The u. S. Announced that Submarine Deal that the french called a stab in the back. The president hopes to arrive in europe with a victory on his infrastructure and social spending agenda. Instead, the struggle continues to get it past the finish line. And that plays into election day, now just four days away. Weve got a look at how women voters will be crucial to the outcome of the virginia governors race. Also this hour, the person in charge of weapons on the set where alec baldwin shot and killed a cinematographer breaking her silence this morning. And the Biden Administration may pay millions of dollars those migrant families who were separated at the border during the trump administration. Very busy friday. And this morning, the high stakes on capitol hill after President Biden told House Democrats that, according to one person who was in the meeting, quote, i dont think its hyperbole to say that the house and Senate Majorities and my presidency will be determined by what happens in the next week. One day after unveiling the framework of a bill aimed at reshaping the social safety net, with the hope that it would trigger a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill, the fate of the president s agenda is still up in the air. While progressive lawmakers have endorsed that framework, theyre holding out for assurances it has the votes to pass. Joining us to start off our coverage this hour, nbc news capitol hill correspondent, ali vitali, New York Times political reporter, jeremy peters, and eugene daniels, Politico White House reporter and playbook coauthor, as well as an msnbc political contributor. Good to see all of you this morning. So, ali, the house and senate are out of session. Theyre not going to be back until next week. So what are we expecting moving forward here . Reporter yeah, chris, some very empty halls of congress around me as everyone has cleared out for the weekend. But the key players are still at work, having these negotiations. As much of the framework was released yesterday morning, whats the problem here and why they havent been able to move forward is the fact that theres no firm consensus around it. On the Progressive House Side of this, youve seen people led by pramila jayapal, the head of the house progressive caucus, saying that her caucus endorses the framework, but needs more assurances, specifically from the senate side. Yesterday, many of us up here in the Capitol Hill Press Corps tried to pin down these senators. Congresswoman jayapal met with one of them, senator kyrsten sinema. She said that meeting was good and productive, but clearly when people are using words like productive and negotiating in good faith, thats not the sign of a bill that is signed, sealed, and ready to be delivered. That sort of leads them to next week. All of the tables that have been put down on this, as moments where these bills must be passed by, all the timelines are artificial. Yes, it would have been nice to have this as a bill that was passed before the president landed in rome. That was speaker pelosis initial goal yesterday, after he left her caucus for that morning meeting. Of course, that wasnt able to happen, because progressives would have tanked that bipartisan infrastructure bill. They also would have liked to see something passed before tuesdays virginia governors race. That doesnt look like its going to happen. All of the timetables, though, were artificial, and what they did last night before leaving town is they gave themselves a little bit more Breathing Room to get this done. Passing the Surface Transportation Bill that allowed Highway Funding to continue. They kicked that can until december 3rd, which is very much looking like its going to be a busy day here, which is also the day that Government Funding runs out, that the debt limit runs out. At the same time, i talked to one congresswoman yesterday who said shes got good vibes for november. She thinks this will wrap up at some point before the end of the month. Well, wrap up at some time before the end of the month, which of course puts us after Terry Mcauliffe is trying to get the governors seat. Look, the president delayed the start of his trip because he wanted to secure a victory that he could show off, because Terry Mcauliffe is up for election on tuesday. Where does this leave us . I mean, right now, i think we have this framework i dont think the white house really, really thought that this was going to completely figure itself out, be completely hashed out, because they knew progressives were still balking, knew that progressives didnt fully trust and still dont trust that the Reconciliation Framework that turned into a bill is going sty that way, even though theyve endorsed it and said, were okay with this. So that framework is something that the president seems hopeful to take over and say, you know, democracy is messy. Sausage making is messy and hard, as jen psaki always puts it, and try to put a positive spin on this, right . We saw the white house and the administration sending out things to their allies yesterday, talking points, saying, you know, the president is working. He is working on compromise. He is working on consensus. And that is what he promised to do. So theyre trying to put that spin on it. But like ali laid out, there are still so many things that need to be worked out. They will get this done at some point, right . Some sometime this month. And its hilarious when theyre talking about vibes. Vibes are one thing, but getting everybody on the same page is something completely different. But theyre going to need to make sure what they do after they make this sign. This is the most important thing not for Terry Mcauliffe in the virginia race and not for President Bidens trip over to europe, but for his presidency and those majorities is the logistics of the rollout of whatever ends up being in this final bill and also up for that infrastructure bill. Because if they can convince the American People that, you know, ignore the messiness, ignore the back and forth, the lack of trust that was exposed during this process, but look at what weve done for you. These are the things look at your roads and bridges. Look at what we did for Climate Change mitigation. That changes things a little bit. And whether voters care next november how messy this process was, if theyre getting things that were in this bill, even though theres a lack of paid family leave, which a lot of folks wanted and still want, that is something that theyre going to that theyre thinking of the long game in that way. So theres a reality here about the president s political vulnerability, jeremy, as you well know. His poll numbers have been down. They havent shown any sign of improvement. Is the message here, essentially, Terry Mcauliffe, youre on your own. Mr. President , youre going to have to figure out how to make nice with europe leaders, in spite of this, without having a victory to show. Whats your take on where things stand right now . Well, biden leaves the country now at a moment of tremendous consequence for not just his presidency, his domestic agenda, but for any hope the Democratic Party has of holding on to control of the House Of Representatives in next years midterm elections. This was always going to be a very difficult climate politically for the Democratic Party, chris, just given the historical nature of the party in power being down and out in the minds of voters, in an off year. But you also have an incredibly tight majority, because democrats lost seats in the 2020 election. And that wasnt expected. So, the issue theyre confronting, that the president will have to confront when he gets back, that the democrats in congress will have to confront when they return to capitol hill is this idea thats been simmering in both parties. And thats that the debate on capitol hill right now is not in sync with where most voters are. Most voters dont understand whats in these bills. But more importantly, they dont think that Infrastructure Spending and social programs, as important as they are, you know, as significant issues as these are, are the priority. I mean, most people are focused on their bottom line. Their pocketbooks. How is the country going to recover from the pandemic . Whats going on with the economy, inflation, Supply Chain Tightening that has really created a lot of uncertainty over the upcoming holiday season. Those are the front of mind issues from voters. And what weve seen in the past is, obama saw this, is that if you are on the wrong subject, voters will punish your party for that in elections. And thats what happened in 2010 with the Democratic Party and a lot of democrats fear that could happen again next year. Yeah, thats the concern. Jeremy peters, ali vitali, gene daniels, thanks to all of you. Joining us now to continue the conversation is new York Democratic congressman, richie torres. Hes a member of the congressional caucus. The American People are confused. Theyve heard, this is in, this is out. They dont really know whats going on here. What they know is that its not getting done. Do you know whats in these bills . Are you ready to vote . Well, im more optimistic than ever that were going to pass these two bills. And once the build back better act becomes law, every 3 and 4yearold will have access to prek. So why not have done it yesterday . Why not have started it yesterday, if you feel confident its going to pass, are you confident about whats in it . Do we know where this stand . Reporter well, the president came to us yesterday and announced that he has a framework, that hes confidence will pass both the senate and the house. So we have to flush it out with legislative language, but im hopeful that in the weeks to come, were going to pass both that bipartisan infrastructure framework and the build back better act. Do you understand the conversation . And again, this is what jeremy was talking to, that a lot of the American People feel, you know, this morning, the white house Coms Director went on morning joe and said, you know, praise pramila jayapal, the progressive caucus leader saying, look, she had great things to say about where she stands, about whats in it. And yet, if youre praising it, does that not assume that you know whats in it and youre ready to vote on it . I mean, what do you say to voters who say, this is more of the same Old Washington that the democrats were elected to fix . We are going to get the job done. Right . Were on the verge of making history. And in the long arc of history, no one is going to remember the messy process. People will remember the end product. No one remembers the process that led to fdrs new deal or lbjs great society. People remember medicare, Social Security, and i guarantee once we pass the build back better act, people will remember the child tax credit, home care, investments in fighting Climate Change, affordable housing. Each of these achievements is transformative on its own, but the sum total is monumental. Its historic. Knowing that this is going to get done because thats what youre telling me you feel very confident that its going to get done. So, if, indeed, that is true, did you have any hesitation, did any of your fellow Caucus Members have any hesitation about waiting on this, given the election thats happening in Virginia On Tuesday and given the fact that the president is in europe right now with some pretty tough conversations coming up and would like to have a little wind at his back. The position of the progressive caucus from day one has been to guarantee the passage of both bills. The progressive caucus trusts the president , but the position has been trust but verify, and the best form of verification is an actual vote on the build back better act in the senate. An actual vote in the senate will guarantee the passage of both bills. So whats going to have to happen between now and wherever that vote happens . You know, ali vitali saying theyre hoping to get it done by the end of the month. Whats going to have to happen for you to say, im comfortable now, for members of the caucus to say, im comfortable now and were going to vote. When does that happen . I think once we translate the framework into legislation and once the Senate Passes it, the house is prepared to pass both bills. That could happen in a matter of weeks. Do you have in Line In The Sand . Is there something that if its not in there, that you would have a really hard time with it . I can vote for both bills in their present form. And i feel the build back better act should not be compared to the ideal. It should be judged by its own terms. And by that standard, its one of the most transformative pieces of legislation in the history of the United States. Congressman richie torres, if you were a betting man, when do you think this bill happens . Before thanksgiving. So well have much to be grateful for this. Thank you. Appreciate your time. And its time now for a look at the headlines out of the west coast. The armorer on the set of rust is breaking her silence after last weeks fatal shooting. In a Statement Released by her attorneys, Hanna Gutierrez reid expressed her condolences and defended her actions, but she says her superiors cut corners on gun safety. Joining me now is nbcs emilie ikeda, who has been following this for us. What more can you tell us about what the armorer is saying here. Reporter like you said, this is the first time were hearing from the armorer since the deadly shooting on the set of the production of rust. Her lawyer releasing a lengthy statement saying that Hanna Gutierrez reid had no idea where live ammunition came from. She said it was extremely difficult for her to focus, because she was hired for two positions on the film. She said she and the prop master gained control over the guns and she never witnessed anyone shoot live rounds with these guns nor would she permit that. They were locked up every night and at lunch. Theres no way a single one of them was unaccounted for or being shot by crew members. Hannah still to this day has never had an accidental discharge. That according to her attorneys. Investigators say hundreds of rounds of ammunition were recovered from the set, including suspected live rounds. The santa fe Sheriffs Office told nbc news the investigation right now is largely focused on reid and the assistant director. The two people who handled the gun before giving it to alec baldwin with a real bullet inside. Chris . Lets talk a little bit about something that we just touched on, and is certainly on the president s plate. Logjams, ships off the coast of california, which are not only causing logistics issues, but environmental issues. As Supply Chain Issues and port backlog continue, toxic pollutants are expected to worsen for some california communities. For example, in march, there were about 25 carrier ships idling and Research Shows that led to a spike in pollutants, equal to exhaust emissions from 50,000 trucks every day. Well, now were talking about four times that number of Container Ships at nearby ports, sounding the alarm for some environmental scientists. The ships release whats called particulate matter, which can cause cardiovascular issues like Heart Attacks and strokes. They tell the epa theyre working to reduce diesel pollution. And i know you have a followup for us on those innout locations that closed in l. A. County. Reporter you can expect longer drivethrough lines at innout as the familyowned business shuts down its five Contra Costa County locations for indoor dining. Thats according to local news reports. Innout says it refuses to be the Vaccination Police and had two outposts closed down by Health Officials already for ignoring local mandates and not checking indoor diners vaccination status. Its a hot topic. Weve seen growing protests throughout the week. Ill bet. Innout very popular out there. Thank you, emilie, appreciate it. Were keeping our eyes on rome right now. In fact, i think we have live pictures of President Biden, who is going into meetings with italys president and prime minister. Running a little bit behind schedule. Were waiting for that big meeting when he sits down with frances president for the First Time Since that breach over a Submarine Deal. 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What is the white house walking into this meeting in a little bit with Emmanuel Macron . Where do things stand with france right now . Reporter well, there is work to do for President Biden, trying to repair a relationship that is critically important to the United States. France is the oldest ally and the United States in this instance really did not understand some of the mess it created with a real diplomatic snag here. And that goes back to a deal the u. S. Set up with the United States, the united kingdom, and australia, for Nuclear Submarines to be deployed in the water around australia and that wouldnt seem to be a problem on its face, except that france had its own deal with australia and this cost france roughly 60 billion in defense contracts. And they didnt know at the time, and were really stung by this. And the white house acknowledges that it could have been handled better and there are real frayed feelings about this. That along with france having a different view about the u. S. exit from afghanistan. And just a sense of this not having been handled in a way that would be respectful of france, its own need to have that kind of a partnership with australia, the kind of respect that they want, and a lot of work has been done, white house officials say, in the weeks and months since this sort of blew up between the two countries, to try to repair the damage. Phone calls, a visit from the president S National Security adviser in person, the Vice President will go to france next month, and now today, an important chance before the g20 begins for President Biden and president macron to meet and be able to move on to the areas they have common interests and common values. This is an important test for a president who has a lot on the line, after everything weve been talking about, whats been happening back home with his own domestic agenda. This is where the Foreign Policy piece of this trip is a bit thorny. Thats also true in a much smaller way with the meetings that hes having from officials from italy, where hes at the residence now for the italian prime minister, earlier meeting with the president of italy. Some tensions and agreements about the u. S. Withdrawal from afghanistan there. Not as big a dustup, but there are things where the u. S. President has a pit of work to do. And thats something that were seeing play out before the g20 even gets underway, chris. Kelly odonnell just named senior white house correspondent. And as somebody who worked by your side in washington for three years, so well deserved. Great to see you, kelly. Congratulations. Thank you for that. I want to bring in david ignatius, foreign columnist and Associate Editor at the Washington Post and an msnbc contributor. Always great to see you, david. So youve got meetings with the pope, with macron, g20, cop26. Big trip, jampacked for this president. But a very different environment than previous trips. A lot more attention directed at the u. S. Set the scene for us, as you see it. I think you could give us a headline for this trip. Is america back again . The theme of the president s quite successful trip to europe in june was america is back. America was participating in all the multilateral forums that President Trump had eschewed. There was a feeling after that trip that biden was really delivering on his promise of a different Foreign Policy. And then came a series of real difficulties, the withdrawal from afghanistan was chaotic, our european allies thought they werent being consulted. And then this really sharp reach with france, a traditional ally over the Submarine Deal that we had done in secret with australia, replacing the french. The Biden Administration has worked very hard to try to repair that damage. As i understand, from my french contacts, the french wanted three things. They wanted american help for french efforts in africa to deal with Terrorist Groups there. Thats been done. They wanted american support for french independent Defense Efforts in europe. Independent additional to nato. That is being done. And they wanted signals that france would genuinely be a partner in america, efforts to deal with china, competition in the indopacific and also that is being done, as officials talk in detail how to draw france into their efforts. I think theyve worked hard on this. Well just have to see over the next days whether biden is really back. Whether hes seen as representing a strong and United America or whether european doubts continue. What are you going to be watching for to give you that answer . Ill be watching, as always, at these gatherings, the body language. Im going to be watching the communique. I think biden will go to the glasgow summit conference, which begins on sunday, with a very strong hand, assuming that he can get the progress hes seeking and finalizing his budget deal. To go with a commitment of 555 billion in Climate Change spending to a conference where nobody has got anywhere close to that in terms of commitments will be significant. So the white house spin machine will be working overtime on this trip to try to convey some impressions. We need to really make sure that the European Reaction is genuine and that theyre solving the problems that theyve had in the months since this successful june visit. If its perceived whether or not theres a vote, which it certainly doesnt look like, but if its perceived that the United States is going to take this huge, unprecedented step towards Climate Change, in reality, how much mjo does that give the president in trying to put pressure on other countries to do more, to address this global crisis. So i think the pressure really comes from global expectations, that the u. S. Has been hectaring countries to increase their commitments. Secretary kerry, the climate envoy, has traveled nonstop the last few months trying to make that case. I think if theres a successful cop summit with the United States having this major commitment, what it does is Increase Pressure at home in these countries. Ive listened so chinese climate activities talk over the last week about their movement in china to bring greater commitment to reduce Carbon Dioxide emissions. Thats the kind of pressure thats going to change things for xi jinping. Its really not american demands and assistance or the level of our spending. Its the pressure they feel at home and the pressure they feel to be International Citizens in an acceptable way. David ignatius, always great to see you. Thank you so much for being on the show. 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Theres a new fox news poll that gives Republican Glenn Youngkin an eightpoint lead over former democratic governor Terry Mcauliffe among likely voters in a state that joe biden won by ten points. Right now, youngkin is meeting with voters in charlottesville, hoping to build on that momentum. Dave wasserman of the cook political reporter tweeted this. Do i think its possible youngkin wins by eight . Sure. The last time the Political Climate was bad for democrats, Bob Mcdonnell won by 17 points, a year after barack obama carried virginia by eight points. Do i think its likely . No. Nbc news correspondent Heidi Przybyla shot down with some women voters who will be key to the outcome of this race and joins us from richmond, virginia. So, heidi, every vote counts, but again, its women, suburban women, who are going to be critical here. What are they telling you about how theyre feeling right now about this race . Reporter yeah, chris, suburban women here in virginia really vaulted democrats to power in 2017, and that portended the midterms and even in some ways the 2020 election. But someone named trump is not on the ballot here, chris. And so the question is now that this is no longer seen as a referendum for many of these women, how are they feeling . We sat down with a Broad Spectrum of women, including women on both sides of the aisle and heres what they had to say about this neck and neck race. I think hes a desperate president trying to get a whole bunch of democrats willing to follow him over the political cliff. Ive heard this term, framework. And ive seen a little of it. I know this. Theyre going to try to crush small business. And theyre making tax policy on the basis of class warfare. Reporter so, chris, heres what we have. We have numbers and we have history. And the numbers are telling us that republicans are just more enthusiastic. We have history, which tells us that this state likes to elect members of the opposing party. However, democrats do have the Voter Registration advantage here, and that is growing, particularly in northern virginia. Its about 450,000 voter difference. And just because women say theyre fatigued doesnt mean that they wont vote. In fact, a lot of the democrats ive talked to said, yeah, were tired, were worn down, but were still going to vote. That was actually the one thing that women on both sides of the agreed on, chris. Is that after a year of virtual schooling, after a year of shouldering most of the child care burden, theyre just plum tired. I think a lot of people around the country, not just in virginia, feel that way. Sorry about the problem with the tape, heidi. Thank you. We appreciate it. You have summarized it very well. Heidi przybyla in virginia for us. We want to go back now to that breaking news from capitol hill, that Illinois Republican congressman Adam Kinzinger has Just Announced that hes retiring at the end of this term. Of course, hes been a republican critic, especially of former president donald trump. One of two republican members of the Committee Investigating the January 6th Insurrection at the capitol. Nbc news capitol hill Correspondent Ali Vitali is back with us from capitol hill. So this is somebody who not only has been at odds with members of his own party, but was facing some pretty nasty realities with redistricting. What are you hearing about kinzingers decision . Reporter yeah, chris, this is an explanation of both politics in a washington sense, in the posttrump era, in the Republican Party, but its also a conversation about the realities on the ground, because of redistricting in illinois. They were going to be losing a congressional seat, Illinois Democrats in charge of this process were likely going to carve up his chicago district. Thats going to be part of the reason. But its hard not to see this as kinzinger lacking a home in the Republican Party as it exists right now in the shadow of former president donald trump. You mentioned some of the things on his resume, on the january 6th committee, one of two republicans who are there. Hes alongside Fellow Trump Detractor liz cheney who is facing her own tough reelection. For kinzinger, though, he said in this lengthy video about five minutes long that he just released on twitter, he derided the tribalism in washington, while also denouncing a government that doesnt work. And saying that there are leaders here who wont lead the party in this time where they do need to make some tough decisions about the future of republicanism is. He also said, though, that as he did when he came to congress, he said that he would know when its time to leave. Clearly now on this friday, announcing that this is the moment for him. He has tried to play in electoral politics outside of the hill. He has a pac that has endorsed other candidates that are not exalt in the trump mold. But at the same time, the thing you and i know to be true here, is that this is a Republican Party in the mold of donald trump. Hes someone who will likely be on the ballot again in the upcoming president ial election, or at least thats something that he continues to hint on and his advisers continue to talk about. He is the leader of this party. He might not be in washington, but thats just the truth when you look at the way that especially republicans in the house contend with trump. Kinzinger very out of step with them and today announcing that hes going to be one of the republicans retiring from congress. At least one punctuation point on the ongoing question of whether theres room for moderates in washington. Thank you, ali vitali, we appreciate you. Its official now, former new York Governor Andrew Cuomo has been charged with a sex crime. That crime charged in Albany City Court is forcible touching. A class a misdemeanor. Cuomo did intentionally, according to this filing, and for no legitimate purpose, forcefully place his hand under the blouse shirt of the victim and on to her intimate body part. The name of the accuser is redacted in the complaint, while the details are similar to accusations made by brittany camiso. Thats when he put hand under my blouse and cupped my breast over my bra. What exactly is a class a misdemeanor in this context and what happens next . Basically for the governor, its a penalty and a charge that doesnt come with the potential, if convicted, of a lot of jail time. The maximum here would be one year in jail, if he was convicted. His attorney saying that no assault took place, period. And that she says that this is a political prosecution. Its very unlikely that the governor would face a year in jail. Three months probation and some fines are another possibility. Based on some of the state statutes and some of the details likely about the victim, its unlikely that the governor will have to register as a sex offender, again, if convicted. This all goes back to an incident that occurred in december of 2020, according to this charging document, which says that in the late afternoon, between 3 50 and 4 07 p. M. , apparently this alleged forcible touching took place. They say that they were able to get phone records, blackberry p. I. N. Messages, if you were those. They were also able to get swipe information. So from a badge industry, and be able to put all of that together to eventually petition the court, go speak to the court and say, do we have enough probable cause . The court agreed and so they issued a criminal summons for the governor to appear on november 17th at 2 30 p. M. Where hell have to answer to these charges. Shocking given that a little more than a year ago, we were talking about whether he might run for president. Tom winter, i know youll keep us posted on this and there are other jurisdictions that are looking at potential charges as well. Tom winter with that report. Still ahead, the Biden Administration may have to pay millions to former migrants separated by former President Trump. Those details are next. Yourewatching msnbc reports. Was refresh where there is so much new, some say that it cant fit in one ad. I say. Were talking a new allamerican club, delistyle ovenroasted turkey and. Oh, thats the new steak cheese. Oh yeah, i knew that. Thats the one with the new. Seasoning. And that was the new mvp parmesan vinaigrette. Right. Which makes a next level foot. Hold up. The subway logo . Wait im out of time . 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The Biden Administration may soon be paying millions of dollars to migrant families separated at the border under former President Trumps Zero Tolerance policy. We all watched in 2018 as children were kept in cages, taken from their parents, simply because their parents crossed the border illegally with them. Today, more than a thousand families are believed to still be separated. For more on this, i want to bring in Jacob Soboroff whos been following this story from the very beginning for us. So jacob, what triggered this compensation now and do we have a Dollar Figure . Tort cases, chris. Those are lawsuits against the federal government for the treatment of these individuals during that family separation, what they call the zerotolerance policy during the trump years. And remember, Physicians For Human Rights called what those families went through torture. Thats a Nobel Peace Prize winning organization. The American Academy of pediatrics called it governmentsanctioned child abuse. So what the Wall Street Journal has reported and we have confirmed is that there are ongoing negotiations in which the victims could be paid out potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars each. But these are ongoing negotiations. Nothing has been finalized and ultimately, thats going to be a decision thats going to be reached between the Biden Administrations Department Of Justice and the lawyers for the plaintiffs in this that were sed by the trump administration. All of which is an opportunity for us, jacob, to bring folks up to date, to exactly find out how many of those families are still separated. Do we know how many of the kids are out there, first of all . And at this point, after all of this time, is the expectation that reunification is unlikely to happen . Im so glad that you brought that up, chris. Because there are basically two tracks going on here. There are these civil lawsuits against the u. S. Government for financial damages, but theres also the Reuniication Effort thats being run by the Biden Administrations Reunification Task force, headed by michelle brawnier, who was brought in to head up this effort. There are a thousand families, approximately, that remain separated. Around 303 according to the last court filing. The parents of those children havent even been able to be reached by the u. S. Government, because of how shoddy the Record Keeping was during the trump administration. The idea is that the Biden Administration will be able to track down with nongovernmental organizations, Legal Aid Service providers, people on the ground in central america, all of those remaining unidentified family. But when we talk about the trauma, the torture in the words of physicians for human lights, the child abuse in the words of the American Academy for pediatrics, this has been a multiyear ordeal thats still playing out to this day. Thats very active as sort of the resolution of what really was, you know, some folks have said, one of the most shameful factors in modern american history. Money is one thing, but the longterm effects, something altogether different. Jacob, thank you for staying on top of this. We appreciate it. And still ahead, protesing those Vaccine Mandates. First responders in new york with just hours to get a Covid Vaccine or be put on unpaid leave. Youre watching msnbc reports. D leave. Youre watching msnbc reports. Feel stuck with Student Loan Debt . Move to sofiand feel what its like to get your money right. Move your Student Loan Debt to sofi you could save with low rates and no fees. Earn a 500 bonus when you refiand get your money right. This is. With low rates and no fees. This is iowa. We just havent been properly introduced. Say hello to the place where Rolling Hills meets low bills. Where our fields, inside and out, are always growing. And where the fun is just getting started. 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The Natural Immunity does exist, and even before we had vaccines we knew this could be protective against a reinfection. Heres why i still recommend anyone who has had an infection get vaccinated. Number one, we know Natural Immunity is not specifically targeted against all variants. And we know the current vaccines, all three actually hold up against the delta variant, the most immediate threat. Number two, we know that immunity decreases over time. And chris, even if we had the best most easy, simple test that you could check at home to see if you had antibodies, we dont know if that level of antibodies is sufficient to overcome direct exposure, particularly as we head into the winter months. More people are going to be indoors, and we see people lifting Mask Mandates around the country right when we see global cases rising. All three things go together really reinforcing the value of a vaccine and the timing of now being important. And then there are the ongoing questions for some parents about whether to get their kids vaccinated, given that were hoping that theres going to be an approval. News week has a cover, and theres the scared looking child on the front, and a headline, would you give this child a shot . Some doctors have gone on twitter and say they plan to vaccinate their own children. I want to get your reaction to this cover, and what do you say to parents who are making what is an important decision right now . I think its very important just like we did with new york city workers, taking the kind of fear of politics and tactics out of it and looking at the situation at the ground with the facts. We know that there are too many children that are being kept from school because of positive cases. Quarantines. And then we know about 10 of children with covid are having longterm symptoms, and all of this is preventable with a vaccine where the benefits do outweigh the risks. At the end of the day, that cover, i saw that, and its not it just jars me as a mother. I think it relates to any parent who is scared. Doesnt want to harm their child. Think about it this way. What harm could we be doing if we have a safe and effective vaccine that could prevent cases j hospitalizations, and in the worst of circumstances, which we have, death. And i think thats how i present it. I would also remind people, myself included, that we have Vaccine Mandates for so many other vaccines that have also been tested. And weve never had a vaccine where weve had over a billion people receive it and been able to look at whats happening and what were giving children is a reduced dose of that. I still come out on the side of encouraging mandates. I also encourage the conversations even about the scary pictures. Try to remove those and keep it to your child and your situation. We only have seconds left, but i want to get to this. The cdc recommending a fourth booster for some immune compromised people. So how do you figure out if youre one of those folks . Right. Immune compromised. Think of it has the people who needed a third dose. Organ transplants, certain immune conditions. People taking medications. Ask your doctor, but it might be time for the true booster. The third dose was a dose to get the complete series. You need a fourth shot to get the boost that were recommending for all other people as a third shot. Doctor, always great to see you. Thank you. And thats going to wrap up this hour for me. Im chris jansing. Thank you so much for watching. Craig melvin picks up more news right after this quick break. Isk coaching. New workouts. And screening for colon cancer. Yep. The American Cancer Society recommends screening starting at age 45, instead of 50, since colon cancer is increasing in younger adults. Im cologuard®. Im convenient and find 92 of colon cancers. Even in early stages. 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