big deal. sorry we're not sharing the screen more today. i want your thoughts before we pick it up. >> fantastic, elie is pulling outlookers now because merrick garland has done his job and i hope this is the beginning of more prosecutions like that. if you try to take over the country, you should be held accountable. >> i agree. i'll pick it up from here now. good evening to everyone at home. i'm tiffany cross in for joy reid tonight and we begin with the contempt of congress in a major breaking story late today a federal grand jury handed down criminal charges against steven k. bannon, the long time trump confident under investigation for his involvement in january 6th. nbc news reports the 67-year-old is expected to surrenderer to law enforcement of monday and set to appear in court that afternoon. you guys remember last month bannon willfully defied a subpoena from the select committee for douments and testify refusing to show up on the day of his scheduled deposition and his defiance prompted a rare partisan vote to refer him for contempt, a vote that saw a mere nine republicans to uphold the authority of congress. now, today's indictment charges bannon with two counts, one for his refual to provide testimony and another to turnover documents and each of these counts carries a sentence of up to one year behindbannon, the department of justice says to trump's closest allies they cannot weasel their way out of a lawful subpoena and more over it shows they face real consequences if they don't compile. that's unwelcome news to mark meadows who has been playing a dangerous game of chicken with investigators. for months he has been snubbing the committee's efforts and in september, he delayed the deposition and then he denied the authority by claiming executive privilege and just today, he out right disappeared, ghosted refusing to show up for his scheduled deposition. now, as chairman congressman bennie thompson and liz cheney said today steve bannon's indictment should send a clear message to anyone who thinks they can ignore the select committee or try to stone wall the investigation. no one is above the law. we will not hesitate to use the tools at our disposal to get the information we need. a member of the january 6th committee is going to join me shortly but first, glen and elie is a justice correspondent for the nation and bringer of the fire. glen, i want to kick off with you. listen, this is a huge deal that happened today and definitely send as strong message however, this doesn't guarantee that steve bannon is going to cooperate. this says you have to show up. do we anticipate that he will still cooperate with the select committee and be truthful in his response? >> that's a great question, tiffany, because contempt of congress, criminal contempt is designed to punish steve bannon for the crimes he committed. but the inherent contempt power of congress is designed to enable congress itself to enforce its own subpoenas that and compel testimony, but here is where these two different vehicles begin to come together. now that steve bannon has been indicted on two criminal offenses and is facing up to two years in prison, the attorneys, the prosecutors at the u.s. attorney's office may decide to enter into plea negotiations with him and those plea negotiations could take the form of look, steve, if you plead guilty and agree to testify truthfully and fully before congress, then we may recommend a sentence of probation or 30 days or 60 days or 90 days in prison. so this criminal prosecution can now be leveraged by the d.c. u.s. attorneys prosecuting the case to try to compel him to testify truthfully. now, will he decide to take that avenue? can steve bannon put three truthful words together if they might incriminate his man, his mentor, his protector, donald trump? perhaps not but at least that's another vehicle and another avenue that's now open. >> yeah, absolutely it's open and elie, let's remind our viewers, this is a guy used to lying. i mean, this whole build the wall farce they had, he was living high on the hog on a yacht while people were giving their hard earned dollars for this extremely racist policy that the trump administration was trying to push. now that he's 67, and indicted, i think this is what people were anticipating. what is the doj going to do now that we've seen that, what message do you think this sends? i have to anticipate the long list of subpoenas that, all those folks were most certainly on the phone with their lawyers today. >> look, i'm happy that garland did something. i believed in the strategy, let's ignore the fact that you're late to the party and embrace the fact you showed up at all. this is a good move from the doj and good move from garland but glen would know this better than i do. let's say steve bannon doesn't take it and decides he's going to take the wait and hold out. how quickly can we get from where we are now to an actual criminal prosecution of steve bannon? do you think we can maybe get it done by the holidays? okay. let's say we get it done by the holidays. it's in front of a judge. if that happened to be a trump judge, that's okay. let's say you get it in front of a judge and he gets convicted at district court level. how long does that process take? we're into valentine's day and maybe into march. but let's say he loses at the district court level. then he appeals to the supreme court where you have six conservative justices waiting. even if the supreme court decides they're not going to be partisan hacks that day if we're talking about an april in march or april, do they hear the case by june? no. or does john roberts decide he'll delay hearing the appeal until september or october when the supreme court is back in session and let's say he loses is the supreme court, does bannon lose in october of 2022 right before the midterm -- you see what i'm saying? >> i do. >> if that's the calculous, if that is the calculous steve bannon plays, that might be the calculous mark meadows plays. there are lots of opportunities here for trump cronies to continue to delay, delay, delay, try to get to the midterms and hope republicans take over and end the select committee and that's why glen's first pound inherent contempt of congress. put them in jail now, make them, force them to respect the subpoena as opposed to punishing them after the fact for refusing to respect the subpoena. that might have been the stronger way to go. >> the doj took awhile here. they had to needle through thorning issues here if they approached from the executive privilege. i'm curious, previously there is a case of you can't go after these under lings because of executive privilege. i'm curious how that's the policy because one, donald trump is no longer in office. he's not president anymore. and two, how was the doj able to compile with that? you know, instead of saying your executive privilege doesn't exist anymore. you're indicted. >> first of all, steve bannon had exactly zero executive privileged rights to invoke, none. now we could talk about mark meadows who just committed the exact same crime today for which steve bannon was indicted and we can talk about whether he will have a slightly greater opportunity to raise executive privilege but this did take 22 days from the day that congress voted steve bannon in contempt and referred him for criminal prosecution and i actually think there is one data point that answers the question why did it take 22 days because remember, just last week, the senate confirmed the new u.s. attorney for the district of colombia, former colleague of mine matt graves, he's only been in the job one week. before he arrived, there was an acting u.s. attorney, a gentleman named channing phillips, wonderful guy, great lawyer but what i can tell you tiffany from inside the department of justice where i spent nearly a quarter of a century, acting u.s. attorneys who are not presidentially appointed and senate confirmed generally don't make any bold moves so i think channing phillips did yomen's work trying to keep the train running on time which is not easy prosecuting hundreds and hundreds of insurrectionists but think about this, one week in the job and matt graves, the new top dog at the d.c. u.s. attorney's office said indict steve bannon. let's hope that's a sign of things to come and they will have their sights on mark meadows and steven miller who was yucking it up on the fox entertainment network laughing at the rule of law and kayleigh mcenany and anybody else that decides to defy a congressional subpoena prosecute them. >> i think that is the message here, elie. because look, it's one thing for these under lings and sheep who are following the fox to try to over throw the government. it's another for his inner circle from kayleigh mcenany to steve bannon to compile. if people continue to thumb their nose at the committee, if nobody is held accountable, what message would that send to would be insurrections who would not like how the midterm elections turn out next year? >> yeah, a coup that isn't punished is just practice. it's just practice. if you don't punish the people who try to over throw the government, they will try to over throw the government again until they get it right. prosecuting these people and holding these people accountable is critical work. it's critical work for the select committee and critical work the fbi and department of justice should be doing independently of congress, which i guess we don't always know what goes on there so maybe there are still bigger fish for the fbi to fry as well coming down the pipe. we can only hope. but some kind of accountability is critical to help our country move forward. >> all right. thank you very much, glen, elie, we'll bring in now congressman pete aguilar of california. he's a member of said january 6th select committee that we've been talking about. congressman, must be a busy day for you. thank you for making time to join us. major news out of the committee today. i'm curious your thoughts on what that means for trump's former chief of staff mark meadows who again today defied the committee's authority. >> thanks for having me, tiffany. this is an important step for the rule of law and i think that's exactly what the department of justice upheld here is that the decisions that steve bannon made have consequences. he chose to defy a lawful subpoena and anyone else should take note including mr. meadows. i appreciate the swift action as the prior guest mentioned, this was a process and took a little bit of time and it's supposed to but they upheld their duty to send this to the grand jury is what the law says so we would expect they continue to do so and uphold those rules and laws if we take further action. >> so, among the nearly 35 subpoenas that out there, i'm curious given the news that happened today, has the committee heard from any of the other people on the list of subpoenas that where maybe they had a change of heart and proactively reaching to the say they're willing to cooperate? >> well, 16 of those subpoenas that went out this week and so those have some dates to provide information in the next few weeks and come in for an interview. i want get into the conversations that were had earlier today but i can tell you that we continue to make progress. we've had 150 witness interviews so far. we continue to engage people and obviously, we have those subpoena dates as well and we'll continue to push and find the truth and tell the story of what happened on january 5th and 6th in the insurrection and attack on democracy because it's important for our legislative work that the committee continues to identify areas moving forward and it's important for the country we tell this story completely. >> i want to go back to trump's former chief of staff mark meadows. he doesn't appear to be too worried. in fact, he was appearing on a conservative media outlet earlier today after the news of the indictment came down. original he he was searching for documenteds to cooperate with the committee and did an about face saying he felt duty bound to follow trump's lead on this. i'm just curious your thoughts if he remains defiant, do you anticipate that we will see mark meadows indicted, as well? >> his posture is laughable. to not come before the committee and talk about work previously and so it's important we continue to do this work and we're going to continue to have a conversation about mr. meadows in the future. i'll let chairman thompson and vice chair cheney continue to break that news but we continue to be serious about this and i think that's what the public can expect and the committee is meeting and we're having conversations and we'll continue to seek the truth. >> well, your chairman made some comments this weekend and said meadows has no valid legal basis for not submitting to question from the committee. we'll certainly keep our eye on this developing story. thank you for joining us on a very busy day today. still ahead for you guys at home, much more on tonight's breaking news. the indictment of steve bannon hours before the doj decision came down was telling his audience that trump republicans were quote taking overall the elections. also, the stunning recording of donald trump defending the hanging of mike pence threat made on january 6th. not that stunning. plus, as the trial continues for the three men that hunted down ahmaud arbery and killed him, one of the defense attorneys singled out my colleague, friend reverend sharpton and said we don't want any more black pastors coming in here. reverend sharp will join us later. 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>> well, really, for nine months we've asked for documents and that's all we want are the documents and what we found is not only have subpoenas that been ignored before information has been hidden. the efforts have been stone walled and i guess for us, it's all about transparency. so the american people can judge for themselves and so, you know, they may be able to ignore congress but they can't ignore the american people. >> congressman, it's all about transparency for the american people. your thoughts on mark meadows' words tonight given the news and situation we're in today. >> thank you, tiffany, for your question while democrats deliver for the people with our historic infrastructure law, enablers like bannon and mark meadows are flouting the law and americans need to ask what is mark meadows and steve bannon hiding from the american people what they said or did on january 5th or 6th and what did the former president do or not do on those crucial days? >> and the questions that the committee is eager to get answered. michael schmidt, i reminded the viewers but i want to punctuate this month. you remember steve bannon's farce with stealing funds with the build the wall fundraiser. i want you to take a listen to trump's call with the georgia secretary of state brad asking him to help him cheat. >> there is nothing wrong with saying that you recalculate. so look, all i want to do is i want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. >> who coordinated this call? chief of staff mark meadows. who does trump surround himself with? steve bannon, a well documented liar. what's your take on this situation and what do you think this means for the 30 plus other people who've been subpoenaed by the select committee? >> well, i think that the impact of this we will be able to measure by how much other people are willing to come in. the biggest problem that this investigation has is time. they want, the democrats want this investigation to be done by the late spring, early summer of next year to make sure that they have a detailed authoritative narrative of what happened around the election heading into the 2022 midterms. that is their goal. now, are people like steve bannon able to throw a wrench in that investigation by not cooperating? there are other people that have obviously indicated that they are going to take a similar stance to bannon. they have not been as dismissive as bannon and engaged the committee in someway. what you have here is -- what we'll have to see is that do other people fear being charged by the justice department like bannon and do they come in and participate and do they participate in ways that illuminate the major questions around what happened in the leadup to the insurrection and during it? so the -- it's an extreme and, you know, extraordinary measure by the justice department here. it is sending a clear message, but we'll have to see how much others respond to it to know the true impact on the fact gathering of the committee. >> congressman, michael makes a good point. we talked the last block with our guest elie who laid out a scary calculus now people can delay, delay, delay until it's time for midterms and if the republicans take over the house, they take over congress than all these may go away. i think that's part of their plan. take a listen to steve bannon on the podcast, this is right from today, right before the indictment came down. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> remember, there are no whining and tears in the war room. we're taking action. that action is we're talking over school boards, we're taking over the republican party from the precinct committee strategy and all the elections. suck on this. >> suck on this. what do you make of steve bannon's remarks? i have to say there is some accuracy with that. most republicans trying to target local school boards, state legislatures introducing voter suppression schemes, et cetera. what's your thought here? >> first of all, i agree and michael and elie time is an issue. that's a reason i introduced legislation to authorize a house or inherent contempt power and rethat requires a vote to let us immediately use our power to enforce say subpoenas that. hopefully the house will pass that if we don't get cooperation from others. in terms of what bannon said, i note in the elections, that happened recently, some school board members lost. some won. it is by no means a republican takeover. we do have people fighting back who simply disagree with some of the crazy things that school board candidates are saying and i think it remains to be seen whether or not you can have conservatives take over school boards. it's really much more local issue and i think very few people in america want to see books banned at school brie -- libraries. >> this is something that's been going on a long time. republicans used the school board as a launching pad to introduce some of these policies. i used to work in education for awhile at the national education association and this was a political arm of our operation. really quickly before i let you go, the doj has not charged anyone with contempt in 38 years. just before i let you go, what significance do you think this has with the committee? it feels like the wind is at their back now but again, there is a lot of legal maneuvering to happen to see full cooperation. >> no one wants to be indicted and the consequences are not only a fine but also possible jail time. so if you're not steve bannon, if you're other witnesses out there, and you don't really want to go down in flames, you may just want to cooperate with the committee now knowing that the department of justice is going to indict you if you simply ignore congressional subpoenas that. >> all right. we'll certainly keep an eye. thank you both for joining us on a very busy friday evening. up next, donald trump defends the threat against his own vice president mike pence. we'll talk about that after the break. stay with us. we'll talk about t break. stay with us as someone who resembles someone else, i appreciate that liberty mutual knows everyone's unique. that's why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh, yeah. that's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ hello? 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>> no, i thought he was well protected and i heard he was in good shape. no. because i had heard he was in very good shape, but, but no -- >> those chants were terrible. >> he could have -- the people were very angry. >> they were saying hang mike pence. >> because it's common sense, it's common sense jon, that you're supposed to protect -- if you know a vote is fraudfraudul how can you pass a fraudulent vote to congress? >> coo coo, his remarks come from a march interview with jonathan karl of abc news for the upcoming book "betrayal the final act of the trump show" and with those words trump is signaling to his base that violence, even murder is justified in the name of the big lie. now, we should note that pence was not in good shape as trump falsely claimed. he was evacuated just seconds before the mob could reach him and narrowly escaped with his life. now, that's not to mention that trump literally directed the insurrectionists to seek pence out specifically targeting him in a tweet as the violence was unfolding on national tv. simply put, trump almost had mike pence killed, and now he's saying he's okay with that. but this is not surprising given his sick fascination with violence, which has been abundantly clear. >> knock the crap out of him would you, seriously? okay. just knock the hell -- i promise you, i will pay for the legal fees. in the good ol' days this doesn't happen because they used to treat them very, very rough. in the good ol' days they'd rip him out of that seat so fast. you know what they used to do to guys like that in a place like this? they would be carried out on a stretcher, folks. >> if nothing else, donald trump is consistent but we've recently seen how the republican party is following trump's lead embracing the threat of political violence to acquire power. madison kau thorn, marjorie taylor greene, matt gaetz and kevin mccarthy himself have spoken of using physical violence against political targets. joining me now is david jolly a former republican congressman from florida who is no longer affiliated with the party and my friend, angela, political strike that strategists. >> i'm on one today. i think this is the clap back we were all waiting for but more importantly, i feel like there are a lot of people on capitol hill asking for the smoke. you've seen marjorie taylor greene be confrontational with her colleague and the media is talking about how shocked and stunning this revelation is. this man always invited violence. what are your thoughts about all of this? >> well, i'm wondering when people will catch up and wake up and realize there was a terrorist attack on capitol hill on january 6th and that that thing was literally being cultivated throughout the duration, not only of donald trump's presidency, not only of the campaign as you so aptly put but this was also the man that questioned the citizen ship of barack hussain obama. he thrives in this nonsense. they have accounts that create whole conspiracy theories. this is what they do and do it so well and so there is only -- it's only a matter of time before the make believe becomes real. we saw pieces of this in charlottesville when the man killed the woman. we saw with the tiki torches deal. this is happening in different parts of the country for sometime. so what we have to acknowledge now is it's only again a matter of time before it reaches the top and for him to be so flippant about mike pence. the fact we're defending mike pence's well being over the president, i think speaks volumes and i think this goes back to what we've been talking about, tif and that is human decency. this isn't political. this isn't partisan. this is about what is right and what is wrong. the fact that congressman thompson who of course chairs the select committee has issued 35 plus subpoenas that and steve bannon is one of them, he's not the only one that's saying i'm not going to participate in this. we're trying to fact find with people that are just like not trying to participate in the process at all. that's where we have to get our information from. the image i keep seeing in my mind from january 6th isn't mike pence running down the stairs but lisa rodchester on her knees praying with colleagues they would be safe and there would be a hedge faster than then. there will be people in both parties independents, libertarians, whomever, human decency has to be the base of this and where it is lacking is with donald trump and how he treated his own, the vice president he picked, his own vice president. >> while we're defending mike pence, mike pence is defending donald trump and spoke out in april before a crowd of evangelicals and did not have too many negative words quite honestly about donald trump. david jolly, you worked on capitol hill. so you and angela both spend time on capitol hill so you understand how this works. it's very scary to me to see that you have congresswoman qanon being very confrontational, you have proud boys who are running for congress. donald trump is doing this with a full embrace of the republican party. he just spoke at an event this week again, nobody has rebuked him. everyone is following suit. i'm curious your thoughts. what happens when the same group, the republican party, what if they don't like the election results next year during midterms? what do you an 'tis payment the -- anticipate the paty doing then? >> it's like the comments from republican leadership or lack of. he is the leader of today's republican party, the loudest voice in the room until somebody pushes him off the seat and he was unable to condemn the notion that some people were suggesting hanging the vice president of the united states, not only unable to condemn it but suggested it was understandable. that is a permission structure that allows the marjorie taylor greenes, the madisons and nutjobs conconference to engage. it will lead to more violence. that's the bottom line, tiffany. that's not political commentary. that's the opinion of our department of homeland security it is this right wing organic violence that could create a threat and ultimately take the lives of more people. what donald trump did there was not simply a failure to condemn. it was to further permission structure that violence in the face of your political grievance is permissible. that's the message received loud and clear by rank and file republicans. >> angela, since you've worked on capitol hill, you actually worked for chairman thompson. you're the executive director of the executive black caucus. you know this space very well. one thing we don't talk enough about is the staff. the staff experienced these things on capitol hill, as well. when i like at these gop candidates, you have sean parnell in pennsylvania whose wife accused him of excessive violence against her and children. you have a proud boy on the ballot. six of the people that participated in the january 6th insurrection, won elections a couple weeks ago. i'm curious, you still talk to staff there. one, would you feel safe working on capitol hill knowing they roam the halls of congress and do you think staff feels safe? >> no. a perfect example is marjorie taylor greene gun toting in the halls of congress. the members don't feel safe, either. we ultimately have to get down to the fact that there are some standards that have to shift, and i really don't see an end of the matter, tiffany. the reason why is of course, there was a census last year. of course, we're in the process of redistricting. many plans resubmitted and approved. they are making these districts hyper republican and when they're in hyper republican districts, they can get away with anything and we've seen with the election of donald trump that there are millions of people who either support or give permission talking about the permission structure that david just mentioned to people to do these types of things. everything is on the line. freedom is on the line at every stage whether we're talking about challenges to abortion in texas and other states following suit or the restrictions put in place to prevent us from even being able to exercise our votes in hyper partisan hyper republican districts. we have a huge challenge on our hand and if we don't really take our power back and understand what is at stake, we'll have this problem for at least another decade. >> that's right. we have to remember capitol hill is very protected. these state legislatures across the country are not protected the same way. this is a huge threat. thank you david jolly and angela rye. don't go anywhere, up next the man himself reverend al sharpton joins me. this is after a defense attorney in the trial of the men accused of murdering ahmaud arbery mentions the rev by name before saying he didn't want any more black pastors in court. keep rev's name out your mouth. stay with us. we'll be right back. t your mouth stay with us we'll be right back. become dan. tide pods child-guard pack helps keep your laundry pacs in a safe place and your child safer. to close, twist until it clicks. tide pods child-guard packaging. tide pods child-guard packaging. kevin! kevin? 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we saw her break down in court when she had to bear witness to see her son murdered for the first time. it was difficult to watch. you spoke with her and spent time with her. how are her spirits? >> she's a spiritual woman but clearly, her and the father are going through what is an unbelievable painful experience to sit in the courtroom on a daily basis with three men that killed their son only in -- and as far as i can see because of the color of his skin and to sit behind their family and now to be told they and now to be told they can choose who can sit with them according to the court they can bring in one person each. they chose to invite me to come, they both came stood before the president, invited me to come. i have been working with them and their attorney since the killing and all of a sudden make an issue. they brought others since the trial started but when i came all of a sudden became an issue. notice what they are saying tiffany, that my presence could intimidate or influence the jury. what does that supposed to mean? how many police related cases where policemen stacked the courtroom in uniform? we sat on the back row of the court having no disruption. how is that influencing and intimidating anyone other than the same way those three men on trial feel that mr. arbery was in somehow intimidating walking through a construction area that's building a house. it was blatant racism and his so-called apology today "if someone is offended" -- not even recognize the blatant statements he said, i am coming back and it's going to be a lot ministers with us for a prayer vigil to stand with this mother and father to say they are not alone. >> let it be known. the doors of the church are open in georgia when you return. happy to hear it. i want you to take a listen to the 911 call from the gentleman who called the authorities when he allegedly saw ahmaud arbery in the house. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> okay, do you have your address or the other, that house's address. >> and you said someone's breaking into it. >> what is he doing? >> he's running down the street. >> okay, okay, that's fine. i will get them out there. >> okay. that's fine, i will get them out there. i just need to know what he was doing wrong. >> what was he doing wrong? >> you see the justice playing out this week, that's the problem so often rev, mind your own business, you are not deputizing law enforcement over everybody. what is the mother saying as she hears this testimony plays out, describing arbery as a colored fella in the house. >> it's unbelievable to hear this and to think her son was killed by these people, they did not want to arrest them until the tape came out. we had began working with both the mother and father and they had been on "politics nation" with me before. you must remember almost 10 years ago next march, trayvon martin was killed the same way by a self-appointed person that wanted to take the lord in his own hands and killing trayvon martin saying he was doing something wrong. we have to stop this. we have to make sure. we are not going to stand for it. we'll be back and we'll be back strong. >> an interesting thought considering the role that white conservative evangelical plays promoting some of the domestic terrorism that we have seen. thank you so much reverend al sharpton, please be safe when you travel back down there in georgia on november 18th, we'll be in touch. we'll be right back. , we'll be in touch. we'll be right back. seriously? 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