Witness the huge crowds converging, ready to make themselves heard. That reporter from the l. A. Times was able to capture the scene as we closed in on that noon witching hour. He captured the scene this way at 11 33 a. M. Yeah. That was it. And this isnt just like a shot that was taken in the wrong direction or a shot taken of the sidelines. See what were pointing out there . Thats the big screen, and thats the stage. Thats the center of the main event less than a half hour before the whole thing was supposed to kick off. Where is everybody . Now, to be fair, this was 11 33 a. M. Things did fill out a little bit by the time noon actually rolled around. But not by that much. This was as big as the whole thing ever got on saturday. This was around 1 00 p. M. About an hour into it. When there is a big March Or Rally in washington, a big gathering, sometimes News Outlets will use like, you know, Crowd Size experts or aerial views of the crowd or do a bunch of complicated math to try to approximate the size of the crowd. In this case you could just literally just kind of count them all up by hand. Capitol police said in total there were around 400 people or so milling around that site at the front of the Capitol On Saturday but most of the 400 were not actually protesters. If you actually zoom in on the crowd, this is what it looked like. It was a dozen or so people with their cameras, a dozen or so reporters all Pointing Cameras at like one protester because there were many more members of the media at this thing than actual protrump protesters. This guy was counted as two though because of him and his badger. Why wouldnt you count the badger . The Washington Post reported this weekend that the attendance was so small that reporters and Tv Crews actually lined up. They formed little queues pun intended to wait for their turn to interview individual protesters because there just werent enough protesters to go around. The ratio of reporters and photographers to protesters was way too high. Because there were so few people there, there was enough room to have this little impromptu Exercise Class on site at the rally and also enough room for this guy to parade around his dog, which is like, a, a very cute dog, but also appears to be the size of a small horse. He wasnt selling rides. But it was like, dude and his dog. The rally turned out to be such a Nothing Burger that the poor police horses didnt really have anything to do either. It was a nice day for them to be out there. They all seemed to have gotten a little extra Horsey Kibble as a treat. I dont know if you call It Kibble when it comes to horses. I dont know. This rally on Saturday Sort of turned into the easiest possible game of wheres waldo . There was a lot of space. There are literally more people currently being prosecuted for trying to violently overthrow the fast than there were people at this rally arguing that all of those people should be set free. What happened . Did your invitation get lost in the mail . Did you accidentally print the wrong date on the flyers . Did everybody all the thousands and Tens Of Thousands show up in Washington State by accident instead of washington, d. C. , common error, occasionally an expensive one . The sad little Trombone Womp Womp was supposed to be the Triumphant Return Of Trump supporters to washington, d. C. , for the first time since they violently attacked the u. S. Capitol in january in an effort to try to physically stop the Election Results from being certified and thereby to block Joe Biden from becoming president. They all stormed the capitol on January 6th because Donald Trump said the election was stolen from him. This saturday was the Day Trump supporters were going to demand the release of all the people arrested for their alleged roles in that attack back on January 6th. You know, including the people who smashed in the windows of the capitol and beat cops with metal pipes and crutches and Hockey Sticks and sprayed Police Officers with Bear Spray and hit them with stun guns. The point of this rally on saturday was to agitate for all of those people to be freed because obviously theyre just being persecuted for being trump supporters. They didnt do anything wrong. That was the cause around which trump supporters organized this rally on saturday. But, like, no matter the size of the dog it ended up being just like dude and his dog. Saturday ended up being a story of overpreparedness by capitol police, thank god, which is better than the opposite. They did arrest a couple people on outstanding warrants. Somebody else on a weapons charge. But the fencing going back up around the u. S. Capitol and the national guard standing by, turns out, was not what was needed. Man with dog and impromptu Exercise Class notwithstanding, nobody really showed up. That said, the cause is alive. The republican legislators are busy pursuing their own efforts to overturn or try to discredit the president ial Election Results. The republican investigation of the president ial Election Results from wisconsin have now set up their own Youtube Channel to try to make their investigation of the Election Results seem more official. As weve been reporting here over the last couple of weeks, so far this investigation has been conducting its business using a random Gmail Address and fake letterhead they made up. Now theyve got a Youtube Channel. And so wisconsin republicans are trying to make it all seem much more official. Republicans in the Pennsylvania State Senate are going ahead with their review as well, although, now every single democrat in the State Senate has sued the republicans to try to stop them from subpoenaing personal identifying information from every voter in the state of pennsylvania. Pennsylvania republicans again theyre reviewing the Election Results in that state. They wont even say how they are going to investigate the Elections Results or who is going to do the investigation, but, nevertheless, they have subpoenaed from every single voter in pennsylvania your full name, your date of birth, full home address, your email address, your drivers license number, and a portion of your social security number. What are they going to do with all that information . Democrats in the State Senate are now, all of them, suing to try to stop republicans from getting that information on every voter in the state. And, interestingly, two democrats in congress, Mary Gay Scanlon and zoe lofgren, two democratic members of congress, are asking the u. S. Justice department to look at that subpoena and intervene if necessary to head off Voter Intimidation Concerns as to what republicans are going to do with all that personal identifying information from every voter in the state of pennsylvania. The original one of these audits is, of course, The One in arizona. That one is supposed to release its purported findings at The End of the week on friday. Well see. They started this in april and said it would take three weeks. It is officially now late september, so who knows. But they say itll be on friday. With all of this Election Overthrow Energy coursing through the republican party right now, youd think the guy who ginned all this up in the first place would be happy to see it. Happy though he is not. In the wake of nobody showing up for the saturday rally, for the January 6th rioters, former President Donald Trump released a sweary, screaming statement that was a little unhinged even by his standards. Said in part, quote, i have had the same fake b. S. He actually spelled it out. Same Fake Bull going on for years with the Witch Hunt by the new York District attorney and the new York Attorney general Headnevertrumper Lawyer who shockingly works for the d. A. s office. This is unprecedented. Over 3 Million pages of documents have been examined by them. A record fishing expedition. Never trumper lawyers and Law Fifrm firms are used by the d. A. And Attorney General to get trump in their Prosecutorial Misconduct Witch Hunt antitrump political campaigns are viciously waged by them to get elected and they have nothing. W campaigns are viciously waged by them to get elected and they have nothing. Im reading this verbatim. Im sorry it doesnt make sense. Quote, this has been going on for years and the people of our country are not going to take it anymore. Really . Some of that i dont know how to make like make more sense. I dont even know how to punctuate it. It is like Trump Freak out madlibs. And when that happened im not sure anybody really knew what precipitated that freak out from him. Was he sad more people didnt turn out on the mall to get justice for the people who attacked the capitol in his name . Was he sad that nobody turned out . Was that what upset him . Why is he going on about the Witch Hunt and the prosecutorial like where did this come from . Not sure anybody quite knew what to make of that meltdown from the former president until this afternoon. We got the transcript of what happened in Court Today in the criminal trial of his business, the Trump Organization. Youll recall june 30th, trumps business, the Trump Organization, was charged with a string of felonies along with the Chief Financial Officer from the trump business, a man named Allen Weisselberg, who was charged individually. Today was the first day mr. Weisselberg and lawyers for the Trump Organization were back in court following the initial arraignment after charges were first filed in june. Today really should have been kind of a no news hearing. The point of this Hearing Today was basically for the lawyers just to ask for more time to prepare their defense. They did ask the judge for that and they got it. The trial probably wont be until almost a year from now, which is interesting. But in haggling over how much time they could try to get from the judge, the lawyers in the courtroom today, particularly the Defense Counsel for mr. Weisselberg, made quite a bit of news, which may have had the Side Effect of melting down the former president in that statement. Judge for yourself. Here is what happened in Court Today. Defense attorney. Quote, your honor, the law clearly gives the Court Discretion to set a Motion Schedule in the Interest And Fairness of justice and im asking the Court Today to exercise that discretion, to set a Motion Schedule that, one, is not practically impossible for mr. Weisselberg to meet, and, two, that is not patently unfair to his interests. Mr. Weisselberg was indicted only 80 days ago. Since that time we received approximately 3 Million pages of documents. Just today we got 3 Million more pages of documents. Thats over 6 Million pages. Now, to review those in some orderly schedule would still require us to review 25 to 30,000 pages of documents every day, day in and day out, seven days a week. It is very, very difficult to imagine how we can do that. It is a herculean task made all the more difficult by the fact that i know as i sit here today more documents are being produced by various parties. We dont even know what we are shooting at. It is a moving target. Then he says this. Quote, also, we have strong reason to believe there could be other indictments coming. Again, we are shooting at a moving target, so theres a real procedual issue, and i just ask, whats the rush . Okay. Whether or not there is a rush what is that he said at The End . We have strong reason to believe there could be other indictments coming. Really. Why do you believe that . Tell me more . That was the Defense Attorney for the Trump Organizations Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg Speaking Today in court in New York. Now, more indictments coming . Really . Allen weisselberg as the cfo to the Trump Organization and the organization itself, theyre already facing multiple serious Felony Counts in this alleged tax scheme. Now weisselbergs Defense Counsel said in Court Today that he has strong reason to believe more indictments are coming. Again, this is just a scheduling Hearing Today. Youre not supposed to make news like that at a scheduling hearing. But wait. Theres more. And the other part of the news here from this hearing came as the prosecutor was basically trying to refute the argument from the Defense Counsel that there is too much information to get through, that the defense is buried in paperwork. So the prosecutor and the Defense Counsel have an exchange here that leads to another revelation. The prosecutor, quote, there is nothing unusually complex about this case. It is a simple case of executives hiding their compensation in order to avoid tax obligations. The Core Documents that are relevant to these charges were produced on July 1st at the arraignment. The defendants have all been in possession of those records for 80 days at this point. We join in Defense Counsels request for a schedule that is fair and reasonable. I think we differ a little bit on what that means. In response to the arguments made, i would note that Allen Weisselberg is no stranger to these documents. These documents are almost exclusively, the overwhelming majority of these records, are Trump Organization records. Mr. Weisselberg has been with the Trump Organization for 35 years. He is the Chief Financial Officer. While he may not have technical access to certain of the Trump Organization records with respect to relevant financial records mr. Weisselberg is the boss. Mr. Weisselberg is also not an innocent party being caught up as Collateral Damage here. He is an executive who stands accused by a Grand Jury of multiple felonies including Fraud And Tax evasion. It is the peoples right to proceed in our case against him and it is his obligation to abide by the schedule that the court sets. And then the Defense Counsel. Back and forth a little bit with the judge. The Defense Counsel jumps in. Your honor may i give one additional Data Point . The judge. Yes. Briefly. Defense counsel. Thank you. When we were back in your chambers, it was represented to us by the District Attorney this package includes documents that were found in coconspirators basements that are Tax Documents that go directly to the issues. So the statement that all relevant documents were produced 80 days ago just is not accurate. There are additional relevant documents we received 60 days ago, a few weeks ago, and more in here. Holding an envelope while he says it. And this package meaning the documents the defense was just given by the prosecutors today, according to the Defense Counsel he says those are documents found in coconspirators basements. Coconspirators basements, which means presumably were going to get some extra help on this later this hour, but that means presumably that in the ongoing criminal case against Donald Trumps business, against the Trump Organization, Search Warrants are being executed in the basements of various coconspirators that are turning up new Tax Documents relevant to the alleged felonious scheme, Tax Documents even today being handed to the Defense Counsel that are related to the multiple felonies trumps Company And Mr. Weisselberg are already facing. And so, yeah. I guess, you know, Cue Eruption of mount one term. Right . All of this complaining about the millions of documents and the terrible lawyers who are working on this case and how all the misconduct by the prosecutors here. Im assuming that is the cause of that eruption. In The End, as i said, the judge did go along with the request by the defense for more time, which means that former President Trumps company and at least one of his executives are going to have their criminal trial play out in New York in court in like september of next year. Which, of course, will put that trial on the front page and in the Spotlight Right as voters are starting to go to the polls in the midterm elections. In a year when, you know, the republican party unless things turn around sometime soon this will be a year when the republican party stands for nothing so much as its continuing devotion to trump. The criminal trial in which the president s business, his cfo, and maybe additional people or entities are under Felony Indictment for a sprawling, alleged multimillion dollar tax scheme. That should be happening right as everybody goes to vote in the midterms. And this is interesting. Separately, this was a surprise, unrelated indictment that was unveiled tonight. Two fairly well known republicans, a longtime republican activist named Doug Wead, wead, and a man named Jesse Benton, whos long been a senior political staffer in the Ron Paul Rand paul orbit, Doug Wead and Jesse Benton were just indicted in federal Court Today for allegedly funneling illegal foreign donations from a russian national to a republican Party Pac and to the Trump Campaign in 2016. Now, theres no indication the Trump Campaign knew it was receiving these allegedly illegal russian funds during the 2016 campaign through this scheme allegedly carried out by Doug Wead and Jesse Benton. We also dont know who the russian national in question may have been. But Jesse Benton was only just pardoned by Trump In December of 2020. Benton had been convicted in conjunction with what effectively was a Bribery Scheme in the 2012 Iowa Caucuses in the republican president ial primary. Trump pardoned him in december. As politico. Com pointed out tonight, this new indictment just unveiled today charges that Jesse Benton was ginning up this alleged illegal foreign Donation Scheme to funnel illegal russian funds to the Trump Campaign, allegedly doing that, working on that scheme, at the same time he was being sentenced for his earlier conviction. This Indictment Tonight was filed just before the statute of limitations would have expired for these alleged crimes. We dont know at this point the identity of the russian national whose money was allegedly funneled to trump by this scheme, but this was a surprise today, and we will keep our eyes on this one. This was a surprise that revelation in court, that more indictments are coming in the Trump Organization case, the revelation from the Defense Counsel in the Trump Organization case that new documents were just handed over to them, which were seized from someones basement, and they were tack documents related to those crimes. All of this was new to us. So well be watching all of that. You know, meanwhile, away from the continuing Crime Spree surrounding the immediate former president of the united states, the real president , the current president , is busy, planning to speak at the opening of the u. N. General assembly tomorrow. At home in washington, both the House And Senate are in session for the first time since way back in the summer. And its going to be a busy time. Senate democrats say they want to pass their new voting Rights Bill as early as this week. Youll remember that new voting Rights Bill includes rules about the way youre supposed to treat Elections Equipment and records and ballots after the election. Hello, partisan audits being carried out in republican controlled states. The democrats in the senate also have to figure out how theyre going to pass legislation to keep the government funded and also to raise the debt ceiling. Senator Mitch Mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, says republicans will try to block both of those things, which means republicans want the government to default on its debt and they want the government to be forced no a needless shutdown, purely for mean neener neener value. They are not trying to get anything for holding out on those things. They just want that harm to the country because they can. Efforts by democrats to get Immigration Reform tucked into their big 3. 5 trillion infrastructure bill, those efforts we were covering all last week, the request to the Senate Parliamentarian to ask if Immigration Reform could be done in that bill as well that request from the democrats was rebuffed this weekend by a ruling from the Senate Parliamentarian. 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Under arcane senate rules, that means they have to go through the parliamentarian to get everything approved to basically get her permission to include what they want to include in the bill. We have been waiting all last week for an answer from that parliamentarian on whether the Immigration Stuff could be included in the democrats bill. Then this weekend she finally issued her ruling saying the democrats Immigration Proposal as it was presented to her, no, she is not going to let it be put in the bill. Basically said it was too broad and democrats need to go back to the drawing board. Now, even before the parliamentarian issued a ruling this weekend, democrats said that they had other plans, that if she said no, they would not give up, they would not take no for an answer, they would keep revising their Plan And coming up with new proposals until it passed muster with the parliamentarian because they are going to pass something. Today the second Ranking Democrat in the senate, senator dick durbin, reiterated that pledge and issued a joint statement with California Senator Alex padilla which says quote we are deeply disappointed in the Parliamentarians Decision but the fight for Immigration Reform will continue. Senate democrats have prepared an alternative proposal for the Parliamentarians Consideration in the coming days. Senator durbin also told Nbc News that Senate Democrats have a Plan B and a Plan C and a Plan D on putting immigration in the big reconciliation bill. So i have questions. A lot of people do. What is Plan B . Also whats Plan C and whats Plan D . What are these new proposals going to look like . If democrats really are going to not take no for an answer, if they get through this Plan B proposal and it gets rejected and they try Plan C and they try Plan D, could this reach a point where democrats decide to overrule the parliamentarian or replace the parliamentarian, both of which happened before because they care enough about this issue that they are going to get this passed one way or another. Joining us the Senator Alex Padilla from california. He is one of the key figures pushing for Immigration Issues to be included in this bill. Really nice to see you again and thanks for being with us. Thanks for having me. Indeed. Well, talk us through what we should understand about this. It does seem like the parliamentarians ruling was nobodys idea of a sure bet. Weve been assured by senate leadership, by the senate democratic leadership, that there is a Plan B, theres an alternate proposal ready to g back to her. Can you talk us through a little bit how this is going to go . Sure. First and foremost is the parliamentarians ruling we learned of last night disappointing . Absolutely. Does it come as a complete shock . No. Because as you know in our business, you hope for the best, prepare for the worst, so, yes, we have been working on alternative proposals in the ee went we didnt get an initial yes to our first proposal. So Senator Durbin is right. There is a Plan B and if necessary a Plan C or what not but the fundamental goals stay the same. Out of respect to the millions of immigrants that have been living in the united states for years and years and years. Rachel, as you know adult undocumented immigrants have been in the United States On Average for 18 years of working, paying taxes, buying homes, raising families, contributing to the success of our country. They deserve to live without fear of deportation. And so Plan B, Plan C, whatever it takes, were going to keep fighting until we get to yes and provide those protections and security for as many people as possible as quickly as possible. When you say youre going to keep fighting until you get to yes, i think im trying to understand. A lot of people are trying to understand or set reasonable expectations for how this is going to go. I want to ask you about something that reportedly happened today involving Senator Menendez. Today Senator Menendez at an immigrants Rights Group held a Conference Call with reporters where a leader from one immigration Advocacy Group said nobody gets to hide behind the parliamentarian this year. She is not an elected official. She serves at the pleasure of the majority leader. Implying that the pa la parliamentarian, that if she will never get to yes on this issue, that it is the democrats prerogative to replace her with somebody who views these matters differently. Is that within the realm of possibility as far as you are concerned . Differently. Is that within the realm of possibility as far as you are concerned . Look, i dont think were there yet frankly because we have thoughtful, second proposal, third proposal to get to yes as i mentioned and provide the much deserved, well earned protections for millions of people in the united states. So thats what the task is at hand. We got the answer last night from the parliamentarian on the first proposal we went to her with. Clearly the Budget Reconciliation Process and the Infrastructure Package negotiations are not going be finalized in the next couple days. So theres a little bit of time here and were very confident that one of the alternative plans that will be presented in the coming days will meet the threshold and the criterion that the parliamentarian has laid out. So please stay tuned. This is in the process, but we are not giving up the fight. We know how important this is particularly for my Home State of california. I want to make sure i make this point because representative of so many other states, you know, california is home to more immigrants than any other state in the nation. It seems like it is a different topic, a different audience, different Subject Matter when people recognize california as the fifth largest economy in the world, right . If immigrants were a drag on the chi, that wouldnt be the case. California has the strongest economy of any state in the nation because of the contributions of immigrants as a work force, as consumers, as entrepreneurs. And so well continue to evolve the presentation to the parliamentarian to recognize if that is just an it is not just an economic impact but a federal budget impact at the heart of what the Reconciliation Process is all about. Senator padilla, let me also ask you about an issue right now where the time really is short. That is this question of keeping the lights on in the government, keeping the government operating, bumping up against the debt ceiling, which is due to happen within weeks. We are in what appears to be not so much a standoff as essentially a Refusal Sort of Threat Promise from the republican side of the aisle that they not only wont help keep the government funded, they wont vote to fund the government, nor will they vote to raise the debt ceiling, but, in fact, they may filibuster on those issues, which would not only mean republicans arent helping to do those things but blocking democrats from keeping the government going and from defaulting the government from defaulting if we do, are allowed to hit that debt ceiling. How is that going to resolve . Im struck by the fact that the republicans arent making any demands, just saying yeah were going to hit both of those walls and you cant do anything about it. So it sounds like the question is, are we surprised that Mitch Mcconnell and Senate Republicans are playing politics with the Nations Economy and the ability for a government to keep functioning when we start the next fiscal year . Are we shocked and surprised that Mitch Mcconnell and Senate Republicans are being obstructionists once again and trying to box democrats in with their only lens the 2022 election . Of course, not. But we do have some time, ten days or so, have all the confidence in Leader Schumer and Speaker Pelosi for that matter to make sure that we get the agreements done on a timely basis to avoid any damage frankly to american families. Because theyre ultimately the people who get hurt the most if there is another Government Shutdown as there has been in the Past Or Anything else. We will be responsible and get done what needs to be done. I wouldnt want to be a Senate Republican that votes, by the way, against Emergency Funding for the victims of the hurricane in louisiana. I would not want to be a republican that votes against Emergency Funding for victims of flooding in the northeast. And i certainly wouldnt want to be a republican that votes against the necessary urgent funding for victims of wildfires in the west. That is going to be the choice they will have to make. Senator Alex Padilla of california, on the budget committee, chair of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration Citizenship and the border. Sir, thanks for making time to be with us this evening. I know its a Hurley Burly time in the senate. Thanks for helping us understand. Thank you, rachel. One other thing to watch for this week in washington, as promised, with the house back in session, Speaker Nancy Pelosi had said when they came back in session the house would take up the Womens Health Protection act, which is essentially a long Standing Piece of Legislation Sponsored by California Congresswoman Judy Chu that would codify in law the protections for Abortion Rights from roe versus wade. Because of the supreme court allowing a Texas Abortion Ban to go into effect while the house was on recess, Nancy Pelosi said that would come right up as soon as they are back. They are bringing that up in the house right away. The senate will then have to decide if they are also going to pass that legislation, which is going to be a harder thing for them to do in the united states senate, but the timing could not be more urgent on that. This weekend a San Antonio doctor came forward and said that he has deliberately broken that ban. That he provided an abortion after six weeks. That means the legal process has started in terms of the way that challenge is going to go, whether or not actual legislation is passed on Capitol Hill to bolster Abortion Rights, again, another one of these things that could not be more timely. It all really just has to happen all at once. All right. Much more ahead tonight. Stay with us. Court hearings like this one are not usually very exciting. Today if you were like penciling it into your calendar wondering if you should pay attention to it today was technically a scheduling hearing, which means it was a hearing to schedule future hearings, right . Not generally gripping stuff. But then in the middle of todays hearing to schedule more hearings, the Defense Lawyer held up a Manila Envelope in hand in the courtroom and announced it was represented to us by the District Attorney that this package includes documents that were found in coconspirators basements. Tax documents that go directly to the issues. New key documents just handed over to the defense today, documents found in basements, basements, plural, from coconspirators, plural. This is getting more interesting. This court Hearing Today was the first Court Appearance by the top financial executive at Donald Trumps family company. A man named Allen Weisselberg as the first Court Appearance by him since he and the Trump Organization were arraigned this summer. Both he and the Trump Organization are charged with a 15year multi milliondollar Tax Evasion Scheme F you want to boil that down. Weisselberg himself has pled not guilty as have lawyers for mr. Trumps business. As to the question of whether there is going to be more coming from prosecutors in this case, well, that same Defense Counsel who held up the Envelope Today and said these key Tax Documents were just recovered from coconspirators basements, the same counsel also told the Judge Today, quote, we have strong reason to believe there could be other indictments coming. We dont know why mr. Weisselbergs attorney thinks that or who those might apply to. New York Prosecutors have reportedly been investigating other senior Trump Organization executives, but who knows. Whatever is going on right now, the former president appears to be quite upset about it, firing off an incoherent statement this weekend, attacking the manhattan District Attorney by name and the new York Attorney general by name, going after one of the District Attorneys lawyers by name. Objecting to how many documents from his company they have examined. Saying the american people will not stand for this. I think they will. Well see. Joining us now is dan goldman. He is lead counsel for the first House Impeachment Trial into President Trump. Mr. Goldman, its nice to see you. Thanks for making time tonight. Great to be with you, rachel. As you look at these revelations in Court Today, as a nonlawyer, i look at the assertion that new evidence has been found in multiple coconspirators basements and just handed over to the defense. The proclamation for Defense Counsel that there are likely more indictments coming. And i as a nonlawyer take those things at Face Value and think, oh, looks like this case is about to get bigger and new Search Warrants must be executed. Are those reasonable inferences to draw from what happened in Court Today . Youve hit the nail on the head, rachel. I think youre right. This wouldnt ordinarily be a newsworthy conference, but a lot of the statements made by weisselbergs attorneys to convince the judge to give them a longer time to review the materials and file motions, they revealed a lot, and, yes, when you start hearing coconspirators basements, to be very clear, you know, it would be one thing to say they got documents from coconspirators. They could get those by voluntarily producing them. They could get those by subpoena. They could get those because the coconspirators cooperate and give it to them. When you start talking about specific locations where they came from, that is a clear indication there have been Search Warrants, and they talk about basements, plural, multiple Search Warrants. So yes. I think there have been Search Warrants. It is clear that this investigation is not just about Allen Weisselberg. And there is a lot of speculation out there. But there were a couple things that jumped out to me in the transcript that lead me to believe that Allen Weisselberg is at the top of the pyramid of this scheme. The first is that the assistant District Attorney said that as to the financial records, weisselberg is the boss. Obviously hes not the boss of the Trump Organization. That has been Donald Trump and, perhaps, his sons. But the fact that he referenced him as the boss of the financial records indicates that he is the top of this conspiracy. So now were looking at a couple people either parallel to him or underneath him in the Trump Organization that may be implicated in this Compensation Scheme to avoid taxes and, so, the question is, do any of those people cooperate . Are they just cooperating to provide more evidence against Allen Weisselberg . Or do they have evidence of knowledge of people higher up than Allen Weisselberg . So there are still a lot of questions, but it does appear there will be more indictments of individuals. I would guess that does not include Donald Trump and that does not include any of his children. Dan, when you look at the way this is proceeding, i was struck by the fact it is going to be nearly a year according to the Judge Today before the trial happens that just i think coincidentally has potentially sort of political implications on its timing since its going to be right before next years midterm elections, if things proceed the way it looks like they are proceeding. It will mean the president s company is on criminal trite right before those elections. The other thing that struck me is that former President Trump making these very belligerent statements about what is going on, naming the da, naming the Attorney General, and then naming a specific lawyer who is working on the case in the d. A. s office, is he running any risk by doing this, saying the american people wont stand by this, calling it a Witch Hunt, proclaiming Prosecutorial Misconduct, naming these individual lawyers and prosecutors is he flirting with anything that might potentially get him in trouble or might be worse for the case against him by doing this in this public way . Well, certainly, you know, his statements as the Chief Executive of the Trump Organization could in theory be used against the Trump Organization. So anything he says could be used at a trial against the Trump Organization. And, yes. You cannot threaten prosecutors in any way, shape, or form. That is a crime. The question, you know, Donald Trump has for many years escaped a lot of Liability Or Guilt because he speaks like a mob boss. And he doesnt say things directly, but he says things with enough of a hint or an inference so that the people who are following him or around him understand him. Michael cohen has talked about this at length. So i dont think that statement itself is chargeable but if it continues and gets worse, yes. You potentially have some degree of obstruction of justice or threats against State Officials that is illegal. Dan goldman, former assistant u. S. Attorney in the southern district of New York. Dan, nice to see you. Thanks for helping us understand this tonight. Thanks, rachel. Well be right back. Stay with us. Sure, hes the 76yearold Guy who still runs marathons, right . Sadly, not anymore. Wow. So sudden. Um, were not about to have the we need Life Insurance conversation again, are we . No, were having the were getting coverage so we dont have to worry about it conversation. So youre calling about the 9. 95 a Month Plan from colonial penn . I am. We put it off long enough. We are getting that 9. 95 plan, today. jonathan is it time for you to call about the 9. 95 plan . Im jonathan from colonial penn Life Insurance company. 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