's on the committee that's been vetting dejoy -- chris number two has been calling on the postal board of governors to fire mr. dejoy for months now. he's also been calling on mr. biden to replace members of the postal service board, which biden did today, so that the new board could replace mr. destroy. he also introduced a bill called the delivering elves judiciously on time year-round act. which, as awkward as it sounds, spells out dejoy, it's called the judiciary act, to fix things in the postal service that he has deliberately broken. congressman, i appreciate you being here. >> hey, thanks rachel. >> from the dejoy act here involvement in the oversight committee's oversight of this matter, to your direct police to president biden to please replace members of the board of governors, so that dejoy can be gotten rid of. you've been really, really focused on this. perhaps more than anybody else in government. did you know that president biden was gonna do what he did today? >> i didn't. but my pleas really came from my constituents, of rachel. we've received more complaints, thousands of complaints about slower mail delivery, and raised prices than perhaps any other issue that we talk about in government. and now we're on the verge of the holidays, and unfortunately the poor semester general is taking the joy out of the holidays, too. so it was time to call for his removal, and once mr. bloom refused my plea to remove mr. dejoy, i asked of the president also remove mr. bloom, who is the chair of the board of governors, which he announced today. >> what sort of timeline do you think that people should expect here? as you say, your constituents have been given you more feedback on this than any other issue, a lot of americans, people run small businesses, people who just use the mail for normal bill painting correspondence. a lot of americans, millions of americans, have been really mad about how bad the postal service has been under his leadership. and it is, apparently, all by design. it's when he set out to do, and when he's done. if you can speak directly to americans, right now. who've been mad about this, or have been hurting about this, what would you expect in terms of the timeline for getting rid of him and starting the process of undoing what he's done? >> well, first of all, i think it's not going to be necessarily done before the holidays, because i think mr. bloom has till the end of the year to complete his term. so i hope that everybody sends their holiday cards and packages early this year, because unfortunately even first class mail is slowed by 30% of this point. however, in the new year, i'm hoping that the new chair of the board of governors conducts a vote with regard to mr. dejoy, and release some of his duties. and so i'm very hopeful that happens sooner rather than later, in the new year. >> let me also ask you about the huge news today, out of the house, the final passage of the build back better bill, at least in the house, it will head now over to the senate. a lot of people, i think, looking in from the outside, are -- who support the legislation, are happy that they finally got there, and i think very little spooked at how difficult it was. how long it took. how much fighting their wives, among democrats to get this far to get to this point today. now that you are there, now that you've got this legislation across the finish line, and i know you're a strong supporter of it, how do you feel about how this went in any sort of lessons learned? >> i think the biggest lesson is that, unfortunately, the republican party has become the party of no, with regard to so many priorities are very constituents. whether it's affordable childcare, we're investing in workforce training, or universal pre-k, or even fighting climate change. and so, we have to, basically, come together as a caucus, and do the hard work of governing the country. the only challenge is to make that as we do that hard work, no individual group of people say get on themselves to exert her leverage and make it harder for us to get to a final passage, of such an important piece of legislation. now where there, rachel, i say this bbb act gets a aaa rating from most of the constituents i talk to, given what's in there. i say the aaa stands for addressing america's aspirations. and people are really excited. >> illinois congressman raja krishnamoorthi, who has been sort of plane point on this lewis destroy lift up from the trump years, doing a job that is infuriating and inconveniencing millions of americans of every stripe. now looks like he may be on the way out, so thank you congressman, thanks for helping us talk about it and understand it today. >> thank you, rachel. >> all right, we've got much more ahead tonight, stay 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screams of disappointments from others in the crowd. that's what it looked like outside, inside the courtroom the family and loved ones of the two men rittenhouse killed, justice -- they reacted to the verdict with cheers. her fiancée said i feel like in this case, the victims lives don't matter. as i mention mr. rittenhouse shot the people during the protests last summer the police shooting of jacob blake, today jacob blake's uncle spoke to reporters outside the courtroom he said he was disappointed in the verdict, but also that he was not surprised by it. he said in his view, the judge put his hand on the scale from day one in favor of the defense, in favor of kyle rittenhouse. the naacp fun put a statement out that said this quote, we should not forget that these killings took place amid protests in kenosha. the history of protests isn't integral to the fight for racial justice in this country and it remains a concerted attack to encroach on that right. his conduct must be understood within an environment in which our militias and vigilantes are acting to silence protesters. tonight we have seen protesters back on the street in brooklyn, in large numbers. but also some in chicago and also some incan osha in response to the verdict that came down today, joining us now is nbc news correspondent, he has been at the kenosha courthouse, he was there to see the reaction when the jury delivered its verdict, he's still there in the cold, shaq, i know it has been a cold day. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> what is it like in kenosha right now? the town saw those weeks of protests last week, including the violence that resulted in this trial. protesters and supporters of rittenhouse have been back in contention for the straw, what is the atmosphere, what is like? >> really, rachel, despite the fears and concerns and anticipation as we watch deliberations stretch into four days, more than 24 hours, the jury was in the courtroom deliberating, kenosha is calm tonight. that is much to the relief of many people here in this community. we mentioned that we mentioned the national guard that has been on standby, the schools are switch to virtual learning and integration of this verdict. you're just not seeing that real reaction here on the streets. i'll tell you my conversations with protesters and demonstrators, over the course of the weekend, especially today, which by the way, on the courthouse you mentioned that moment when the verdict was read, on the steps on the courthouse to get people demonstrating against call rittenhouse and someone who were calling for his acquittal. the conversation that i had with those who were disappointed by this result, those who were calling for his conviction, they said that they expected this result. they were resigned after watching the trial, this was not a soft price to them, i think that goes into the reaction that you saw. there was disappointment that you saw, even including jacob lake's uncle, justin blake, there was a disappointment there. it wasn't true surprise, i think that is partially explaining why you have the more muted feeling here in kenosha right now. the feeling that so many people have told, me they are tired, they have gone through a lot in the past 15 months with the shooting of jacob blake, with the shooting but, the shooting that led to the trial, and now the trial they have gone through a lot. they are tired. they're exhaling right now is one protester pointed to me, and that is what you're seeing, that's the feeling you have here in the courthouse, rachel. >> i just have to tell you, anecdotally, it resonates. because their cameras in the courtroom which is a controversial thing. because the whole country has been provided by this trial, because in large part because of the way the judge ran the trial and the judge's own statements at times outbursts in the way that it ran, the trial ran in a way that was surprising to a lot of people. but the conclusion, based on the way the travels run is that it would be almost unimaginable for rittenhouse to be convicted, at least of the most serious charges. i think, anecdotally, that resonates in terms of why the response has been but it has been. i don't know anybody who didn't expect this acquittal today. shaq, i want to ask you about the victims families, we saw joseph rosenbaum's fiancée say in this case, i felt like the victims lives don't matter. what else have you heard, if anything, from the families of the two men who were shot dead by mr. rittenhouse? >> yeah, you've read earlier in your show, the really compelling statement from the family of anthony huber who really just said, and express their disappointment at the result, there was another statement from frozen bombs and from the cross course who was injured in the shooting, with kyle rittenhouse, in that statement they say the night in kenosha they in many others acted heroically, did not seek violence, but sought to end violence. what we need right now is justice, not more violence. they say that justice is not denied. that is a sentiment that you heard from the families as they were leaving the court. i mean one thing to point out rachel these are families who have expressed frustration over the course of the trial that they didn't feel like their loved ones were being defended, or represented in the courtroom very well. i won't point you even had the prosecution go after rosenbaum who was a victim here, who lost his life in that shooting he said something along the lines of had an upholding complex and was going with someone who was even smaller than him. you know, that language was hard for the family to sit there. of course of the prosecution doing that, it was part of their case, it's part of what they thought would work for the jury. but the families definitely had to go through a lot and it is definitely a heartbreaking experience for them to see them in the reactions. we do not the verdicts are being read, they were holding each other and crying as the moment happened. it's definitely a situation where you don't have any real winners here in terms of when you acknowledge the fact that two people did lose their lives and one person was seriously injured. >> and the consequences in terms of what this will mean for the country in terms of how people are able to see protests, and angrily protests against things, the idea that this is going to have an effect on whether or not people feel safe and able to do that. also the prospect that there could be civil suits that happened, that follow up on this criminal case. there is a lot still to come, this will resonate for a long time, shaquille brewster and bbc correspondent, with us from kenosha, thank you. >> thank you. >> all right, we have more, would stay with us. uld stay with us don't just put on a light show—be the light show. make your nights anything but silent. and ride in a sleigh that really slays. because in a cadillac, tradition is yours 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(m♪ red roses too ♪ng) ♪ i see them bloom for me and you ♪ (music) ♪ so i think to myself ♪ ♪ oh what a wonderful world ♪ okay, this is something you should see, as you know this week the house took this very rare step of voting to censure one of its members. republican congressman paul gosar of arizona, censured and stripped of his committee assignments because he posted a video online which showed him killing democratic congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. in the lead up to that vote this week it was pretty compelling, it was pretty compelling presentation, among other things we saw very powerful speeches from the house speaker nancy pelosi. and from congresswoman aoc herself, talking about the consequences of normalizing violence against members of congress, particularly in this environment. but it should we also be noted that in the lead up to that vote, we also heard from a number of republicans who defended it and excused went congressman gosar did. colorado republican, congresswoman laura boebert, took it one step even further. she didn't just defend congressman gosar, she decided to take that moment to attack some of the democratic members of congress, with unfounded conspiracy theories, and she did from the house floor. and here's the thing i really want you to see. i want you to see this response to what congresswoman boebert did. this is from a leading anchor at nine news denver, back home in colorado. just watch this. >> representative lauren boebert launched an islamic phobic attack against congresswoman ilhan omar on the congress floor today, suggesting that the congresswoman from minnesota is involved in terrorism, calling her member of the jihad squad. and repeating it unsupported smear that omar had married her brother. >> the jihad squad member from minnesota has paid her husband, and not her brother husband, the other one, over 1 million dollars in campaign funds. this member is allowed on the foreign affairs committee, while praising terrorists. >> it's time we acknowledge something that may be obvious by now, we hold congresswoman lauren forward to a different standard than any other elected official in colorado. we hold congresswoman boebert to a far lower standard. if we held or to the same standard as every other elected republican a democrat in colorado, we would be here near nightly chronically in the cruel, false, and bigoted things that barber says for attention in fundraising. this is not about politics, assuming politics is still about things like taxes, national security, health care, jobs, and public lands. this is about us. as journalists. recognizing that's we will hold the politician accountable if they say something bile once, but we won't hold it if they do it every day. our double standard isn't fair to all elected officials in colorado, republicans and democrats, who display human decency. >> remarkable commentary about congresswoman lauren boebert, that she's facing back home in colorado. joining us now is kyle clarke, he's the managing editor and's -- next with kyle clark, we made the commentary this week. mr. clark thanks for making time, i know you've got a really busy night. >> rachel, thanks for the invitation. >> i feel like, as soon as i saw that i wanted to talk to you about it. because i feel like you've hit something that has been driving me crazy for a long time. which is, the last point that you made, if will hold the politician accountable if they say something vial once, we won't do it if they do it every day. and the reason, of course, as you know, the reason we don't do that is because of the word new in news. it becomes the same old, same old thing in members of congress, with some members of congress, with some elected officials who made up their stock in trade. i wanted to know if you felt like you had a proposed solution to this, in addition to the diagnosis. >> i don't have a proposed solution. we have some ideas. and we are engaging our community in colorado to find a better way forward. but it seemed to me like we could no longer waits to acknowledge the problem, until we had a solid solution. because the problem, the fact that we will hold an elected official accountable if they say something file once, but so long as somebody is willing to make it their personality, we'll just kind of naked into the kick. that is deeply corrosive to the way our communities function, the communities that we serve. and even if we're not sure the answer is, we need to acknowledge a double standard so that we can do something about it. >> right. and i do think it is really smart of you and really insightful to point out that this is unfair to people who comport themselves in a decent way. that if they said something once that was vial, then that attention, all the opprobrium would come down on them, where is all you have to do to avoid that is just to say it all the time. it also creates, i think, a sort of cycle in which members of congress, other elected officials, people in the public sphere who realize that they benefit from always being, over the edge, always been cruel, false, bigoted things. those folks know that they create a dilemma for the local news, for the national news, into whether or not to even cover these remarks. whether or not to play them, because even in your commentary, playing congresswoman for his speech, you in effect repeated the claims that she made against congresswoman omar, which are false claims, but you can't talk about or criticize what she said without advancing the thing that she's trying to spread. we i think rachel, that the elected officials who do this. and there are very few of them in colorado, at least. know exactly what they're doing. it doesn't matter if we put something on television and say it's false, they have the opportunity to get it out there, doesn't matter if we put it out and saves bigoted, they still get to put it out there. so, the trick for us going forward, and i think the challenge for a lot of local journalist covering elected officials and members of congress, is to figure out how do we report on what they're saying, if it's cruel, or false, or bigoted, without just relentlessly amplifying it, but also without simply ignoring it? so, for asinine news, the nbc station in colorado, we've gone public with the double standard. to acknowledge how it benefits politicians like congresswoman boebert, who are willing to say things that are not true, or a bigoted, or are cruel. and at the same time is unfair to all the other public servants who choose to hold themselves to a higher standard. >> and in so doing, and in so doing it the way that you, have i think you've started a really important conversation that's important not only to locations where there are individual politicians playing that game, but to all of us who are trying to think of how to responsibility, actively, and effectively cover wet is literally news. kyle clark, kay usa anchor, managing editor of next with how clark, kyle, i really appreciate you making time to join us. congratulations on starting this conversation, i think it's brilliant, i think you've done a great job. thank you. >> thank you. >> all right, we'll be right back, stay with us. all right, we'll be right back, stay with us back, stay with us now subaru is the largest automotive donor to make-a-wish and meals on wheels. and the largest corporate donor to the aspca and national park foundation. get a new subaru during the share the love event and subaru will donate two hundred and fifty dollars to charity. my auntie called me. she said uncle's had a heart attack. i needed him to be here. your heart isn't just yours. protect it with bayer aspirin. be sure to talk to your doctor heads up, monday, this monday, before you begin an aspirin regimen. working to have a supreme court day. mondays the first decision day were will actually get rulings from the supreme court for this term. the most 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