white house reporter for the associated press, jonathan lemire is with us for the morning. he was up way too early. we'll start with the report from friday, republicans investigating the 2.1 million ballots cast last year in arizona confirmed the accuracy of the official results that joe biden won maricopa county. cyber ninjas concluded that biden had won 360 more votes than the county awarded him in the official count. however, former president trump continued to make his baseless claims of last year's vote, issuing a flurry of statements. what is becoming a litmus test for many members of his own party. he continues spreading the big lie over the weekend especially on saturday at a rally in perry, georgia. >> we won on arizona forensic audit yesterday on a level you would not believe. it's clear in arizona that they must decertify the election. it was a corruption. it's my opinion by the way that georgia is far worst. and hopefully the arizona attorney general good man will do for more for his state than your attorney general has done for your state. your attorney general has not done what he's supposed to be doing. >> this seems like old video. i feel like we are watching video like six months ago or nine months ago. i feel it's getting more and more hallow for members of the republican party. how can they stand up for that. >> it's a question we have asked for five years. the lies do keep getting -- not worse but more obvious. >> right. >> it's obvious they tried to rig the process and donald trump found he lost by a wider margin than expected. a lot of talk about robert kagan's sweeping piece on our constitutional crisis is already here. well, the constitutional crisis because people know the truth and they choose to follow donald trump instead. it's a personality cult as kagan points out, the likes of which our founding fathers never anticipated. it's fuelled by the cult members who can hear the news coming out of arizona that donald trump lost again. they can hear the news from their doctors about the safety of covid shots. they can hear the truth about covid and other issues, about january the 6th. they know the truth, they choose the lies. donald trump is the one who of course is fanning those lies and hopes to benefit from them again. >> first of all, joe, with results of the other recount for president trump setting a record losing in arizona. congratulations to him. you are right. >> i guess you can say jonathan lemire that he's sort of the boss in red sox. this is the third big recount he lost there. >> yeah, i feel like we have a lot of red sox talk to. all these lies are still dangerous ones. ones that a lot of people are choose to believe. it does seem like right now more than ever before the concept of truth itself is in debate here in the united states when it should be inherently not up for debate where people are choosing to believe conspiracy theory they see on social media or being floated by a politician whether it's a former president or a sitting republican senator or congressman that there are and this is right now a loyalty test and the gop with only a few exceptions largely going along with former president trump. will that translate votes for him in 2024 if he were to run again? he continues to have a strangle hold on this party and what is perhaps so dangerous here is not just the fact that he and those close to him are contesting 2020 election, they're pushing the lie of the 2020 election. they're move on 2024 and installing big lies, secretary of states in various states of across the country. republican legislatures changing voting laws and access to the ballots. it's about 2020 but really, joe, right now is about 2024 in laying the ground work and putting people in place who'll be going on with the big lie that republicans can lose but yet those votes won't be certified and the real winner won't be put in office. >> that was what robert kagan talking about all this that the danger is yes, while the system held in 2020, if you are sitting there wondering, why are they changing election laws and states where donald trump won. >> they're afraid in 2024 he may not do as well, it may get closer and still make the election. those of you when you hear about voting reforms and a lot of the challenges that this country and this democracy is facing is so important to look at the two phases these trump states are doing. putting blocks for black voters and other people of color but more frightening than that for all americans is the fact that they're trying to change the rules on the counting of the votes. changing one state legislatures after another and trump's friendly territory is trying to make so state legislatures can throw out your vote. if you don't vote for donald trump, if they don't like what your community does or your precinct does or what your state does. these republican legislatures that are trumpists are now passing legislation that takes the power away from election officials and takes the power away from secretaries of state and governors. let's just start telling the truth. you see the people behind donald trump? they're the people who's feeling this. they're the ones that are preferring the lies and going to the conspiracy sites and getting their information from the reuter or the bbc, they're getting it from chinese religious cults. oh, we can't trust the ap and the mainstream media. here is some information from the chinese religious bill. what are you thinking about? that's the insanity that we live in. we need to stop looking at trump and these images and start looking at people behind him who know the truth but rather live in a lie. everyday they continue to talk about bamboo and voting ballots. everyday they reenforce trump lies in alabama and georgia and lies about rigged elections. they are the threat to american democracy. >> here is some of robert kagan's column that you mentioned. robert kagan writes in part "the united states is heading to its greatest political and constitutional crisis since the civil war. with a reasonable chance over the next three or four years incidents of mass violence, break down of federal authority, and the division of the country into red and blue unclaims. the founders did not see the trump phenomenon because they did not foresee national parties. they anticipated the threat of a demagogue but not a national cult of personality. we are already in the constitutional crisis. the destruction of democracy may not come until november 2024. critical steps in that direction are happening now. in a little more than a year, it may become impossible to pass legislation to protect the electoral process in 2024. one wonders whether modern american politicians or either party have it in them to make bold moves. the courage to do whatever it's necessary to save the democratic system. if that means political suicides for this handful of republicans, would it be better to go out fighting for democracy than to slink off quietly through the night." that's the question, joe. they're out there and it's those people you are talking about that are still going to his rallies and texting you and still hides what clearly are lies and comfortable places to have an argument. >> wealthy group of supporters, too. that all of donald trump's supporters and working class people. >> that's just a lie. a lot of them are wealthy, upper middle class people who have the best college degrees that one can get. they're the ones that are spreading those lies, choosing to spread those lies and liberalism over american democracy, turning their back on everything they were taught growing up in school. believing that democracy is not legitimate and election is not valid unless you like the results and outcome. you do wonder where their patriotism gets tossed aside, where their view of america gets so twisted that they're now supporting the throwing out of a presidential election but it happens. jonathan lemire, there was a line from kagan he says the founding fathers saw the threat of national party but never saw the rise of a leader of a personality cult. that's what we have here. while kagan talks about what republicans need to do, this comes down to the fact that democrats have the votes. democrats have the votes to pass legislation or stop state legislatures from stealing the election, from stealing the election, their intent, my good friend manchin and sinema, their intent is to steal the election. you can see the clear intent written on the legislation. if mitch mcconnell believes there should be an exemption for the filibuster, one of the most important things the senate does and that's supreme court justices, there can't be filibuster and saving american democracy for voting rights laws for civil rights laws? i guess - i guess the question in washington has been for some time now jonathan lemire, will the democratic party have the courage to count the 50 to stop these schemes for stealing elections and destroying american democracy. will they have the courage to count the 50 and do what republicans would do in a new york second. >> the question is if not now, when? the stakes could not be higher. we obviously are facing a looming government shutdown, the fight over the debt ceiling and this is the week where president biden's two-part agenda is going to be debated or voted on. democrats are not sure if they can keep their party together to get it done. it's going to be a long week and a lot of twists and turns ahead. while that has dominated the oxygen, yes. in the background has been this other looming fights than no bigger than the ones over voting rights that so many democrats feel like should be front and center, it should be job number one for this white house to say why have you not made this a priority. not only it endangers our chances of winning elections next year but also disenfranchise, perhaps, huge portions of the democratic party and putting 2024 up for grabs as we see these republican stakes legislatures. that's all about the filibuster. the white house is listening. you need to get this done, some sort of modification or elimination of the filibuster to focus on this, maybe only this or yes. that exception you said on voting rights. you have to do this and it has to be a priority. there are some democratic senators, manchin and sinema and others who are quiet about it. as much as we'll look at it this week, to twist arms and control his party to get the agenda done down the road. he's going to do the same to convince democrats. >> how quaint and how precious those democratic senators are concerned of senate formalities or concerned of senate procedures as republicans for working as hard as they can to not only stop people that vote democratic and getting out to vote in 2024 but rigging the vote counting process so the local election officials can be overrun. so the secretary of state that says no to donald trump's lies can be overrun by republican legislatures in the state. that governors or the trumpist of governors were not going to discount votes in their states. they're not going to throw out votes from black majority precincts even though donald trump wanted them to do that. they're not going to do that. how precious democratic senators are worried about procedures. it's not constitutional procedures. are they hoping to have a tea party on capitol lawn and after the capitol is overrun again? what exactly, as what my grandmother would say, what are they saving their spits for? what are they saving it for? because republicans right now are working around the clock to destroy american democracy the way we grown up with american democracy where actually where you didn't allow state legislatures to overturn local voting officials. this is the hypocrisy of ron desantis who says oh, i am a conservative, it's the local people that needs it all. oh no, but when it goes against desantis, he does not trust teachers or parents or school boards or local leaders. he wants all the power to himself so he can be the puppet master from tallahassee. how sad? we have the same thing here, mika, where you actually have now state legislatures, we need to push local control. now they're passing legislation that takes local control away from local election officials. why? because those officials will count the ballots and they'll report that to the state. they don't want to do that anymore. they have their own scheme and plan to undermine elections that don't go their way because they know they're going, they keep losing. their policies are so important to most americans. this is what they do and on the democratic side. you just had democrats running around in circles and acting like they never been there before and they don't know what to do with that power. i must say if they lose, it's going to be their own fault because the chaos and the end fighting. it's so embarrassing. eugene daniels, i want to bring you in here, i have to ask, they got the votes to pass reconciliation. they have to vote to pass this historic infrastructure bill. are they going to do it? while republicans work everyday to keep passing voting laws to take away the right of voters that are not going to support them. >> the infrastructure bill that you have nancy pelosi announcing they're going to vote on that infrastructure bill in the house on thursday. she talks about the starting house debate. pelosi is someone who'll not bring to the forum that she knows she still has the votes. she's been projecting this air of confidence over and over again. that's something that's really interesting is that there is so much of the - moderates change the game when they start to say you do the infrastructure and as manchin says. that's not their agreement that started this entire process. the process that started. they wanted to do from the president on down and agreed to do was doing these things in the two-track and no longer seems to be as possible. there is a lot of frustration within moderates and progressives that they can't get together and figure these things out. if they can't do these and can't figure these out, the harder stuff, working on changing some of the senate's so they can do and protect democracy in the way they want to do democrats. how are they going to do that? they can't get enough votes to do what's really popular, right? and as much as people talking about president biden's approval rating going down. his actual policies, the bill back better act, it's popular to the american people. if you can't do something that's as popular as this, how can voters depend on you to do the rest of the stuff, the police reform, the voting protection, protecting abortion rights and all of those things. >> we'll get through all that's going on and another waver forward for republicans with some remarks that liz cheney made last night on "60 minutes." now to covid, today is the day that vaccine mandate kicked in for new york public school. a federal judge granted a temporary injunction. monica alba has a details. >> reporter: just hours before a vaccine mandate were set to go into effect. a federal judge blocked its enforcement in the nation's largest school system. after mayor de blasio announced after 150,000 employees would have to get their first dose by monday, mixed emotions from parents on what the pause means for their children. >> it should be mandated. yes. >> i feel like if teachers don want the vaccines, that's okay. as long everybody put the mask on. there is a similar prerequisite for hospitals and nursing home workers prompting concerns over staffing shortages. with katy hochul is ready to declare a state of emergency if thousands of teachers don't show up. 84% of hospital employees in new york state are fully vaccinated. in new york city schools, 89% of teachers have gotten their shots. >> this is only one in any number of lawsuit that is you are going to see across the country because of the polarization and the disinformation. >> the biden administration are bracing for legal battles when it comes to its own requirements for workers nationwide. with the challenges enforcing some of these directives, more complicated than creating them. >> let's bring in charles kulmann. where does this goes next? >> what we'll see after what we have already seen in terms of this injunction being granted. the next court, court of appeals, there will be a panel of judges that'll look at this decision on an expedited cases. that panel of judges they'll decide whether this is going to stop right where it is and whether the mandate will go forward or if the mandate is not legal and we'll see another appeal and being taken higher. it's not dead in the water and we'll see it being reviewed in the matter of days likely before the week is over. >> charles, why did the judge step in and allow this injunction to sto in effect of what new york city says to do to stop the children. >> they kept on saying now there will be an opportunity for all the facts to come out. now we'll have the opportunity to present more facts. i found out to be strange because when i looked at the pleading from both parties and the reason i say that is a large part of why i think this decision coming down the way it did was about framing. i don't think they made the connection they needed to from a legal perspective to make it a matter of public health in terms of why they are mandating the vaccines for its teachers because we know that the vaccines can prevent you from having extreme symptoms when it comes to covid. we know you can track covid and spread it even if you are vaccinated. when reading the pleading, it did not make the strongest case for the rational and they were attempting to advance in order to get to the conclusion they wanted. this is a matter of protecting public health and protecting our teachers from others but not laying that out as clearly as needed to be in order to institute a mask mandate for all deal employees. >> that's an important point here. walk us through, let's say you are right and this gets instituted in a few days, will there be other means of those do not want to take the vaccine? what other messaging do you think this sends to other school districts across the country who are looking at similar mandate? >> both are fantastic questions. because new york city is the largest school district in the country. this is unprecedented. everyone is watching to understand how we are going to handle it. this is unchartered territory for pretty much all of us here because we have never been in a situation like this. the model that exists in new york city from a legal perspective and a practical perspective is going to lay the foundation for everything we do going forward. in terms of other additional remedies, yes, you are going to have from an employment standpoint of the idea of religious statement. however, i don't want to send the message that this is going to be something widely available for anyone to simply claim religious exemption. there is a process occurs that you claim that and you have to establish it with a great deal of certainty before you can say i am exempted because of my religious belief or practices. i expect additional litigation not just here in new york. the people are going to readily accept it. >> all right, charles coleman, thank you very much. we'll speak to congresswoman mikie sherrill. plus, the tony awards returns to celebrate the best of broadway from before the pandemic. we'll go through last night's winners including a look behind the curtains at david byrne himself. and, an end of an era in germany as angela merkel won't be chancellor for the first time in nearly 20 years. we'll go live to berlin. you are watching "morning joe," we'll be right back. e watching we'll be right back. this is the new world of work. each day looks different than the last. but whatever work becomes... the servicenow platform will make it just, flow. whether it's finding ways to help you serve your customers, orchestrating a safe return to the office... wait. an office? 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the question i have to ask is who could have seen this coming at trade deadline? who could have ever known the most important series for the yankees probably in 20 years during the regular season that we would go into the succulent third game ahead and our bullpen would blow it for us. starting relievers putting them on and letting them give the game away. >> the red sox's bullpen have been on the verge of dumpster fire for months and it had completely gone up in flames in recent weeks. joe, they had the ability and the means to add a couple of arms. they did not do that. they had two small pitcher pieces who have been all that great. we had our all-star closer, had a melt down and unable to pitch. he was not good last night. garrett woodlock is hurt and he can't pitch this weekend. >> i am speechless of how this weekend is. the last two games with the late inning league blown both. chief carl stanson could not hit a slider away. i could get him out. >> you know those commercials where staton plays against little league. they threw him sliders and struck him out 12 times in a row. you can't get stanton out. he's been horrid in the past couple of years. again, let's get back to it. it's not like we said this in realtime. the world series going into trade deadline and getting nothing in our bullpen. nothing in our bullpen when we desperately needed it. now that we have our starters actually carrying the weight for the most part. we can't get through innings against the new york yankees two nights in a row. i hate to say it but workization actually blown this year. >> yeah, they got him at the deadline. they absolutely did not bring in the pitching they needed and it's rooted at the worst possible time. there were something sadly familiar with the yankees with the late comebacks. now, red sox fallen the game behind the yankees. the red sox still owe number two but only one game up on the blue jays. this week starting tomorrow and blue jays and yankees playing three games. right now joe, i will ask you this question, do you have any faith especially if we have a late lead, do you have any faith the red sox hold onto that win? do you think we can do that? >> when is this over? >> actually looking forward to what happens if we do it. we set the orioles a couple of times. i think we can sweep the nats. what happens at the one game playoff? how big of a league do you have to have for the red sox's bullpen not to blow it. >> that's a big problem. if they pick up one start, one reliever, everything would have been different. instead they get that proof of purchase seals from kelloggs, they get the buffets, you know, coupons and that's all they thought they needed going into october. i got bad news for them. we are in big trouble. >> ruining the weekend. >> that one game is at yankees stadium even if we are lucky to be there. this weekend also saw what could be the start of a new era of ryder cup. >> after losses of the last 12 ryder cup competition, the u.s. washed away decades of defeat on the shore of -- >> can we watch this defeat off of us after watching the red sox blow three games of the yankees. >> go usa but what does it mean? >> america's youngest ryder cup team, the biggest lost ever 19-9, okay, guys, you need to get over it. when does this stuff with baseball ends? when is it over? why don't we go back to the news because i hear angela merkel's party was the boston red sox. now for the first time in germany. >> can i answer your question? this will never end. jonathan, can i ask you a question. will you ever forget this weekend? do you remember when the sox were leaving the wild card and the yankees came into town and they got swept for blowing the second? would you ever forgot that? >> i forgot what happened in berlin yesterday but the red sox was getting swept at home against the yankees with shades of 78 or series in '06 where the yankees came and beat us five straight. there is something so depressingly familiar about this, joe. no, i won't forget it any time soon as best as i try. >> are there other people like you guys? >> i am afraid. this is probably the worst. >> this is the normal. even when we were winning 108 games back in 2018 while lemire and i were panicking every night. let's move onto germany. angela merkel blocked by 1.8%. merkel would not seek a fifth turn but her successor is still up in the air. in germany, the winning party does not appoint the next chancellor and said parliament will vote after a new coalition government had been formed. let's bring in matt bradley, live in berlin for more on this. matt? >> reporter: hey, yes, i was talking about this with jonathan a little while ago. if you squint, this kind of looks like a big change of government that results from fred's election. if you allow me to pour cold water for a moment here. what you are seeing is germans voting for continuity. for one thing, olaff schols, he's already in the government. there is going to be some long negotiations that are going to go into forming a coalition government. we have an early glimpse of what's going on and it does not look pretty. this is going to be an acrimonous debate. again, it's going to be a coalition government which means it's going to look a lot like the current government. they're going to be bonding together and aligning together all of these parties across the political spectrum. some of the smaller parties are in position to be king maker. the greens are going to be on the left along with a centrist libertarian party. really whatever that's going to happen is going to be about continuity and this government looking very similar from the out going one led by angela merkel. she, as this chancellor been around for 16 years. she's been stabilizing force for four different u.s. presidents. >> reporter: germany's election yesterday were unlike anything we have seen. for the first time in 16 years angela merkel will no longer be chancellor. >> reporter: merkel stirred germany into multiple economic disputes and the global pandemic and four different american presidents. she managed to reset germany's relationship with george w. bush and poisoning by the predecessor refused to participate in the iraq war. >> in texas when you invite somebody in your home, it's about warmth and respect. the moment that seems, and bush'sover friendly background and eventually they were able to laugh it off. >> no back rubs. >> it was in barack obama that merkel found a true partner. merkel never shared obama's sworing rhetorical style. their admiration was as much as political and personal. >> that's when merkel's honeymoon ended. donald trump was hopefully hostile and opening germany's doors to refugees. >> if president bush can be too touchy, president trump refused to shake merkel's hand. a legacy that merkel's successor may need. the challenges merkel faced still persist. >> i know mecca had a successful legacy of resolving problems. most of the big crisis issues that she managed to resolve for the ten years is still there. whoever follows her is left with dramatic issues. matt bradley, thank you so much. let's bring him in right now. ted lus. i get to get to that title. >> fantastic. you got to explain it to us. i would love to get your reaction from one of the most significant leaders. a massive impact on that country as well. talk about merkel and the election. >> it's going to take weeks or maybe months to negotiate a new government. the dutch had an election in march and they're still trying to form a government. it's not good-bye yet. she as you say, joe, she's a second longest running german chancellor. about three months left to him 16 years to each of them. the first female chancellor and a symbol of continuity in europe. at one point we were calling her leader of the free world, slight exaggeration but she's also a past master at kicking the can down the road. as your correspondents say resulting but not solving crisis. she's been able to keep germany together and keep stirring europe along but not resolving the big issues such as european defense, such as the common asylum policy or reforming the eu budget. she left those to whoever her successors are going to be. >> we are hearing a lot of reports about how close this election is. there may not be a significant shift. i remember back to 2005 when merkel came into power. a lot of americans cheered by the fact that she defeated schroeder, someone who taken a pretty strong anti-american stance for quite some time. here she is at 15 or 16 years later. >> she won full consecutive elections. who else in the democratic world can you say that about? if she had been on the ballot this time given how close. she would probably star in fifth consecutive actions. she seen ultimate survivor. one thing she's been able to do that is not take controversial decisions, by kicking the can down the road. it's a great political skill. most politicians are not very good at it. but, it does mean that germany has a lot of big unresolved problems facing it that she's going to bequeath. the next government looks likely to be what they call a traffic light coalition. red, sdpt social democrats. and amber, the libertarian party. that can move germany in a different direction. >> you know and one of the outcomes of the election, it appears to be that the sort of the elements. there were fears that they were gaining force and was going to have a big impact on germany's politics. not so and not even close yesterday. >> not even those. they fell a 10%. they were up at 13% the last election in 2017. but, she forms such a grand coalition, traditional german coalition. they were official leaders of the opposition. they have been setback heavily. it's a pretty remarkable accomplishment. i mention of criticisms of merkel but it's an accomplishment that she makes it to one point of 2 million refugees from the middle east, mostly from sierra. and she managed to keep the far right and reduce its support. i think one of the reasons for that in addition to her political skills is that the german middle class for the most part have been doing pretty well under merkel. the economy grown about a third since she became chancellor. that's kept the extremism falsism at base. it's a real setback for popularism on the right and left. a real setback. the center one. it may look fragmented but if you look from a 30,000 foot perspective, the center one is election. that's a real accomplishment. >> ed luce, thank you very much. coming up. new developments of the administration push for vaccines for kids. as the president works of well concerns of booster shots. doctors are dealing with escalating antivaccine movement that's leading to so called vigilante move. . we'll explain next on "morning joe." ♪♪ ning joe. ♪ oh! are you using liberty mutual's coverage customizer tool? so you only pay for what you need. sorry? limu, you're an animal! only pay for what you need. ♪ 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ends monday. in the fight against coronavirus, one doctor in michigan is recounting of what he was was told. even some who were on their death beds. a few examples "you are wrong doctor, i am too healthy, i don't have covid, i demand hydroxychloroquine. his hospital at times slammed with unvaccinated patients. he estimated nine out of every ten covid patients he treats are unvaccinated. what doctor is warning about is not unique to the hospital. according to post seen by nbc news, antivaccination groups are urging covid-19 patients avoid emergency rooms and leave icu beds. conspiracy theories are claiming doctors are preventing unvaccinated patients from receiving miracle cures or killing them on purpose. some people in antivaccine facebook groups are telling those with covid-19 to stay away from hospitals and instead try increasingly dangerous at home treatments. let's bring in senior reporter for nbc news, brandy. i am curious, basically the difference here is the messengers, nurses and doctors are being targeted to an extent. >> yeah, to a large extent. patients are you know deferring this life-saving care to try this unproven cure. a lot of are believing that doctors and nurses are keeping them sick and trying to hurt them. this leads to violence against healthcare professionals. we seen an uptick in that. this one antidote sticks with me. there is a medical center introduced panic button on employee batches because of this reason. >> jesus. >> like you said in the beginning, doctors and nurses are caring for these folks until their final breath. a woman she was five months pregnant and both she and the baby died, refusing to believe that covid is that dangerous. >> this is so depressing and for many of these doctors and nurses and combative moments for nurses and doctors when they are working for a year and a half with covid and everything that comes with it. what can be done here? are they doing something to take care of their workers? are there any good news stories here where some of these people had been converted or had their minds changed? is there any glimmer of hope we can take from any of this in. >> sure, there is a recent story who i believe didn't not want to get the vaccine and she converted. honestly those antidotes are few and far between. what we see are coming from this piece of news is we see what happens and these conspiracy theorists succeed at getting people checked themselves at the hospital. we have activists dying and we have prominent radio hosts dying. doctors were begging him to stay in the video. he died this week. the consequences could not be anymore clear. nothing is changing. it's really beyond all logic. >> let's go to eugenedaniels. i understand you recently had a covid infection. >> when it comes to the biden administration, what if anything can they do now? we knew we are going to get to this people who are vaccine-hesitance. what can the government do to get people take the vaccine or this believe that's not going to save them. >> as far as i know is mandates. mandates do seem to work to get people, the majority of people thinking to say i don't want to lose my job or i want to fly on that plane or whatever the mandate, whatever the mandates ruling. and so that's some good news but i think what this also shows is there is a limit to any outside sources can do and conspiracy thinking and spread on social media is very strong. there will always be a source of people finding their information this way and believe it. the other half, when a woman like the pregnant woman and her by die, usually those family members and those immediate friends and relatives are getting vaccinated. so at some point maybe maybe that'll do it. >> senior reporter for nbc news, brandy, thank you so much. we appreciate your reporting this morning. last hour we told you former president trump's reaction to the friday report from republicans investigating the nearly 2.1 million ballots cast last year in arizona. the report confirming the official results in president biden's win in maricopa. >> joe biden wins again over and over again, just like the yankees. >> trump spent much of the weekend falsely claiming the review found new widespread fraud in what's becoming quickly a litmus test of members of many of his party. cyber ninjas, it concluded biden won 360 more votes than the county awarded him. >> cyber ninjas -- they bring in people trying to rig the recount and saying as everybody and even lindsey graham and mike lee, they said no evidence in widespread voter fraud and just like the 63 federal judges looked at many of them. no evidence of widespread election fraud. these people are believing the lie that donald trump is telling them just because they choose to believe in the lie. they can look at the fact and they can read the news but instead they prefer to go to conspiracy websites or facebook which is really the same thing. >> meanwhile republican congresswoman liz cheney hit back at the former president after his spokesperson shares a photo mash up of cheney and former george w. bush last week. the 43rd president is set to hold a fundraiser for cheney. >> she took on trump and house minority leader kevin mccarthy in an interview of "60 minutes." what she's done is embrace donald trump. if i am doing what he's doing is i would be deeply ashamed of myself. i don't know how you explain that to your children. when you are in a situation where you had somebody did what donald trump did. it's clear he can't continue to be somebody you embrace. >> you say you can't support anybody that supports him. >> there are people that supported donald trump because of his policies. there is a difference between somebody voted for donald trump and being the republican leader after an insurrection and setting all of that aside and going to mar-a-lago and rehabilitating him and bringing him back, that's unforgivable. >> most republicans we spoken to feel that you miscalculated, that you did not figure out ahead of time that it was going to be this intense and this hot and perpetual. >> i watched while the attack was underway and understood clearly what he did on january 6th and what he failed to do on january 6th and instead of stopping the attack while it was underway, he was busy calling up senators and trying to get them to delay the count. there was no calculations. he's very dangerous. a vote against me in this race or whomever donald trump endorse is a vote for somebody who's willing to perpetuate the big lie and put allegiance to trump, above the constitution. >> i thought very interesting. if they are wimps, that's their problem. let's bring in jeffery goldberg. a lot to talk about. why don't we start with liz cheney. i think liz probably speaks for a lot of republicans and democrats alike and independence who saw what happened on january the 6th and says no matter, no matter what is policies are or not, there is no way you can support a politician who tries to bring down a vote count, an electoral vote count and get in the way of a peaceful transition. it's just not done in our country. >> yeah, the only part of what you just said, i push back a little bit. yes, democrats and independence, the question is how many republicans actually do believe what happened january 6th is a travesty and donald trump is unfit to be president. and kinsinger, one of the two republicans on the committee and spoken with trump. he feels pretty much alone in his caucus. he has the same feeling as liz cheney has. you know these people have lost a lot of friends and a lot of support, donald trump is pretty effective at driving them out of the party. he may be redistricting out. he has an interesting role to play in the future of our country. there is a handful. you are talking about a remnant of republicans who are not frighten or so moved to anger by what is going on that they're willing to put their careers on the line >> let's be very clear. even before january the 6th, donald trump and the last two weeks pressuring his attorney general to arrest his political opponent who was ahead of him in the polls and to arrest his political opponent's party and get angry at his attorney general who had been a sycophant up to that point. that's arrest anybody who serve -- donald trump ended his presidential campaign in 2020 that way. that's just one of a hundred different excuses to never, ever and not only to vote for this man but dedicate your life to making sure the political movement that he started is swept away and dust thin of history. >> you know it's funny to say this because i just talked to a prominent republican last week who decided that he's had enough of donald trump and it was january 6th and his behavior on election night that he said did not form. that was what did it for isn't you? >> remember when he was attacking john mccain about the vietnamese? that didn't do it? >> 600,000 dead from covid didn't do it? him calling dead soldiers losers and him calling pows basically losers and saying it's not a political era. >> and leverage foreign leader to try to find dirt. we can go on chapter first. yes. i am glad that january 6th finally got a few republicans moving but you do wonder how long -- let's go to an even more difficult problem, jeffery. that's donald trump going out speaking, talking about how the election was stolen from him and actually looking to arizona and this so-called cyber ninjas recount which actually showed him losing by more votes. and saying with a straight face in front of them enduring crowds that that recount proves that he actually won the election. and them willingly cheering. we all talk about trump, trump, it's time to talk about the hell a lot more of the people behind trump and the people continued cheering and people continue going to conspiracy websites and the people continue to choose to support a candidate who wants to undermine the american constitution and american democracy. and they just don't want to know what the truth is. they avoid the facts and instead go to facebook or chinese religious cults conspiracy websites. they choose to actively do that everyday. what kind of threat is that for american democracy as we move through 2021? >> right. you know and just listening to your discussion a little bit earlier on covid and on vaccine denials, this is all one story. it's really, really interesting and very frightening. it's the same story. it's a mass refusal vetted by social media and facebook and cynical, political leaders and some leader in the media who know better to undermine the concept of truth of the verifiable and observable truth. vaccines don't work and b, trump won the election. it's all part of the same crisis of knowledge expertise and i am >> jeffery, with everything that's going on this week. what are the plans? >> the plan is for me to ask nancy pelosi tomorrow. and she will probably avoid the question. that's my whole plan and strategy but we'll try. one of the things i always want nancy pelosi to do is to translate congress into english in a kind of way and i mean is very confusing for the average intelligent american to figure out what is kabuki and what is drama and theater this week and what is real. one of the things i want to talk to her about is this view which is under reported right now that progressives have already won. we have a good piece by russell berman yesterday. the argue is the number, it's not about the principles under what the moderates and democrats are trying to do. that's interesting. we may end this week if the democrats have their way or we may end this week with a really, really significant social changes and economic changes in some way on par with the new deal. it all seems to be happening at one moment. >> while republicans are trying to change voting laws across the country and trying to strip local election officials of power and discount the votes and report those votes, we want republican legislatures to be able to throw out whatever votes they want to throw out. democrats seem to continue to be fighting each other over $3.5 trillion verses lint bills and filibusters. it seems ridiculous, does it? the democrats at least to this point continue to fight outwardly and openly when they have a chance transformave >> you are the expert, not me. it seems like everyone is positioning to get marginal advantage they could get. i noticed inside watching pelosi the last few days that she seems very calm or some what calm about all this and as if she's seen this kind of thing before. like i said, let's just say this ends with $2 trillion in new spending, $2.5 trillion rather than $3.5 trillion. it's still a massive shift. it still shows the democratic party led by a formerly moderate and now progressive president joe biden, the democratic party is really aligned on the need for some basic changes in the way that the government interacts with the people. >> hey, 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interested in hearing the answer now. >> do you have any questions of how the withdrawal went down? >> i do. i have a lot of questions about that and certainly asking some of those questions will be at the forefront although i think we need to be informed, how we continue the mission of getting people out. i also voted when i was voting for the national defense authorization form of commission so that we can look into exactly what happened during the withdrawal and issue areas that we need to address as well as a broad look at the war in afghanistan. our nation's longest war. >> congresswoman, where are your constituents on the withdrawal, obviously overwhelming majority of americans supported ending of our troops being in afghanistan. what about your constituents? >> like me, most of my constituents did feel it was time to bring this war to a close. we had captured and killed osama bin laden and we had ended the physical infrastructure of terrorism within afghanistan. we are worried about that making a resurgence but we acted to protect the homeland by making sure afghanistan was not a place that terrorists could attack america from. and now my constituents are really concerned of the afghan refugees. we are looking upward of 13,000 that'll be coming to mcguire dicks. i have a lot of employers that are asking me what is the plan because i could really use some of the work force that's coming in and is there a pathway to jobs for the afghan refugees. we also been looking critically at the young people coming en. what's the program for education and how are we going to make sure they are taking care of. as we look at the refugees and where they are headed in the future. we want to make sure they are successful as they transition to be american citizens. >> let's move from foreign policies to domestics. a lot of back and forth this week and crazy week, trying to get the infrastructure bill passed and a number of reconciliation that'll make it work or a continuing resolution or doing something to keep the government open. what are your thoughts, how does it look and are you optimistic? >> a lot of questions on this monday morning, thank you, joe. it's all critical. as you know i worked in the government for many, many years, i do not believe in a government shutdown. the american people are counting on the jobs and programming in those pieces of legislation to make sure we can make it fully out of this crisis and invest in the future of our economy. >> so, we had a lot of talk going back and forth about moderates who don't want to vote for $3.5 trillion bill. progressives that don't want to go below 3.5 billion. i suspect democrats will figure out a way to get there from here. we'll know whether democrats or republicans won the house pretty early, election night 2022 by looking at district like yours. what do your constituents out of the infrastructure bill and the reconciliation bill. >> we have been wanting the gateway tunnel for some years. it's critical that we get those tunnels done. it was definitely much worse after sandy. i know my own husband there would be a couple of weeks i am going to try to get a car with some other people. that's going on across north jersey. we have got to get those tunnels started especially for jobs that'll bring into our economy. people really want to make sure that we are bringing down healthcare costs for american families and investing in child care. i can tell you as a work mom of four, child care in this country is a debacle and now we don't have the work force we need in so many areas. not investing in child care is devastating to our economy. when you are impacting women in the economy, you are impacting middle class families. we know the speakers moving the votes to thursday and by a few more days here. what role should president biden be playing here as this heads into the stretcher. >> these are critical pieces of legislation that's going to define the future of the country. when we are talking about investment and crumbling roads and bridges. when we are talking about investment that's going to make a huge difference for 10 or 20 or 30 years into the future. we need to make sure we are getting this done and starting to talk to the american people about. what has to happen? the full caucus on board has to have some agreement on where we are going on reconciliation. people need to feel confident if we are going to vote for the infrastructure bill. and then the president is going to have a role to play. for those people who are still on defense that are saying wait, i don't understand this process or i am not comfortable with this, that's when the president gets it. that's when you get a call from joe biden to tell you, look, this is needed by the country. you hope it's a cookie and not a stick but that's when the president calls you and tells you, this is what the country needs and we need you to help us get over the line. >> congresswoman mikie sherrill, thank 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about the fact that actually is bipartisan legislation that actually police organizations supported. very fascinating choice for tim scott to make. joining us now, senior intelligence officer. he's out with the new piece entitled "philly's police of the 18th district." there is a rampant proliferation of guns, daily homicides. america has pockets of staggering decay. the nature of which it can only be understood if you see them up close and personal. what i witnessed should not be happening in america. one of the richest countries in the world. having your successes remain the shadows success remain a shadows and regrettable failures splashed across the papers is a common theme. most importantly, these jobs come with a need for resolute inner strength. these are jobs where acclaim is hard to come by. >> to give our viewers background, a long and storied career in the cia. you go around to police departments talking about leadership. talking about the book you wrote on leadership and what you learned all over the world, and usually when you're going in there, you're going in the police departments where you've actually seen things that are hard to describe to people who haven't been there. here in philly, the 18th precinct, you walked away from it saying i've never seen anything this bad. >> thank you. the concept is how to lead in times of adversity. a young captain in the philly police department, smart, ar tick you lat, he called me and said please, come talk to my officers. there's an epidemic of homicides and gun violence. i traveled there and spoke both with his uniformed personnel, undercover officers as well. i was blown away. i spent almost three years in the war zones across the world whether it's iraq, afghanistan, syria, other places. i thought i had a tough job and was a bad ass operaor for the united states government. i got nothing compared to the philly police. what they experience every day is staggering to me. >> what's so staggering is this is not just happening in philadelphia. you can find chances are good that kind of precinct, that kind of district all over america often within a mile or two of four-star restaurants and four-star hotels. but it's just a view of america that a lot of people choose to ignore. it's also a view -- it's also a part of america that our law enforcement officers cannot ignore. and mark, we've been talking about it day in and day out and day in and day out. if you talk to people in the most dangerous parts of new york city or the most dangerous parts of philadelphia or the most dangerous parts of baltimore or atlanta, they will say we don't want to defund the police. we want you to fund the police. we want our children to be able to walk to school more safely. we want officers in their schools on the street corners. yes, we want policing reform, but we need more police. we need more protection. you saw that firsthand there. >> that's right. when i went to visit the 18th and certainly i went along with the police at night during the day and at night. we also traveled outside to an area called kensington. which was incredible to me. it looked like scenes out of the walking dead. there's drug addicts. it's open air drug markets. people shooting up. it was a blight on america. but one of the key points of this, and one of the reasons why i think it's important to have these discussions is for me as a former cia officer, i remember the calls to abolish the cia. similar to what you hear now about defunding the police. we have to be careful. these are indispensable institutions to the united states. the political rhetoric, you have to bring it down a bit. i think my talk to the men and women resonated. you know, our successes are not heralded. our failures are often splashed across the front pages of the paper. i told my officers if you want a friend, get a dog. you have to have the inner strengths to get in the streets every day among the men and women of the 18th district. it was a tremendous experience. i wanted to tell the world about it. >> we've seen mayors across the country call for defunding the police or at least curbing their authority in one way or another. a year later much has changed. many mayors in larger cities are saying we need more funding for the police. we need reform, but we also need more funding because of the crime wave that's happened over the past year. what do these officers on the frontline of the 18th and yes, i will say the frontline. if that's offending somebody, go to the 18th for a night or two, and then you come back and you be offended while you're sipping your latte and writing your little blog or whatever you're doing. mark, what do these people on the frontline and the districts like the 18th need? >> what they certainly need is several things. first, the idea of reform but not defunding. so what does reform mean? it means obviously retention. better pay. different kinds of training. political support from local governments that are often hostile to them. but one thing i really must mention is the pride the individuals have in the community. many of them are from philadelphia. as i drove through some of the really tough neighborhoods, the cops there would tell me there are good people in this neighborhood. you know, and so we have to support the police on this notion. the idea of integraing them, integrating law enforcement, i think is not smart. now, we can have smart police reform, where you certainly protect civil liberies but give police the tools they need. that's the nature of the political laebt that needs to happen. >> i want to shift gears and talk about the havana syndrome. you've talked about your own experiences with it. there continues to be an up tick in cases. there were two people in theet veet -- vietnam to came down with it. it appears to be widespread. there's been some tension within the department on this. the vienna chief station has been removed because he expressed skepticism of the condition. there's been anger by some who said not enough is being done. give us the support and story. where do things stand? what's your take? >> again, i've said this many times before. director bill burns of the cia has been front and center in leading on this, and thank goodness he has. other elements of the u.s. government have not. i think you saw the state department ambassador who left her job. she was with the state department. i think there's been a lot of anger at secretary of state blinken for his inattention to this. and it's okay. it's good to note and highlight this. we need to have this whole of government approach. in my view and the view of others, you see senator collins on the hill talking openly that americans are under attack. so we have to find out what happened. when it comes time where members of traveling vip parties are getting hit by these attacks, i think that this is a situation where the lights are blinking red right now. you know, we -- if our officials, vips are not safe, we have a serious foreign policy crisis on our hands. >> yeah. by the way, jonathan lamire, speaking of needing answers, mark, also a huge red sox fan. burning up text. we were demanding answers through the weekend. we got our answers. we just didn't like them. >> all grim news, mark. and certainly i know you're -- you tweeted something more optimistic today about the red sox's fate this week because of the soft schedule. i can't say i quite share your enthusiasm, but i hope you're right. >> a lot of fun. >> no, it's not. >> i'm going to just end it. retired cia senior intelligence officer, thank you. read his new piece. for the washington examiner. and his latest book is entitled "clarity in crisis; leadership lessons from the cia". still ahead, the ongoing battle over vaccine mandates. what's next for teachers in america's largest school system after a vaccine mandate originally set to go into effect today was temporarily blocked? 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>> well, it's a question that we've asked now for five years, and well, the lies do keep getting not worse. more obvious. >> right. >> it's obvious they try to rig the process in arizona, and in the -- the process of rigging that process, donald trump finds out he lost by even a wider margin to joe biden than originally expected. you know, a lot of talk this weekend, jonathan, about robert kagen's sweeping piece on our constitutional crisis is already here. well, the constitutional crisis that we're facing is only here because people know the truth and they choose to follow donald trump instead. it is a personality cult as pointed out. a cult the likes of which our founding fathers never anticipated. but let's make no mistake. it's fuelled by the cult members who can hear the news coming out of arizona that donald trump lost again. that can hear the news from their family doctors about the safety of covid shots. that can hear the truth about covid, and other issues. about january 6th. but they know the truth. they choose the lies. and donald trump is the one who, of course, is fanning those lies in hopes to benefit from them again. >> first of all, joe, with the results of the other recount, former president trump set a record for the most times losing arizona. congratulations to him. but you were right. >> i guess you could really say, jonathan, this morning that he's sort of the boston red sox. >> he won by losing. >> this is at least the third big recount he's lost there. >> yeah. joe, i feel like we have a lot of red sox talks to get to later. on this serious note, certainly as you say, obvious lies but still dangerous ones and ones that a lot of people are choosing to believe. or at least refusing to face what might actually be the truth. it does seem like right now more than ever before, the concept of truth itself is in debate here in the united states. when it should be inherently not up for debate. where people are choosing to believe conspiracy theories they see on social media or being floated by a politician, whether it's a former president or a sitting republican senator or congressman. that there are -- this is right now a loyalty test and the gop with only a few exceptions. the gop is largely going along with former president trump. now, will that translate to votes for him in 2024 if he runs again? we'll have to see. certainly right now he continues to have a strangle hold on this party, and what is perhaps so dangerous here is not just the fact that the -- he and those close to him are contesting 2020 -- the 2020 election. they're pushing the lie about the 2020 election. they're moving onto 2024, and installing big lie friendly secretaries of state in various states across the country. republican state legislatures changing voting laws, restricting access to the ballot. it's about 2020, but really, joe, right now it's about 2024. and laying the groundwork and putting people in place willing to go along with a big lie next time. that the republicans could lose but yet those votes won't be certified and perhaps the real winner won't be put in office. >> well, that's what robert kagen was talking about also. that the danger is that yes, while the system held in 2020, if you're sitting there wondering why are they changing election laws in states where donald trump won? because they're afraid in 2024 he may not do as well, it may get closer and they may need to steal the election. again, for those of who, again, when you hear about voting reforms. you hear about a lot of the challenges that this country, this democracy is facing, it's so important to look at two phases of what these trump friendly states are doing. the first phase, of course, is put up roadblocks to prevent blocking, especially for black voters and other people of color. but even more frightening than that, for all americans is the fact that they're trying to change the rules on the counting of the votes. one state legislature after another. and trump friendly territory is trying to make it so state legislatures can throw out your vote. if you don't vote for donald trump, if they don't like what your community does. if they don't like what your precinct does. if they don't like what your state does, these republican legislatures that are trumpist are now passing legislation that takes the power away from election officials. it takes the power away from secretary of states. it takes the power away from governors to certify election votes that are straightforward. all of this is happening. let's start telling the truth. you see the people behind donald trump? they're the people fueling this. every bit as much as donald trump. they're the ones preferring the lies and going to the conspiracy sites. they're the ones that are getting their information instead of from the associated press or routers or the bbc, they're getting it from chinese religious cults that start websites in america to expand their reach. and then they go oh, we can't trust. we can't trust the ap. we can't trust the mainstream media. oh, but here's some information from the chinese religious cult. what do you think about that? and that's the insanity. that's the insanity that we live in. we need to stop looking at trump and these images and start looking at the people behind him who know the truth but would rather live in a lie. would rather live in a lie. they're living in a lie every day. every day that they continue to talk about bamboo and voting ballots. every day they reinforce donald trump's lies about arizona. every day they reinforce his lies about georgia. every day they reinforce his lies about rigged elections. they are the threat to american democracy. >> now, here's some of robert kagen's column that you mentioned. the piece is entitled "our constitutional crisis is already here". he writes the united states is heading into its greatest political and constitutional crisis since the civil war. with a reasonable chance over the next three to four years of incidents of mass violence, a breakdown of federal authority, and the division of the country into warring red and blue enclaves. the founders did not foresee the trump phenomenon. in part, because they did not foresee national parties. they anticipated the threat of a demagogue but not of a national cultive personality. we're already in a constitutional crisis. the destruction of democracy might not come until november 2024 j but critical steps in that direction are happening now. in a little more than a year, it may become impossible to pass legislation to protect the electoral process in 2024. one wonders whether modern american politicians in either party have it in them to make such bold moves. whether they might have the insight to see where events are going, and the courage to do whatever it is necessary to save the democratic system. if that means political suicide for this handful of republicans, wouldn't it be better to go out fighting for democracy than to shrink off quietly into the night? that's the question, joe, and there's a lot of people i know who still have the trump campaign and trump fundraisers sending them text messages, begging for money for his run for election or whatever it might be. they're out there, and it's those people you're talking about that are still going to his rallies and still texting you, that still hide behind what clearly are lies but are comfortable places to be to have an argument. >> wealthy group of supporters, too. again, those lazy stereo types written about, about that all of donald trump supporter are just uneducated working class people. no. no. it's just -- that's just a lie. a lot of them are wealthy, upper middle class people who have the best college degrees that one could get. and they're the ones that are spreading those lies. choosing to spread those lies. choosing ill liberalism over american democracy. turning their back on everything they were taught growing up in school. believing that democracy is not legitimate. an election is not valid unless you like the result. unless you like the outcome. you do wonder where their patriotism got tossed aside and their view got so twisted that they're supporting the throwing out of a presidential election, but it's happened. jonathan lamire, it was the line from kagen's essay where he says the founding fathers foresaw the threat of national parties but never foresaw the rise of a leader of a personality cult. that's really what we have here. and while kagan talks about what republicans need to do, a handful of republicans, this really does come down to the fact that democrats have the votes. democrats have the votes to actually pass legislation that will stop state legislators from stealing the election, from stealing the election. their intent my good friend, joe manchin, and kiersten cinema, their intent is to steal the election. you can see the clear intent written on that legislation. if mitch mcconnell believes there should be an exemption for the filibuster for one of the most important things that the senate does, and that is confirming supreme court justices, there can't be a filibuster from saving american democracy? for voting rights laws, for civil rights laws? i guess -- i guess the question in washington has been for some time now, jonathan, will the democratic party have the courage to count to 50? to stop these schemes? for stealing elections and destroying american democracy? will they have the courage to count to 50 and do what republicans would do in a new york second? >> the question is if not now, when? the states couldn't be -- stakes couldn't be higher. there's going to be so much scrutiny this week on capitol hill and the democrats here. we're facing a looming government shutdown. there's the fight over the debt ceiling and this is the week where president biden's two-part agenda is likely voted upon in capitol hill. democrats are not sure they can keep their party together to get them done. certainly not at the current size. there's going to be a long week and lots of twists and turns ahead. but while that has dominated the oxygen, yes, in the background have been other looming fights. and no bigger than the one other voting rights that so many democrats feel like should be front and center. this should be job number one for this white house to say why haven't you made this the priority? not only is it endangering our chances of winning elections next year and losing potentially both houses of congress during the midterms but also disenfranchising huge portions of the democratic party, and certainly putting 2024 up for grabs as we see the republican state legislatures restricting access to the ballot. that's all about the filibuster. many democrats feel the white house is listening. you need to get this done. some sort of adjustment, modification, elimination of the filibuster who focus on this. maybe even only this. maybe that exemption as you said on voting rights. but they say you have to do this. it has to be a priority. and yes, but there are some democratic senators, the moderates manchin and cinema and others a little quieter about it who will be reluctant to do so. that's going to be the test for this president. as much as we're going to look at them this week to twist arms and control members of his party to get his agenda done down the road, he's going to need the do the same to convince them to adjust the filibuster. educators in new york city won't be mandated to take the covid vaccine, at least not yet. the latest on the ongoing battle over plans to compel public school employees to take the shot. 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>> so what we'll see after what we've already seen, mika, in terms of this injunction being granted is that the next court, the next level up, the court of appeals essentially, there's a panel of judges that will look at the decision on an expedited basis as per the decisions of the previous judge who made the call on the first appeal. and that person or that panel of judges, rather, they will decide whether this is going to stop right where it is, which i suspect it will, and whether the mandate will go forward or whether the mandate, in fact, is not legal. in which case, we'll likely see another appeal and that being taken higher if the next court decides to grant review. but it is not dead in the water. this is simply something that has been kicked down the road, and we're going to see this being reviewed in a matter of days likely before the week is over. >> so charles, why did the judge step in and allow this injunction to stop in effect what new york city says it needs to do to protect children? >> well, joe, one of the interesting things that i found in terms of reviewing the doe and some of the statements after the decision was made is they'd say now there's an opportunity to present more of the facts and say more. i found that to be very strange, especially when i looked at the pleadings from both parties and the reason i say that is a large part of why i think this decision may have come down the way that it did was about framing. i don't think they necessarily made the connection they needed to from a legal perspective to make it a matter of public health in terms of why they are mandating the vaccine for its teachers. because we know that the vaccine can prevent you from having extreme symptoms when it comes to covid. we know you can contract and spread covid even if you are vaccinated. so i think that when reading the pleadings, it didn't necessarily make the strongest case for the rationale -- using the rationale that they were attempting to advance in order to get to the conclusion that they wanted. the conclusion being well, this is a matter of public health, a matter of protecting our students and protecting our other teacher from each other, but not necessarily laying that out as clearly as needed to be in order to institute a mass mandate for all doe employees. >> thank you so much. coming up, angela merkel is stepping down as chairman chance lar. but that doesn't mean she's leaving office right away. matt bradley joins us from berlin when "morning joe" comes right back. this is the new world of work. each day looks different than the last. but whatever work becomes... the servicenow platform will make it just, flow. whether it's finding ways to help you serve your customers, orchestrating a safe return to the office... wait. an office? 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>> hey. yes, i was actually talking about with jonathan a while ago. if you squint, this kind of looks like a big change of government. the results from yesterday's election, but if you'll allow me to pour some cold water on that for a moment, what we're seeing is germans voting really for continuity. for one thing, the head of the social democratic party, that's the one who really just eked out a minor victory over angela merkel's christian democrats yesterday, he is already in the government. he's already the deputy chancellor to angela merkel and there's going to be some really long negotiations that are going to go into forming a coalition government. we have an early glimpse of what's going on. it's not free. inside these parties, trying to come to a coalition, and only then that could take as long as six months. only then will we know who will be germany's next chancellor. and again, it's going to be a coalition government. that means it's going to look a lot like the current government. they're going to be bonding together, aligning together all the parties across the political spectrum. right now some of the smaller parties are in position to be king makers. the greens, the ecological party on the left. they're probably going to be in whatever coalition comes out of this along with a sort of centrist libertarian party. they don't sound similar. really, whatever is going to happen is going to be about continuity about this government looking similar from the outgoing one led by angela merkel. she, this chancellor, has been around for 16 years and stewarded this country through so many crises. she's also been a stabilizing force for four very different u.s. presidents. >> germany's elections yesterday were unlike anything we've seen in over a decade. for the first time in 16 years angela merkel will no longer be chancellor. >> it's going to be first a shock to the system to lose a pretty popular centrist chancellor who has sheparded germany through a lot of crises when others were not doing so well. merkel steered jeremy through multiple economic disputes. >> russian aggression, the rise of germany's much-feared far right. a global pandemic, and four very different american presidents. she managed to reset jeremy's relationship with george w. bush, poisoned by her predecessor's refusal to participate in the iraq war. >> in texas when you invite somebody to your home, it's an expression of warmth and respect. that's how i feel about chancellor merkel. >> reporter: but bush's warmth and respect often came off as cloiing. the moment that seemed to um up their odd relationship, a back rub at a summit. eventually they were both able to laugh it off. >> no back rubs. >> it was in barack obama that merkel found a true partner. even after it was uncovered the u.s. spied on her phone. though merkel never shared obama's soaring rhetorical style, their mutual admiration was as much personal as professional. >> that's my friend chancellor merkel. >> that's where merkel's american honeymoon ended. donald trump was openly hostile to a leader to championed global institutions and openedrefugees. >> and you know what a disaster it has been to the people of jeremy. >> reporter: he famously refused to shake her hand. a legacy that merkel's successor may need. the challenges merkel faced still persist. >> angela merkel has had a very successful legacy of resolving problems but not solving them. most of the big crisis issues that she managed to resolve for the moment during her tenure are still there. whoever follows her is left with a lot of unsolved very dramatic issues. >> coming up, the brightest night on broadway. we'll break down the big winners from the tony awards. next on "morning joe." need your prescription refilled? 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probably not. >> reporter: alex tells all natural dog treat mix. right now everything from his silicone treat moedle to the jars for his pupsicle mix are getting stuck in transit. >> maybe four or five months ago, it would have taken 45 days to get here. now, you know, it could be 60. it could be as much as 90. >> with no end to the delays in sight, alex is now ordering all of his holiday inventory as early as possible. >> i have people with small businesses. everything is slowed down. we're all doing the best we can. >> reporter: experts say consumers should make sure they're stocked up on all the essentials at home. and make a plan to order holiday gifts as soon as possible. >> if you have something in mind this holiday season for a family member or a child, go ahead and secure that now. do not wait. chances are that it won't be available in the store after black friday. >> tom costello with that report. now to the tony awards which returned last night to celebrate the best on broadway. the shows and performers up for honors were the productions running last year right before theaters shut down because of the pandemic. moulin rouge, an adaptation came away with best musical and nine other awards. the second highest statue count for a musical ever. the inheritance won for best play, and a soldier's play won for best play revival. best actor in a musical went to erintuvae. aid ran warren took home best actress in a musical for the tina turner musical. mary louise won the top performance awards far play. joining us now to talk more about the tony's, host of on stage on spectrum news new york one, frank. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> some of the other big standouts that won last night. >> danny berstein nominated over the years for i believe seven tonys won last night. he had covid, and his wife, a tony nominee herself, passed away from als in december. he finally got his due and it was exciting to see that moment on stage. >> and some of the acting awards. what stood out to you for best actress in a leading role in a musical? adrian warren, best actress in a leading role in a play, mary louise parker. >> adrian warren gave a stunning performance. he was up for an award in 2019 in london. did not receive the award. this was a moment, and her speech was so moving. you know, she thanked her family, but she also said you know, the theater community, the broadway community needs to have a reset. more stories need to be told for folks. and she's been at the forefront of this movement for a very long time, pre the pandemic. watching her finally receive this reward for this beautiful performance as tina turner was pretty amazing. >> so what other notable moments stood out to you, especially in terms of sort of reviving broadway and the energy around it and getting it back on track? i mean, first of all, just the tony awards event last night, how did it go overall as an event? and did it do anything to help sort of start getting broadway where it wants to be once again? >> absolutely. i spoke to a lot of folks on the red carpet before the show. everyone told me that this is a moment. you know, this is a sign. this is a symbol to the world that broadway is back. we are vaxed. we wear masks in the theater. and as you can see in the audience last night, everyone had their masks on. only two at a time were allowed on stage in terms of accepting the award. so this was a moment for the world to see that broadway is back, and it's coming back in full force. >> frank, you know better than most just what broadway means to new york city. it's in many ways the beating heart of this town. give us an update where things stand. you mentioned the vaccines and masks. what are we seeing in terms of capacity and attendance. are the crowds there? and also going forward. just talk a little bit about what a landmark, a moment this is to have this tony award. another one in a few months. about what it means for broadway's revival. >> absolutely. i've been going to the theater pretty much every night for the past couple weeks since broadway has come back. i was just at "wicked" the second night they were back. the audience was packed. people were giving standing ovations to every single person. they were getting entrance applauses. this is a moment. like you mentioned, broadway is the beating heart of new york city. and i always say i've been covering the community throughout this entire pandemic. until broadway comes back, new york city is not back, and we're seeing shows every week. moulin rouge which just won ten tony awards last night, finally came back on friday, september 24th. every week we're seeing shows reopen which is exciting. and yeah. go get a ticket to a broadway show and support this community. >> that's great. >> will do. >> host of on stage for new york one, frank. thank you so much for being on this morning. we appreciate we appreciate it. meanwhile, david burns, american utopia was honored with a special tony award last night which were presented to outstanding productions that did not fall into any of the competitive categories at the awards show. the talking heads front man also performed the 1982 classic "burning down the house." and naturally brought down the house. joe recently sat down with david for a wide ranging conversation touching on everything from performing on broadway during a pandemic to remaining optimistic in challenging political times. >> so what's been the biggest challenge so far with the relaunch? do you expect to have the same sort of show, the same sort of engagement, the same sort of connection with your audience as you did pre-pandemic? >> some things will be different. the audience will be masked so i think if there's laughter or cheering or shouting it will be very muffled. >> there will still be laughter and cheering. you know, when i saw the movie during the pandemic i sat there and i thought, my god, if this hadn't been written before covid, david would have had to write this after covid because so much of it, of course, has to do with the human connectivity and all of the things that we've lost over the past year and a half that so many americans, the people across the world have lost. have you looked back at the show and thought, my god, after the last year and a half this is actually more timely than ever before? >> yeah, i don't want to brag, but i have looked back at the script and that's exactly what i thought. i thought, oh, my god, we just lived through that. yeah. in the things that i say there's references to, yes, human connection, connecting with other people, how for someone who was very, very shy, that was kind of a learning curve, that was a journey for me, and then you have -- we deal -- we talk about black lives matter, people have been murdered, we talk about voting. wow. yes, all this stuff kind of really came to the fore during the pandemic. so i'm going to have to adjust what i say a little bit, but a lot of it still holds very true. >> i found so many of your arguments so compelling -- not arguments, but discussions during the show -- so compelling on politics and getting involved and i love that you actually focused on local elections because people don't understand how important local elections are. only 20%, as you said in the show, seem to participate in there, most of them are older. talk about how important it is and how much you're going to be talking about that moving forward for people to get involved, get registered, vote, make a difference. >> well, okay. we like to think of ourselves as a democracy and one part of being a democracy, it's not the only part, but one part is that we as citizens get to elect and vote and choose our representatives, but when only 20% of us show up to make that choice, which is in the case of a lot of local elections, then it seems like what kind of democracy is this? 20% deciding who will represent 100%, that's not really democracy. we've got to get everybody out there. everybody who is registered to vote needs to show up to help make these choices because it's not something that everybody in the world can do. we worked very hard to get to this position and it's a hard thing to continue. i mean, there's always efforts at voter suppression, they have never ended, but as long as we can keep being engaged, then we can kind of resist that and be -- find that we hope -- the goal is that our representatives truly do represent what we would like. >> i have had people ask me at times what i do and i said, well, i spent most of my adult life telling people everybody was going to be okay. when democrats win i have to tell my republican friends we have a democracy, we have two years, we are going to be okay. when republicans win i tell my democratic friends the same thing. that shtick has grown a little stale over the past two or three years and i have found myself at times not able to deliver the message i've delivered to friends and family for the past 30 years. and yet in your -- in this visually dazzling just spectacular show that you put on, you choose at the end to strip everything down and basically go a cappella and talk about hope and you talk about one fine day, that things can get better. so let me ask you, how do you remain optimistic and are you still as optimistic today as you were a few years ago? >> i think like a lot of us, and this includes people from all parts of the political spectrum, i wake up and read the papers and i get kind of angry and annoyed and anxious and frustrated, all that sort of thing, just like anybody else. but i've also made an effort to try and hold on to some kind of hope that parts of us are -- things are improving in some ways and in some sections. we have -- we have a bias towards negative news. we just focus on it. if there's negative news out there, it's more popular, it gets passed around more often, and yet there are positive things going on. that's not to say that everything is going to be all right and we don't have to do anything, but there is cause for hope and we are maybe better than we think we are. >> david byrne's "american utopia" is currently playing at the st. james theater through march of next year. and be sure to catch more of joe's interview with david on his new podcast. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage after a final short break. s up the coverage after a final short break. vo: just getting by, it's an ongoing struggle. that's why president biden and democrats in congress have a plan to lower costs for america's working families. lower costs of healthcare premiums and the price of prescription drugs. pay less for electric bills . we are the next. the next generation of visionaries. rule breakers. game changers. and world beaters. we certainly aren't here to do what's been done before. and neither are we. at palo alto networks, we are ready to secure our digital future. we innovate to outpace cyberthreats. so you can make the next day safer than the one before. we've got next. ♪ feel stuck with credit card debt? 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