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price you pay as president biden heads to baltimore maryland to sell the bipartisan infrastructure deal. and overnight, a major setback for former president donald trump as he tries to shield documents from the january 6th investigation. as the committee issues ten more subpoenas. will they be responded to? also this morning, shocking new video from inside that astroworld festival as we learn details about what was being said or not said between first responders and festival organizers when the chaos erupted. we'll take you live to houston, but we have got to start this morning with the brand new numbers on inflation. big numbers much higher than expected. the consumer price index. this covers everything from food to gas to energy. it jumped 6.2% compared to this time last year. that is the biggest jump we have seen in three decades. yes, this time last year thungs things were shut down. it was up 0.9% in october. it is a big deal because higher prices and supply chain issues are two of the biggest drags on how people perceive the economy. president biden will use his trip to baltimore later today to explain how the new bipartisan hard infrastructure bill can help ease some of those concerns, and you're in luck because i've got the perfect group here to help me dig deeper. michael memoli at the white house, "axios" political reporter, hans nichols, cnbc economic reporter, steve liesman, rachel bitecofer and former missouri senator, msnbc contributor, claire mccaskill. steve, what do these numbers tell us about the economic situation for the average american? because despite lots of great, strong things about our economy, it really feels like inflation is overshadowing everything else. >> i think that's right, stephanie, and i think what we learned today is two things. one is that prices are higher and price rises are wider, and what that means is more sectors of the economy are being affected by this. what this says is that a couple of things, first that the outlook is a little more bleak than we thought in the sense that by now there was a sense that maybe prices would be coming down or at least stabilizing from here. we blew through the five handle on the year-over-year inflation. that's what i was seeing from forecasters. they were expecting perhaps for november. so what we see is we see prices for food and home, all of that is up. used car prices had eased off last month. now they're back again rising at a good clip. housing costs are up. all of that is happening right now, and what that means is that a lot of people are feeling pain because we know that their earnings are not -- the increase in the earnings is not keeping pace with the increase in prices overall. >> but steve, are we leaving one thing out? one of the reasons prices of homes are so much higher, one of the reasons you can't get a dishwasher is because you've got a record number of people renovating their kitchen. this country is awash with cash. household savings are up huge. even though prices are up, people are lining up to pay them. >> that's absolutely true, and the question is how much longer this can continue. and you know, we shouldn't lose the entire thread. i think that's what your question implies. we do have good growth. we seem to have buoyant stock prices as well. we also seem to have good economic gdp growth. all of that is happening. on the other hand, you have these two factors that are out there. the one looks to be transitory. the ship's backed up at the ports. trouble getting goods across. the labor crunch, those can work themselves out. does this continue? does an inflationary mind-set set in such that we have these rising prices over a period of time that's apart from the temporary factors related to the reopening? >> claire, higher prices and shortages. this is 100% tied to covid, right? all of this is because of covid. are we forgetting that six months ago, a year ago we were in a much worse position. should democrats be reminding voters that's why the government provided three stimulus checks, expanded unemployment, expanded the child tax credit. they're going to give you more money so you have a financial cushion. economic recovery is going to be rocky. >> listen, we had a once in multigenerational pandemic. do we expect there not to be some hangover? of course there's going to be a hangover. but if the democrats would focus on all the good news out there, record job growth, record savings. we've got -- frankly, we've got a lot of people that still need to reenter the job market, but that's going to happen. we have some supply chain hiccups. now what the democrats need to do is focus on a couple of things. one is they've got to make sure they execute on this infrastructure bill. there's an opportunity here for major boon to the economy with the help of the fed on inflation if, in fact, they could execute this almost trillion dollars worth of spending that is going to get out into the bloodstream of the economy, and if they do that quickly and efficiently and start building those roads and bridges and start doing work on that electrical grid, all of that will filter down, which will ease some of the headaches that people are feeling right now about the stuff they want to buy costing a little bit more. >> hans, let's stay on that, though. facts aside, people vote based on how they feel. claire nailed it. the dow is up 5,000. you look at polling and two-thirds of americans think the economy is poor and they're only going to think it's worse when they look at these inflation numbers. how does white house manage this? >> well, what the white house is doing is talking about their two bills, the infrastructure bill and the build back better bill, which they insist will actually in the long-term bring down inflation. smarter economists and actually any sort of economist -- because i'm not one -- can make that argument. here's the problem with that argument. all the supply side aspects they're focusing on are great arguments for 2023, 2024. if you think the problem with the economy right now is that women can't get into the work force, do you really think that having universal pre-k is going to be here in january of 2022, even september of 2022, september of 2023. these are long-term changing that the white house is making, and they're trying to use it to address a short-term problem, which as claire and steve are pointing out seems to be growing on a monthly basis and the big warning sign, despite all the positive economic news, the big warning sign, every day americans drive past their gas station and they see one thing that's very tangible to them is going up, and that's fuel prices. when you filter that through the economy, does it really have an effect? maybe not. psychologically you cannot underestimate the impact of higher fuel prices. that's why i suspect we see the white house move the most immediately and tangibly. we could have a discussion about the fed. i don't want to have liesman and i talk about that. >> i could talk about the fed all day tomorrow and yesterday. i do want to move on. michael, to what hans just said, what could the president tell americans right now that's going to make them feel like things are improving? all these plans, we're not going to see them for months if not years. >> that's right, steph. that's why i think it's so significant that the very first stop the president is making on sort of what's going to be an extended sales pitch on a big legislative win that the white house wants to tout, it's not about roads, amtrak, it's not about broadband. it's about ports. it's about the supply chain issue, which really wasn't high on the radar when the president was laying out his infrastructure plan during the campaign last year and why he's going to the port of baltimore is actually to highlight a success story and the president saying to the american people this is a sign of more to come. when we've been talking about the supply chain issue, we've been talking about the west coast, the port of los angeles, the port of long beach, which deal with 40% of the nation's traffic. the port of baltimore has seen an increase in traffic through its port because they've been unable to get cargo unloaded elsewhere because of some public and private partnerships that have allowed the port of baltimore to expand their capacity. there's $17 billion in the infrastructure bill for ports. the president's going to be talking about how some of these other projects including rail is relative toy supply chain challenge as well. there's going to be an expansion project of a tunnel in baltimore that's going to allow more car goe to travel through those tunnels. this is the president saying we're on the way towards dealing with the challenge. there's some other administrative steps he's going to take as well. we saw him meeting with some top executives from retailers to encourage them to do everything they can on the private sector level to deal with these challenges as well. and then there's the big challenge senator mccaskill was talking about as well. that's execution. we saw gina raimondo, the president is going to task his cabinet with focusing on the execution challenge. it's one he's going to make sure his team is focused on now as well. >> steve, the one person, the one group who can do something here about inflation, who can impact monetary policy is the fed. what can and should jay powell do? >> you know, i think powell's a little bit late to the game in terms of dialing back some of the stimulus. what happened is the fed was wide open in terms of the pandemic in getting stimulus into the economy. then the fiscal side came through with the biden administration putting trillions out there, the fed didn't change its policy. the fed is being very careful not to reverse policy because it wants to get employment back up. the trouble is the tradeoff we have that we could talk about all day long. everybody's experiencing inflation, and we're trying to get some -- i don't know what number you want to use, 3 to 5 million people back to work. meanwhile, the rest of the employees basically see their wages go down in inflation terms. so it's an interesting social tradeoff right now. what the fed could do is accelerate its removal of stimulus from the economy. >> you know who doesn't care about inflation? mega, mega rich people. people are buying yachts and private planes at a faster pace than we've seen before. yet somehow the house didn't find a way to put a tax on the super wealthy in any of these infrastructure plans. rachel, your group is running an ad that lays out all the ways democrats beat republicans on the economy from growth to jobs to the stock market. i want to share a bit of it. >> it's a triple crown win-win win for the dems. so what do republicans bring? oh, ten out of the last 11 recessions. >> why don't democrats push this message all along? because they're concerned about who's left out, because they're concerned about inflation. you're always going to have some people that are left out, but if democrats lose in 2022 those vulnerable people aren't going to be able to get anything they want because republicans certainly don't want to push the social programs. >> yeah, i got one answer, one word. it's sincerity honestly. as i listen to the conversation on the panel, i mean, what comes to me is exploitability, right? it's a very complex issue. you've got the short-term supply chain mostly pressured inflationary issue, and the minute that economists, smart economists started to use the word inflation a few months ago i immediately realized, oh, the gop's going to love this. they can blame very easy in their system biden directly for inflation. it won't matter, of course, that he's not personally in charge of inflation, they'll jimmy carter him in other words. it is really paramount that context be provided as you pointed out with your conversation with claire. people will never be satisfied with progress if they don't understand where the context of where they're coming from is not kept in frame for then. and at the same time, you know, republicans will not allow these long-term infrastructure changes that are, you know, meant to improve access to the work force, you know, inflation -- the infrastructure is going to actually add more supply chain pressure. they're going to exploit in any way they can politically the politics end and democrats just have to learn. there's good policy. there's substantive sincere politics making work. we don't play the politics end of the game right now, and we really have to. >> claire, i need you to explain politics for us. i want to talk about the infrastructure vote. 13 house republicans voted for it. they now could get punished by leadership in their party. i want to share one of them who voted for it, nicole mall tok kis, this is a hardcore trumper. she voted for it in the state of new york. here's what she said. >> for an aging city like new york city, this bill was incredibly important and the reality is that this is the type of investment that people actually pay taxes for. those basic infrastructure needs that you expect from government but have been neglected for decades. >> so explain what we're seeing here, claire. are we actually seeing republicans who are putting constituents over their party? and how come they're being punished in the house for doing it, but over in the senate, lindsey graham, mitch mcconnell, they voted for the infrastructure bill. nobody's yelling at them. >> yeah, the leadership in the senate, the republican leadership voted for this bill. >> can you explain this? >> we are hanging on by our fingernails in washington to a pretty basic concept. can you vote for something because it's a good idea or do you have to vote against it because the other party's in charge. that's really the reality that's going on here, stephanie. >> but how come that only -- you only get punished if you're in the house but not in the senate? >> because the house is a much more partisan place. there are very few swing districts in the house. you are either supposed to be pure on one side or pure on the other side. the atrophy in the middle is a dangerous thing for this country. these 13 votes, that represents coming to the middle and figuring out there's a good idea. people inside the election, they want people to compromise in the middle. they want that. they want some bipartisanship. so it will be interesting to see how this plays out long-term. if this is the new gop strategy, if it's good and democrats are for it, we're still against it. >> it's not just republicans, same time six democrats in the house voted against it. i'm talking about michigan's rashida tlaib her state is going to get $10 billion so kids in michigan can get clean drinking water. are constituents in all of these states going to say i'm down with that. i'm glad that you voted against it because you want more? >> yeah, we really have two very mathematically distinguishable in this situation. >> you just said a lot of very long s-a-t words and i'm going to need you to break it down. >> these 13 republicans are in swing districts and face a competitive electorate, and the six no votes on the democratic side are all in d plus like 30 districts. so you know, ultimately for them the politics are primary politics, right? and that's who they have to please as a pure democratic electorate. i also think if it had been critical, maybe, you know, they had not voted against it, but i think claire's broader point is the important point, right? that what the house caucus, you know, is throwing down the gauntlet. the way the senate's being run is contingent on mitch mcconnell being the leader of it. once that changes and that could well change if they take control of the senate in 2022, we're seeing this new mow tus op ran dus that said even an infrastructure bill that is supposed to be the thing that the parties universally support, the one thing that no matter what else happens in washington they can't help but agree on, now these people are going to be targeted for supporting infrastructure. right? it's an sos. >> i don't get it. claire mccaskill, great to see you in person. i don't get to see people up close and personal. rachel, michael, steve, han, thank you all so much. coming up, trump has been trying to block documents from the january 6th committee. guess what happened? overnight, a judge said no. so what happens now. plus, aaron rodgers now admits he misled people about his vaccine status. but he doesn't apologize. now he and the packers, they're going to have to pay up big time. packers, they're going to have to pay up big time y 100%. helping to prevent gum disease and bad breath. never settle for 25%. always go for 100. bring out the bold™ (swords clashing) -had enough? -no... arthritis. here. new aspercreme arthritis. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme. voiceover: riders. wanderers on the road of life. the journey is why they ride. when the road is all you need, there is no destination. uh, i-i'm actually just going to get an iced coffee. well, she may have a destination this one time, but usually -- no, i-i usually have a destination. yeah, but most of the time, her destination is freedom. nope, just the coffee shop. announcer: no matter why you ride, progressive has you covered with protection starting at $79 a year. voiceover: 'cause she's a biker... please don't follow me in. to make progress, we must keep taking steps forward. we believe the future of energy is lower carbon. and to get there, the world needs to reduce global emissions. at chevron, we're taking action. tying our executives' pay to lowering the carbon emissions intensity of our operations. it's tempting to see how far we've come. but it's only human... to know how far we have to go. ramifications if they don't go forward and actually cooperate with the committee. it's unclear that that message will percolate into trump world. right now in one capacity or another as they continue to to talk about him potentially running for president again in 2024. that puts them in a much different place especially if they were already unwilling to cooperate. i also think the other piece of this too in talking to the people who are on the committee is they have different varying degrees of cooperation right now, in terms of they want people to come down and physically sit with them and also give them documents. there's also justso conversatio happening right now, and it's really unclear how fruitful those conversations are for the committee getting what they need. >> scott, subpoenas may be piling up for trump confidants, but let's talk about the actual rioters, where do we stand on the number of defendants? >> as of this morning, roughly 650 federal defendants, about a quarter of them have pleaded guilty. there could be hundreds more to come. two things, stephanie, there are 44 of those defendants in the d.c. jail pretrial, and better get used to it. there won't be trials until next year at the soonest. in about 90 minutes, a real big sentencing hearing, and a defendant accused of assaulting who's pleaded guilty to assaulting police, will he get higher or lower than the feds recommend, 3.5 years in prison. >> i read about one that i need to ask you about. a judge is now allowing an alleged capital rioter who is notle allowed to have weapons t go on a family hunting trip. can you explain this to me? >> you're talking about joseph fisher who will bring a bow and a muzzle loader by court order. he's accused of storming into the capitol on january 6th and screaming charge. according to my reporting he's notrd alone. there have been defendants given permissions to go to family o weddings, beach vacations. there was one man from long island. >> this is not a wedding. this is not a funeral. last i checked you need a weapon on a hunting trip. >> and they've limited that to a bow and a muzzle loader. judges are not inclined in the federal system to penalize defendants before they've been convicted or pleaded guilty by further limiting release conditions. like it or loathe it, this is somewhatoa customary in the federal system. >> all right then, scott, i have so many more questions. you better come back tomorrow. coming up, disturbing new video from inside the astroworld festival as we hear from first responders who tried to save those who are caught in the crowd surge. we're going to take you to houston next. we're going to tako houston next and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? 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>> yeah, steph, this was a critical breakdown here in communication. the houston fire chief admitting that at no point during this concert did his team have any communication with the organizers of the festival, and on top of that, we're also hearing from those first responders who fought their way through the crowd to save lives. >> being in this crowd is literally a life threat, that was apparent. >> this morning a frightening new glimpse into the astroworld tragedy. emt remington, richardson detailing how he tried to save an unconscious girl caught in the crowd as a sea of other fans begged for help. >> i did my absolute damnedest to provide the best care i could. >> the music so loud, he says, radio calls for backup went unheard. the chief of the houston fire department also admitting to cnn a glaring lack of communication with concert organizers during the event. >> no, we didn't have on scene, we did not have direct communications with those organizers. >> reporter: concert organizers had two security plans in place, but did not respond to nbc's request for comment. the fire chief also telling savannah rapper travis scott bears some responsibility. >> do you believe the performer, travis scott should have called an end to the concert once he saw what was taking place in front of the stage? >> look, we all have a responsibility. >> reporter: now five days later, some victims still fighting to stay alive, like 9-year-old ezra blunt who fell into the crowd when his dad passed out. he's in a medically induced coma with severe kidney damage fighting for his life. >> darius williams quit before the show began because he said he felt they were under trained. >> i don't feel like safety was took into consideration for the staff nor the attendees of the festivals. >> reporter: at a 2017 concert in new york city, kyle green says he was pushed from a third floor balcony during scott's show leaving him partially paralyzed. green sued alleging scott incited mayhem and chaos through his conduct. scott has denied the allegations. that lawsuit is still ongoing. this morning sources close to travis scott tell nbc news that after performing on stage at astroworld on friday scott went to drake's after party at a dave and buster's and that scott was unaware of the tragedy that happened at the stadium at the time. and right now nbc news is tracking more than 30 lawsuits that have been filed against scott or live nation, the festival organizer, and there is also a growing petition to have scott removed from the popular coachella music festival slated for this upcoming april. morgan chesky, thank you. coming up, the nfl fining a teeny tiny amount of money to aaron rodgers and the green bay packers for not following the league's covid rules. that's next. g the league's covid rules that's next. tremfya® is approved to help reduce joint symptoms in adults with active psoriatic arthritis. some patients even felt less fatigued. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. tremfya®. emerge tremfyant™. janssen can help you explore cost support options. ♪ ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ people with moderate to severe psoriasis, are rethinking the choices they make like the splash they create the entrance they make, the surprises they initiate. otezla. it's a choice you can make. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. ♪ say it's all right ♪ ♪ say it's all right, it's all or planright ♪ be. ♪ have a good time 'cause it's all right ♪ ♪ now listen to the beat ♪ ♪ kinda pat your feet ♪ ♪ it's all right ♪ ♪ have a good time 'cause it's all right ♪ ♪ oh, it's all right ♪ no, he's not in his room. ♪♪ ♪♪ dad, why didn't you answer your phone? ♪♪ your mother loved this park. ♪♪ she did. ♪♪ new this morning, the nfl slapping fining on aaron rodgers and his team, the green bay packers for violating covid rules. at the same time, the mvp quarterback says he takes responsibility for misleading people about his vaccination status, but he isn't giving an apology. stephanie gosk joins us now. tell us about the fines and he's not really apologizing, is he? >> oh, no, no, he does not apologize. he stands by his comments. he does admit he misled people, which is a step away from what happened on friday. all eyes were on this investigation by the nfl. that investigation has concluded. the green bay packers have been fined $300,000. it is a mostly symbolic fine against aaron radiologyers and -- aaron rodgers and one of his teammates. they cite specifically this halloween party. they went on to say there were a number of occasions where they did not enforce covid protocol. >> overnight, the nfl fining the green bay packers and star quarterback aaron rodgers for violating the league's covid rules, hitting the franchise with a $300,000 penalty, and docking rodgers and teammate alan lazard $14,000 each, a discipline stemming from this halloween party that both unvaccinated players attended. the league adding the team failed to enforce protocols in a few incidents, including rodgers not wearing a mask during press conferences. days after a polarizing appearance, rodgers struck a different tone tuesday afternoon, but it wasn't exactly an apologetic one. >> i misled people about my status, which i take full responsibility for those comments, but in the end, i have to stay true to who i am. >> after testing positive for covid, rodgers nfl mandated ten-day quarantine ends on saturday just in time for sunday's game. >> i'm an athlete. i'm not an activist. >> when rodgers was asked about his vaccination status in august, the packers star said he was immunized. >> are you vaccinated and what's your stance on vaccinations? >> yeah, i've been immunized. >> after testing positive and admitting he was unvaccinated, rodgers still defended his answer last friday. >> it wasn't some sort of ruse or lie, it was the truth. >> without any specifics, the nfl mvp maintained he followed an immunization plan that did not include vaccinations. but health experts and the cdc are emphatic. there is no proven immunization process against covid-19 other than surviving the virus itself or getting one of the approved vaccines. wisconsin based health care company prevea announced it was ending its sponsorship with the green bay packers star. while state farm insurance said it would be sticking by him, writing in part we don't support some of the statements that he has made but we respect his right to have his own personal point of view. rodgers laughed off the suggestion his nfl legacy has been tarnished. >> you're probably going to never win an mvp again, that's probably never going to happen right? >> i think that's a legitimate statement. >> okay. steph, state farm, whose slogan is like a good neighbor state farm is there, they don't drop him, and yes, the nfl is fining him but $14,000. can you put into perspective what 14,000 bucks is to a guy who makes aaron rodgers' type of dough? he's making $134 million with this contract. it is a symbolic penalty. the nfl went back and said as well if you do this again, we can penalize you further. that could mean more suspensions potentially for aaron rodgers, and as we saw with this team, they lose when he is not there, and that's potentially a big deal. but no, this is not hurting his pocketbook. >> 14 grand. that is like nbc fining me $5 if i don't wear my mask when i head to the bathroom. just to put that in perspective. stephanie gosk, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. next, a principal ousted from a texas school over false claims that he promoted critical race theory. we have the facts, he didn't do it, yet he was fire department. -- he was fired. kyle rittenhouse could take the witness stand as early as today. we're going to take you to kenosha. y. we're going to take you to kenosha. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ at t-mobile for business, unconventional thinking means we see things differently, so you can focus on what matters most. whether it's ensuring food arrives as fresh as when it departs... being first on the scene when every second counts... or teaching biology without a lab. we are the leader in 5g and a partner who delivers exceptional customer support and 5g included in every plan. so, you get it all, without trade-offs. unconventional thinking, it's better for business. there's a different way to treat hiv. it's once-monthly injectable cabenuva. cabenuva is the only once-a-month, complete hiv treatment for adults who are undetectable. cabenuva helps keep me undetectable. it's two injections, given by a healthcare provider once a month. hiv pills aren't on my mind. i love being able to pick up and go. don't receive cabenuva if you're allergic to its ingredients or taking certain medicines, which may interact with cabenuva. serious side effects include allergic reactions post-injection reactions, liver problems,...and depression. if you have a rash and other allergic reaction symptoms, stop cabenuva and get medical help right away. tell your doctor if you have liver problems or mental health concerns, and if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, or considering pregnancy. some of the most common side effects include injection site reactions, fever, and tiredness. if you switch to cabenuva, attend all treatment appointments. with once-a-month cabenuva, i'm good to go. ask your doctor about once-monthly cabenuva. with clean, fresh ingredients, with once-a-month cabenuva, i'm good to go. panera's new chicken sausage and pepperoni flatbread is a mouthwatering explosion of yes. craft? 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just ask your asthma specialist about dupixent. now to north texas where the furious debate over critical race theory has cost a high school principal his job even though there is no evidence he ever promoted it or taught it to any students. nbc's antonia hilton has been following this story from texas, she's also the co-host of the south lake podcast. i don't understand this. if there is no evidence against him, how did he get fired? my executive producer, she would have fired me a year ago if it was just based on not liking me. >> well, steph, what happened in dr. whitfield's case is according to the school district and the school board that voted ultimately to move forward with separating from him monday night is that they say that he has other deficiencies in his performance as principal, that he has been a poor communicator at times. that he is part responsible for some of the division that has come around this debate over critical race theory, and then they've also said that he's been insubordinate, and when you talk to dr. whitfield, he tells you that these claims do not make sense because he was promoted twice in three years and then put on leave in late august before this school year really got started in earnest and much interaction with students had happened. to give viewers some context here, these allegations began when some residents in the community came forward and accused him of promoting critical race theory because of, for example, a panel about diverse differences it he took part in that was a district approved panel and also an email sort of infamous email that he sent out after george floyd's murder, in which he stated that systemic racism is alive and well. the school district agrees he did not promote critical race theory, that there's no evidence anyone in the school district did. but part of this move has to do with some of the controversy that came after those allegations, which is part of what makes this confusing for people who follow this case like i have over the last several months. take a listen to my conversation with him in just the hours and minutes after this decision came out. >> i'm hopeful that we can use this to move forward and to progress, right? and get some true meaningful change. people to be okay with teaching truth, people to be okay with embracing inclusivity and diversity, celebrating every student that walks through the doors. >> dr. whitfield does not yet know where he's going to work next, but he hopes to stay. his focus is on other educators in texas and elsewhere that he worries will feel -- see the message out of this forced resignation and perhaps no longer want to work in the field or be fearful about speaking up about diversity and race in schools, steph. >> all right, antonia hilton, thank you so much. developing now in wisconsin, we could be just a few hours away from kyle rittenhouse taking the stand about fatally shooting two people and injuring a third. ird. gabe gutierrez is live at the courthouse and david henderson joins us, he's a civil rights attorney and former prosecutor. gabe, what's going to happen today? >> hey, there, stephanie. good morning. yes, as you mentioned, it's a possibility kyle rittenhouse could testify at any time. we did hear during opening statements that the defense indicated that the jury would hear testimony fromca rittenhou, but we don't know the exact timetable for that. could be today,ti could be tomorrow. we're just not exactly sure. now, what we do expect to hear today, this was indicated yesterday, awaywa from the jury that an ex-police officer would testify as part of the defense's case, and she was there that night, would presumably testify to the chaotic situation there. but we expect her to testify virtually, because she apparently b has covid, at leas that's according to the defense, that they told the judgeid yesterday. so several things, stephanie. youhi mentioned that new drone video that wasd presented by t prosecution right before it rested yesterday. that is high resolution drone video, actually. investigators had gotteno, that low-resolution version of the drone video earlier in the investigation, but they didn't get ast high-resolution copy, stephanie, into several days into the stcopy. a trial imagining specialist zoomed in and kind of analyzed exactly what happened there. the prosecution saying that, you know, josephyi rosenbaum was falling and not a threat to kyle rittenhouse. the defense, though,le saying tt he apparently was lunging at rittenhouse as he tried to attack him. we also heard some testimony from a forensic pathologist with the medical examiner's office. take a listen to that. >> and were you able to determine the cause of death to mr. huber? >> yes. >> and what was thathu cause of death? >> mr. huber died from a gunshot wound to the chest. >> and is that an opinion given within a reasonable degree of medical certainly? >> it y?is. >> reporter: so basically, stephanie, he was referring to anthony huber. he is the second person that rittenhouse shot and killed, the first one being joseph rosenbaum. but basically, stephanie, kyle rittenhouse was grimacing during some of the graphic testimony, theth photos that were presente to the jury and right now, the defense is about to resume, trying to paint the picture that rittenhouse acted in self-defense, while the prosecution meanwhile is trying to paint him as an aggressor who was out looking for trouble. again, we don't know exactly when rittenhouse will testify, but it could come today, tomorrow, at some point this week. stephanie? >> david, what are the potential risks andat advantages of rittenhouse taking the stand? >> well, steph, the potential advantage of him taking the stand is,po he comes across as looking as childlike as he does sitting there in the courtroom and the jury just thinks, already, he was in a bad situation and he never meant for this to happen. that's not strictly a legal argument, but courtroom is theater work moret so than leg work. the risk is that whenle the prosecution gets to cross-examine prhim, they hit h with a bunch of facts that show just how lethal his intent was and that reverse the course of the momentum that is currentlys in his favor. at the beginning of this trial, i would have told you i expect him to testify as his defense lawyers have promised, but the way this has mideveloped, he no longer needs to. >> we'll be taking that testimony live as soon as it happens, so stay close. we'll have that here later on msnbc later today. when we come back, we all remember or maybe we need to remind you of those empty shelves at the beginning of the pandemic when it was donald trump in the white house. but some have forgotten about those days. so we're going to set the facts straight! and amid these massive shortages and rising prices, today i'll be breaking down what you need to know to shop smart this holiday season. you can catch that on today.com/allday. n today.com/allday ♪ and my clothes smell so much fresher than before ♪ ♪ yeah, yeah ♪ ♪ i'm a ganiac, ganiac, check my drawers ♪ ♪ it's a freshness like i've never smelled before ♪ one sniff of gain flings and you'll be a gainiac too! the only detergent with oxiboost and febreze. 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price you pay as president biden heads to baltimore maryland to sell the bipartisan infrastructure deal. and overnight, a major setback for former president donald trump as he tries to shield documents from the january 6th investigation. as the committee issues ten more subpoenas. will they be responded to? also this morning, shocking new video from inside that astroworld festival as we learn details about what was being said or not said between first responders and festival organizers when the chaos erupted. we'll take you live to houston, but we have got to start this morning with the brand new numbers on inflation. big numbers much higher than expected. the consumer price index. this covers everything from food to gas to energy. it jumped 6.2% compared to this time last year. that is the biggest jump we have seen in three decades. yes, this time last year thungs things were shut down. it was up 0.9% in october. it is a big deal because higher prices and supply chain issues are two of the biggest drags on how people perceive the economy. president biden will use his trip to baltimore later today to explain how the new bipartisan hard infrastructure bill can help ease some of those concerns, and you're in luck because i've got the perfect group here to help me dig deeper. michael memoli at the white house, "axios" political reporter, hans nichols, cnbc economic reporter, steve liesman, rachel bitecofer and former missouri senator, msnbc contributor, claire mccaskill. steve, what do these numbers tell us about the economic situation for the average american? because despite lots of great, strong things about our economy, it really feels like inflation is overshadowing everything else. >> i think that's right, stephanie, and i think what we learned today is two things. one is that prices are higher and price rises are wider, and what that means is more sectors of the economy are being affected by this. what this says is that a couple of things, first that the outlook is a little more bleak than we thought in the sense that by now there was a sense that maybe prices would be coming down or at least stabilizing from here. we blew through the five handle on the year-over-year inflation. that's what i was seeing from forecasters. they were expecting perhaps for november. so what we see is we see prices for food and home, all of that is up. used car prices had eased off last month. now they're back again rising at a good clip. housing costs are up. all of that is happening right now, and what that means is that a lot of people are feeling pain because we know that their earnings are not -- the increase in the earnings is not keeping pace with the increase in prices overall. >> but steve, are we leaving one thing out? one of the reasons prices of homes are so much higher, one of the reasons you can't get a dishwasher is because you've got a record number of people renovating their kitchen. this country is awash with cash. household savings are up huge. even though prices are up, people are lining up to pay them. >> that's absolutely true, and the question is how much longer this can continue. and you know, we shouldn't lose the entire thread. i think that's what your question implies. we do have good growth. we seem to have buoyant stock prices as well. we also seem to have good economic gdp growth. all of that is happening. on the other hand, you have these two factors that are out there. the one looks to be transitory. the ship's backed up at the ports. trouble getting goods across. the labor crunch, those can work themselves out. does this continue? does an inflationary mind-set set in such that we have these rising prices over a period of time that's apart from the temporary factors related to the reopening? >> claire, higher prices and shortages. this is 100% tied to covid, right? all of this is because of covid. are we forgetting that six months ago, a year ago we were in a much worse position. should democrats be reminding voters that's why the government provided three stimulus checks, expanded unemployment, expanded the child tax credit. they're going to give you more money so you have a financial cushion. economic recovery is going to be rocky. >> listen, we had a once in multigenerational pandemic. do we expect there not to be some hangover? of course there's going to be a hangover. but if the democrats would focus on all the good news out there, record job growth, record savings. we've got -- frankly, we've got a lot of people that still need to reenter the job market, but that's going to happen. we have some supply chain hiccups. now what the democrats need to do is focus on a couple of things. one is they've got to make sure they execute on this infrastructure bill. there's an opportunity here for major boon to the economy with the help of the fed on inflation if, in fact, they could execute this almost trillion dollars worth of spending that is going to get out into the bloodstream of the economy, and if they do that quickly and efficiently and start building those roads and bridges and start doing work on that electrical grid, all of that will filter down, which will ease some of the headaches that people are feeling right now about the stuff they want to buy costing a little bit more. >> hans, let's stay on that, though. facts aside, people vote based on how they feel. claire nailed it. the dow is up 5,000. you look at polling and two-thirds of americans think the economy is poor and they're only going to think it's worse when they look at these inflation numbers. how does white house manage this? >> well, what the white house is doing is talking about their two bills, the infrastructure bill and the build back better bill, which they insist will actually in the long-term bring down inflation. smarter economists and actually any sort of economist -- because i'm not one -- can make that argument. here's the problem with that argument. all the supply side aspects they're focusing on are great arguments for 2023, 2024. if you think the problem with the economy right now is that women can't get into the work force, do you really think that having universal pre-k is going to be here in january of 2022, even september of 2022, september of 2023. these are long-term changing that the white house is making, and they're trying to use it to address a short-term problem, which as claire and steve are pointing out seems to be growing on a monthly basis and the big warning sign, despite all the positive economic news, the big warning sign, every day americans drive past their gas station and they see one thing that's very tangible to them is going up, and that's fuel prices. when you filter that through the economy, does it really have an effect? maybe not. psychologically you cannot underestimate the impact of higher fuel prices. that's why i suspect we see the white house move the most immediately and tangibly. we could have a discussion about the fed. i don't want to have liesman and i talk about that. >> i could talk about the fed all day tomorrow and yesterday. i do want to move on. michael, to what hans just said, what could the president tell americans right now that's going to make them feel like things are improving? all these plans, we're not going to see them for months if not years. >> that's right, steph. that's why i think it's so significant that the very first stop the president is making on sort of what's going to be an extended sales pitch on a big legislative win that the white house wants to tout, it's not about roads, amtrak, it's not about broadband. it's about ports. it's about the supply chain issue, which really wasn't high on the radar when the president was laying out his infrastructure plan during the campaign last year and why he's going to the port of baltimore is actually to highlight a success story and the president saying to the american people this is a sign of more to come. when we've been talking about the supply chain issue, we've been talking about the west coast, the port of los angeles, the port of long beach, which deal with 40% of the nation's traffic. the port of baltimore has seen an increase in traffic through its port because they've been unable to get cargo unloaded elsewhere because of some public and private partnerships that have allowed the port of baltimore to expand their capacity. there's $17 billion in the infrastructure bill for ports. the president's going to be talking about how some of these other projects including rail is relative toy supply chain challenge as well. there's going to be an expansion project of a tunnel in baltimore that's going to allow more car goe to travel through those tunnels. this is the president saying we're on the way towards dealing with the challenge. there's some other administrative steps he's going to take as well. we saw him meeting with some top executives from retailers to encourage them to do everything they can on the private sector level to deal with these challenges as well. and then there's the big challenge senator mccaskill was talking about as well. that's execution. we saw gina raimondo, the president is going to task his cabinet with focusing on the execution challenge. it's one he's going to make sure his team is focused on now as well. >> steve, the one person, the one group who can do something here about inflation, who can impact monetary policy is the fed. what can and should jay powell do? >> you know, i think powell's a little bit late to the game in terms of dialing back some of the stimulus. what happened is the fed was wide open in terms of the pandemic in getting stimulus into the economy. then the fiscal side came through with the biden administration putting trillions out there, the fed didn't change its policy. the fed is being very careful not to reverse policy because it wants to get employment back up. the trouble is the tradeoff we have that we could talk about all day long. everybody's experiencing inflation, and we're trying to get some -- i don't know what number you want to use, 3 to 5 million people back to work. meanwhile, the rest of the employees basically see their wages go down in inflation terms. so it's an interesting social tradeoff right now. what the fed could do is accelerate its removal of stimulus from the economy. >> you know who doesn't care about inflation? mega, mega rich people. people are buying yachts and private planes at a faster pace than we've seen before. yet somehow the house didn't find a way to put a tax on the super wealthy in any of these infrastructure plans. rachel, your group is running an ad that lays out all the ways democrats beat republicans on the economy from growth to jobs to the stock market. i want to share a bit of it. >> it's a triple crown win-win win for the dems. so what do republicans bring? oh, ten out of the last 11 recessions. >> why don't democrats push this message all along? because they're concerned about who's left out, because they're concerned about inflation. you're always going to have some people that are left out, but if democrats lose in 2022 those vulnerable people aren't going to be able to get anything they want because republicans certainly don't want to push the social programs. >> yeah, i got one answer, one word. it's sincerity honestly. as i listen to the conversation on the panel, i mean, what comes to me is exploitability, right? it's a very complex issue. you've got the short-term supply chain mostly pressured inflationary issue, and the minute that economists, smart economists started to use the word inflation a few months ago i immediately realized, oh, the gop's going to love this. they can blame very easy in their system biden directly for inflation. it won't matter, of course, that he's not personally in charge of inflation, they'll jimmy carter him in other words. it is really paramount that context be provided as you pointed out with your conversation with claire. people will never be satisfied with progress if they don't understand where the context of where they're coming from is not kept in frame for then. and at the same time, you know, republicans will not allow these long-term infrastructure changes that are, you know, meant to improve access to the work force, you know, inflation -- the infrastructure is going to actually add more supply chain pressure. they're going to exploit in any way they can politically the politics end and democrats just have to learn. there's good policy. there's substantive sincere politics making work. we don't play the politics end of the game right now, and we really have to. >> claire, i need you to explain politics for us. i want to talk about the infrastructure vote. 13 house republicans voted for it. they now could get punished by leadership in their party. i want to share one of them who voted for it, nicole mall tok kis, this is a hardcore trumper. she voted for it in the state of new york. here's what she said. >> for an aging city like new york city, this bill was incredibly important and the reality is that this is the type of investment that people actually pay taxes for. those basic infrastructure needs that you expect from government but have been neglected for decades. >> so explain what we're seeing here, claire. are we actually seeing republicans who are putting constituents over their party? and how come they're being punished in the house for doing it, but over in the senate, lindsey graham, mitch mcconnell, they voted for the infrastructure bill. nobody's yelling at them. >> yeah, the leadership in the senate, the republican leadership voted for this bill. >> can you explain this? >> we are hanging on by our fingernails in washington to a pretty basic concept. can you vote for something because it's a good idea or do you have to vote against it because the other party's in charge. that's really the reality that's going on here, stephanie. >> but how come that only -- you only get punished if you're in the house but not in the senate? >> because the house is a much more partisan place. there are very few swing districts in the house. you are either supposed to be pure on one side or pure on the other side. the atrophy in the middle is a dangerous thing for this country. these 13 votes, that represents coming to the middle and figuring out there's a good idea. people inside the election, they want people to compromise in the middle. they want that. they want some bipartisanship. so it will be interesting to see how this plays out long-term. if this is the new gop strategy, if it's good and democrats are for it, we're still against it. >> it's not just republicans, same time six democrats in the house voted against it. i'm talking about michigan's rashida tlaib her state is going to get $10 billion so kids in michigan can get clean drinking water. are constituents in all of these states going to say i'm down with that. i'm glad that you voted against it because you want more? >> yeah, we really have two very mathematically distinguishable in this situation. >> you just said a lot of very long s-a-t words and i'm going to need you to break it down. >> these 13 republicans are in swing districts and face a competitive electorate, and the six no votes on the democratic side are all in d plus like 30 districts. so you know, ultimately for them the politics are primary politics, right? and that's who they have to please as a pure democratic electorate. i also think if it had been critical, maybe, you know, they had not voted against it, but i think claire's broader point is the important point, right? that what the house caucus, you know, is throwing down the gauntlet. the way the senate's being run is contingent on mitch mcconnell being the leader of it. once that changes and that could well change if they take control of the senate in 2022, we're seeing this new mow tus op ran dus that said even an infrastructure bill that is supposed to be the thing that the parties universally support, the one thing that no matter what else happens in washington they can't help but agree on, now these people are going to be targeted for supporting infrastructure. right? it's an sos. >> i don't get it. claire mccaskill, great to see you in person. i don't get to see people up close and personal. rachel, michael, steve, han, thank you all so much. coming up, trump has been trying to block documents from the january 6th committee. guess what happened? overnight, a judge said no. so what happens now. plus, aaron rodgers now admits he misled people about his vaccine status. but he doesn't apologize. now he and the packers, they're going to have to pay up big time. packers, they're going to have to pay up big time y 100%. helping to prevent gum disease and bad breath. never settle for 25%. always go for 100. bring out the bold™ (swords clashing) -had enough? -no... arthritis. here. new aspercreme arthritis. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme. voiceover: riders. wanderers on the road of life. the journey is why they ride. when the road is all you need, there is no destination. uh, i-i'm actually just going to get an iced coffee. well, she may have a destination this one time, but usually -- no, i-i usually have a destination. yeah, but most of the time, her destination is freedom. nope, just the coffee shop. announcer: no matter why you ride, progressive has you covered with protection starting at $79 a year. voiceover: 'cause she's a biker... please don't follow me in. to make progress, we must keep taking steps forward. we believe the future of energy is lower carbon. and to get there, the world needs to reduce global emissions. at chevron, we're taking action. tying our executives' pay to lowering the carbon emissions intensity of our operations. it's tempting to see how far we've come. but it's only human... to know how far we have to go. ramifications if they don't go forward and actually cooperate with the committee. it's unclear that that message will percolate into trump world. right now in one capacity or another as they continue to to talk about him potentially running for president again in 2024. that puts them in a much different place especially if they were already unwilling to cooperate. i also think the other piece of this too in talking to the people who are on the committee is they have different varying degrees of cooperation right now, in terms of they want people to come down and physically sit with them and also give them documents. there's also justso conversatio happening right now, and it's really unclear how fruitful those conversations are for the committee getting what they need. >> scott, subpoenas may be piling up for trump confidants, but let's talk about the actual rioters, where do we stand on the number of defendants? >> as of this morning, roughly 650 federal defendants, about a quarter of them have pleaded guilty. there could be hundreds more to come. two things, stephanie, there are 44 of those defendants in the d.c. jail pretrial, and better get used to it. there won't be trials until next year at the soonest. in about 90 minutes, a real big sentencing hearing, and a defendant accused of assaulting who's pleaded guilty to assaulting police, will he get higher or lower than the feds recommend, 3.5 years in prison. >> i read about one that i need to ask you about. a judge is now allowing an alleged capital rioter who is notle allowed to have weapons t go on a family hunting trip. can you explain this to me? >> you're talking about joseph fisher who will bring a bow and a muzzle loader by court order. he's accused of storming into the capitol on january 6th and screaming charge. according to my reporting he's notrd alone. there have been defendants given permissions to go to family o weddings, beach vacations. there was one man from long island. >> this is not a wedding. this is not a funeral. last i checked you need a weapon on a hunting trip. >> and they've limited that to a bow and a muzzle loader. judges are not inclined in the federal system to penalize defendants before they've been convicted or pleaded guilty by further limiting release conditions. like it or loathe it, this is somewhatoa customary in the federal system. >> all right then, scott, i have so many more questions. you better come back tomorrow. coming up, disturbing new video from inside the astroworld festival as we hear from first responders who tried to save those who are caught in the crowd surge. we're going to take you to houston next. we're going to tako houston next and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? 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>> yeah, steph, this was a critical breakdown here in communication. the houston fire chief admitting that at no point during this concert did his team have any communication with the organizers of the festival, and on top of that, we're also hearing from those first responders who fought their way through the crowd to save lives. >> being in this crowd is literally a life threat, that was apparent. >> this morning a frightening new glimpse into the astroworld tragedy. emt remington, richardson detailing how he tried to save an unconscious girl caught in the crowd as a sea of other fans begged for help. >> i did my absolute damnedest to provide the best care i could. >> the music so loud, he says, radio calls for backup went unheard. the chief of the houston fire department also admitting to cnn a glaring lack of communication with concert organizers during the event. >> no, we didn't have on scene, we did not have direct communications with those organizers. >> reporter: concert organizers had two security plans in place, but did not respond to nbc's request for comment. the fire chief also telling savannah rapper travis scott bears some responsibility. >> do you believe the performer, travis scott should have called an end to the concert once he saw what was taking place in front of the stage? >> look, we all have a responsibility. >> reporter: now five days later, some victims still fighting to stay alive, like 9-year-old ezra blunt who fell into the crowd when his dad passed out. he's in a medically induced coma with severe kidney damage fighting for his life. >> darius williams quit before the show began because he said he felt they were under trained. >> i don't feel like safety was took into consideration for the staff nor the attendees of the festivals. >> reporter: at a 2017 concert in new york city, kyle green says he was pushed from a third floor balcony during scott's show leaving him partially paralyzed. green sued alleging scott incited mayhem and chaos through his conduct. scott has denied the allegations. that lawsuit is still ongoing. this morning sources close to travis scott tell nbc news that after performing on stage at astroworld on friday scott went to drake's after party at a dave and buster's and that scott was unaware of the tragedy that happened at the stadium at the time. and right now nbc news is tracking more than 30 lawsuits that have been filed against scott or live nation, the festival organizer, and there is also a growing petition to have scott removed from the popular coachella music festival slated for this upcoming april. morgan chesky, thank you. coming up, the nfl fining a teeny tiny amount of money to aaron rodgers and the green bay packers for not following the league's covid rules. that's next. g the league's covid rules that's next. tremfya® is approved to help reduce joint symptoms in adults with active psoriatic arthritis. some patients even felt less fatigued. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. tremfya®. emerge tremfyant™. janssen can help you explore cost support options. ♪ ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ people with moderate to severe psoriasis, are rethinking the choices they make like the splash they create the entrance they make, the surprises they initiate. otezla. it's a choice you can make. otezla is not a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. ♪ say it's all right ♪ ♪ say it's all right, it's all or planright ♪ be. ♪ have a good time 'cause it's all right ♪ ♪ now listen to the beat ♪ ♪ kinda pat your feet ♪ ♪ it's all right ♪ ♪ have a good time 'cause it's all right ♪ ♪ oh, it's all right ♪ no, he's not in his room. ♪♪ ♪♪ dad, why didn't you answer your phone? 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he's making $134 million with this contract. it is a symbolic penalty. the nfl went back and said as well if you do this again, we can penalize you further. that could mean more suspensions potentially for aaron rodgers, and as we saw with this team, they lose when he is not there, and that's potentially a big deal. but no, this is not hurting his pocketbook. >> 14 grand. that is like nbc fining me $5 if i don't wear my mask when i head to the bathroom. just to put that in perspective. stephanie gosk, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. next, a principal ousted from a texas school over false claims that he promoted critical race theory. we have the facts, he didn't do it, yet he was fire department. -- he was fired. kyle rittenhouse could take the witness stand as early as today. we're going to take you to kenosha. y. we're going to take you to kenosha. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ at t-mobile for business, unconventional thinking means we see things differently, so you can focus on what matters most. whether it's ensuring food arrives as fresh as when it departs... being first on the scene when every second counts... or teaching biology without a lab. we are the leader in 5g and a partner who delivers exceptional customer support and 5g included in every plan. so, you get it all, without trade-offs. unconventional thinking, it's better for business. there's a different way to treat hiv. it's once-monthly injectable cabenuva. cabenuva is the only once-a-month, complete hiv treatment for adults who are undetectable. cabenuva helps keep me undetectable. it's two injections, given by a healthcare provider once a month. hiv pills aren't on my mind. i love being able to pick up and go. don't receive cabenuva if you're allergic to its ingredients or taking certain medicines, which may interact with cabenuva. serious side effects include allergic reactions post-injection reactions, liver problems,...and depression. if you have a rash and other allergic reaction symptoms, stop cabenuva and get medical help right away. tell your doctor if you have liver problems or mental health concerns, and if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, or considering pregnancy. some of the most common side effects include injection site reactions, fever, and tiredness. if you switch to cabenuva, attend all treatment appointments. with once-a-month cabenuva, i'm good to go. ask your doctor about once-monthly cabenuva. with clean, fresh ingredients, with once-a-month cabenuva, i'm good to go. panera's new chicken sausage and pepperoni flatbread is a mouthwatering explosion of yes. craft? 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just ask your asthma specialist about dupixent. now to north texas where the furious debate over critical race theory has cost a high school principal his job even though there is no evidence he ever promoted it or taught it to any students. nbc's antonia hilton has been following this story from texas, she's also the co-host of the south lake podcast. i don't understand this. if there is no evidence against him, how did he get fired? my executive producer, she would have fired me a year ago if it was just based on not liking me. >> well, steph, what happened in dr. whitfield's case is according to the school district and the school board that voted ultimately to move forward with separating from him monday night is that they say that he has other deficiencies in his performance as principal, that he has been a poor communicator at times. that he is part responsible for some of the division that has come around this debate over critical race theory, and then they've also said that he's been insubordinate, and when you talk to dr. whitfield, he tells you that these claims do not make sense because he was promoted twice in three years and then put on leave in late august before this school year really got started in earnest and much interaction with students had happened. to give viewers some context here, these allegations began when some residents in the community came forward and accused him of promoting critical race theory because of, for example, a panel about diverse differences it he took part in that was a district approved panel and also an email sort of infamous email that he sent out after george floyd's murder, in which he stated that systemic racism is alive and well. the school district agrees he did not promote critical race theory, that there's no evidence anyone in the school district did. but part of this move has to do with some of the controversy that came after those allegations, which is part of what makes this confusing for people who follow this case like i have over the last several months. take a listen to my conversation with him in just the hours and minutes after this decision came out. >> i'm hopeful that we can use this to move forward and to progress, right? and get some true meaningful change. people to be okay with teaching truth, people to be okay with embracing inclusivity and diversity, celebrating every student that walks through the doors. >> dr. whitfield does not yet know where he's going to work next, but he hopes to stay. his focus is on other educators in texas and elsewhere that he worries will feel -- see the message out of this forced resignation and perhaps no longer want to work in the field or be fearful about speaking up about diversity and race in schools, steph. >> all right, antonia hilton, thank you so much. developing now in wisconsin, we could be just a few hours away from kyle rittenhouse taking the stand about fatally shooting two people and injuring a third. ird. gabe gutierrez is live at the courthouse and david henderson joins us, he's a civil rights attorney and former prosecutor. gabe, what's going to happen today? >> hey, there, stephanie. good morning. yes, as you mentioned, it's a possibility kyle rittenhouse could testify at any time. we did hear during opening statements that the defense indicated that the jury would hear testimony fromca rittenhou, but we don't know the exact timetable for that. could be today,ti could be tomorrow. we're just not exactly sure. now, what we do expect to hear today, this was indicated yesterday, awaywa from the jury that an ex-police officer would testify as part of the defense's case, and she was there that night, would presumably testify to the chaotic situation there. but we expect her to testify virtually, because she apparently b has covid, at leas that's according to the defense, that they told the judgeid yesterday. so several things, stephanie. youhi mentioned that new drone video that wasd presented by t prosecution right before it rested yesterday. that is high resolution drone video, actually. investigators had gotteno, that low-resolution version of the drone video earlier in the investigation, but they didn't get ast high-resolution copy, stephanie, into several days into the stcopy. a trial imagining specialist zoomed in and kind of analyzed exactly what happened there. the prosecution saying that, you know, josephyi rosenbaum was falling and not a threat to kyle rittenhouse. the defense, though,le saying tt he apparently was lunging at rittenhouse as he tried to attack him. we also heard some testimony from a forensic pathologist with the medical examiner's office. take a listen to that. >> and were you able to determine the cause of death to mr. huber? >> yes. >> and what was thathu cause of death? >> mr. huber died from a gunshot wound to the chest. >> and is that an opinion given within a reasonable degree of medical certainly? >> it y?is. >> reporter: so basically, stephanie, he was referring to anthony huber. he is the second person that rittenhouse shot and killed, the first one being joseph rosenbaum. but basically, stephanie, kyle rittenhouse was grimacing during some of the graphic testimony, theth photos that were presente to the jury and right now, the defense is about to resume, trying to paint the picture that rittenhouse acted in self-defense, while the prosecution meanwhile is trying to paint him as an aggressor who was out looking for trouble. again, we don't know exactly when rittenhouse will testify, but it could come today, tomorrow, at some point this week. stephanie? >> david, what are the potential risks andat advantages of rittenhouse taking the stand? >> well, steph, the potential advantage of him taking the stand is,po he comes across as looking as childlike as he does sitting there in the courtroom and the jury just thinks, already, he was in a bad situation and he never meant for this to happen. that's not strictly a legal argument, but courtroom is theater work moret so than leg work. the risk is that whenle the prosecution gets to cross-examine prhim, they hit h with a bunch of facts that show just how lethal his intent was and that reverse the course of the momentum that is currentlys in his favor. at the beginning of this trial, i would have told you i expect him to testify as his defense lawyers have promised, but the way this has mideveloped, he no longer needs to. >> we'll be taking that testimony live as soon as it happens, so stay close. we'll have that here later on msnbc later today. when we come back, we all remember or maybe we need to remind you of those empty shelves at the beginning of the pandemic when it was donald trump in the white house. but some have forgotten about those days. so we're going to set the facts straight! and amid these massive shortages and rising prices, today i'll be breaking down what you need to know to shop smart this holiday season. you can catch that on today.com/allday. n today.com/allday ♪ and my clothes smell so much fresher than before ♪ ♪ yeah, yeah ♪ ♪ i'm a ganiac, ganiac, check my drawers ♪ ♪ it's a freshness like i've never smelled before ♪ one sniff of gain flings and you'll be a gainiac too! the only detergent with oxiboost and febreze. 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