♪♪ a good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome, everyone, to "alex witt reports." here's what's happening. well, to say that tomorrow will be a busy day in washington is something of an understatement. steve bannon is expected to surrender to authorities. president biden will sign that bipartisan infrastructure bill into law. both the house and senate are back in session. and the president meets virtually with chinese president xi jinping for the first time since taking office. it all comes as new polling shows the president's policies are more popular than the president himself. 63% of americans supporting the infrastructure bill, 58% supporting the build back better act. while president biden's approval rating hits a new low at just 41%, mostly driven by fears over inflation. director of the economic council addressing those concerns this morning. >> there's no doubt inflation is high right now. it's affecting americans' pocketbooks and affecting their outlook. but it's important that we put this in context. when the president took office, we were facing an all-out economic crisis. because of the actions the president is taking, we're now seeing an economic recovery that most people didn't think was possible then. so the challenge we have now is how to build on the strength of that recovery while also addressing the price issues. >> mike, another welcome to you on this sunday. tomorrow the president will sign that infrastructure bill. so what are you hearing about the ceremony and about who's planning to attend? >> reporter: well, alex, just a few moments ago we actually saw the president return to the white house. he spent part of the weekend at camp david. back here ahead of a very consequential monday, one of the really most significant days in his early presidency so far. let's start with that bill-signing ceremony tomorrow, a real opportunity for the white house. think, alex, how much have we been talking about the pieces of the president's agenda that have been taken out of the two big bills that he's been pushing forward, the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the reconciliation measure? tomorrow is an opportunity throughout the week we're also going to hear the president talk about what is in the legislation that he is about to sign into law. he's going to talk about as well how he got it done. part of the guest list is including mayors and governs, business and labor who are all really vocal and stressing the needs that the president was trying to meet here with this legislation. also the republicans who supported it, some of those who were in negotiations with the president to try to get this done. so it's a significant opportunity for the president to talk about two promises kept. one, getting infrastructure finally done, and, two, doing it in a bipartisan fashion. but we know the white house has also been dealing with the concerns about inflation. and as the president hits the road, last week we saw it when he was in baltimore talking about supply chain issues. this week we'll hear it as well. inflation is a real concern. and that's part of the message that brian deese was hitting on when he was on "the sunday show." >> if you look at the strong wage gains that have happened and the direct support we provided to families, the disposable income for a typical family is actually up about 2% even after you take into account inflation. that far doesn't reduce the frustration any more when somebody's going to the gas station, they see prices go up. but it does mean that we are well positioned to try to address these challenges going forward. >> and, alex, i talk about tomorrow being a consequential day. it's not just because of the bill signing but because of what you just mentioned as well. the president having that first virtual meeting at least with china president xi jinping. these two know each other quite well. the president as vice president traveled to china in 2011 for the first high-level meetings that any world leader had at the time with xi jinping who was then the vice president. i actually traveled with biden on that trip. so they know each other well. they had multiple meetings. but think about the relation between that virtual meeting tomorrow and the way the president has also been messaging about the need for infrastructure, about the need for the reconciliation bill. he said this is all about the u.s. finally making the investments in its own people in, its infrastructure, in its people that other countries especially china have already been outpacing us on. he's talked about the need for america to show that democracy can still deliver for its people, especially when autocracies like china are trying to make a bet that they are going to be the ones ruling the 21st century. these two events happening on the same day for this administration, given how they have really been linked in the president's mind throughout this year. >> points well taken. when you said that the former vice president had traveled to china, of course you've been on that trip with him. thank you so much. appreciate you, mike. joining me right now congressman seth moulton, democrat from massachusetts. before we get to infrastructure, i want to ask you about steve bannon. you know he's expected to surrender to authorities tomorrow after being in contempt of congress. >> it's not going to happen like you think it's going to happen. it's going to be quite extraordinarily different. and all i can say is, strap in, the war room posse, you've made this happen and it's game day. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. just understand this. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it's going to be moving, it's going to be quick. >> i mean, you are someone who has served multiple tours in iraq fighting for our country. how can steve bannon not answer for comments like that? >> well, this is obviously why he's being indicted, alex, and why he needs to show up. a lot of people will respond to this by saying how much they hate steve bannon. but it's not about whether you love or hate steve bannon. it's about the fact that we are a nation of laws and nobody is above the law. the trump administration operated for four years thinking that everybody associated with them was above the law, and it's time for them to pay the price. >> former chief of staff, we're going to talk about him, congressman mark meadows also defied that subpoena from house investigators, the select committee of course now considering contempt proceedings there. so if that's the case, would you support it? >> yes, absolutely, because, again, this isn't about the personalities, it's about the law. nobody is above the law. we all have to follow it. that's the deal that we make when we're united states citizens, when we live in this country. so, look, this isn't that complicated, alex. they have to comply. this is obvious in terms of the legality. and when you hear these tapes, i think it becomes pretty obvious to the american public why this committee wants to speak with these folks. >> yeah, agreed. all right, tomorrow we have the president signing that bipartisan infrastructure bill into law. but it comes as the 13 republicans in the house who voted for that bill. you know they are receiving vicious backlash. congressman fred upton even receiving death threats. what do you make about that? we are talking about roads and bridges and internet access. what does that say about the political climate right now when everybody uses that but it's become a partisan issue? >> i mean, it's extraordinary how things that used to bring the country together would even bring congress together have now become so divisive politically. most people can't even explain to you why infrastructure would be divisive. it's just a game of who wins and who loses. and a lot of this comes from the presidency of donald trump. it was not that long ago that congress was able to pass bills like this in a bipartisan fashion. sure, there were still a lot of people who played politics with it, who voted with the republicans just because republican leadership said to vote against something. or same thing on the other side. but now it's become a blood sport. and the american people are threatening lawmakers for doing the right thing. no one can argue that this is not the right thing to do here. we need to invest in infrastructure. we can have a debate about exactly how it's done. but the idea that a few republicans would support something that republicans have supported for literally centuries, i mean, it's a little silly. >> yeah. switching gears here. congressman pramila jayapal said -- where do you stand on that? do you think this bill has enough votes to pass right now? because some moderates are weighing that cbo score. >> that is the plan. the speaker said that she would like to get this done before thanksgiving. but what the moderates are asking for is basically to just understand what it costs. it's not a crazy request. we should know what things cost before we pass them through congress. we really should hold hearings to understand the return on investment that we're going to get for these different parts of the bill. the problem is that it's changed so much so frequently. we don't fully understand what we're voting on. so, to take our time to make sure we get this right is okay. i fully support the build back better act. i think it's critical that we move forward and make these investments for the future of the american people. the president is right about this. but to jump all down the throats of moderates who just simply want to say we want to understand what it costs before we put this on american taxpayers is a pretty reasonable request. >> yeah. let me get specific with some of your efforts of late. this piece of legislation that you and some of your democratic colleagues have introduced. it's in honor of veterans day and would provide benefits to descendants of black world war ii veterans. tell us about that. >> well, let me just start with where this idea came from, alex. i'm one of many, many veterans who was able to go to the school after i served in the marines because of the gi bill. it made it possible for me. it's opened up extraordinary opportunities. i certainly would not be sitting here today on your show as a member of the united states congress if not for the educational opportunities afforded me by the gi bill. but what i never knew was that tens of thousands of american heroes from world war ii were denied these benefits just because they're black. it was actually a fellow marine who used to work in my office mike devon who called me up and said, this is wrong. and most people don't know about it. i said i don't know about this. but we should write a piece of legislation to fix it. so we wrote the legislation, it was not easy. we got jim clyburn to be the very first co-sponsor. who an honor that was. we've got an all-star team of civil rights leaders. i'm humbled by the company that i am on this bill -- that i have on this bill. but i'm proud to move forward because this is writing an historic justice, it's correcting a wrong and it's something that most americans don't even know happened. >> i don't know if you can see me right now, but i'm applauding. that is excellent. good effort, a for effort and i hope it sails through. thank you so much. it's always good to see you. >> alex, good to see you too. developing in kenosha, wisconsin, heightened tensions as the city awaits tomorrow's closing arguments in the trial of kyle rittenhouse. another welcome to you on this sunday, allison. what's the latest there in kenosha? >> reporter: hey, alex. well, the national guard is deployed. and they are on standby should local authorities ask for help in kenosha. they have been placed on standby because there is a fear, a concern about the potential for some sort of violent reaction once the jury delivers their verdict. >> i just hope everything stays peaceful. the city can't have any more of this. >> reporter: there's a quiet tension in the city of kenosha as the prosecution and defense prepare to deliver closing arguments in the homicide trial of kyle rittenhouse. the governor is urging people outside kenosha to avoid the city this week. >> i think everyone's kind of in limbo, scared, we're really fragile right now. >> reporter: rittenhouse is charged with six crimes, killing two and wounding another with an assault rifle during protests following the police shooting of a black man. the most serious charge is intentional homicide. rittenhouse testified it was self-defense. >> i didn't do anything wrong. i defended myself. >> reporter: some say it was an emotional moment. others say it was all for sure. nba star lebron james tweeting, what tears? i didn't see one. the judge in case said he's inclined to let the jury consider some lesser charges, but he hasn't issued his final ruling. >> because this case hasn't gone so well for the prosecution, the request for lesser included offenses is probably more to get some conviction on any crime because they may not be feeling too confident about first-degree homicide at this point. >> reporter: there are currently 18 jurors, and the final 12 will be randomly selected out of this drum. what are you expecting to hear in closing arguments come monday? >> look for the prosecution to focus on the fact that kyle rittenhouse there was for a gun, and they say that's because he was looking for trouble. but look for the defense to take the jury back to the elements and the burden of the prosecution, which is not only to prove each and every element of the crime but to disprove beyond a reasonable doubt how rittenhouse's claim of self-defense. >> reporter: most people here are just going about their normal lives as this trial has taken place, there really haven't been many protesters or any commotion outside of the courthouse. but this is a very divisive case. and to give you a sense of that, this weekend it was discovered that someone posted the home address of the lead prosecutor in this case on a message board that is often used by far-right groups. the post was quickly taken down by an administrator, but some saw that as a veiled threat. alex? 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>> alex, that's certainly what we've seen. if you look at the older age groups, so kids 16 to 18, just over half are fully vaccinated. kids between the ages of 12 to 15 less than half are fully vaccinated. and the number one predictor of a child being vaccinated is whether their parents are vaccinated. but even among children whose parents have been vaccinated, there is a bit more hesitancy. so i do think it's going to take time to get these numbers up. >> okay. what about the boosters? because you have california, colorado, and new mexico, all three states allowing all adults to get their third dose. do you agree of the states expanding their booster eligibility? >> there's a reason we have an fda, that are this isn't left in the hands of the average person to make decisions about whether they should get a certain medication, whether they should be on chemotherapy, whether they should be getting a vaccine right now. so i do have concerns about circumventing the system. however, i understand people are very anxious. we are at the beginning of another surge. colorado is in the depths of that right now. and if you look at who is ending up in the hospital, 80 to 85 to 90% of those are people who have not been vaccinated at all. and the remainder are largely elderly people who may have had a breakthrough infection after vaccination. and, so, our number one priority is vaccinate the unvaccinated. but, secondly, give those extra doses, those booster doses to the elderly, to people living in long-term care facilities like nursing homes, and to highly immunocompromised people. >> surgeon general vivek murthy warned of a possible uptick of cases during the winter. do you agree with that expectation? can we see what's happening in europe right now happen here? there's a big surge there, do you know what's causing it? >> i am really concerned. i share the same concerns as surgeon general murthy. we have trended about three to four weeks behind europe here in the united states throughout the pandemic. they are experiencing a large surge. if you look at countries like germany, the netherlands, austria that, in fact, have higher vaccination rates than we do, that started vaccinating later. so you have less waning immunity. they are experiencing very steep surges in cases right now. probably related, in part, to the weather getting cooler. so people are indoors more. they're masking less. they're being less cautious. this is really not the time to be letting down our guard. >> yeah, and travel, by the way, coming up with the holiday season. people want to be together, understandably. >> they do. and i think, unfortunately, when we are spending time with family and friends, we're going to be the least cautious. we're going to be letting down our guard, not masking up, not taking those extra precautions when we're around the people who are closest to us. >> all right, dr. celine gounder, thank you so much for weighing in. and stay healthy. i appreciate you. in just a moment, some key points to consider in tomorrow's closing arguments in the kyle rittenhouse trial and why the judge's instructions to the jury could have a profound impact on the verdict. up next, steve bannon will reportedly turn himself in tomorrow to answer charges. what to expect as he faces the consequences of contempt. ♪ ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ so you have diabetes, here are some easy rules... no sugar. no pizza. no foods you love. stressed? 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here's adam schiff. he's a member of the house select committee. here's what he said on that topic to chuck todd this morning. >> it'll have to be made on a case-by-case basis. i certainly wouldn't want to prevent the justice department from prosecuting people who committed criminal conduct, for example, on january 6th, by giving them immunity to testify before our committee. so we have to weigh whatever equities the justice department and justice system may have. but i think with certain specific witnesses, we ought to consider it. >> so, adam schiff there is referring to an idea that was floated by jamie raskin, another member of the panel. if we want to offer this deal to immunity to certain individuals who might have information that may be self-incriminating. going after the big fish here and not the small fry. >> julie, i had a little bit of an audio issue right there which i hope has been fixed, but thank you very much. let's bring in a law professor. melissa, i'm going to be honest, right now, i can't hear anything. although you haven't said anything, say a quick hi. let me see if i can hear you. >> how are you doing, alex? 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(all) to screening! all right. i'm back, and i'm going to have a few choice words for whoever sabotaged my audio. but we're going to bring in melissa murray, nyu law professor and msnbc contributor. so here we go. what do you expect to see tomorrow with regard to steve bannon? is it the beginning of a circus? or is it the first day of a case that the justice department can actually win? >> maybe it's a little of both, alex. it definitely will be a media circuit when steve bannon shows up to turn himself in. but i think the real question is what does this development mean for the other trump associates who have also been recalcitrant with regard to this committee probe? so there's always the question of mark meadows on friday. he issued a statement saying that he would not be complying with his subpoena. it's an open question whether he will change his mind, given that it seems like the department of justice is actually quite exercised to make sure that the american people have the facts about what happened on january 6th. >> and good points, but steve bannon, he was out of the administration in 2017. so, his use of executive privilege was far more loosely, you know, adhered to than someone like mark meadow who actually served like mark meadows was there as chief of staff. do you really think these people who orbit in trump world are going to be scared by this? or is part of the reason they're not talking, anyway, just to stall? >> well, it is certainly true that steve bannon's claim of executive privilege was far more attenuated than that would be the case for someone who is in the administration at the time that the requested information is sought. but that doesn't mean that there is a blanket claim of privilege. you cannot seek executive privilege for situations that, for example, might be associated with actually organizing a coup against the government in preventing the peaceful transfer of power. that's not the sort of information that's contemplated by executive privilege. i come become to what i've said about all of these events. this is an administration that historically stonewalled congress. it's also an administration that knows that in just a few months we're going to have midterm elections, control of the house may be up for grabs and if the house changes hands, then this select committee will certainly go away. so, again, i think this recalcitrant is part of a broader plan and strategy to run out the clock on this special committee. >> i think you're 100% right there. changing gears now and talking about the ahmaud arbery case. what do you make of racially charged comments from one defense lawyer and the judge even acknowledging that racial overtones are at play in this case? and which side stands to benefit? >> so it's hard to say. again, the fact of the racial overtones has always plagued this case. it would be hard for it not to lace the entire discourse around this case given what happened to ahmaud arbery and the circumstances surrounding his death. the whole question of whether or not black pastors are welcome in the courtroom. that seems to me just blanket above and beyond. it is a public courtroom, it is a public courthouse, all members of the public are permitted to be there so long as they are not disruptive and they are abiding by the rules of entrance to those buildings. and, so, the idea that a defense lawyer would say we're done with having black pastors here for some reason i think really is above and beyond the pal. this is a public setting, a public hearing, and all members of the public are obliged and have a right to be there. will>> and, in fact, we have a hundred black pastors who are scheduled to rejoin that effort on thursday. it's being organized by attorney benjamin crumb. as we move on now to the closing arguments scheduled tomorrow for kyle rittenhouse, the city of kenosha, it has the national guard on standby. what do you expect to hear in the judge's instructions to the jury, and how much influence do you think he's going to have on the verdict? >> well, to be clear, the jury instructions are the bible that the jury will use as they go back to deliberate about whether or not the state has proved its charges against mr. rittenhouse beyond a reasonable doubt. it's a very high standard. as we know, the prosecution asked to have lesser included charges in those jury instructions. and that perhaps might be an ad that the prosecution realizes there may be some weaknesses in its case in chief and trying to prove first-degree intentional murder against mr. rittenhouse. so the fact that these lesser included offenses allows the jury an opportunity to provide a conviction on a lesser charge not necessarily intentional murder but one that would come with some kind of sentence for kyle rittenhouse even if they're unable to reach agreement about the more extreme charge. and, of course, that also perhaps obviates the risk of a mistrial. >> both of these cases, arbery and rittenhouse defenses, the teams seem to appear to be leading very heavily on self-defense laws. there are some analysts who draw parallels with the trayvon martin case. do you get a sense that these laws are set up to give the person with the gun more rights than the person who's killed? >> well, again, we've had a lot of developments in the laws around self-defense, the stand your ground law, which was so much of an issue in the trayvon martin case. all of these are designed to provide individuals who are in a situation where they are supposed to be defending themselves with more authority to do so, whether it's with a gun or with deadly force, all of that. but, again, as we've seen in all of these cases, these stand your ground laws, these laws that expand the traditional laws around self-defense may perhaps charge individuals with the opportunity to act in a way that we really expect of those who are state officials, not necessarily private citizens. >> okay. melissa murray, thank you so much, and thank you as well for sticking around a little longer than you anticipated. i appreciate that. there's a new poll that shows almost half of all republican respondents, 43% are against public schools teaching the history of racism. that poll was taken after virginia's gubernatorial election appeared to turn on that issue. and a new movement to ban certain books from school libraries is gaining momentum in both virginia as well as several other states. joining me now, roland martin, host and managing editor of "roland martin unfiltered." here we go, roland. why are the republicans more resistant to this teaching of history? i mean, it's history. there's no going back and changing history. from the point of view of those who were and still are victims of racism, address that one first. >> it's easy because the republican party, they want to cheat his story and not actual history. this is white fear. i'm literally publishing a book in the first quarter of next year on this very issue. and this is the fear about the browning of america. this whole notion of the redefinition of american history. the reality is we were all taught these various things that excluded african-americans and asian-americans and native americans. that's why republicans hate the 1619 project. that's why they've always hated folks who are talking about history. dr. king often talked about this, others did as well. that's what you're seeing right now. it's reflective in their politics. the issue is a lot of these folks say i'm not racist, but they are racial. >> but, roland, have you had a chance to talk to these folk who's say the history of racism shouldn't be taught? is there anything you think you could say to convince them? >> well here's what happens. they say, look, these things happened long ago, why can't you just move along? okay, you haven't moved along from 9/11. what about some other things that you haven't moved on from. and so there is this constant situation of telling people of color you need to move along, but the other problem is they aren't seeing how this issue of race and what the real american history is, is important for white americans to know and understand. so what really needs to happen is you need white children, white youth, white teens saying to their parents you need to back off. this is what we're seeing, i'm telling you, and this is not going to go away. this has nothing to do with trump. i said this in 2009. this is going to be the next 50 to 100 years in america because what we have seen in the past has been, frankly, america seen through the prism of white america. now black folks, asians, latinos, native americans now get to have a say. we now have people of color who are hosting shows, who own their own shows and networks like myself. people who are running media outlets. we've always been defined through the prism of whiteness in america. now all of a sudden we're looking at america through a different lens. that's very unsettling and uncomfortable. that's why, watch for the key phrases, ooh, the redefinition of what it means to be american, these are not our values. understand what that means when you hear those phrases and how republicans use those phrases to drive white anger at the ballot box, which you saw in virginia. >> we did. congressman paul gosar is facing censure of that cartoon figure of him stabbing alexandria ocasio-cortez to death. aoc is one of the most threatened members of congress. what kind of consequences do you think he should face? >> well, first of all, republicans have no guts whatsoever. gosar a white nationalist, white supremacist who is in congress. we know exactly what he is doing. but the fact that house minority leader kevin mccarthy is gutless and his party is gutless, i need everybody to understand the republican party has no problem with thugs like gosar being in congress, folks like marjorie taylor greene. this is who they are. and, so, democrats need to understand this is what you're dealing with. folks who have no shame, there is no bottom. he should be kicked out of congress. at the least he should be censured. but they're not going to do it, because, you know what? they are appealing to the people who gosar, who love what he's doing. they need their votes, and they understand that. they always understand it. he always understood that, and that's why you're not going to see any action taken against him because they want those folks at the polls in 2022. >> roland martin, i want to thank you in particular for spending part of your birthday with me today, my friend. thank you so much. happy birthday. cheers to you. well, was one of the biggest nuclear accidents in u.s. history and was never fully cleaned up. now imagine living near it and not knowing about that, that nightmare, next. entional thinkie see things differently, so you can focus on what matters most. whether it's ensuring food arrives as fresh as when it departs... being first on the scene when every second counts... or teaching biology without a lab. we are the leader in 5g and a partner who delivers exceptional customer support and 5g included in every plan. so, you get it all, without trade-offs. unconventional thinking, it's better for business. kevin! kevin? 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>> it's hard to put a number on it to be honest with you. the communities around the site are homes to like half a million people so it's almost impossible to tell exactly how many people have been affected by this. but the fact of the matter is this fight has become generational why this is going on for decades now. and so the number is just probably unfathomable. >> i offer some details from the film in which you discovered it stems from an incident in 1959. this lab experienced a partial nuclear meltdown and released radiation and somehow the public remained in the dark for decades. how did that happen? how did they keep this a secret for so long? >> that's a great question. we were fortunate enough to talk with a former employee that worked there well in his 80s now and 19 at the time when he worked at the site and there the night of the partial nuclear meltdown and the story he tells is the supervisors told them to be quiet and he was quiet and the colleagues for 20 years and since -- because of that the powers at play have done a great job to sweep the issue under the rug and it's because of years and years of work by journalists and doctors in that area it's because of their work this story has come to light. >> has the company responded? have they offered comment on the film and the allegations? >> we reached out during production to boeing, nasa, the regulating body in california and they all declined to speak with us. boeing actually never responded to any of our correspondence. >> for some reason. okay. in the dark of the valley is the film. thank you so much for joining us why i've seen previews. watch it tonight 10:00 p.m. eastern. thank you. that does it for me. i'll see you saturday at moon. yasmin vossoughian continues the coverage. ge supplement with vitamin c and b vitamins to help energize and replenish. dayquil severe is a max strength daytime, coughing, power through your day, medicine. new from vicks. ♪♪ hi mr. charles. we made you dinner. aww, thank you. ♪♪ ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ to unveil them to the world. when our daughter and her kids moved in with us... our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. turns out it's mostly water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. 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