Happen because neither one of the parties were crazy. Trouble is tonight bun team cat one democratic senator says thats true. When youre dealing with crazy, you dont know whats going to happen. You never know what will happen. The consequences are real and serious and it will affect people at homes and in their pocketbooks so i appreciate youre covering this tonight. Have yourself a good show lawrence. Thank you, ali. Back in the day i was running the staff process for the Senate Finance committee. I had to deal with an im Patient Nominee for secretary of treasury. The process was moving quickly but i kept getting messages from him asking what was taking so long and finally, someone close to the nominee has whispered an explain nation to me he wants to sign the money. They get to sign their names to every piece of american Paper Currency and that is quite a super power unlike any power that anyone else in the government has including the president. Secretaries of the treasury also have the unique and hugely important power to invoke what the treasury calls extraordinary measures. And that is where the United States of america is tonight. Treasury secretary janet yellen is already taking extraordinary measures to try to delay the day and the hour when the government of the United States will default on its debt. Those extraordinary measures include suspending investments in certain federal worker Pension Funds among other things. The exact day on which we will hit the debt limit is unknown because it literally depends among other things on exactly how much money the federal government collects each day. The daily cash flow into the United States treasury, which is mostly tax revenue fluctuates between 50 billion a day and over 300 billion a day. So if janet yellen has a string of 300 billion days at treasury, then we might hit the debt limit on october 25th instead of october 18th. If janet yellen has a string of 50 billion days, the treasury then we could hit the debt ceiling sooner than october 18th, which is currently the treasury secretarys target date for when she expects the United States of america to for the first time in history default on its debt. October 18th is the date that secretary yellen estimates the treasury will run out of moves. Thats the day. Janet yellen expects the treasury to exhaust all of the treasurys extraordinary measures. So far janet yellen is the only one in washington who has taken extraordinary measures to avoid the first default on americas debt in history. Mitch mcconnell has taken the distressingly ordinary measure of imposing an increase in the debt limit and at the same time he has taken the measure of a 60vote threshold to raise the debt ceiling. Mitch mcconnell has given no reason hes asking every republican senator to vote against allowing the democrats to have a simple majority vote on increasing the debt limit. The New York Times reports today senator blunt said 40 or 45 republicans would be willing to agree to allow a Debt Ceiling Increase to come to a vote as long as they did not have to cast a public ballot. In other words, 45 republican senators would be happy to allow the Debt Ceiling Increase to come to a vote if they werent senators. Senators have to vote publicly. Thats the job. That is the thing that senator roy blunt is saying republican senators do not want to do. They dont want to vote publicly. Democratic senator brian of hawaii is quoted by the New York Times in that same article saying American Politics has gone crazy because one party has gone crazy. No republican senators are complaining about the senator calling them crazy. Not that long ago if a senator said the other party has gone crazy, the other party would be publicly expressing outrage at that senator but crazy is the republican senates brand now. And so democrats are now realizing that they may have to take extraordinary measures to prevent the country from going into default, which would send the American Economy into a depression and throw the World Economy into at least a recession. Senator angus king has never been in favor of changing the 60vote Threshold Rule in the senate but in that same New York Times article the senator said this, ive been very reluctant for nine years about modifying the Filibuster Rule with policy but this has nothing to do with policy. This is about keeping the United States on the world that could be a severe recession and so Mitch Mcconnells measure of requiring a 60vote threshold to allow the democrats to have an actual vote to have a debt limit itself could be the thing that provokes the democrats in the senate to all realize dealing with a party that has gone crazy means the 60vote Threshold Rule has to be eliminated for something as important as the debt ceiling and if democrats agree to change that rule because the debt ceiling is so important, then the conversation will continue among democrats about what else might be as important as preserving the full faith and credit of the United States of america, is preserving democracy itself as important or even more important than preserving the full faith and credit of the United States . If it is, democrats will have to eliminate the 60vote threshold for Voting Rights legislation by impoing the 60vote threshold Mitch Mcconnell is showing the absurdity of the threshold for anything in the United States senate. Senate democrats are still struggling to meet the 50vote threshold necessary to pass the tax and social policy portion of the biden Infrastructure Package through the Reconciliation Package in the senate and once again today, senator Kyrsten Sinema mocked the very concept of public accountability. Senator, where are you on the reconciliation . Senator, im wondering why you feel you dont have to say literally anything about this publicly to the people that voted for you and didnt vote for you. Everybody needs to be engaging in a public conversation. I appreciate this but shes i appreciate that. Senator. You have a phone and email. I do. Its a great email account. Senator, do you have any they monitor it all the time. Garrett, you havent reached our office. Senator, do the people who have been protesting you have any effect on the way youre looking at this issue . All right. Thank you senator. Thanks garrett. Thank you. That was Garrett Haake trying to get senator sinema to recognize the concept of accountability, leading our conversation is former Deputy Chief Of Staff and the author of kill switch the rise of the modern senate and the crippling of american democracy. Michelle goldberg is with us. Staff writer for the new yorker and professor of Journalism At Colombia university. He is coauthor of the book the matter of black lives. And michelle goldberg, id like to begin with you tonight and your reaction to that video of senator sinema you wrote one of your op ed pieces about the current posture in the senate and there she is continuing a complete, i dont know what to call it, a defiance of public accountability and inability to comprehend go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. I mean, it looks to me like contempt for public accountability and whats significant is that you can sort of make you can make an argument that youre not accountable to the National Press core if youreconstituent that put you in office but what progressives, the progressives to mobilize to elect cinema to the senate in 2018 say is that, you know, she wont meet with them. She wont talk to them. She doesnt do any sort of Public Events in arizona and so i disapprove of the stunt people pulled the other day when they followed her into the bathroom but nobody has been able to communicate with her as far as i know in any way whatsoever and she holds at this point the fate of the biden presidency and the fate of the republic in her hands and what is so maddening is not just that she has objections to the social spending package, not just that shes trying to leverage her kind of power as a swing voter but that she wont even articulate what concessions she would accept from progressives. And jelani cobb, the job Garrett Haake is trying to do there is a job that the been done in the halls of the Senate Office building as soon as they finished building that building and every senator is subject to that. Most of them have an easy time including when they dont want to say anything and there used to be 100 senators and now maybe there are only 99 who know how to speak and say nothing important at the same time. In those situations with reporters. There are a lot of options in that moment other than completely denying that there is any reason to ever say anything public to the press. Sure. I mean, its an art form. We were all there. I mean, Journalism At Colombia, we have conversations about this. People are able to give you and fill up give you absolutely no information and, you know, we all as journalists know when theyre doing it and they know we know theyre doing it as part of the process to get people to give you something of substance. The Stone Walling is bizarre in addition to the fact that its very difficult to discern what the end game is here. You know, her Approval Ratings back home plummeted. She has essentially held the senate in a more legislatively consta pated situation. As were kareeming once again through debt ceiling drama, which always, always in the past for me, always contained the lack of suspension about what the final outcome was because of course, the congress was going to move the debt ceiling or suspend the debt ceiling ordeal with it in a way that would avoid default but when you have one party in the senate that as far as i can tell accepts the label crazy and seems to think thats the way to profit politically with trump voters is to appear to be crazy and reckless and dangerous like donald trump is just a little tricky to try to figure out what happens next. Yeah, it sure is and, you know, i was there in the senate in 2011. Ten years ago when he had our last major Debt Ceiling Crisis where we came within a few days of defaulting and we reached a deal at the last minute but, you know, whats different about now versus then is that we were engaged in, you know, active, you know, open negotiations in 2011, you know, in the weeks leading up to the default. Right now, there is nothing going on. Mitch mcconnell is not making any demands as he was back then. He just is basically playing this game of chicken and staring down the prospect of default and frankly, what hes doing is he is daring democrats to reform the filibuster as you laid out in your opening. And i think that, you know, hes not necessarily operating from a position of strength here in large part i think his stance is determined by the fact he doesnt control his conference in the way he would want to and cant prevent his fellow republicans from Obstructing Democrats if they choose to use the reconciliation pass. Really, democrats know that theyre closing in on a very narrow range of options and probably the best option available to them is to pass some kind of narrow filibuster reform because the other option simply might not get them to where they need to get to to raise the debt ceiling by the time the extraordinary measures run out so i think, you know, we think a lot about mcconnell but he may not be operating from position of strength. Thats important for democrats to factor into their thinking. Michelle, one of the reasons why ive never really previously worried about the debt ceiling is people like mitch mk mcconne hes very rich and got rich in an Old Fashioned way. He married around the money. He has somewhere around 30 million, maybe more. Mitt romney very, very, very rich man. These are the kinds of people who are hurt very, very badly by the kind of market crash you would have if we were to crash into the debt ceiling and so my confidence in republican senators especially own personal interest in their own personal wealth has always guided me through the panic stages of debt ceiling brinksmanship with that expectation but this time, it does include this other element, which Mitch Mcconnell is teaching the democrats, the joe mansion, the angis king, the People Holding back of adjusting the 60vote threshold. Hes teaching them the best lesson yet this year thats actually happening on the senate floor at the moment about why that 60vote threshold needs to go. I mean, everything thats terrifying, everything that is dysfunctional in our politics can in someways be attributed at this point to the filibuster, right . Its not only its the debt ceiling, its although joe biden is still working to put together 50 votes for this Reconciliation Package, the way the only reason he has to legislate in this ridiculous way that he has to kind of cram his entire legislative agenda to be put in one bill that can only be passed through this procedual trick is because the republicans refuse to allow sort of regular order and so you could imagine a, you know, if they sort of broke this up and passed each piece individually some republicans would have some incentive to at least negotiate on things like paid leave, you know, instead, we have to instead, the only way to do anything is through this kind of absurd procedural trickery likewise with Voting Rights. There is a proposal that mansion himself has put together that cannot pass under the current configuration and the current configuration is meant to even further entrench Minority Rule that will make it harder and harder for democrats to win elections, let alone govern no matter even if they get substantial electoral major majorities. Professor cobb, when, if you were to open up the 60vote threshold for lets say debt ceiling votes, well now youve done it. Now these senators, many of them for the first times in their lives have participated in a rule change and maybe it wont be quite so hard when you apply the same focus to say, preserving democracy. Thats the hope. One of the things thats this discussion is the defense of the filibuster in the idea a 60vote threshold will force a mjor pay party to do the Horse Trading to the administrative process but the opposite is happening. When the People Holding out and defending the filibuster cant get that process to happen, you know, on their own, then it means that this system is fatally flawed, you know, and when Kyrsten Sinema and the op ed she wrote in june said this was her reasoning for defielding defending the filibuster, people dont have to be on the record for anything to take a vote and so there is really no incentive for them to change this system in which theyre benefitting at the same time obstructing the opposition parties, president s agenda. So that really has to happen. Professor jelani cobb and michelle goldberg. Thank you for starting us off tonight, appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Coming up, mike pence is now trying to win the votes of the people who said they want to kill mike pence on january 6th. Thats next. 6th thats next. 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Hang mike pence hang mike pence hang mike pence mike pence now calls that one day in january like calling pearl harbor one day in december or 9 11 one day in september. Last night on fox mike pence tried to win back the hearts and minds and future president ial votes from the people who said they wanted to kill hip on january 6th. Mike pence said quote, i know the media wants to distract from the Biden Administrations failed agenda by Focussing On One Day in january. They want to use that one day to demean the character and intentions of 74 million americans. I have repeatedly said 74 Million People who voted for donald trump had nothing to do with january 6th and have repeatedly demonstrated that nothing can make them leave their sofa to protest the election. January 6th was not about the 74 Million People that voted for donald trump. It was about a few thousand criminals who voted for donald trump and wanted mike pence to join the ranks of criminals that day by violating the law. Recent reporting by Bob Wood Ward and robert costa says mike pence wanted to reverse the outcome of the president ial election but couldnt find a legal way to do it. And unlike the criminals that attacked the capitol, mike pence was not willing to break the law that day but has firsthand information and testimony to offer about donald trump and others who were trying to break the law that day. The House Select Committee investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol might be adding mike pence to the list of subpoenaed witnesses at some point. The first round of subpoenas that from four high level Trump Officials ripen this week on thursday the committee has subpoenaed documents from steve bannon, mark meadows, dan and cash patel and they must delivered by thursday so we will have the first sign of coal ply compliance or defiance this week. Last week, the committees chairman benny tompson said said this. We started questioning something of the voluntary Witnesses Today and well continue that process. Well have other subpoenas that scheduled to come out to those who dont agree to come in voluntarily, well do criminal referrals and let that process work out. Joining us is the former counsel for the first Impeachment Trial of donald trump. Hes also former assistant u. S. Attorney for the Southern District of new york. Hes an msnbc legal analyst. Daniel, thank you very much for joining us tonight. There is a lot in what benny tompson said said including the reference to they already started Questioning Volunteer Witnesses who didnt need to be subpoenaed but lets go to the subpoenas that that in this week its Document Subpoenas that, thursday is the due date. If we do not see compliance on thursday, what happens . There are options the house can go to court to enforce the subpoenas that that we saw in congress and it takes long perhaps longer than we have left in this congress to find its way through the courts. They can discuss with the witnesses, lawyers some accommodation to get some documents if not all and i would expect trump to file a lawsuit to intervene to prevent the witnesses from providing the documents that are asked based on Executive Privilege. That will be legally baseless. Its not his decision to make in the first place. Its joe bidens decision to make and joe biden indicated hes not going to assert Executive Privilege but that doesnt stop donald trump from litigating it so the next big date will be next week when all four of those witnesses have been subpoenaed to testify. That to me is the more vital subpoena and its the subpoena that if i were in the house ir i would be focused on because what wound its way through the last congress through the d. C. Circuit ultimately nullified Donald Trumps assertion of something he called absolute immunity, which just prevents top executives or top senior officials to the president from testifying all together. That does not exist. So if you are subpoenaed by congress, you must show up at a very min minute minute minim. When they talk about criminal referrals, i suspect what hes talking about is referringminut. When they talk about criminal referrals, i suspect what hes talking about is referring the Testimonial Subpoenas that to investigate and consider charging the witnesses with Criminal Contempt, which is a felony crime. And how long is that process . Well, it depends on what happens and it depends on how much the testimony gets wrapped up in the litigation that many believe is forthcoming. The reason why you would go after the testimony is its much cleaner than documents. Documents, some of them may give rise to punitive Executive Privilege and claims that donald trump would assert and then biden would have to respond to. It gets very mushy and thats not a good case to bring for a Criminal Contempt but the doj would have to investigate it. It doesnt take that long to investigate in theory and then they would prepare to potentially bring charges. This is rarely done but if there is ever a time to do it, it would be in relation to the insurrection on january 6th when our Democratic Republic was put in parol. Donald trump did Say Something uncharacteristic in a podcast about this, asked about challenging the subpoenas that, defying the subpoenas that. He said im mixed because we did nothing wrong so im sort of saying why are we hiring lawyers to do this . Id like to just have everybody go in and just say what you have to say. Now, im quoting a pathological liar here so the fact that he says this today has of course, no meaning like Everything Else he says but for him to strike that note at all is a bit surprising. Its Donald Trumps m. O. Hell say what he would love to do is the right thing but his lawyers wont let him or hes being instructed that he cant. I would love to go speak to bob mueller but i cant go speak to bob mueller for some unknown reason and then he delays and doesnt do it. I would love to turnover my tax returns but we still have not seen them. So it is at this point almost a tick by donald trump to do that and hes foreshadowing exactly what hes going to do, which is hes hired lawyers to file a lawsuit to prevent these witnesses from turning over the documents. So thursday will probably be the day that they file the lawsuit and there will be no documents that will be turned over. We will see. Thursday. Thank you very much for joining us. Appreciate it. Thank you. 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President biden went to maine to get support for the infa Infrastructure Bill are still very popular. 62 of americans say they support the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill and 57 of americans say they support the 3. 5 trillion Budget Reconciliation Bill. In separate meetings yesterday and today, the president told moderate democrats and Progressive Democrats that the 3. 5 trillion Budget Reconciliation Bill will probably have to be retargeted to a lower number around 2 trillion. Joining us now is democratic congresswoman Debbie Dingell of michigan. Shes a senior democratic whip in the house, a volt counter for nancy pelosi. Thank you for joining us tonight. How many votes do you have tonight . Lawrence, were not vote counting right now because were figuring out where were getting it and not doing numbers in public, were talking substance. What were talking about, figuring out how to get back Building Back better. You were with the president again today in michigan. Hes gone to michigan more than once on this same subject. Why michigan . Why is that one of his Favorite Places to go for this subject . Well, michigan is reflective of the country. We it was a state that donald trump won five years ago now, four years ago, which i predicted and everyone thought i was crazy but it was a state he won in 2020. We have people that look at issues, think about the thought. We have people dive in on both sides and where he went today. In michigan is not the heart of democratic territory and support donald trump. Hes got to talk to the American People what he is trying to do, lay out the vision and thats how were going to get this done. What is the right mix for the president now between these meetings hes having with sometimes individual senators, sometimes with groups of House Members and going out there in speeches like the speech today . So he gets a combination. First of all, i think you heard me and i said this for a number of weeks that they are having conversations with a few people, senators from the senate and most of the House Members didnt know what people were talking about, what the programs were. We know what the build back better version is and we need it and by the way, the American People were on hit. They want the roads and bridges fixed. Theyre worried about child care. I could go through the list again and we need to be doing more of that. The president didnt people now understood after you came to the Democratic Caucus on friday, what is it he wants us to do . Laid it out very clearly. Laid it out. Said i dont want to talk about numbers right now. I want to know what your constituents what, what programs . Hes starting to have those conversations, not only he. The speakers and others are talking to the caucus as a whole. We have to quit this pity. Im totally with them. Everyone loves it. Okay. What can we really simply get done . This is the vision that he laid out when he ran for president and now weve got to deliver it to the American People. One reason why the numbers in these bills are so big is that this legislative arena has been ignored for so long if you dont do Infrastructure Repairs and building for many years then you have many years worth of expenses building up under you and there is a future benefit to this kind of extension so its big when you finally get around to doing it. The president made that point today how this is not spending for one year. This is spending for the future. Lets listen to what he had to say. The only thing were missing is the will from washington to finally build an economy around you, that gives you and your Family A Fighting Chance to get ahead and gives our country a fighting chance to compete with the rest of the world. We need to prepare for ten years down the line. Thats what these bills do. Both these bills spend out over ten years, not in the first year. What is your sense of the way swing voters in michigan hear a speech like that . I think by coming to michigan being covered by the michigan media, youre go you know what they heard him say today . They know it. Those voters voted for donald trump five years ago didnt think washington cared about. 70 of the batteries for electric vehicles are being built in china. We know. My district is one of those districts that has close across the riverfront, these Steel Workers out of jobs for ten or 20, 30 years, they want their jobs here in america and thats what hes laying out, how well get there and keep those jobs and by the way, how are we going to bring the supply chain back to this country . What is in build back america is part of getting that done. Congresswoman Debbie Dingell, thank you very much for joining us. Always appreciate it. Thanks, lawrence. Thank you. 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When youre robbed of your dignity. When youre robbed of your integrity, when youre robbed of your descent basic rights as a human being and mistreated like that, i mean, it sticks with you for a long time. The person that was hurt the most from this was my grandfather Bernard Bruce because he was actually there. He knew charles and willa has his grandparents and for him, i think it was extreme he felt the prejudice. Anthony bruce will now be in effect inheriting bruces beach along with other descendants of willa and charles. The California State Legislature unanimously passed a bill restoring the bruce familys ownership of that property. Governor gavin newsom signed the bill into law at bruces beach. Well, as governor of california, let me do what apparently Manhattan Beach is unwilling to do and i want to apologize to the bruce family for the injustice that was done to them a century ago. Joining us now is California State Senator steven bradford. Hes the author of the bill that enabled the land known as bruces beach to be returned to the brucebruces beach to be returned to the bruce family and chair of the black caucus. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Really appreciate it. It was it like to finally get this work done . It is going on for a few years. Recently in california. But also, the unanimous support of the legislature. I think it was overwhelming. I think it was telling by the unanimous vote that people saw this as a horrible injustice to the bruce family and an injustice that has lasted almost 100 years and my colleagues totally agreed but more importantly the community and surrounding Community Whos been following this issue now for a number of years and just was truly the wind under our wings to let us know that we were doing the right thing and moving forward with this legislation so im excited about the fact that the governor saw enough importance in the issue to show up in Manhattan Beach on that piece of property that this family owned and signed the measure with Anthony Bruce, the great, Great Grandson Of Charles and willa and do whats right and correct a wrong that the city of Manhattan Beach committed on a couple who did no more than want the American Dream just like any of us here in this country so im excited and i appreciate the support of my colleagues and the surrounding communities and the leadership by l. A. County supervisor and Holly Mitchell because it couldnt happen without them. The property came under the control of janice hahn and she immediately took action. I remember reading the first articles on this a few years ago and sickened by being brought back to the 1920s in that reporting of when this was happening and knowing as anyone in l. A. Would know how hugely valuable that land became. They bought it for about 1200 at the time but became worth millions upon millions of dollars. In fact Anthony Bruce, this passage of a piece that Anthony Bruce wrote. He said the bill will allow my family to do what countless other American Families have done since our countrys founding, inherit property and build Family Wealth over generations. Ill never know whether the familys business would have grown to rival that of Hilton Or Marriott which were founded around the same time and grew from equally humble beginnings. When you know the value of that land skyrocketed over time, there was an enormous fortune coming the bruce family if that land remained in the family. Without a doubt. It just showed how hard the city of Manhattan Beach worked to make sure that this family denied generational wealth and i was as we moved through the process we were constantly confronted with people that said whos to know they wouldnt have sold it. Whats generational wealth look like . It would look like the hiltons, the rockefellers but they were denied that and not only the bruces but hundreds if not thousands of other africanamericans across the nation denied the opportunity to build generational wealth through the ownership of land so yes why who would have known . This could have been a Bruce Beach Chain up and down the west coast all down california or across the nation. But they were denied that opportunity. Simply because of racism. Im glad you mentioned possible other cases because you know youre dealing with the temp of an iceberg, with the one exposed story in a now enlightened community of los angeles with senators like you and janice and others who were working on this. But all over the country you can imagine things like this happening 100 years ago in places that have not come close to coming to terms with it. Without a doubt. I want to recognize a book by allison jefferson. Living in california dream africanamerican leisure and she first started to expose the other africanamerican Leisure Spots in the early 1900s like the inkwell in santa monica. Valverde up toward palmdale. Africanamerican recreational spots adhering to the Jim Crow Laws but look outside the state of california. Lets go to South Carolina. We know about hilton head island. Im a golfer. It was one of the most pristine resorts in this country for golf. That was inhabited by the slaves after the civil war. South carolina slaves forced off the mainland and live on that island and not until the whites realized what a piece of land it was they cut off the water to the island and forced them back to mainland and another example of land stolen from africanamericans and now a multimillion dollar if not billion Dollar Resort in South Carolina and plenty of examples as we stated that the bruces went through. California state senator bradford, thank you for joining us tonight on this important story. We really appreciate it. Thank you for your interest in this critical issue. Thank you. Tonights last word is next. Sorry . Limu, youre an animal only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Helen knew exercise could help her diabetes. But she didnt know what was right for her. No. Nope. No way. But then helen went from no to know with freestyle libre 14 day, now she knows what activity helps lower her glucose. And can see what works best for her. 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