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>> is this one of those things that the moment you denied it, you admitted it. trump has a special kind of craze yay that nobody knows what he might say or where he might go with it, so i would say in the trump world, this is on brand. his supporters will be fine with it. there is nothing -- if there is one thing we've learned. there is nothing trump can say or do that would be so outlandish or ridiculous that his supporters won't say, you know he's riegt. so why not. can we hear from the russian prostitutes. that's my question. you've got to think from the strategist point of view, it's very maddening. how maddening is it like to have someone like trump hijack? >> it is coupled with narcissism coupled with sabotage. we saw this happen in georgia with the special election that resulted in two democrats winning and we are seeing it play out in virginia. the people haven't figured this out after four or five years of this. everything is about donald trump. he makes everything about himself. he's incapable of surrendering the spotlight for seconds. that's how he's wired. for the establishment, donald trump is your establishment now. all these trump wanna bes are part of the republican party establishment and toxic for people like youngkin trying to do a real thing. coming off as a character. it is a character he's playing. alliances are with white national racists like steve bannon. >> he's not trying to hinder the republican party he's threatening to stay at home unless that is fraud first. it might not be until what happened in the georgia senate races. how far are they willing to push to those extremes? >>. >> and this is absolutely about narcissism and egotism. nobody is going to do anything about it because nobody has done anything about it to this point. whether it results in electoral outcomes, he's feeding his own ego that they are willing to harm their own party by not denouncing or calling me out. it is really just himself feeding his own ego. >> switching gears talking to democrats. the big talk had to do with david shore that contains some announcements by david jordan. to some, it is controversial. he argues that the democratic party is losing because it is staffed by college educated liberals. losing the moderate voters they feed to win to stay in power. as a result, democrats end up spending a lot of time talking about issues but not to the multiracial block of moderate voters the party needs to win over to secure governing majorities. >> what do you make of these arguments, are the democratic staffers too elite and out of touch? >> i think this is a little overstated. one thing said a lot, focused on issues that are popular and explain it in simple language. the kids might say, duh. i don't think there is anything new about this. there is an element of the party that focuses on cultural issues and for liberals but i don't know if those are the issues that dominate in competitive races. there are very few level. in 2022, you may have 30 or 40 competitive house races. i tend to think we should give politicians more credit to come up with the right message to appeal. in some cases, that may be a per okayal message. i got funding for the gateway tunnel. or i was able to get the salt cap lifted on state and local taxes. there is a lot to what david is saying and it is important to focus on those issues. i think it would be overstated. the argument that we need better messaging may not be the best argument. i'm not sure if better messaging would hold for democrats and getting to hold on voters. the message is anti-trump. those democrats are playing on and mobilizing those to vote in november. >> is that enough to run on the ticket that he's still very much casting a large shadow in virginia perhaps some other races as well. when you think of some of the more town ticket races. should that be enough or will they have to put something forward particularly if they won the vote of independence in the last time around that they're going to need those independences that time around. >> i don't think it is enough. it is pretty effective and positive. we'll know a lot in a few weeks. to see how successful. and terry has been focusing on donald trump and so has gavin newsome. fears have been a motivator for democrats in 2020 and 2018. i do think at this point that may be the strongest thing they have. a fear of trumpism and what the party may need from them. >> ramp ant right now in the gop. asking you about the blow back at shore including this piece who argues that dems are preparing to abandon black voters again. what is your take? how would you rate how democrats have done with some of the core issues on black voters. they've stalled on getting the voting rights done. police reform. that has stalled. how do you think they are doing when trying to win overblack voters that arguably delivered the white house to joe biden and georgia to the two senators. >> well stacey abrams delivered. that was the power of a black woman and black voters. at best, it is the lesser of two evils. yes, we would love the voting rights act. that's an issue not just for black voters but for all voters and marginalized voters. police violence, absolutely we would like something done. i hate to sit here and say i speak for all black people. it is by far the lesser of two evils to have the democratic party versus the republican party. the republican party is like the police have done nothing wrong and they are doing everything people to stop people from voting. this talk of the democratic party abandoning black voters and being against you. abortion is about killing black babies. this is all manipulative right wing stuff. not like they are going to start investigating and get things done. black people aren't that dumb. is the democratic party good? at best, yes. at worse by far, the lesser of two evils. >> the republican party taken itself from an organization from specific policy issues and things like being pro life. balanced budget. pro military. they've gone from that to a single issue party. that single issue is believing in the conspiracy theory that the election wasn't legitimate in 2020. do you believe donald trump won the election or not? if your answer is, i don't believe it then you are out. kicked out of republican leadership as liz cheney found out. protested against in your own backyard as we've seen others in the district experience. when a party has gone from something rooted in public policy to the ether, there is no way to steer it back in substance and in truth. they are doubling and tripling and buckling down in the issue as long as donald trump is center stage and being the loudest and most visible choice browndown, kiss his ring, get his blessing and are running afraid. >> that's right. it is not even so much about trump anymore as it is about trumpism. the fall out from dave chapelle's special and the outrage. the nhl announce all bibut four players are vaccinated. as one league excels, others continue to struggle getting shots in the arm. some stories we are watching for you this hour, former president bill clinton should be released from the hospital. admitted earlier this week due to a urilogical infection. a deputy was killed and person of interest in houston is in custody. that person is not believed to be the shooter. good news of actor michael caine he said the next role in a movie would be his last. he's not retired. why stop at 176 imbd film credits after all. more after this. ♪ when you have nausea, ♪ ♪ heartburn, ingestion, upset stomach... ♪ ♪ diarrheaaaa. ♪ pepto bismol coats your stomach with fast and soothing relief. and try new drug free pepto herbal blends. made from 100% natural ginger and peppermint. baaam. internet that doesn't miss a beat. that's cute, but my internet streams to my ride. adorable, but does yours block malware? 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>> i think netflix deserves some credit for the way that it has shaped the conversation around these issues. sex education shows queer people and people in various types of relationships and is normalizing those types of views. netflix didn't listen to its own employees. its own transand lgbtq plus employees. when you make a statement that our content does not do harm then you are also saying our content does not do good and i don't think they would assert that. >> people see chapelle as a rich comedian attacking a weak community. are there some groups that shouldn't be the subject of jokes. he says he has no problem with transor other communities. he has a problem with white people. >> you could look at it but his entire career has been black comedian poking fun at the elite class. you couldn't buy the publicity. critics hate it sticks and stones. the last i checked, the remote on my tv works. if you don't like dave chapelle, you don't have to watch. that simple. a lot of people who complained about this did not watch the entire special. they heard some trigger words and at the end of the special, dave addressed a lot of things that came up and his opinions and his way of thinking and why comics on stage giving our point of view. if you look back at george carlin when he talked about things like suicide. what would people say to that. they would lose their mind. nobody said we have to shut down hbo because george did some pretty harsh suicide bits. no. everyone is offended. i don't buy the standard that we don't like the words he used. netflix has always protected their numbers. for the employee to let out that information, they are going to suspend or do whatever discipline it is to that employee. if you opportunity like him, just don't watch. comedians are going to keep talking. i wish i could create controversy. i'd be too big for your panel. >> you mean if you get big, you are not going to come back and join us? i'm offended by that. >> you have the standing invite. talking about another story. katie couric covered up rbg's dislike for talking the knee saying the protesters show a contempt for a government that has made it possible for their parents and grandparents to live a decent life. what do you think about katie couric made the decision to leave those words out and that the note orrious rbg said them? playing the slek tiff skperpt game. i think that crosses the ethical line and that is something every reporter or anchor needs to figure out what that is. with that investigation the nfl has been doing and the different things that have come up from that. revealing the entire story to the gm and red sciences for are 245. again, if you are going to report on things and try to prevent people for the full truth of who they are. good bad and indifferent. when you try to play god, which is what it feels like katie did here. that creates a backlash. that leaves them wondering what else did you do and what else is there? 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i haven't heard him say that yet. it raises an interesting point about the perception of who is getting vaccinated. a statement from the "new york times" challenge our perceptions. writing, you may think older americans account for the population. they are more prone from misinformation watching fox news or getting news from online. buts that not true. significant portion has received at least one dose and the other portion is confused and concerned rather than opposed. do you think somebody like him speaking out for that section is actually beneficial to get more people vaccinated and what can be done to reach them? >> when it comes to kyrie irving, it is always about kyrie irving. this is the third team he's been on that he basically blown up. he's doing with the celtics again. it is the same kind of selfishness i've seen in his career before hand. if he was out there and wanted to be useful, he would encourage people to get vaccinated. instead, he's making it all about himself as usual. it is hard to use him as a sort of model in this conversation. there is a lot of different groups out there not getting vaccinated for a lot of different reasons. we hear about the political reasons because they are trump supporters. you mention pregnant mothers or people who have given birth are worried about the effects. mentioning not everyone has doctors to go to to give them the right information. what's also happening and we have to acknowledge this. there is an entire news network and infrastructure pushing out the message that these vaccines are dangerous. telling his viewers every single night don't get vaccinated. he works for a company that mandates these vaccines. there are people out there pushing these dangerous messages. we have seen mandates work. $9 million. okay. fine. put it in my shoulder. in general, the mandates have been shown to succeed. >> talking about another major story. jon gruden stepping down after the exposed email he had made homophobic and racism and sexism remarks. you write this isn't just about words or people being sensitive to harmful language. this is about the real effect those notions have in the locker room and at the negotiating table. tell us a little more about that. what's the impact that some people may not be seeing from these e-mails? 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