conference. here's a live look awaiting the president's comments. we want do go right now straight to nbc's kelly o'donnell joining me from rome. good evening there local time. walk us through what we can expect to hear from the president. >> reporter: certainly this is a chance for president biden to speak to the american people through the reporters who are on the trip asking questions. likely about some of the meetings he's had here and likely also about some of the domestic issues he left back in washington, some still unresolved like the build back better agenda that is still not yet law and he wants do get that done and it would have certainly helped in the negotiations to have what's a framework to be passed legislation. all of that is likely to be thrashed out in the questions and answers why the president had two days of meetings here. some one on one interactions with other world leaders or group leaders and the g20 are the largest economies and it goes beyond economics and there's sometimes the personal issues and the political overlay and the relationships that are important with the u.s. and counter parts. we have seen how the president had to repair some bruised feelings and between the u.s. and france over the issue of nuclear submarines, a deal that the u.s. made with the uk and australia that cut out france. they felt blindsided by that and quite upset and led to new step where is the u.s. is ending tariffs against aluminum and steel and the european union is ending taxes on some american goods and should free up some tensions that have existed between the u.s. and europe and meetings between the president a ten leader of turkey and issues there dealing with syria. turkey a member of nato bought russian equipment. that is a tension point. there have been conversations that the president has had with the outgoing chancellor of germany. climate will be the next big item as they leave italy and head to ireland for cop26. the 26th time they have gotten together to deal with climate and big expectations about what can these countries do to lower carbon emissions, to try to deal with a planet that's getting warmer. these are big problems and the countries are trying to come up with solutions. another step taken here is an agreement among the nations gathered here to have a global minimum tax rate. that's an effort to try to reduce the number of tax havens and the world with corporations with businesses set up in places driving some of the enterprise to countries that compete in a downward spiral toward tax xax creating imbalances. having that level of taxation on a more level playing field can help to pay for soernl intervention just the u.s. comes in compliance with this new policy with the build back better jaenld. these are complex issues. important globally. they take a long time to work on before the days when the leaders show up. many of the top staff of presidents and prime ministers are around the world work for many months before the leaders get together and then expecting to see president biden taking questions from the press on a whole range of issues. could be about what's happened here, events back home. lindsay? >> these big high level issues on the docket watches throughout the weekend and we know a goal here of the president's trip to reassert the u.s. on the world. how scuffle do you think president biden has been in doing that this weekend? >> reporter: president biden came in to office and had an earlier series of stops overseas talking about america being back. at the same time we saw that the president took steps to end the u.s. presence in afghanistan, something that a number of allies were dismayed by and did not feel consulted about. that was a source of tension. there have been other concerns that have been raised on economic issues so it's not an easy picture but the u.s. says that relationships have been strong and improving and there were personal connections made here and something that the president has to answer for and will likely be asked about. it's something that can be measured on specific issues, country by country or region by region. president biden by his personality, style and set of issues to deal with is different than president trump and wants to project a different kind of leadership and it is not easy and the polling back home is showing some challenges for him domestically. political headwinds for him and the opportunity to be on the world stage give him a chance to reset some of that, to enhance some connections that he's made. remembering that president biden has had a 50-year career in public life. a lot of that in the area of foreign policy, an area he sees himself comfortable and having long relationships. that's something that will be measured and tested over time but an issue he tried to project american leadership and there's questions in the first year of administration and things like covid, the vaccine, the u.s. has distributed more around the world than any other nation and questions if the u.s. should make more vaccines available or allow for the formula, the patented formula that companies have to be made available to poorer nations. some of those tensions still exist. >> thank you. senior white house correspondent there in rome. want to bring in the panel awaiting the news conference. joining me is robby agruwal and michael mcfaul. robby, we've seen like kelly was saying a bunch of high level issues, a keel with european union on tariffs. what do you see as the big takeaways so far? >> as we just heard there are some things seen as a success. the minimum max deal if it passes in the senate you need a two thirds majority in the u.s. senate is important. the u.s./eu tariffs agreement is all successes that i think the biden administration will tout. maybe in the speech to just hear from president biden. but i think that might be the message back home here in the united states. but globally people around the world are going to want a lot more detail in terms of vaccines and climate commitments. from the vaccine front, no matter what is agreed today, the fact remains that only about 300 million vaccines are going to be made available to the global south this year and that's simply not enough. in most poor countries 4% of vaccinated. that is not good enough for those countries and if those places aren't safe it is clear that we could have other variants of the coronavirus to hurt the rich world so that's an area where i think a lot of people in other countries will be looking to see what can emerge and not enough has but then lastly with climate agreements i think this is the big sticking point because we knew going into this the world needed to raise more money for climate financing around the world. the basic $100 billion a year promised earlier isn't met and we need trillions. that will be the big agenda and so far it's not enough. >> mike, we have two world leaders ab sent. vladimir putin and xi jinping. how do you think the president has done on the world stage? >> compared to what? we are not talking about an american president attending a multi lateral organization and having fights with allies and having good meetings with autocratic dictators. i attended and i bet you nobody can remember a g20 in the past. on occasions managing the financial crisis in 2009 maybe. there's a formal event with limited results and then the side meetings, the bilateral meetings about iran and then president biden achieved a lot. you went through the list already. those are positive, tangible achieve. s. they're not enough and what we want but moving forward. my colleague here at stanford was a secretary of state for ronald reagan and he compared diplomacy to gardening. you have to work it. pull out the weeds. nurture them and move forward. if you think about biden in that sense he looks like a world leader again and it helps that xi jinping is not present on look like this is a meeting that he is the focal point when president jinping chose not to be there. >> maybe liken it to the point we're virtual but together you get the juices flowing and easier to do in person than virtually. here at home it is hard to put aside the domestic agenda. how does that impact how he's seen? >> the question has been can the u.s. get the act together at home? for leaders around the world the first time they engage with president biden this year at the g7 meetings the question is, fine, we have you for now but what happens after that? this is a constant trope where the world looks to the united states and see can it deliver at home as it tries to corral support for the initiatives like climate change? this is where i agree with the ambassador. the world can be tough on the united states on a lot of these things and warts and all what america is displaying to the world is democracy and debate even when it doesn't work and the challenge of course is to try to inch forward as much as it can at home and still be able to sort of fight for the big causes globally. it isn't enough but at least you can fight and that is the theme of american global diplomacy. one last thing. i like the analogy that the ambassador mentioned about gardening and watering the plants and that's true but if you look at what other world leaders would say and people in the global south and the critique to be aired out is that this is much more than gardening. we need much more in terms of financing deployed. again if you're in the global south you look at the amount of money that the united states has been able to sort of deploy when it comes to covid relief. coming to initiatives at home and that's the level of commitment that world leaders have to deploy at the climate summit coming up. >> awaiting to hear from president biden, mike, you mentioned trump. do you think there's a lingering impact of the presidency with potential skepticism? >> yes. ravi is absolutely right. all leaders around the world all want to know is biden the last hoorah of an earlier era and returning to the trump era in three or eight years or not? took there's anything president biden can do about that but working forward, making things happen, pushing the domestic agenda having a positive impact on the way the world perceives. this is the storm before the call and will have big wins coming up soon and demonstrate leadership, too. how does the international affect the domestic? domestic achievements affect the international and those will be big wins for president biden and his administration. but yeah. there's always the lingering how long is he going to be around? you have to try to put wins on the board now for momentum for the future. >> all right. ambassador, ravi, thank you so much for being with us. as we await the news conference, want to go to the next stop on the president's agenda, glascow. tackling how to keep temperatures from rising. negotiations will begin tomorrow morning lasting for two week just the president will be there until tuesday. let's bring in josh letter marn from scotland and christie goldfiss. josh, we just heard from the two panel guests there really how important climate change action is, how much needs to be done. what are you expecting in terms of potential accomplishments? >> reporter: a focus is on the pace of the countries pledging to make. a lot of countries made promises in the run-up to cop. the u.s. said it will cut emissions in half at least 50% by 2050. you have countries like china saying they'll do that by 2060. climate expets say that's not good enough. to say we'll do something in two to three decades doesn't keep the hope alive to be able to reach the goal to limit climate change because by the end of this decade we will be passed that tipping point. the question is whether the world leaders can take action now. what they will do by the end of the decade? listen to what secretary of state blinken said about that today. >> we are seeing every sung l day storms, droughts, that have been exacerbated by climate change. conflict, refugees driven by climate change. fights over resources. i think there's a much greater consciousness of that. >> reporter: i hate to say it but some news heading into this glascow summit is fairly pessimistic. some major holdouts, countries that really have been looked at as needing to step up to the plate have not yet done so including china. lot of attention on whether china would move up the goals because the chinese saying we're still developing and building. we'll peak emissions by 2030 and will continue to increase the emissions throughout the rest of this decade. president biden, prime minister johnson wanted china to say, no, we'll do that sooner. they declined. skepticism of whether the countries are making the changes to avert the changes. >> we see secretary of state blinken there in the room awaiting president biden's conference. building on what josh said, look at what's at stake here. global citizen said the planet rises by 2 degrees fahrenheit. the droughts will double in length. 700 million people will be displaced. feels like an issue we put off. what needs to happen now to stave off the dire predictions? >> congress needs to get building this week which is what we're hoping they will do and we think they're serious to move on that? as a country we need to take bold action in this decade so that we can lead in all the difrt areas of technology and competition to set up the other countries to follow us. but the united states really is running out of time and glascow coming at this particular moment as the congress is really debating more than half a trillion dollars in climate action, the biggest move we have seen on climate ever so that's the type, the scale of action that needs to happen now to address the issues you laid out. >> josh, you wrote an article saying biden is going into cop26 with a hand tied behind his back and partially because the build back better agenda isn't passed and climate change action is a pillar. but it's not a signed bill. >> yeah. that's right. and this skepticism that the u.s. is really going to do what it says on climate is baked in. the countries really now have been watching u.s. commitment seesaw as the power shifted in washington. these delegates who are here in scotland remember back to the initial framework that the u.n. struck where u.s. president george h.w. bush wouldn't agree until it was voluntary. and then even over obama getting credit on the world stage for actions on climate the clean power plan never went into effect and then donald trump that pulled the u.s. out of the deal and the countries want to see what the u.s. is going to put on paper. they follow the back and forth in washington as closely as we are and see this is not a done deal and president biden can't get all of his party 100% on board much less the republicans and want to know when the u.s. asks them to step up on emission cutting and to put up a pretty penny to help with adaption and that's where the biden administration is struggling to prove they'll be able to do this. not only through the legislation and the 555 billion but through executive action they hope to be able to take and has to go through the courts. they hope that states will the ep up and corporations will step up with money. but whether president biden can credibly make that argument could go a long ways to determine whether the summit is a success. >> thank you for joining us. we have watching right now that live shot in rome. we'll take a quick break and be back right after this. ...the itching ...the burning. the stinging. my skin was no longer mine. my psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen... painful. emerge tremfyant™. with tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... ...can uncover clearer skin and improve symptoms at 16 weeks. tremfya® is the only medication of its kind also approved for adults with 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leadership to help bring the world together and solve some big problems. i found the one on one engagements never feels -- never ceases to amaze me when you look at someone straight in it eye. they know me. i know them. i want to thank the italian people for the hospitality and congratulate prime minister draghi. he did one heck of a job leading the g20 through a difficult year. many in the pandemic driving a broad based sustainable economic recovery. i believe we made tangible progress on the issues and in part because of the commitment that the united states brought to the table. for example, i'm proud that the g20 endosed the global minimum tax and the united states has been driving over a year. building momentum up to this achievement. this is a win for all our countries. instead of nations competing to attract investment by bottoming out corporate tax rates this is a minimum floor of 15% for them to pay the fair share no matter where they're headquartered and establishing a fund to draw on to help prevent if necessary and respond to the next pandemic. yesterday together with prime minister johnson and merkel and president macron we came together to reiterate the belief that diplomacy is the way to prevent iran to get a nuclear weapon and how to get iran to resume serious negotiations. even here in rome, been to cushioned on the issues that affect workers and families at home. i finished meeting with a coalition on the supply chain backlogs that the world is dealing with and we face at home and how to make sure we have access to the products we need from shoes to furniture to others. and the build back better framework which is god willing voted on as early as sometime this coming week includes for the first time ever several billions of dollars to strengthen the supply chains and give workers a little bit of breathing room and will make it easier to afford everything from child care while at work for their kids. two years of free preschool and finally today i was proud to announce together with the close eu partners another critical win for american workers and a climate agenda. the united states and the european union will negotiate a first trade agreement based on the carbon in a product negotiating the steel and aluminum tariffs in place. we had strong support of the u.s. steelworkers at home. i want to thank tom con way. the deal will remove a point of significant tension with the friends in the european union and reflects the false idea we cannot support american work ores while tackling crisis at the same time. we're talking about a lot of cop26 but we know tackling the climate crisis is all hands on deck effort. i'm taking some questions and starting with ap zeke miller. do you have a question? i didn't recognize you with a mask on. i apologize. >> thank you, mr. president. here in rome you tried to showcase that america is back but back at home the poll numbers have fallen. your party's nominee for governor in virginia is facing a tougher than expected race. we're one year since the election. what -- you have done a lot in the year in office to try to turn the page only the last administration and seen how presidents turn the page quickly and why should the world believe that when you say america is back that it is here to stay. >> the way they reacted. you saw it. everyone sought me out. what happened here is very simple. you know if you are honest. you are honest. i didn't mean to imply you wmpbt. we got significant support here. we are the -- the united states of america is most critical part of this agenda and we did it. by the way, look. the polls are going to go up and down and up and down. they were high early and medium and back up and now low. that's not why i ran. i didn't run to determine how well i will do in the polls but to follow through on what i said i would do as president of the united states. i said that i would make sure that we were in a position where we dealt with climate change, moved in a direction that's significantly improved the prospects of american workers to have good jobs and good pay and dealt with the crisis that was caused by covid. we have done all of those. we continue to do them and will see what will happen. i'm not running because of the polls. next question from jeff mason at reuters. >> a question on climate and energy. can the world and others be confident that you will be able to follow or do -- make good on the promises on climate change that you have made at glascow without a vote having taken place on your bill and on the same topic some ngos say that the g20 commitments are underwhelming. how do you respond? >> i'll answer both questions. number one, i believe we will pass my build back better plan and i believe we'll pass the infrastructure bill. combined they have $900 billion in climate resistance and dealing with climate and resilience. it's the largest investment in the history of the world and it will pass in my view. we'll see. we'll see. you all believed it wouldn't happen and you always seem amazed when it is alive again. i believe we'll see by the end of next week at home that it's passed. with regard to -- by the way, the infrastructure bill delivers a lot of things in terms of everything from tax credits for electric vehicles to making sure we invest literally billions of dollars in everything from highways, roads, bridges, public transit, airports, et cetera. the disappointment is the fact that russia and including not only russia but china basically didn't show up in terms of commitments with dealing with climate change. i found it disappointing myself. but what we did do is pass a number of things to end the subsidies of coal and made commitments to bring to the g20 and i think as that old trait saying goes the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. it will require us to continue to focus on what china and russia and saudi arabia is not doing. >> you also met with energy consumers about supply. what steps are considering taking if opec plus does not raise supply and do you see irony to push production and going to cop26 urges people to reduce emissions? >> the idea of being able to move to renewable energy overnight and from this moment on not use oil or gas or hydrogen is just not rational. certain things we can wipe out. we should be moving to get rid of as adopted here my proposal to end methane but it does seem inconsistent and no one is anticipated that this year to be in a position or next year not using oil or gas, not engaged in fossil fuels. we stop subsidizing them and make a significant change and just makes the argument to move to wind and solar but the idea that we're going to end and somehow -- it does on the surface going to cop to deal with renewable energy. why are you making it look harder for us. it is a legtd mat question. i think that if anybody thinks about it no one thought that tomorrow -- for example, it is going to take us between now and 2030 to have half the vehicles in america electric so the idea not needing gasoline for automobiles is not realistic but by 2050 zero emissions. jim tanker of "the new york times"? >> thank you so much. i'd like to follow up on jeff's question and then supply chains. on the question of oil prices economists say when you raise the price people consume less. so why not allow people to pay more for gasoline to consume fewer fossil fuels and emit less? >> they have to get to work and get the kids to school. that's the reason why. you know that. that's the reason. the alternative to the automobile is not realistic. it is not going to happen. it wasn't intended to happen. by the way, when the cost of a gallon of gasoline is above 300 -- 300? $3.35 it is a profound impact on working class families so i don't see inconsistent with that but i think the idea that russia and saudi arabia and other major producers are not going to pump more oil so people have xwas lean to get to and from work for example is not right. but -- what we're considering doing i'm reluctant to say. >> one of the obviously big problems in the united states for supply chains is not having enough workers. workers have not returned to the labor force. why? >> they move from one job to another. that's a reason why. people don't want to continue to do the job they did before making 7, 8, 9 bucks an hour. a lot of the truck drivers are not unionized. working like hell and not paid a whole lot and you see the desire of people to change professions and do more and take care of the families. worker pay has gone up and we have employed 6 million people since i got elected. employment is up. the economy is in spite of this still growing. you have a significant number of -- i think close to 60 major economists acknowledging that what will happen is see continued economic growth under our proposals. a total of 14 -- i think it was 14 -- economists in economics saying this is going to -- what i propose reduces the inflation. et cetera. there's a lot going on. look. i know you are tired of hearing me say this. this is an inflection point of history. so much is changing. how they resettle depends on the judgments we make and whether or not the united states leads the world in a direction to increase the circumstances for a higher standard of workers here and abroad and making sure that people have an opportunity. have a little breathing room. i meant what i said when i ran. the desire the to build the economy out and that's in process of happening but in the meantime there's enormous changes as a consequence of covid on the supply chains. why do we have trouble? the factories and operations that produced material that we need in everything from shoes to dealing with computer chips are out sick. they're not working. so it is changing. the united states has to stay ahead of the curve and introduced the infrastructure bill and the build back better initiative. "washington post," sung min kim. i'm sorry. i didn't see you. >> thank you, mr. president. on iran, how will you determine whether the iranians are serious to rejoin the nuclear talks? what cost are you prepared to impose on iran if it carries out attacks against the united states like drone strikes against forces in saudi arabia? >> there's two issues. that's why i had the meetings with colleagues here in rome who are part of the original six nations to get together to say we should negotiate a change which i found that i think we're continuing to suffer from the very bad judgments that president trump made in pulling out of the jcpoa. so that's one issue. that issue will depend on whether and how that gets resolved depends on their action and the willingness of our friends to stick with us for a price to pay economically if they fail to come back. with regard to the issue to respond to actions taken by them against the interest of the united states whether they eefr drone strikes or anything else is to respond and continue to respond. abc, cecilia vega. hard to see you guys with the masks on. i apologize. >> and making my glasses fog up. i apologize. thank you, sir. you mentioned the incentives. you do have a number of incentives but no punitive measures and many experts believe you have to have the stick with the carrot to get to your goal to reduce emissions by 2030 by 50%. can you say to the world that you will still meet that goal? >> yes. i can. because what we're proposing and what we have initiated is everything from getting the automobile makers to commit to going all electric. number one. getting the unions to agree to do that. making sure we have the investment in battery technology that requires us to have the ability to generate electric buses, electric transportation grids. making sure that we are dealing with everything from -- let me go through some of these. that we have tax credits for -- of $320 billion for dealing with alternatives, tax credit for moving on solar panels, wind and winterizing the properties. i don't think you need any punitive action to get people to step up and do those things. there's no indication that's the case at all. with regard to -- there's a total of $555 billion in climate and i'm just checking the numbers to make sure i'm right and climate investment for resilience and in the interest of the industry to see to it to move to making sure that we have the resilience to be able when those towers come down and the lines hit the ground and burning large swaths of the "the washington post" -- west to bury the lines. >> a follow-up if i may. on the meeting with pope francis, the more than 50 million catholics at home seeing something play out that's never happened before. the split in the conservative of the catholic church to deny you the communion. for the catholics back home what did it mean for you to hear pope francis in the wake of this debate call you a good catholic? did what he tell you put this debate to rest? >> i'm not going to -- a lot of this is personal. pope francis has become a -- i don't want to exaggerate it. it's become a -- someone who provided great solace for my family when my son died. he has in my view -- has always been this debate in the catholic church going back to pope john xxiii that talk about how we reach out and embrace people with differences. if you notice what the pope said when it was asked when he first got elected to the pope he said whom i am to judge? this is a man of great empathy. he is a man who understands that part of his christianity is to reach out and to forgive. and so, i just find my relationship with him one that i personally take great solace in. he is a really truly genuine decent man. i'll end by saying that, you know, there are a lot of people -- many of you, not putting you in this position but many of you in the press that expressed sympathy and empathy when i lost a real part of my soul. when i lost my beau, my son. and i -- my family will never forget my extended family because when it was a matter of days since my son passed away and pope francis came to the united states to visit with the -- not only with president obama but with the catholic church here and i was asked if i would accompany him to philadelphia to the seminary. anyway, and i did but it was the wounds were still raw of the loss of the family. i had my extended family. they're always around. my grandchildren, my children, wife and daughters-in-law and before he left the pope asked whether or not he could meet with my family. and we met in a hangar at the philadelphia airport. and he came in and he talked to my family for a considerable amount of time. ten, 15 minutes about my son beau. and he didn't just generically talk about him. he knew about him. he knew what he did. he knew who he was. he knew he went to school and what a man he was. and it had such a cathartic impact on his children and my wife and our family that it -- it meant a great deal. and as i meant what i said. i didn't realize you all were able to film when i gave him a command coin. and i meant what i said. this is a man who is someone who is looking to establish peace and decency and honor. not just in the catholic church but just generically. when i won he called me to tell me how much he appreciated the fact to focus on the poor and the needs of people in trouble and so i just, again, i don't want to talk more about it because so much the personal but he is everything i learned about catholicism from the time of a kid from grade school to high school and i have great respect for people who have ore religious views but he is just a fine, decent, honorable man. we keep in touch. i thank you all very, very much for your patience. thank you. >> mr. president? >> mr. president? >> all right. we are watching the president biden there exit the stage in rome. talking about g20, cop26, ending on a personal matter. his relationship there with the pope. i want to bring back in right now a couple of guests. want to talk to ravi of foreign policy magazine and also former ambassador michael mcfall. mike, first, i want you to react coming out of that. we heard a question about not only the president's relationship with the pope but the controversy back at home with conservatives saying the president shouldn't take the sacrament and found the solace in talking to the pope. he said a parent of his soul left him? what's your reaction? >> it was very moving. he could see that he was moved himself. and this is -- his favorite is very personal to him. we all know this. it's an important part of his life. i traveled with vice president biden one time on ash wednesday to moscow. we got to the hotel about 10:00 at night and insisted to have mass that night and had a local priest there. and there were no cameras there. it was for him. so to hear him talk that way i remembered that way traveling with him and i know from his team, talking to individuals close to him that it does -- it is painful this politicization of his faith and people denying him that he doesn't think was correct. i think it was right to say this is personal and not make it more political. quite brilliant. >> some of the things the president said in the beginning essentially this is the power of america showing up. no substitute for face to face meetings. they know me. i know them. but really there was a theme among the reporters' questions saying how can the world trust you when, for example, the domestic agenda isn't passed yet? it contains monumental action but the ink is not really even written yet let alone dry. how do you feel the president fielded those questions? >> he did pretty well. just following on from the ambassador's comments a way to build trust and partnerships is to show empathy and that moment speaking about the relationship with the pope the real empathy displayed a and that's something that people will take to heart as the words of someone that means what he says and that sincerity is apparent but on the point of whether other world leaders can trust america i think they will look and say he is trying and biden said he is not sure whether the build back better plans will pass. he thinks they will. he is optimistic. the jury is out. but at the very least one can say the attempt at trying. america showing up. this is a real sea change from the way in which america is represented around the world. i think of that there can be very little doubt. >> we talked about the confidence on the global stage. what about the confidence here at home? i found it interesting that the president was on one hand exuding confidence to pass build back better and infrastructure plan and then said maybe it won't. talk about necessarily the confidence that americans should take from that speech. >> he doesn't believe that line. that's to lower expectations so we all see this big victory. i think that -- just my view. >> you speak politics better than i do. >> he wants to have a win and i think he is going to have a win and speaking with confidence about that. i'll be shocked if the two bills don't go through. i don't know when and maybe takes longer and most certainly people will be disappointed and lots of interest groups will be disappointed and voters will be disappointed with what's not in the bills but i think he understands it is the end game and would have liked to have it before the trip and better to go in the meetings chocking up the wins, especially when he can say he used the number in the remarks today. i don't know how he got to that number but $900 billion in spending to reduce climate change is historic. it will happen. i think that will again add confidence around the world that this is a president who can get things done on the homefront. >> michael, ravi, thank you. we'll have much more coverage of the president's news conference right after the break. where does it go? 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