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just of the top here to update you on the news this evening, since rachael went off the air. the house has voted on something, and in news more specific plea is they have finally passed the bipartisan infrastructure bill, a cornerstone for all these many months of the biden agenda. 13 republicans voted in favor, across the aisle to vote with democrats. six democrats voted against the infrastructure bill, more on that in a moment. it is now on its way to the presidents desk, i want to play for you the moment when it was apparent on the floor of the house of representatives, that this was going to pass, and the spontaneous democratic celebration with. >> on this vote, the aids or 228, and the nays are 206. the motion is adopted. >> and i want to go right to ali vitali, our correspondent on capitol hill, who is with us for the last hour of live coverage. ali, is this a in a car going to the white house. because as you pointed out, the president having canceled his trip home to rehoboth beach delaware, he is in the residence, he is ready to sign this, a good number of democrats want to brag about being received goals about all the money in this, where it's going, and who will be helped. >> well, they did just call a lid at the white house, brian, so we're probably not going to see the white house tonight. but that's not going to say that we're not going to hear from other democrats who are championing this moment in a democratic majorities here in congress, as well as for the biden white house. my inbox immediately filled up with emailed applause from senators who had been wanting this to pass from other lawmakers and institutions who have been lobbying for different aspects of this bill, because this is a win for democrats. it shows that you heard on the floor there, come after hours and weeks of hard deliberations and negotiations. poly at sea items that were important for progressives falling by the wayside in iterations of this bill, only to be to revive them brought back in. moderates having their arms twisted so they'd be moved to vote on this bill tonight, even though they were asking to see a congressional budget score on the vote that we haven't seen yet, which is on the build back better act, which is a larger social spending package. i want to walk you through what's about to happen. because, there is celebration about the bipartisan infrastructure bill passing. now, though, we're seeing the house go on a procedural vote. there's going to be one procedural vote, followed by a second procedural vote. it's the second one that actually matters, because it's the second one that kept all these different factions of the democratic party on board tonight. the second vote is a vote on the rule for the build back better act. it's what you need before you actually proceed on to an actual vote for that acts. and that goal, the actual vote, is not going to come for about a week. but there is a commitment that it will come on the week of november 15th. the house and the senator are both out next week, there henri, says many of the lawmakers here in this building feels very well earned considering the late hour and the hard work they've done, but when they get back the house is going to move on this build back better act, the larger social spending bill, so that they can send that over to the senate and begin the process there. so, the work might be done on one part of this, but certainly still continuing on another. >> so, ali, another way of doing it, on this huge buy it in big back better, that we've been admonished by don enjoy when others are they need a better name. is that they're going to have ayo use that placate in satisfy everybody, as long as the numbers a according to the auditors at the cream gushing alleged office, as long as the numbers come out even steven, they will get the votes they are owed. are we correct about that? >> that's exactly right. that's the agreement handful of moderates made with progressives, putting it in a letter, putting it out publicly, giving their assurances that if progressives came along on this bipartisan infrastructure vote, which they have, then moderate democrats would come through for them. not just on this build back better act, it's just a procedural sleight of hand so that democrats can say they moved on both of these bills in tandem, which was always the plan. but instead, moderates now saying they vowed that they would move with the rest of their party, in two weeks really, on the build back better act. once they see a cbo score, once they see what the actual monetary impact is, barring anything crazy, even steven as you said, they will move with the rest of their party to push this next phase of it through to the senate. >> i'm, ali, final question might be a little bit dicey. i realize you report on congress, you are not the speaker majority or minority leader, you don't make policy. >> thankfully, yes. >> just curious, when people in american life kept busy at work, it's not uncommon, certainly in our line of work, to the kinds of vacationer time off yet scheduled. what are both houses of congress, at this point in the biden presidency doing taking next week off? >> win this was the plan, congress doesn't love to get rid of their vacations, this is why they might not be super popular with the american people. i can say, though, in the weekends that they've had, even though they haven't been technically voting in congress. we have seen the committees doing their work on crafting the policy that they've been assigned to craft. we've seen lawmakers continuing to have these negotiations behind the scenes. the caucuses have been huddling, and meeting on zoom or if they're here in person, or on the phone. this hasn't stopped. over the course of the last few weeks, if anything, brian, the momentum has only gained force, in part because the white house has really felt the pressure on this. they've wanted to not sherwin. maybe before the virginia governor's race, there we know now that that virginia race is gone last forever for democrats. really, there is a continued push here, and we're going to continue to see the sustained pressure from progressives who can't afford to lose a momentum that they have here. they have now lost their leverage, because they voted on the bipartisan infrastructure bill, and it's going to go to the presidents desk. this is now all about the social spending package, when they were working those two bills together progressives had a lot of leverage there. now, though, this is all about the personalities that we have been focused on in washington, joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, we know that activists have continue to follow them, even though they have no longer been physically here on the hill for about a day or so, but this pressure is only going to continue. recess week is good for them wet, they are probably going to use is time to do quite frankly, is go home and start telling this to their districts because so far the message has been process, process, process. you're not really so much when your flame process. instead it's, now on democrats to sell what they've actually done here, the tunnels that they're going to build, the bridges of the going to bolster, with the infrastructure bill they already passed, and with the social spending package that they're hoping to make progress on around thanksgiving and the wing acts after that. >> diplomacy like that, you could cover the state department, go have the beverage of your choice ali batali, thank you for staying up late with us and covering the story so beautifully tonight at the capitol. ali vitali, are women on the hill, don calloway remains with us tonight, democratic strategist, founders of the national predict -- susan del percio back with us, and a veteran political activist. susan l start with you on this side, these democrats who have not voted for infrastructure, and maybe a tougher 60,000 foot question. what are we, are we have progressive country, are we have center country, are we have center-right, center-left, what do you think we are? >> yes. we're all of that. >> that's all the time we have, good evening everybody. >> we hear is a thing we, this infrastructure bill is fantastic it is bipartisan but it could've been done three moments ago, and the president probably wouldn't have seen his poll numbers go quite so low, because when elsa re-looking at here tonight, what was the second vote? it was celebrate being that they negotiate with themselves. and they still have to send a negotiated bill to the senate, which will not get approved as it is. so, i think we are looking into way past thanksgiving, probably december as they come across the debt ceiling. and, all of this is just completely wasted time in that they could have gotten this done sooner, and they probably would've ended up with the same results. i am a little curious about the vote tonight with, the progressive caucus voting know, don mentioned earlier that those members were able to vote no because pelosi knew she had the votes, but it is kind of a stuff on the nose to moderate democrats, who made a deal to vote yes on these next come a couple of things, and they didn't share it. i find it a little bit disingenuous. >> don calloway, i can offer you 45 seconds in either rebuttal or agreement with susan. >> well the first thing that's important to note is that there is democrats can vote that way because they have safe seats. the second thing is, i don't know that this country is progressive, i certainly think that we're moving away from the conservative side of things. but fundamentally this country as a socially evolving, but capitalist country. that is the fundamental ideology of the country, is a classic, capitalist, oligarch society. i don't want to get to cornell west here in the late hour, but shout out to the homey ali vitali, he is done so much humans work, so they can't think of anything to say, just give props to their jeans because they deserve it. >> as i was trying to do to all of our friends, tonight for covering the, story analyzing the story so well, and hanging out with us into what is now saturday morning here on the east. big thanks to ali vitali, and our friends don calloway and susan del percio, to the rest of our viewers who tuned in expecting to see rachel maddow, she is coming on, right after this break. t afte this break clerk: hello, how can i? sore throat pain? ♪honey lemon♪ try vicks vapocool drops. in honey lemon chill. for fast-acting sore throat relief. wooo vaporize sore throat pain with vicks vapocool drops. in business, setbacks change everything. so get comcast business internet and add securityedge. it helps keep your network safe by scanning for threats every 10 minutes. and unlike some cybersecurity options, this helps protect every connected device. yours, your employees' and even your customers'. so you can stay ahead. get started with a great offer and ask how you can add comcast business securityedge. plus for a limited time, ask how to get a $500 prepaid card when you upgrade. happy friday, this was good call today. news, there is a bunch of good news today, and this is the news that i woke up to today that i almost couldn't believe i. the trial took about -- people who got covid, and within five days of starting to show symptoms, half of the people in the trial got the drug, and have got placebo's. so there were 600 people got the placebo, of those 600 people who effectively weren't treated, got a placebo inside of the drug. 41 of those 600 people ended up in the hospital. tended of them ended up dying. >> but there are these other 600 people who got the drug on the same timeline. and of those 600 people who got the drug, there weren't 41 people hospitalized, there were six people hospitalized. and there weren't ten people who died, there were zero. we those were the results among people who got the drug five days after they got their first symptoms. just dramatically better odds in terms of getting yourself of the hospital, and staying alive. so for people who got the drug within five days of first showing symptoms, the results were even stronger amongst people who got the drugs even faster, if you can get the drug within three days of showing symptoms, well they were just under 400 people in that group who got the drug a little bit earlier, in the placebo group the people who didn't get the drug, sadly 27 of those people and up in the hospital, seven of them died. and for people who got the drug, only three people and it up in the hospital, and none of them tied. these are phenomenally good results. if you are older than 65, or if you've got any of the gazillion cockburn videos that technically make you higher risk for serious illness if you get covid, if these clinical trial results bear out, it looks like we're about to have a drug that will make it 89% less likely that you're going to end up in the hospital or dead. if you get infected with covid and you can get this drug early, right after you start having symptoms, 89% effective at reducing hospitalizations and death. that is, off the charts. this is a new drug from pfizer, a couple of weeks ago your remember, merck went to the fda to try to get approval for its covid treatment, its new anti viral pill. the data on the merck bill, frankly, looked great, it reduce the risk of hospitalization and death by 50%. but this other one that we just got the new data on from pfizer, it's not 50% effective, it's nearly 90% effective. that is potentially huge. a lot of people today observing this, called this a potential game-changer in terms of the pandemic, the people who i think had the sort of broadest horizons, the clearest long term vision on the spending from the beginning, have just been rejoicing today at this news. you put this into the broader picture, between the vaccination rates, taking up an up in upslope, but still ticking up an up with the vaccine requirements. more and more them going into effect all over the country, which will bring the adult vaccination rates up even higher, with kids ages five and up now being proof for vaccines. that will bring the overall vaccination rates up even higher. and now coming down the pipe, relaunch freeman often says they can keep people from being hospitalized and dying. i mean, this is getting close to the point where our armament aryan is full, we've got a full quicker. science will perhaps end up saving us from the saying. lots of caveats, lots of things still to watch for. first of all this is just a clinical trial data, it is impure reviewed yet, it's important to note, but also encouraging that the oversight board that was advising the trial, actually told him to call off the trial to stop it because the efficacy of the drug was so strong in the trial, and so evident in the trial, that according to the advisory board they believed it was no longer ethical to keep the trial going because it was no longer ethical to give half the people in the trial a placebo. not when the other people in the trial we're showing such incredible benefit from it. that is a very, very strong sign. still, though it's not peer reviewed, that's a very important part of the process. we also are going to have to see what pfizer times in terms of getting this pill made. and importantly, made all over the world. merck, with their anti viral pill, they said a really good example last, week they took their anti viral pill to the medicines patent pill at the un, thereby made a deal to let countries all over the world, factories all over the world start making their anti viral pill. including factories in africa, asia, other places where particularly poor populations but have a hard time competing for and affording a western manufactured drug. merck took major steps, last week, unprecedented steps last week, to make sure that it's and have our pill that keeps people alive who get infected with covid, they took unprecedented steps last week to make sure that it was going to be made available for real all over the world. pfizer, with its pill, they're going to have to do that, or something like that with this drug as well. if this all turns out to be as good as it looks, they are going to have to follow that same path, or something that will have that same effects. i mean, this isn't a cure, that's not how disease like this work, apparently. but, again, look at we've got, we've now got ways to stop most people from getting this disease, and to stop people from getting super sick and dying if they do get it. i mean, well, you know, if you've got those two pieces of it, if you've got a vaccine because most people from getting it, and treatment that prevents people from getting too sick and dying if they do get infected. i mean, we're on the road home. think good thoughts, thanks peter science. and honestly, thanks be to the activists over the years who forced this issue of people in poor countries being able to get lifesaving drugs, even when those drugs were invention in the west. because those activists forced these pathways, which we are now finally going to use to make sure people in poor countries can get western drive drugs for a global pandemic. because we need to treat it, and get rid of it worldwide or will never go away anywhere. but these things finally falling into place, honestly this could be the road home, it's such good news. i know, if you're not playing close attention to it, you see this headline and think oh an interesting trial, no, this is a big deal. this is not abandon a road, this is a right turn. so, it's really really good news, we're gonna have more on this coming up a little later on, including some of the surprising news about old drug research. and honestly, the old activism around drugs and helped make this new drug possible. not a cure, but it is looking like this might bring us way closer than we ever thought we would get to what is effectively a cure. so that's great news, on a totally different front we also got great news on the economy today, and jobs. we -- might have seen headlines about how the u.s. economy is roaring back, that's because of both the good news yesterday, which was top with good news, and the good news today came with its own extra good news chaser. yesterday we got the unemployment claims, which is the number of americans filing for unemployment claims each week, the week before president biden was inaugurated, the weekly unemployment rate claims were just astonishingly table rubble. it was the last week of the trump administration, 886,000 americans filed for unemployment that week, terrible. as of this week, the number is down to 269,000. it is dropped nearly 70%. that means that in terms of the numbers of americans applying for unemployment per week, we are back now, almost to normal levels before the pandemic even happened. that was the news yesterday, today the news got better. economists were expecting the number of new jobs added to the economy would be about 450, 000, when the numbers actually came in this morning turns out of his 531,000. considerably better than expectations. and, the numbers for the past two months got adjusted today to, turns out the numbers that were reported for august and september, those numbers were incorrect, they were too low, there are missions today show that in the last two months there were another 235,000 jobs added, on top of the 531,000 reported today. which is, honestly, a stunning number. it's great news, about the economy, and that's why you saw the stock market issued up today, that's why there were all these headlines today about the economy roaring back. to put it in perspective in a way that your trump supporting friends might find easy to grasp. president trump and his supporters, including republican members of congress, even today, they like to talk about how well the economy did in trump's first two years in office. they like to claim that in trump's first two years in office we have the greatest u.s. economy in history, more jobs created than ever. it's never been all that sound acclaim from the very beginning, but the reason they make that claim is because in the first two years trump was in office, the economy created four and a half million jobs. but now as of today, we know in president biden's first ten months in office the economy has created 5.8 million jobs. oh. now trump folks love to drag about the job numbers in the first two years of trump's term, so far the economy under joe biden's way, way, way out ahead of his numbers. don't forget, if you're writing for the beltway press, all day, every day, every story has to be about how the democrats are doomed. [laughs] there are huge economic gains under president biden, i'll see game changing scientific breakthroughs, and by the way the other party standing bears are gonna need an abacus soon, to count up all the grand jury is hearing evidence about him. and the beltway presses thinking about how the democrats should just abolish himself, things are so terrible for them. another one of those days. this is what the streets look like today in glasgow, scotland, outside the international climate summit they're, thousands of protesters in the street demanding real action on climate change from the world leaders gathered there for the big climate summit. organizers say tens of thousands of people took part in today's protests, and if you look closely at who all those tens of thousands of people were today, you'll quickly noticed a lot of the protesters were really young, lots of college kids, lots of teenagers that took off from school. and even a lot of kids so young that they were here today with her parents. and we saw a lot of great signs here today. every disaster movie starts with ignoring a statist. also this one, there is no planet b. i felt quite young and hip today when i understood this one to be nelly reference. it's getting hot in here, so take off all your cool. also this one, i want to hug boyfriend not a hot planet. there were not a lot of older folks out today in glasgow, that's because this big protest was kind of an appetizer for what's coming tomorrow. today's protest was specifically a youth protest, it was organized by fridays for future you protest group, the founder of that group greta thunberg gave the headline speech today, she didn't pull any punches, she didn't put a shine on it. she called the climate summit a failure at a pr event, she thought it it had turned into a two week long celebration of business as usual, which he has famously shorthanded as blah blah blah. she gave that speech today but again, those massive protests today, those big youth protest today in scotland just a preview of what's expected to be even bigger march is coming tomorrow. 100,000 people of all ages are expected to protest for climate justice tomorrow in glasgow, which is a unique way to put pressure on those world leaders there. we're also watching this developing news tonight, that the effort to bring a criminal code charge to former governor andrew cuomo might be clad collapsing tonight. we're gonna have more of this later on, but when the news first broke a few days ago that a misdemeanor charge have been filed in albany, new york against cuomo related to the sexual view, sexual harassment scandal that led him to resign the governorship. we noted that the time that time was filed, the process was a little hanky, there seemed to be some procedural, some unusual things about that process through which of the charges filed. these things seem to be getting done the bag not usually the way they get done, for those initially concerned about how this was unfolding, those seem to be bearing fruit tonight. the prosecutors office tonight in that part of new york state, is basically calling foul, and saying that charges cannot be pursued in this way. this story about andrew cuomo is turning to a very sticky wicket, we're going to have more on that story coming up, it continues to be a developing story tonight. so like i, said lots going on. a bunch of good news tonight, but also just a lot of interesting news, all of developing news, a lot of suffering still watching even this late into a friday night. but here, right now, here is my nomination for just purely the weirdest and most surprising news story of the day. this is a story that michael schmidt broke in the new york times, and when i read this in the new york times today, every single word of it was completely new to me. completely out of the blue. it was like a newspaper visiting from another planet. who did what, there's an investigation, a raid, investigation into who for what's got stolen? this was all completely news to me. here's the headline today, in the times, quote, people tied to project very toss scrutinized in theft of diary from biden's daughter. what? you see the sum head there, the fbi carried out search warrants in new york as part of a justice department investigation, into how pages from actually biden's journal came to be published by a right-wing website. the theft of a diary from the daughter of president biden? we here is how michael schmidt in the times, today, explained what happened here. a week and a half before they 2020 election on october 24th, apparently, some random right-wing website published images, publish pictures handwritten pages of what appeared to be the personal diary of prized and biden's daughter, actually. quote, the trump administration justice department, then led by attorney general william barr, open an investigation into the matter, shortly after a representative of the biden family, reported to federal authorities in october 2020 it several of miss biden's personal items had been stolen in a burglary. well, now today, into an investigation that the times that was being handled by fbi agents and federal prosecutors in manhattan who work on public corruption matters. today, in conjunction with that investigation, two homes were searched by the fbi. an apartment on east 35th street in manhattan, an apartment in suburban west chester county just north of new york city. both properties are associated with the right-wing activist group, project veritas. which put out a statement today after the times broke its story denouncing the fact that the fbi had carried out these searches, but also confirming that they happened. also confirming that the group had something to do with the handling of the stolen item. now but, again, considering what's the stolen item is, this is kind of knots is not. a burglary? that results in the president's daughter having her personal diary stolen? the diary pages and a published on a right-wing website, now the fbi is raiding houses of members of this right-wing group, and the right-wing group that their members had access to the sting stolen from the president's daughter? what's? if this was a movie you would've walked out and now, because this would've been too outlandish to believe if this was a movie this would be two fictional to pass muster. as reality, this is absolutely unbelievable. joining us now is michael schmidt, washington correspondent for the new york times, he's a lead byline on the scoop today. mr. schmidt, thank you for making time. >> thanks for having me. how >> am i misconstruing any of this, or missing any important part of it. i confess that i had no idea that actually biden's diary had been stolen, that how pieces ended up certainly an 80 in the press. and explaining any of that wrong? >> no, i think the biggest thing that stands up to me about this, is that this comes out ten days before the 2020 election. this was a period of time in which donald trump was trying to do everything he could to undermine the biden children. we had the entire hunter life top issue flying around, rudy giuliani pushing it. and in the middle of it this came out, and very few people picked up on it. but, at the heart of it, and what is emerging, could be one of the dirtiest tricks that went on against sort of, innocent bystanders in the entire 2020 election. here is someone who had a low profile, was a child of one of the candidates, and was burglarized, her diary was stolen, and was put on line. now, it didn't receive a public attention, and there's good reason why didn't. but it is a pretty significant thing, that i certainly have seen in all the ups and downs and backs and force of the past few years. >> it's incredible, and again because so much of this is new to the public right now because nobody knew this had happened. what can you tell us about the burglary itself, was disbelieved at the time to have been a run-of-the-mill property crime that had nothing to do with them is biden's family relations or is this something that they thought it from the beginning might have been a politically motivated effort? do we know anything about the initial crime here? >> so, we are early in our own sort of fact finding on this, and we're sort of feeling our way through it. all that we really know about the burglary is that there was a burglary, it was in 2020, personal items were taken, so things beyond this were taken and we don't know when else was there. and that, when a representative of the biden family went to the justice department in october of 2020, they reported that this burglary had happens in the course of explaining to them what was going on. and that investigation began in october of 2020, before election day of that year, and as you're reading off that's under attorney general william barr, who also opened up the matt gates investigation in this period of time as well. >> and michael, you and your colleagues mentioned today in your reporting that this investigation is being handled by fbi agents, but also by prosecutors who work on public corruption matters. is this a public corruption matter because of the way the purloined items were used, apparently to try to cause some sort of political harm to president biden, or is it a public corruption matter for some other reason, do we know? >> i'm not sure, but when i think it's here, and it's important to point out is that project bare tops raised this issue in the statement that they put out today. and it's almost certainly something that the justice department had to wrestle with here. project very toffees ourselves as a journalistic outfit. they think there are journalistic organization. and if you are a media organization like msnbc or the washington post or the new york times, the government in its investigation of you, has to treat you not differently, but there's different requirements and pressures and levels that these have to go through when moving for a routine investigation. it's hard to think of the justice department executing search warrants at the homes of reporters for local newspapers. but here you had the justice department moving, executing search warrants at the homes of current and former employees of project veritas. so, it does not seem like at least from what we know, and we are early and looking from the outside in, that the justice department in looking at project vero times, as a journalistic outfit, because it's hard to believe that the justice department would take such an extreme measure, executing search warrants on reporters. >> right, and it should be noted that project very test itself does not claim to have been the entity that published this stolen material. >> in fact, they say that they tried to verify it, could not verify, it and tried to return it to actually biden, and to give it to the justice department. and that they had it, and they essentially didn't do anything with it, in terms of using it. they sort of exercise their judgment in that area. >> again, we're talking about the personal diary of the president's daughter, stolen and then published by a right-wing website right before the election, and now an fbi raid on members of this right-wing group. to try to track down what happened with this burglary and where this information came from. it's just an unbelievable story, michael schmidt and his colleagues at the new york times are the ones who broke this today. michael, i know that you're gonna stay on this, we'll look forward to talk about this is much more of this comes clear. >> thanks for having me. >> all right, we've got much more to come here tonight. but a weird, we are news day this is, stay with us. we are news day this is, stay with us. this is, stay with us. ♪ and i'm gonna keep on lovin' you, ♪ ♪ 'cause it's the only thing i wanna do. ♪ turns out everyone does sound better in the shower. and it turns out the general 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has come along which is what president biden was bragging about today. it's a new drug, this one from pfizer, and this one shows almost 90% effectiveness, at least in this key clinical trial that they have just released the data. from a brought down the chances of being hospitalized or killed by the sting by 89%. now, the devils in the details, of course. you have to get it quickly. the 89% reduction is for people who are at high risk of severe covid. a lot more data has to be released, it hasn't been peer reviewed data yet. but, the devils of the detail. the details in these ones are fascinating. and the early indications here are that this is really really good news, honestly. joining us now is doctor vin gupta, critical care pulmonologist, he is at the institute for health evaluation. he has worked on the epidemiology of global health diseases like respiratory viruses over the past decade. he is a real expert in the field. doctor gupta, thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. good evening. >> we have talked in the past about the monoclonal antibodies, and about the merck antiviral pill, which the fda is looking at now. and the uk just approved. i cancels options, against the other options that you and your fellow people have for treating people with covid. how do you feel about this pfizer prospect? >> you know, rachel, we are really bullish by this. it's hard to overstate the enthusiasm, here specifically for what this means for the world. lower middle income countries if they can afford. and this many nation's combination therapy. it is based on a drug class copious inhibitors that we've long used for example to target those individuals affected with hiv. or even hepatitis. and the idea for your viewers is that if you get infected, if you have early symptoms within the first few days, this medication stops coronavirus from replicating in your lungs cells, which at first targets. so it basically stopped progression of affected. it does what we've been talking about for months in monoclonal antibodies. it does the same exact things, but until. for the big issue here is equity and distribution. right now, australia, the united kingdom, the u.s., south korea have first dibs on the remaining supplies for 2021 just like with mark. that's going to have to change if we want to save lives. >> in terms of this being a combination there be, not only is it related to that class of drugs that you are describing in the hiv drugs, but part of this is written of, year which is in fact an anti hiv drug, which we've used for a long time. i know from the experience to hiv, while previous -- have been america by extending the life expensed and see for people living with hiv. a lot of people have had a lot of trouble in terms of side effects. previous inhibitors are both a huge success story but people who have to take them, have strictly taken them indefinitely with living with hiv infection, there can be no picnic. especially in terms of side effects. is this going to be a drug that is going to have taller biloxi issues, and side effect issues? >> thank you for mentioning that rachel, it is a low dose, as you mentioned, it's a combination. it's a drug formulation that we use for individuals affected by hiv. the reason that we give this as part of that anti coronavirus medication is because it actually prevents the activation in this therapy from getting broken down by our bodies and signs. that low dose, for only five days, the idea is that there is only five days that yes while there are mile gusher, nausea, vomiting, gonorrhea,. -- for people who take this, that could be potentially lifelong. so you're really dealing with not only dyson thumbs, but with little informations or four other serious side effects, we just don't see that in the minimal data that's been presented, i should note, by pfizer in a press release. so the devil, as you pointed out is going to be in the details. but it looks like early signs suggest that this is pretty mild side effect profiles, because of the duration. >> yes, again, just a five-day course of this anti viral showing these profound effects us. doctor vin gupta, critical care pulmonologist, at the faculty for health evaluation at washington. doctor gupta, i always appreciate you being here. thank you so much. >> thank you, appreciated. >> all right, we've got lots more to come tonight, much more on washington, where the democrats might actually maybe be passing the stink tonight. maybe. don't hold me to it. we'll be right back. l be right back. so you both sleep just right. and it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both effortlessly comfortable. so, you can really promise better sleep? yes! you'll know exactly how well you slept, night after night. we take care of the science. all you have to do is sleep. don't miss our weekend special. save $1,000 on the sleep number 360 special edition smart bed, now only $1,999. plus, 0% interest for 48 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