investigation we have got some explosive new reporting from a book that reveals more about just how far donald trump was willing to go to overturn the election and if you think you've heard everything, just wait until you hear this. we are also just days away from the next big date in the fight over the texas abortion bill. i talk to leaders ahead of a key court date. plus following breaking news on a wild and deadly shooting in minnesota. and then a shocking story from ohio as a man makes a simple plea to police who pulled him over. >> i cannot step out. i'm a paraplegic. >> telling police he was paraplegic and unable to get out of the car didn't stop officers from violently pulling a man from his car. we're going to have that story ahead. incredibly disturbing stuff. we want to win the january 6 investigation so even as a subpoena shutdown looms this week for key aides a disturbing detail of donald trump's conduct before and during the attack on the capitol. abc news's jonathan carl describe it is length to which the former president went to overturn the election. this included arguing against aides who told him to call off the rioting. and spreading falsehoods shared first by jeffrey clarke that wireless thermostats made in china were used to manipulate voting machines in georgia. so intrigued was the president by this lie writes carl that he instructed jonathan ratcliffe to look into it. there is obviously no evidence to support the thermostat claim. got to say that. with me is two guests. welcome to you both. great to see you on this sunday afternoon. julie, evidence of discussions like the one with trump and clark, is that the kind of thing the committee's going to be looking for in the days and weeks ahead? [ no audio ] >> reporter: they look into january 6. >> there we go. >> reporter: i don't know what you heard me there but the rev lags in the new book are going to be part of the evidence that the house select committee considers. by the way also waiting for a trove of material from the national archives and those are sure to detail some of what jon karl lays out in the book and you have former president trump pressuring the ex-aides to defy the subpoena. they are required to appear and attend this week to detail what the former president knew and said and did on january 6. let's take a step back. the insurrection happened because former president trump supporters wanted to stop the steal and stop congress from certifying the election. you had the number two house republican on fox news asked point blank whether he believed that the election was stolen. take a listen to what he said. >> do you think the 2020 election was stolen from donald trump? >> i have been very clear from the beginning. if you look at states that didn't follow the state past laws that govern the election for president. that is what the constitution says. they don't say that the states determine what the rules are but the state legislatures determine the rules -- >> the states certified -- >> follow those -- right. are we going to follow what the constitution says or not? i hope we get back to what the constitution says. >> so you think the election was stolen? >> what i said is there are states that didn't follow the legislatively set rules. >> reporter: that was important to play for the viewers believe that interview took place this morning nearly a year after the 2020 election concluded. you had liz cheney who used to serve in republican leadership before she was kicked out and now the co-chair of that house committee investigating january 6 and said millions of americans have been sold a fraud that the election was stolen. republicans have a duty to tell the american people that this is not true. perpetuating the big lie is an attack on the constitutional republic. >> americans, folks i'm speaking to in the streets they believe this stuff hook, line and sinker and repeat it to us asking them about the election of 2020. danny, let's talk about jeffrey clark as a potential witness. is he exactly what the committee is looking for? those types of storys that are being told in karl's book? >> who the heck was jeffrey clark a year ago before the january 6 riots even happened? because here comes this justice department lawyer in late december apparently and allegedly meets with trump in the white house and a violation of policy. anyone who wanted to meet with the president would have had to run it by justy to get clearance and we want to know, the committee wants to know what was said at that meeting or at any of these meetings. where did the ideas come from? sending letters to georgia and other states raising issues about the election. jeffrey clark is a very important witness and folks have important questions for him. >> trump specifically instructing the former aides not to comply with the subpoenas. right? folks like mccarthy and scavino. bannon. wouldn't that suggest to a certain extent to the committee that he and his allies have something to hide? >> if they do that's a strike against them using executive privilege because a thing it protects and we don't know the contours of executive privilege since the supreme court created it. it cannot be used to she would wrongdoing and if there's wrongdoing or bad behavior this is not the thing the ex-president can use to shield it and a question whether an ex-president can raise privilege. nixon 2 part of the original series of cases the supreme court said the former president might have a say but not as much as the current president. >> all right. thank you guys both. appreciate it. we have new information out of st. paul, minnesota, where a bar shooting left one dead and 14 hurt. three men are arrested who police say were involved overnight. may began fitzgerald has the latest on this investigation. what more do you know about the men who are arrested here? >> reporter: yasmin, what we know is within the last couple of hours police confirmed that they did arrest three men as you mentioned connected to this shooting. their ages and they range from 29, 32 and 33 years old. we understand that this entire situation happened just after mid night this morning. multiple people opening fire inside a packed bar. police saying they saw people suffering with gunshot wounds outside and more people inside lying on the floor. altogether we are talking at 15 people shot. 14 transported to the hospital and expected to be okay but a 20-year-old woman, she did not make it. investigators tell us that she died in the hands of a friend who was desperate to save her. police have not released the names of the victims. they tell us they'll do so tomorrow and talking about an extensive investigation here with multiple law enforcement agencies that are right now combing the scene talking to witnesses, trying to get some answers because at this hour there's still unanswered questions and things we don't know how this started and why. >> thank you. in 48 hours or so a deadline looming over the next court fight over the texas abortion law. the 5th circuit court of appeals issued a stay on the halt. doj has until tuesday to stay the injunction. i sat down this weekend with two women on opposing sides of this battle. >> so your critic resumed abortion services over 48 thundershowers until the decision by the appeals court for this stay. that's going to leave you vulnerable to legal action. are you worried about that? do you regret resuming services during that time period? >> we don't regret it. it was the right thing to do. the people in texas needed abortion care and needed the hope and the victory of that injunction and so it means something to all of us, the doctors and the staff to get that injunction and to resume that care. it is scary. right? that's the whole design of it. it is meant to intimidate, to threaten, to make us afraid. >> part says essentially that you can pursue legal action against some of those clinics. do you so intend to do so? >> yes. so texas right to life and the movement we are dedicated to enforcing the act but there's a four-year statute of limitation and plenty of time to hold the industry accountable if they did violate the law in those 48 hours. >> what now? because no matter what happens on tuesday there's a fight ahead for the clinics and folks that are wanting abortion services for women in your state. >> the legal battle is going to be long over the next year or so, maybe longer, so we are hoping that we can get another injunction so that we can resume care in the interim. >> we have to wait and see what the full appellate court decides but we are optimistic that they may be favorable in that ruling. let's talk about this with me now wendy davis, former texas state representative. founder of deeds not words. you have been outspoken on what's taking place with sb 8. talk first about what is next for the state of texas was we await an answer by tuesday the deadline for the doj. >> sure. so right now, of course, the injunction has been lifted. that means that sb 8 is fully in effect once again. as you asked, the question of the anti-abortion guest that you interviewed earlier, she didn't really answer whether they were immediately going to bring suits against the clinics and front line abortion care workers who did perform abortions in those two days. if the appeals court does continue the position of preventing this injunction to be in place those clinics are going to be vulnerable to the suits under sb 8. my guess is that they're going to continue to try to keep things in limbo. right now they have had the best of all worlds because they have intimidated front line abortion care workers so much they're afraid to violate it. and they noy they haven't had to bring lawsuits in order to accomplish the closure of these abortion clinics across the state and i think they'll continue to take a restrained position because they know any lawsuit puts them in a courtroom that potentially is going to rule sb 8 unconstitutional and they're trying to avoid that at all costs. >> yeah. it is interesting that you say because the impression i got in my interview with texas right to life, right, the anti-abortion group, was that this law was designed to threaten some of these clinics from performing abortions. but whether or not they decided to carry out a lawsuit against any individual that participates in the performing of abortion services is another question. full well knowing if the constitutionality was questioned they may lose. >> that's exactly right so they're just sitting back and waiting to see what happens. and honestly, there may come a time if there is no injunktive relief there may come a time when it's necessary for clinics to begin providing abortion care under the constraints of roe v. wade, not of sb 8 and force this to a head. because unless and until those lawsuits motivate a test of its constitutionality our clinics continue to be shut down and roe v. wade continues to be overturned at least for the state of texas. one of the most important ways to help is to indemnify the workers if they violate sb 8 to test the constitutionality. we have a fund here in texas, fund the front line tx.org. that's what we'll use to indemnify the medical care workers if they face individual financial risk from the lawsuits. >> all right. wendy davis, thank you so much. stay close to us. because i know this is changing over the next couple days and like to keep in touch with you and talk to you once again as we see things emerge. thank you. still ahead, everybody -- >> help! >> stop. >> someone help! >> stop. >> somebody help me. i'm a paraplegic. >> the investigation into the shocking traffic 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>> seriously. >> we are not going to take it anymore. i see a civil war coming. i do. i see civil war coming especially with these mandates. >> gary, good the see you once again. talked to you yesterday ahead of the rally. here we are post rally and hearing the similar sentiment that we heard yesterday. some of the stuff is so harmful when you won't discount that the election was free and fair and joe biden did win in 2020 because now it is recounted by the followers. you spoke to those folks. talk to me about what you were hearing on the ground there. >> reporter: hey there, yasmin. you heard it right there. number of folks we talked to yesterday truly do not believe that joe biden won the election in 2020. a number of folks believe that january 6 was an inside job, a set-up. and yoz heard a woman said she believes a civil war is coming. we did also hear some legitimate concerns about the kitchen table issues like the man dates. being able to pay the bills or buy groceries for kids. there were some serious concerns. want to have you listen to some of those right now. >> he connects with the people and us and also he -- he actually puts policies in place. >> four years unemployment was lower than in years. national debt was lower than it had been in years and the country was more secure at the border and overseas. >> trump was pro-america, i think believed in the things about america that make america exceptional nation. >> when d.c. politicians are so out of touch that's where trump came in. he connected can mom and joe lunch bucket. the average grunts that actually work. >> we need something great to happen and i believe he's the answer. he did good for us before and i support him 100%. >> reporter: yasmin, we spoke to more than a dozen people at the rally yesterday. they all want president donald trump to run for president again in 2024. >> yeah. i'm sure they do. thank you. good to talk to you. while the former president is banned from facebook for nine month that's not stopped the message. facebook is letting trump's pac run ads implying he is the true president. can you believe that? i guess you can concerning the testimony from laths week. media matters published findings on how involved the pac is in spreading lies. let's talk about this. joined now by anglo carasone. let's get into this. because it is pretty troubling stuff to say the least. wanting to break down some of the findings from media matters overall. throw it up on the screen. pac created 1600 ads. how many people did that actually reach? >> millions. millions. when we actually look at the number of individuals that -- millions. well into the millions. easily 2.3 million and that's a really low number. probably significantly more than that. keep in mind that period is only since august 12th. previous study of $300,000 of advertisements reaching several more million people and the ads get more explicit in the attacks on the election, not less. >> you talk about 2.3 million run by the pac. they have 1.2 million followers. >> trump was suspended from facebook. right? >> yeah. >> after january 6. after the insurrection. >> yeah. still the pacs are able to publish these pages and send out misinformation to folks. how does that line up? >> it doesn't line up at all and shouldn't. in some ways if you are an individual and you got suspended or had the account taken down and then you try to do the same thing you would be banned in all the entities that you tried to run by proxy would be banned and any platform would do that in addition to facebook and the part i can't figure out when you look at the substance of the ads, of the ads of the 1600 there were 73 of them that said that trump was still the president. 123 of the ads called into question the results of the election that it was tainted and not a legislation mat election and facebook took down a few ads leaving up copies of them so they recognized that there was a threat after they were called out. modestly enforced the rules a little bit but the underlying issue remains that trump is banned and facebook is doing nothing about it. >> in addition to facebook and the trump pacs sending out this misinformation, through this medium we have also got fox news to contend with. i want to play a bit of some of what we have been hearing on fox news coming to the election and of course covid, the pandemic and the covid vaccine. >> the big problem is what the president is not telling young people. >> maybe we got breaking news. turns out the vaccines might not work. if five on the same plane had the covid-19 virus. >> this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated is simply untrue. that's a lie. the advice to give you suspected designed to help but make you comply. and you shouldn't comply mindlessly. >> there's times i ask myself i don't know how they sleep at night when they know they're lying and folks will die from the information they gain from fox news saying the vaccines don't work. people not getting vaccinated and falling ill from covid in the hospital or getting someone else sick. it is dangerous and you guys looked into this, as well. >> extremely. we did. we tried to take a big picture look and see what's the general impression? when you add it up what's a typical fox viewer experiencing? 181 of 183 days of last 6 months fox news not only actively cam paned against people getting vaccinated but public health measures as a whole. 98% of the coverage in some way discouraging the vaccine with dire warnings. more harmful than covid. a secret back door to get control. they're creating real harm. >> they are. anglo, thank you. thank you for joining us on this incredibly important. appreciate it. let's talk "snl" last night. if you didn't watch it was pretty good. i watched it. i don't watch often but i did. kim kardashian made an impressive debut with a monologue that took aim at several targets and included what some considered a shocking reference. wait until the end of this clip for that reference. >> i'm excited to be here tonight to show you that i'm so much more than just a pretty face. 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>> absolutely. >> i felt like i was trying to -- having to dissect things for my parents, to cross kind of those cultural lines, make sure they understood and be the bridge coming to so many misnomers from where they came from and where we are. you talk in your podcast about vaccinations and having to kind of be that bridge, right, for the older generation to explain to them, to talk to them about it. how important is this type of conversation and how does it go especially coming the covid vaccine? >> it's vital. quite literally. our lives depend on the tough conversations and the show was inspired by a close friend having difficult conversations with her mom about the on set of covid at the beginning of 2019 and her exhibited behavior that put her at risk and having to have these really har conversation with my friends led to think this has to be happening in millions of homes right now. it has to be happening because so many of us are first and second generations and bridging that information for our parents and we launched the show in two weeks because we knew it was urgent to get the conversations going and will not run out of things to talk about honestly. >> yeah. i bet. i want to play a piece of your podcast. in talking to professor geraldo about january 6, the insurrection and hispanic trump voters. >> i think during trump years there was a special offense to being a latino republican in the eyes of many because he is someone who in words at least directly attacked our community. so it's even more unimaginable that someone from our community could support donald trump. this idea to talk to each other sounds romantic and it also sounds naive and unrealistic to think that you can actually change other people's mind. that might be true. i don't know. i feel like i wrestle with it but what's the alternative to not continuing to engage one another? it seems look the only other alternative to continue to drift apart. >> even in other communities, between other generations, especially in the trump years a lot of folks chose family specifically not to engage one another. right? because it seemed to be so toxic, this trump versus everybody else if in fact one was in the trump camp. can you elaborate more on why you think it is so important to engage? especially when it comes to political beliefs within the hispanic community? >> well, the primary reason is that we are the fastest growing group in the united states. in terms of our educational atanment, the rate at which we start businesses, which we are ascending into the middle class, the upper classes and we are right now creating the leadership ranks of american government, american academia, corporate america for 50 years and so it is really important to intergenerationally understand how the values shape the roles we play in the united states. by 2043 i think the number -- getting adjusted sooner we will be the largest majority minority in the united states. right? we will represent the largest ethnic group in the united states. that's not that far. i will be alive and kicking by then. right? probably playing with the grand kids at that point and not a far away and we need to get clear about how our values as latinos can be represented broadly. we're not always going to agree and i think it would be detrimental if we expected us to agree but we need a consensus about how to lead when we ascend into the majority minority status which is coming. >> we know how important obviously the hispanic vote is as a voting bloc, right? as a people who vote, especially coming to elections. integral. can change the direction of election one way or the other. thank you so much. we appreciate your voice on this. tune in to how to talk to mami and papi about everything. tonight watch the conversations with hispanic and latino members of the biden white house, including department of homeland security secretary and health and human services secretary. she explores how the heritage informs the role in this administration. watch "american voices: latinos inside the white house" right here on msnbc. disturbing video out of ohio of the arrest of a paraplegic man. >> i cannot. i'm a paraplegic sir. come on. >> come on, bro. get out of the car. >> how officials are responding to images of a disabled man pulled from the car by his hair. by his hair. paraplegic man during a traffic stop. that's next. 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>> a lot to break down here. it starts when a dayton police officer offered clifford owensby to get out of the car. asking him to get out of the car this is what had happened. in response he said he was a paraplegic. that he could not as well even exit the vehicle because he was unable to use his legs. take a listen. >> get out of the car. i'm a paraplegic. >> help you get out. i'm helping you get out. >> excuse me? >> get out. >> i don't think that's going to happen, sir. i don't think that's going to happen. >> get out of the vehicle, sir. >> asked you. i will assist you. >> you are not. you are not going to touch me. you're not touching me. i'll get somebody on the line because i will -- there will be a lawsuit if you put your hands on me for no reason. >> the reason is -- >> no, no, no. we're not going to go there. a witness what's going on. i cannot step out. i'm a paraplegic. >> that audio is a way to receive it from the police department. officers then ordered him to get out saying in the tape it was to inspect it for drugs. they also offered to help him exit. he declined each time asked and then escalated. a quick warning the following video may be distressing. >> you see the two options. >> i know i have a right. >> i wish you could. >> call your -- >> how about this? >> no, no, no. >> get out of the car. get out of the car. get out of car. >> listen. i'm a paraplegic. you can hurt me. you can hurt me. >> get out of the car. >> what are you doing? i'm a paraplegic. i'm a paraplegic! you can hurt me! you can hurt me! >> get out of the car! >> i'm a paraplegic! ow! ow! ow! >> get out of the car! >> somebody help! somebody help! somebody help! >> stop. >> somebody help! >> stop. >> stop. >> someone help. >> stop. >> stop. >> somebody help. i'm a paraplegic. they are doing this to me. >> stop. >> somebody please help me. >> stop! stop! >> you are hurting me! >> i'm a paraplegic. >> stop! stop! >> i'm a paraplegic! >> stop. >> i'm a paraplegic! >> he told officers at least ten times you heard it there that he is a paraplegic and officers removed him as you saw grabbing the arms and then his hair in that video. after dragging him from the vehicle and then holding him to the ground there you saw pressure was put to the head, back and buttocks area to hold him and then appears they dragged him into the back of the troll car about 20 feet. the video has been edited to about 12 minutes. you saw 2 of that. there might be more detail that is we are not privy to. the dayton mayor called it very concerning and says an investigation is under way and the interim chief said they have bias free policing and addition to that the dayton fraternal order of officer said sometime it is arrest is not pretty but is a necessary part of law enforcement to maintain public safety. mass yasmin, this happened september 30th and the video just shared on friday at a public hearing. >> richard lui, so incredibly disturbing. when watching that video, ten times that man, that individual said i'm a paraplegic. i can't get out of this car. they continued to drag him out by his hair. must have been incredibly harrowing and scary for that man. thank you. coming up in the next hour, a critical week ahead for the january 6 investigation. i'll speak to a lawmaker about the insurrection experience and what to expect from the push to get ex-trump aides to testify. congressman dan kildee joins me live. plus netflix and north carolina. both the streaming service and the tar hill state under fire over attacks on the lgtbq community. reaction to the controversy and much, much more after a very quick break.k. there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ it's another day. and anything could happen.. it could be the day you welcome 1,200 guests and all their devices. or it could be the day there's a cyberthreat. only comcast business' secure network solutions give you the power of sd-wan and advanced security integrated on our activecore platform so you can control your network from anywhere, anytime. it's network management redefined. every day in business is a big day. we'll keep you ready for what's next. comcast business powering possibilities.

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