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last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening rachel and i know you reported on this lawsuit that donald trump has filed today, i guess mary trump in the new york times. i'm just looking at mary trump's comment, because the article reporting it says the times did not immediate response for comment, and right above it is mary trump's comment. and i can say it on tv. >> yet you can't say it on tv, there's part of it you can't say it on tv. >> i think he is an f and you lose or, he probably wants to say loser, i don't know, it won't be exactly the same words. >> lawrence can i just tell you one line -- i literally was just handed a lawsuit, i saw the daily beast report in, we reported on that, and i just got the lawsuit during the commercial break, but on page one, it says is offended's action were motivated by personal vendetta and their desire to gained fame notoriety and a claim and a financial windfall. and we're further intended to advance their political agenda. and it says this, the breaks in the midst of the defendants actions cannot be understated. cannot be understated, wait a minute, cannot be understated. >> impossible to rewrite, rachel, do not try to rewrite art. do not. >> it's page one of the lawsuit, cannot be understated. how can you not understate. i'm sorry. >> he has the lawyers who think the way he does. >> yes and who apparently -- i don't know never mind, i will not speculate. >> donald trump and his lawyers went to the same word school. only the best. thank you rachel. well donald trump is also the subject of a criminal investigation, by district attorney in fulton county georgia mr. williams whose has been presenting evidence to a jury, about possible fraud, and possibly others because a phone calls that both donald trump and lucy graham made to georgia's republican secretary of state. brad raffensperger after joe biden has been declared the winner of the presidential election. tonight chris hayes asked brad raffensperger about that criminal investigation, of donald trump. >> they've already interviewed several staff members and also we've sent documents. so we fully intend to comply with that and i don't know what her paste is for that. >> on friday donald trump sent a letter to georgia secretary of state, the literally reads like donald trump's defense. in the criminal investigation, and the tierney is conducting as election fraud in georgia. the article includes a trump supporting monologue that is called the georgia star news. the article claims that there were technical violations of the chain of custody rules for ballots that were connected from drop in georgia because, the signatures of election officials in the chain of custody were not signed fast enough. by the election officials who delivered encountered those ballots. donald trump and those criminal defense lawyers clearly want district attorney to consider how claims about chain of custody or ballots, might be enough to establish reasonable doubt with a criminal trial jury about whether or not donald trump was actually engaging in criminal voter fraud. and in his phone call with brad raffensperger defined him more vote. >> donald trump's new elected to the georgia secretary of state asked the secretary of state to quote, start the process of de-certifying the election or whatever the correct legal remedy is, and announced the true winner. the letter goes on to call president joe biden quote, an illegitimate president. leading off our discussion tonight is lauren groh-wargo ceo of verified action. she manage the sheer road -- in georgia. i want to have you on tonight because i knew it brad raffensperger was going to be on with chris hayes at 8:00 as he was. and i wanted to get your reaction to what you heard from the secretary of state earlier tonight. >> well i think it's quite interesting lawrence that our secretary of state finds himself on msnbc tonight to sell a book, the liberals really looking for an answer in the republican party on their authoritarian. but we got a larger problem here with brad raffensperger and it goes to kind of larger problem. is that they have been encouraging that narrative that entire time. and so i and many others are glad that the secretary of state did the right, think the election is over, joe biden won, we checked the vote multiple times, and we had a runoff, she won, despite their best. effort and the problem we are seeing there in georgia, is that while our ex district attorney goes after this massive crime, that was attempted here in georgia, at the same time we're seeing brad raffensperger and his republican allies use anti democratic elections sub version permissions, in the bill de championed earlier this year. the drunken over the democratic city in the state, in fact just last week brad raffensperger was threatening the fulton county board of commissioners, to start the largest county in the state, and said if they did not appoint somebody he liked, for the county board of elections, that he would've taken them over. there are 20 bills, lawrence, that have passed in 13 states around the country, including. georgia that are meant to take power away from election officials, and move it to gerrymander republican state legislations, another an elective political bodies. because they have taken the big lie, they have taken the drop boxes and early votes and vote by mail that everybody used to be using any levels. and they are weaponizing all those voters, we were stripped of all of that access, and shipped election of power. so brad was thinking integrity, counts he needs to not try and take over a local county that had the best early vote. the most dropbox in the state. and focus on cleaning his republican party that is so this informed that are appealing to the magnets at all costs. it's really not okay. so don't buy this book, that's all i want to say. don't spend your money on brad 's book. going at the freedom to vote act passed. >> i was struck by one exchange that chris had with him, when he was asking him about mail-in voting, and why you would make changing to mail-in voting. and he absolutely never answer the question, it's not worth showing the video of it because he just wondered off without ever coming back to and referring in anyway, to why you would make changes to mail-in voting after mail-in voting was so successful in georgia. >> well i think you just nailed, and i thought chris did a really great job in that interview, i mean it wasn't that long ago that rudy giuliani, and republican leader of the state of georgia, invited julia down for two different voter fraud election integrity hearings. in december in the. stay weeks before the election. and there are like through the vote trying to kick 360,000 georges off the roll. and what's the problematic thing about brad raffensperger lying about integrity. all of the voter fraud lies, that giuliani and the republican spewed and the decembers, that caused election officials to get threat, that calls legislators to get that, all of those lies god transmitted into this massive bill in georgia. and then copycat it in arizona, texas, florida, ohio. and it all goes back to the big lie. so if they want to fight disinformation, they need to fight their own party, and not tender and tell the truth. >> lauren thank you very much for starting off our discussion tonight i really appreciated. and joining us now is neal katyal legal contributor, neil thank you very much for joining us, as i read this donald trump letter to the secretary of state, now this is interesting, the subject of a criminal election fraud investigation in georgia. because of his communication with the secretary of state, it is not communicating with the secretary of state but he's doing it publicly in no way that the district attorney can see. it took me as a version of a defense tech. we've got stuff like this, that we can bring in to try and establish that donald trump as a legitimate reason to believe in his phone call with brad raffensperger that the vote count in georgia was wrong. >> so lawrence i think that gives donald trump to much credit that this is some sort of legal strategy, i don't think it's any legal strategy, i think we know what's going on here. donald trump was just demanding but the secretary of state of georgia announced that he is president and at a note that was a thing. this move is about as effective as axing a grandpa to look at his own shadow and declare that the apprentice won an enemy. it's a dead loser every day of the. we but i do think that what this other shows is a bigger part of a narrative, that really came pretty close last fall to a coup. you know we now know, reporting from yesterday that one of the lawyers had a six point plan to try and have pence hijack what was happening on january six. but for a few votes in the current risk, you know, he could've succeeded to. but for brad raffensperger doing the right thing, he could've succeeded. and that is a very worrisome thing to complain. >> yeah i think one of the things we discovered in the process, in that election process and aftermath, is that things that we thought were institutional, or were actual guardrails, were actually just people, it was really depends on what this person decided to do. and secretary of state brad raffensperger is a really interesting case study. because he had no doubt about what the correct thing to do. was and november december and january, absolutely no doubt. we have no doubt one him and his team were taping that phone call with donald trump. which they then made public, they made that phone call public. but now he is filled without about the election process that he protected and you just wonder if that very same person was to be presented with the same circumstances and the next presidential election, what would that person do now that he is felt the wrath of donald trump, and most importantly donald trump voter who's been threatening his families. and all sorts of other. things >> it such a beautiful point lawrence, because you're right that we can discovered that in the end it's just people that prevent apocalypse. that is the heart of our constitutional system. so james madison, on the federal people says, laws just a mere parchment barrier, what makes america america, is not the words of law, or even the constitution. those are all important. but those are an embodiment to what's in hard. and if you corrupt the hard. you corrupt the entire system of checks and balances. and that's where donald trump is so devastating, and i know your readers, your viewers are also always talking about this war we coming on the tonight staying up talking about. this is not because of politics, people can disagree about tax policy or whatever, it's because at its corner is donald trump's anti-american. and you know sometimes i wonder how is it that republicans are so gullible to believe this big lie stuff that i remember, oh that's what's going on. >> this also reporting today that the trump campaign they did the research that there was absolutely nothing in the claims that there was something going on voting machines, and we've seen trump lawyers all they're already being sanction where they brought these lawsuits, and clearly in their way to disbarment permit. he's already suspended but clearly on his way to permanent disbarment. and you also have this massive libel case -- defamation case against these people and this new information makes this case already it seems kind of solidly in his favor, even more so >> donald trump handpicked a bunch of lawyers like giuliani, powell, who told him what he wanted to hear. the striking thing as he couldn't even handpick enough lawyers to believe his big lie. that's what this new story and reporting indicates. the trump campaign itself knew this voting stuff was all cockamamie. so, you know, i think it's all to be introduced in the litigation. it's more than two wins and a lawsuit at the end of the day. it's the fundamental anti-american despicable allying president that we have before. this is not about politics. it's got to be about truth, justice, the american way. >> as that lawsuit goes forward, presumably it be all sorts of procedural delays the trump supporting side can try to do. and a civil litigation has a lot of them. it seems we are constantly going to have, through the discovery process of that lawsuit, more and more information like that come up. >> 100%. drip, drip, drip. continue and continue. so far, not a single document that i'm aware of has ever come out of this discovery, or in these investigations of the attorneys or anything that escapades has donald trump and his lawyers were actually innocent. everything, so far, points in the same direction. >> i want to get a quick word from you about donald trump's lawsuit against his niece, mary trump. and the new york times, reporters where he's alleging this lawsuit. the new york times convinced and somehow, you know, mind controlled mary trump into providing donald trump's tax information. >> i'm going to go out on a limb and say this isn't going anywhere. in no, one thing, if you really believe this, donald trump, why wait an entire year before suing? he's complaining about stuff that happened a year ago. if the harm is so great, he'd wait until now. the big problem something trump hasn't, read the first amendment, freedom of press. good luck donald trump, challenging that, and suing the new york times. this one, i think we know the results already. >> thank you very much for joining us tonight. coming up, the biden infrastructure bill is now all up to joe biden. katie porter joins us next. er joins us next e brainy on tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. 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build consensus around his build back better infrastructure, and social spending packages. joining us now, democratic congresswoman katie porter of california. a member of the house oversight committee. congresswoman porter, thank you for joining us tonight. but time as you're meeting with joe biden tomorrow? >> well, i have not yet been invited, but i am hopeful that the president is going to continue to do the good work he's done. reminding people what this is about as not democrats or republicans or progressives or moderates, it's about the american people. it's about the kind of economy and want to have been for years to come. >> as you've discovered now, and your experience working with the president of your own party, the people who get the meetings are the ones who caused the problems. the more problems you create and the movement of legislation, the more often you will be brought into the white house for discussions. that will be part of the focus of what the president is doing tomorrow in trying, it seems he is trying to, correct me if i'm wrong, hold the democratic party together in the house and senate on both of these bills? >> i think that's right. i think it's complicated by the fact it's not just about the house democrats, it's about the senate democrats, the senate republicans. where we sit is that the house has done the work through its committees, putting forward a plan to put the presidents build back better agenda into legislation. would we keep hearing is the senate is not going to support that, it's not going to pass. that the onus is on them to look their constituents in the eye, to tell the american people what they are willing to go without. should we go without childcare support at a time when women's workforce participation is at a 30-year low? should we go with that clean energy initiatives at a time when wildfires are burning throughout california and other states because of climate change? go without free community college even though college costs are swamping middle class families, and holding back a generation from achieving education? the burden is on the senate to come up with its package show the house can begin to negotiate. >> i expected the kind of discussions we are having now, the kinds of problems, challenges the democrats are having now to have been at the beginning of the process. that's where they are supposed to be. at this end of the process, this is when the agreements are supposed to have already been reached. i remember the day joe biden went up to the united states senate and went to their policy lunch. all of the democratic senators agreed with joe biden on the bipartisan infrastructure bill that had just been negotiated, ure bill which included republican support in the senate, and the reconciliation bill. they all agreed on that, that they. and that surprised me. i thought that's when you hear people say i'm not ready and i have to see more and all those comments you see at the early stage. at the early stage, it was total agreement. what happened to that? >> i think it's a great point, lawrence. we are in agreement. this is the presidents agenda and democrats support the president. the agenda he ran on, the agenda he was elected on. it's the agenda every member of the house swore up every two years. we were all elected with this president. we should be supporting this agenda. the reason you are not hearing disagreement in those early stages is the policies, the things, the help coming from the american people, are all really good, very well thought out, important policies that will set our economy up for years to come. to be strong, stable, and globally competitive. you saw that early agreement because of the strength of the kinds of policies that are in this budget reconciliation bill. now, for people to throw up their hands and say, i don't know. you do know. you know what your constituents need. you know they need you to address climate change, address roads, bridges, infrastructure. address the cost of childcare and college. this is what's in this plan. this is why all the democrats initially supported it. we now need to deliver for the american people. >> as this bill paid for in a way that satisfies you? do you consider this bill paid for? >> we have a big chunk of it paid for. i think there is more that we could do to raise revenue. if that is the concern that's holding people back, i think they need to know a lot of us who support this bill are willing to pay for it. a big chunk of it is paid for, we worked hard in the house to identify ways to raise revenue by eliminating special interest loopholes in our tax, code coming up with a more fair system of global tax enforcement, that is fair for u.s. companies and foreign companies. we can pay for as much of this as we want to. i stand ready and willing to do that. there is big pieces including lowering the price of prescription drugs, which is not only good policy, but would also help us pay for the investment in health care, including providing dental, hearing, and vision for medicare beneficiaries, lowering the age of medicare eligibility to 60. we need to put that piece back in the bill to lower the price of prescription drugs. because we ran on, it is good policy, it's a real problem for the american people, and because it would help us pay for the changes and improvements to health care we want to make. >> you run for election in orange county. you converted a republican seat to a democratic seat. you obviously know how to talk to republican voters, and you know how to deal with that dynamic in your district, which not all democrats do. they don't all have mixed districts the way you do. you also struck me as someone who knows how to talk to the people who are now being labeled moderates in the house, who feel they want to go slower on the reconciliation side. go smaller on the reconciliation side. how does your dialogue go with those people? >> the question to put to these conservative democrats, and i've had these conversations, including tonight, is what do you want to cut? tell me do your constituents not have trouble paying for childcare? all your constituents not worried about climate change? are your constituents not in need of roads and bridges? do your constituents not struggled to pay for the price of prescription drugs? the answer is always, yes, of course. the answer is clear, you should support these things. when you ask them, when you really put these conservative democrats, do you not thing these things are problems? do not hear from your constituents this is the agenda they want, that they support the presidents agenda? they often are speechless. they know it's true. they know this is what their constituents need. they simply have very big objections, often based on some sense of what is and isn't possible. i want to be clear, lawrence, the people of this country elected each one of us, democrat or republican, to make better policy in their lives possible. it's up to us. what is possible is defined by what we are willing to do to deliver for the families who sent us to washington. >> i want to go inside this conversation for a moment, for the audience. the way you described them sounds kind of confrontational, and frankly more confrontational than what i was used to and i was working there and i saw people trying to pull people in their direction. how would you describe them in terms of confrontational or cooperative? or supportive? are you trying to support someone, to find his way or her way to voting the way you want them to vote? i don't think people in the audience really have a feel for how these conversations go. >> they are very pleasant. i had a terrific conversation tonight with one of the conservative democrats who signed the letter to the speaker about the bipartisan infrastructure bill. i said, you know, i support the bipartisan infrastructure bill. know, i can't wait to vote to dr infrastructure to the american people. he said i am so happy to hear that! i said can a count on you to vote to deliver help with health care, with senior care, with childcare? with climate change? college costs? ten i count on you to help deliver those things to the american people? the answer was -- i think that's a positive way to say the conversation is that we are all in for doing infrastructure. that's what the progressive caucus has said from the beginning. we support investment and infrastructure. it's not the only thing we support, we support the other needs of the american people. one way to understand this, those infrastructure jobs, the data tells us that 90% of those infrastructure jobs will go to men. i was elected by men and women. i was elected to think about the entire workforce, not just one sector, or one sex. i was elected to create jobs across our economy. that means i need to be thinking about other kinds of investments beyond infrastructure. yes infrastructure, yes to childcare, 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we need to know. dust needs to clear right here, right now. >> i'm a little concerned about the debt ceiling, lawrence. this is not the first time mitch mcconnell used the debt ceiling as a hostage. he did it during the obama, years said it was all right to do so. that's playing with fire and it's a reflection of the fact republicans are happy to throw the country into chaos if they can gain any political advantage. i'm hoping we can get past that, what mcconnell will do is just say we won't filibuster this. you have to come up with the 50 votes on your own. if, not we could be in a real crisis. i'm more confident of the infrastructure bills moving along. we are going to have this vote on the 27th nancy pelosi promised to the house contingent that insisted this was more important then getting everything done together. remember, if it passes, she doesn't have to send it to the president at anytime. she could hold on to it until they work at other arrangements. i think we are going to find an agreement, ultimately, on an amount less than the 3.5 trillion dollars in the reconciliation package. we can get agreement moving forward. the big concern right now is whether we have a shutdown following something more disastrous than reaching the debt ceiling. and not dealing with a group of rational people who will do the right thing for the country. that is worrisome. >> jonathan alter, how worried are you? >> i'm actually not as worried. we've seen this game of chicken with the debt ceiling so many times before in the last few years. you know, what mitch mcconnell is doing is not surprising. completely appalling. bay around up all this money on the credit card, with this huge tax cut under trump. no they don't want to pay the bill. even though the democrats won the she was on the other foot, the democrats helped trump out the debt ceiling. i think three times in the past. mcconnell is being a hypocrite. but eventually, they will work out something. i think this kind of brinkmanship on the debt ceiling has taught them lessons over the last ten, 15 years that they can only play this game of chicken for so long before they finally have to deal with it. i am more worried, actually, unlike norm who does know a tremendous amount about all of this more than any american. i am more worried about what's the final details of the reconciliation bill will be and what the amount will be. it will pass eventually, because democrats aren't going to destroy the president of their party with no bill. that's quite unlikely. how it will all end up is still very unclear. will they cut a trillion from the 3.5 trillion? 1.5 trillion from the 3.5 trillion? you know, as was said, abilene here, a billion there, you're talking about real money. know that applies to trillions of dollars which are on the line. huge chunks of american society and the american economy that are on the line in the sausage making going on. which now has a lot of gristle and hearing it. >> norm, i was struck when senate parliamentarian elizabeth mcdonald's advisory ruling leaked out, where she was saying, of course you cannot put major new immigration law into a reconciliation package. according to the rules of reconciliation, she doesn't say you can't do it, she says her interpretation of the rules say you can't do it. and there was all this outrage about the very existence of a senate parliamentarian, get rid of her, put someone in there who would rule the right way. i don't know about you, but i've never disagreed with the ruling of senate parliamentarian. i disagreed with senate rolls a lot, and i've come to completely view both derision the 60 vote threshold, which really should be eliminated. because we have the 60 vote threshold for everything that isn't reconciliation, it puts this enormous pressure on reconciliation to throw in these things that were never designed to be in reconciliation. so, it seems to me the parliamentarians ruling on immigration, if you really want to see that legislation passed, comes down to the 60 vote rule in the senate. the 60 vote threshold that has to be overcome, and should be eliminated. >> you are right, lawrence. the parliamentarian looks at what the rules are under reconciliation, and she is right. this is a major legislative action where the budgetary impact is a more minor element. it's only there because they can't get comprehensive immigration reform done through the normal process. they can't do that, nor can they do voting rights election reform unless the rule changes regarding the filibuster. everything gets jammed into reconciliation because it's the only train leaving the station with 50 votes. that's got to, change its got to change soon. >> norm ornstein, jonathan alter, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, how is the air conditioning in your workplace? 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