federal court putting those plans on hold. in this hour, on the record with huma abedin, hillary clinton's long-time adviser thrown into the spotlight. we'll dig into all of it live in studio. let's begin with the major win for the president and his party. overnight the u.s. house passed a historic infrastructure bill. it eliminates led pipes and creates union jobs as president biden worked to rebuild an economy hit hard by the pandemic. and we're seeing signs of improvement. just this week a major rebound adding more than half a million jobs in october. there is more to come as democrats work to finalize part two of the president's build back better again ta. the sprawling social safety bill will expand the tax credit, universal pre-k and more. an investigation to fight climate change among other life changing policies. democrats hope to pass this legislation by thanksgiving. it comes days after republicans won statewide races in virginia and showed gains in other elections. but president biden not interested in playing political pundit who is focussed on getting things done. >> the american people have made clear one overwhelming thing, i think. i really mean it. all the talk about the elections and what do they mean. they want us to deliver. they want us to deliver. democrats, they want us to deliver. last night we proved we can on one big item. we delivered. >> well, democrats prove they can deliver to the american people. they must also push back against misguided republican outrage over everything from how race is supposedly taught in school to the lies about the 2020 election. republicans fuelling anger into votes. argues democrats need to fight fire with fire. writing a lesson for democrats has to be that what policy is important, so is angry. democrats should be serving up read meat to their base and not critical race theory, but angry based on the actual policies republicans are enacting, from their efforts to suppress the vote to their commitment to oppressing women with their extreme abortion ban. so how do democrats effectively show voters they can deliver while pushing back against the dangerous draft towards the right? "new york times" columnist and msnbc political analyst michelle goldberg, hayes brown, and sife fat, the chief executive officer at the new georgia project. it's great to see you all. hayes, finally infrastructure week, like, for real. democrats, though, you know only halfway done with their build back better agenda. how do they use this legislative victory and their momentum to pass the social spending aspect of biden's agenda? >> like the president said, this is one big item. the problem they have been facing in congress has been how to get all the rest of the many other big items that they want in this one package. we've seen over the last few months the total pact's been sliced and diced and shrunk until it's at its current $1.75 trillion of spending. this infrastructure bill, this part finally passing, it does two things. one, it gives them a win that they absolutely needed and shows that yes, we can pass bills in this congress, ins all going to this congress, ins all going to be infighting, which was a major hang-up, especially for those in the beltway. the other thing it does is it tones down the rhetoric inside the party in terms of -- there was the progressives and moderates fight where neither side wanted to put down their weapon or let this bipartisan infrastructure bill get out of the house without the rest of the social spending. now they've taken a leap of faith. they're saying, okay, so we can get this done, we're going to get this other half over the line, we're going to trust that this gets done in the senate. now, that's going to be shaky trying to make sure senators manchin and sinema get on board with whatever the house passes, getting through the birdbath to make sure the provisions fit within the reconciliation process. so we're not done yet. there's a lot of policy and politics to be worked out still. hopefully they get it over the line two weeks from now, fingers crossed. >> he just nearly killed me with his eye roll over the birdbath. i want your sense, though, of moving into this next round of negotiations on who has the leverage in that next fight. >> well, look, i think that progressives obviously gave up some leverage, even though they absolutely did the right thing in finally letting this infrastructure bill go forward. you know, one of the problems is that the real -- the sort of meat of these two pieces of legislation, the things that if you poll americans, poll overwhelmingly well. americans want this new investment in roads and bridges and trains. they want -- they want broadband. they want the things in the social spending by. they want paid family leave. they want -- at this point we don't know what's going to be in it, but they want the proposals for, you know, dental and vision and hearing benefits and medicare. the problem is that because the story has been all about democratic dysfunction, it's been a process story about how washington can't get anything done and people overwhelmingly don't know what's in this legislation. by breaking this first log jam there's a possibility to talk about what these do. >> it is both about the actual benefits they will receive in the way that will change their life, and the subtextual message that washington and specifically democrats can get things done, which i would argue is the best and strongest antidote to some of the faux populism we've seen out there that rile people up where it doesn't work no matter who's there, so you might as well choose know move this forward. i want to talk to you about tuesday's election, specifically in virginia because there were so many story lines. one that went missing is the fact that virginia has some of the most progressive voting laws in the country. they're trying to actually make it easier to vote. in turn, you saw huge turnout across the board, but you didn't see democratic turnout matching gop turnout. for you, as someone who's focused on that specific question, what is the lesson coming out of virginia? >> the lesson on tuesday was, one, that having a voter bill of rights, a robust sort of scheme to protect the right to vote will make sure that the will of the people is reflected in the results of the elections. even when you don't like the results of the elections. the second lesson is youngkin did everything that he could to deny the former president, and so there are some lessons about how republicans are going to be running, i think, in the 2022 midterms and going forward. and the idea is, trump, i don't know her. >> i used the same exact line, yes, that is exactly what it is. >> i don't know her, never heard of her. so i think we're going to see more of that. thirdly, you need candidates that people want to vote for. i mean, virginia's elections are unique. the governor can only serve one consecutive term, et cetera. and so i want to be cautious to not try to read more into virginia's results. i mean, i think that tuesday's results in new jersey are also instructive for us as well in things we need to consider as we are preparing for 2022. but the question about who can vote, whether or not their votes are still counted is still on the table as legislatures start to reconvene to draw new trash maps and as we still don't have federal protection for voting rights and we don't have a federal standard for voting rights. and so that question is still unanswered. >> hayes, don't know her, if if she wants to call into a rally for me, i would take that call, welcome that call in the interest of ginning up the trump base. you make a similar argument, arguing what happened in virginia isn't the end all, be all, people shouldn't read into it. what do you think we should take away? >> i mean, i agree with everything that was just said. the fact that he managed to do what felt like the impossible for a long time, which is let trump -- get trump's endorsement, let him say his peace, but not engaging with him or being at the telerallies where trump called in. even his lieutenant governor who was a trump fan, like a really big one, stayed away from the rally where they pledged allegiance to the flag that was at the capitol riot. he managed to do something that i don't know if they're going to be able to pull off in 2024, say, if the president runs again, if his names are on the headlines. right now, as they're thinking about the midterms and their strategy, letting trump kind of say his piece to the base while focusing on riling up suburban voters who are worrying race and gender in school and billing that as being the pro-education party, that seems to have done pretty well. i think that we can take away from virginia. whether it's about critical race theory and all that, i don't buy into that. there's a lot of factors that go into every election, and every election is different. so i think that we can look at virginia and take away some things, but see it as a projection. >> i want to loop back to dean obeidallah's point, which is that voters also have a lot to be angry with republicans over, right? they have a right to be angry over the attacks on reproductive rights and access. they have a right to be angry over their efforts to keep people from voting in a variety of other ways, tinker with our democracy. how do democrats harness that anger and make that a part of 2022 for them? >> someone very smart in democratic politics say democrats are not reverse republicans. so you can't say this worked for the tea party or this should for trump so it will work to rile up democrats. they're temp temperamentally different. people are burned out and they just -- they put so much into politics, they turn so much of their lives over to politics for four years. it's very hard to maintain that. i think some of that might come back when -- it's likely that roe v. wade is going to be overturned before the next election, and i think that that will galvanize people. there's other moments that you can see galvanizing people. but i think the challenge for democrats right now, again, is that people feel like, you know, for their own sanity they have to disengage a little bit. i actually -- i'm not sure the anger brings them back. i think people need hope. >> michelle, hayes, ensay, thank you so much for gigabytes started. next, breaking news in the president's plan to mandate vaccines for some u.s. businesses. a federal appeals court throwing a hurdle this afternoon. we'll explain. plus, huma abedin live in studio to discuss her new book. but first, to richard lui who is standing by with the other big stories we're tracking this hour. richard? >> hey, alicia. some of the stories we're following, a stampede overnight at the astroworld festival in houston left at least eight people dead, at least 13 remain hospitalized. officials say there were reports a security guard was injected with something into his neck and had to be revived. detectives say this is now a homicide and narcotics investigation. 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>> well, it's a strong argument. the occupational safety and health administration, which is the administrative agency charged with implementing this particular emergency temporary standard that requires a vaccination mandate at workplaces that employ more than 100 employees typically has been charged with regulating dangerous chemicals and dangerous workplace conditions. the administration argues that the fact that there is a deadly virus that is circulating is one of those deadly workplace conditions. but the states argue that's not the case, that this exceeds osha's charge, which is really focused on the regulation of true workplace hazards. and they have some law on their side. there have been about nine different emergency temporary standards issued by osha during its history. a number of them have been challenged, but only one has actually survived and been upheld, and it was involving a chemical that was used in rubber manufacturing. this may be a little far afield. as you have also noted, this one came before the 5th circuit, which is a notoriously more conservative circuit. unlikely biden administration is going to find a receptive home there. >> where does it leave the biden administration and these companies? >> well, they have until monday to respond to this temporary stay and the 5th circuit upon getting full briefing by tuesday will make a decision whether to enjoin the vaccination mandate more permanently. and so there's some time here. there's going to be more briefing. the government will have an opportunity to make its case in court. but again, it does look, at least in this circuit, this is going to be a true uphill battle. i will just remind you that this was the same circuit and indeed the same panel of judges that refused to allow the stay on sb 8, that texas abortion statute to be in place enjoining the law from going into effect. >> let me ask you about what we saw from the supreme court this week on that topic. justices heard two separate challenges to texas's near ban on abortion. one of those brought by the department of justice. the solicitor general gave this stark warning during monday's closing arguments. take a listen. >> across the arguments this morning, texas's position is that no one can sue. not the women whose rights are most directly affected, not the providers who've been chilled in being able to provide those women with care, and not the united states in this suit. if that is true that the state can take this simple mechanism of taking its enforcement authority and giving it to the general public, backed up with a bounty of $10,000 or $1 million, if they can do that, then no constitutional right is safe. no constitutional decision from this court is safe. our constitutional guarantees cannot be that fragile, and the supremacy of federal law cannot be that easily subject to manipulation. >> melissa, your sense of how the court reacted to that argument? >> well, i think that argument was one that really made it clear to the court that this is not just about what is happening in texas. it is actually an existential crisis for the court. what is the point of a supreme court whose duty it is to say what the law is if states like texas can decide they don't like precedence and they can design end runs. you are basically undermining your own legitimacy by allowing this law to be in effect. and i think it did hit the way that it was supposed to. on two of the justices who had earlier voted to allow the law to go into effect, justices amy coney barrett and brett kavanaugh seem to be softening, seem to be concerned not only could a private enforcement scheme be deployed, but it would be really problematic for the court itself if rogue states would not feel obliged to comport with those courts' decisions. >> we're going to continue to watch this. we'll see a lot of you. next, what happens when a private person is tossed into the spotlight. huma abedin knows about that. she's ready to share her story on the record live in studio after this quick break. hi susan! honey? 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>> in 2012 when i was working for the secretary of state, michelle bachmann, who was then a member of congress and several other members of congress wrote a letter suggesting that because of my background that i had -- that i was basically not a patriot, that i was giving advice to our secretary of state that was potentially against the interests of our nation. i was not the only muslim-american accused. there were other senior muslims in government and that was a shock to my system, as a proud daughter of two immigrants from india and pakistan, came for the indian dream i spent most of my life growing up in saudi arabia, but my parents took us all over the world. we had that great privilege to travel and learn about other cultures and places and people. and i think when i walked into the white house at 21 in 1996, bringing that depth and breadth of experience was actually an advantage. it was something that the clinton administration, my colleagues were curious about, and i think i was able to bring a different certain perspective to the table and i felt it was always valid. >> when you say 1996, 21, that's a baby. >> i was a baby. i recount what it felt like to be a brown girl standing at the center of the most powerful house in the world and representing my country. it was nothing less than incredible. >> it would be easy to ask what made you so good at this job, but it becomes very clear throughout the book. one of my favorite stories is you ask why you've been chosen for a job and the person you asks says, huma, if the the first lady lost a contact, what would you do? i would get down on my hands and knees and i would look for it, and she's like, yes, that is what it takes. throughout the book there's this question of loyalty and the way loyalty becomes one of your greatest assets. but i do want to ask you, i think the previous administration articulated for us the limits of loyalty and the dangers of loyalty. and i wonder where you see that line as existing? >> well, for me, i open the book with a note from my dad that i found after he died. >> one of my favorite parts. >> it's a commitment to commitment. if somebody expects something from you -- it's why my father was terminally ill. i think it prepared me when i walked into the white house. when i walked in, i wasn't sure i was a democrat. it was a cause. it felt like good, important things were happening. this was an administration at the time, you know, the economy was booming, you had a president actively engaged in the middle east peace process a first lady who was championing women's rights around the world. so it was really about doing the right thing. my father's mantra that he lived by is do the right thing, and every decision i made in my life was doing the right thing, and loyalty is something i do feel, especially towards hillary clinton. she's always been loyal to me. i will always be loyal to her, and the certainly has been tested over the years. >> that note is so strange in its clairvoyance that you would run into. i don't want to ask you about your marriage, but i want to ask you about a slightly different question, which is 11 days before the 2016 election, the emails, the laptop, the interesting part that you write about in the book, you telling your husband, quote, if she loses this election, it will be because of you and me. has your thinking evolved from that? >> yes. a lot of the explanation about me in the last two decades is what is wrong with her and what is she thinking. it's why the book is long and i share exactly what i was thinking through these periods. here we were and the mission was the election and for her to win. anthony and i had obviously grown all of these incredible trials thinking that we could somehow affect the election. yeah, it was devastating, and it took a lot of, you know, work and therapy and getting through to come to the other side. but in that moment, i didn't even feel like i could feel anything because feeling felt selfish. it was this -- it was a horrible -- it was a horrible ten days. >> i think the sitting fbi director at the time made a decision, unprecedented decision to make public this news that they could have easily called me and said can we look at this material. two days before the election say, oh, just kidding there's nothing here. the responsibility falls with that constitution and the leadership there that made that and i will never understand why they did that when they had somebody like me who volunteered and would have given them whatever they wanted. i always try to do the right thing, so that's something i have to live with. >> i think there are a lot of people who confuse proximity to power is actual power. it's very clear you do not have such confusion. >> i don't. >> no. what have you learned about the difference between power by proxy and actual power? >> that you can't forget who you are and where you come from. it's one of the things that -- my father was a plantsman. he would say it's ail about the roots. humans are like plants. it's all about the roots. if your roots are strong, you will survive. and i never confused that this was about me. it was always about hillary. it's one of the reasons i stayed silent, alicia. it was not my story, it was not my campaign. my job was to stay in the background. i think that helped keep me grounded when things got really bad because even then, even that announcement 11 days before the election i knew wasn't about me. it was a convenient way to derail my boss and it was successful. >> this book is, if nothing else, on ode to female zip there's a whole chapter called "hillary land" and i talk about it comes with lifetime membership. all of these traditions we have, how are you feeling, see my al gist, i want to take care of you, this culture in hillary land is all of these things because she's all of these things. but i say later in the book for much of my 20s took my female friendships for granted. it wasn't until i went through really hard things in my life and i think a lot of women might be able to relate that when you make choices in your relationship you are judged both by men and women. and i had taken they see relationships for granted, that i was never really there for them, but then to have a whole new group of friends come into my life, i talk about anna wintour being such an important person in my life because she did that for me. she gave me the gift of friendship and brought in a new circle of friends. and on my lowest days, they have been there for me and i now cherish those friendships. it's work, but it's work you should -- it's worth investing in. >> huma abedin, thanks for being here. her new book "both/and: a life in many worlds," out now. more "american voices" after this. so they only pay for what they need. woooooooooooooo... we are not getting you a helicopter. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ for people living with h-i-v, keep being you. and ask your doctor about biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in certain adults. it's not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to and stay undetectable. that's when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test. research shows people who take h-i-v treatment every day and get to and stay undetectable can no longer transmit h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems. do not take biktarvy if you take dofetilide or rifampin. tell your doctor about all the medicines and supplements you take, if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have kidney or liver problems, including hepatitis. if you have hepatitis b, do not stop taking biktarvy without talking to your doctor. common side effects were diarrhea, nausea, and headache. if you're living with hiv, keep loving who you are. and ask your doctor if biktarvy is right for you. 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>> well, i mean, the meme of it all is what everyone gravitated towards. that was such a kind of superficial story because it was really premised on a lot of misunderstandings that the media made, that twitter made. and the story took on a life of its own. so the opportunity to go behind the curtain, so to speak, to go behind the meme and see the people at the heart of this who & how their lives were completely turned upside down, how their lives have changed and how they embarked on this underdog american success story was a really interesting journey to follow. >> sean, i want to play a bit of your interview with the president of four seasons total landscaping. take a listen. >> i got a phone call from my son, anthony, and he said, mom, this is bigger than we think. and he sends me a picture while i'm talking to him. and rudy is sitting at my desk and the plaque in front of my desk says "boss lady." i looked at my husband and i said we got to get over there. >> what did you learn about how this press conference came to be? >> well, i think what we learned was that everything you think you know unfolds completely differently once you get down the road with christopher in this. we were incredibly excited to unfold the narrative that honestly we didn't even know existed. we were able to peel back kind of the onion a bit here and partner with a great team over at msnbc that was able to pull this story together with us. christopher did a great job getting with family and he was able to really let them tell their own story. we look for stories that are stories that, you know, are too stories that are too good to be true, and this is one of them. and i think at every turn it amazed us. >> christopher, i think one of the things that gets lost in this story is that the family who runs four seasons got a lot of backlash online. can you give us a sense of what that looked like and how they sort of then jujitsu'd it into something that was actually positive for their business? >> yeah, i mean the day after they were getting literally thousands of phone calls, e-mails. their page was completely inundated with one-star reviews telling outright lies. and for a moment their 29-year business, you know, could go completely up in smoke. and so for them they had to figure out a way to communicate to the world that they were actually in on the joke, that they were laughing too. and they had this self-awareness to be able to look at themselves and laugh. and it really was just absurd. i mean, the president's lawyer is in front of a garage door of a landscaping company giving his press conference on a day the election is called for joe biden. and it was such an emperor has no clothes moment where the whole world got to look at this and say well there's something else actually going on here. and for four seasons total landscaping, by laughing at themselves they figured out how to play this to their benefit. >> sean, you're both during a great job of teasing the doc. because everything you think you know is not true but i'm not going to tell you what that is. so now everyone is going to have to go and watch it and see for themselves. i do wonder what's the main thing you hope viewers are going to take away from this? >> i mean, i hope they're going to find -- what christopher said. it's an american underdog story. these people are your next door neighbors. they're your family, your friends. and they were thrown into a situation that i think any of us would have been completely consumed by. and what they were able to do was battle this thing and make it, you know, their own and turn it into something that has -- a year later lived in infamy and will continue to i think once this documentary shows the story. >> christopher, how did you get the family onboard? >> well, i was lucky. i mean, my friend was actually brothers with sean middleton, director of sales. but when i approached them they were incredibly leerily because they had this huge wall up, and they wanted to know why the press conference happened there. and my approach from the beginning was always less about focusing on the mystery and more trying to get into the heart of who these people were, like sean said, how their world had been completely turned upside-down and how they're dealing with it. can you imagine this happening to you? i certainly couldn't. i mean, the media just completely consumed them. and, you know, what do they do now? >> sean, christopher, everyone cannot wait to watch this now. thank you so much. the four seasons total documentary is set to air on the one-year anniversary of the press conference in case you don't have that in your calender this sunday at 10:00 p.m. on msnbc. next, the historic pick to lead the census bureau and why he might be the perfect man for the moment. but first here's a look what else is coming up on msnbc. i'm ayman mohyeldin and coming up tonight, after tuesday's big election loss for democrats everyone is searching for what or who to blame. we're going to take you through their wheel of excuses and what this could all mean for the midterms in 2022. tonight tune in 8:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc for ayman. rs. when you have an irregular heartbeat, it's more. it's dignity. the freedom to go where you want, knowing your doctor can watch over your heart. ♪♪ as someone who resembles someone else, i appreciate that liberty mutual knows everyone's unique. that's why they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh, yeah. that's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ at fidelity, your dedicated advisor will work with you on a comprehensive wealth plan across your full financial picture. a plan with tax-smart investing strategies designed to help you keep more of what you earn. this is the planning effect. the best things america makes are the things america makes out here. the history she writes in her clear blue skies. the legends she births on hometown fields. and the future she promises. when we made grand wagoneer, proudly assembled in america, we knew no object would ever rank with the best things in this country. but we believed we could make something worthy of their spirit. people, with quickbooks live but we believed we could make someone else will do your books for you. they'll even pair you with an expert bookkeeper like me, who knows your business. knows... your... business! expert bookkeepers who understand your business. intuit quickbooks live bookkeeping. theo is saving big holiday shopping at amazon. so now, he's free to become, thoughtful theo. and he's got a gift for everyone. so thoughtful. align. fast acting biotic gummies helps soothes occasional abdominal discomfort, gas, and bloating and it works fast. in as little as 7 days try fast acting biotic gummies from align. the #1 doctor recommended probiotic brand. as a dj, i know all about customization. that's why i love liberty mutual. they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? 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