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Life was cheap that night in New York. Two brutal murders just a Half Mile apart. Here for a homicide Crime Scene. Six people were convicted, including Eric Glisson. You actually think they read the wrong verdict. Then divine intervention through a nun he called grandma. Eric would say, grandma, i think this all happening for a reason. Maybe a nun could help him get into heaven, but could she help him get out of prison . What she helped him do was get a lawyer, and together they hunted for the truth. This is The One case that has kept me up at night for six years. He says i know youre innocent, i know the guys who committed this crime. Will justice finally arrive . Hello and welcome to dateline. Eric glisson was just 20 years old when he was convicted of a murder that sent shockwaves through his neighborhood. A crime he insisted he did not commit. To clear his name eric would have to find the real killers, following clues from the confines of his cell. It would take years for the truth to come out. But would it be enough to set him free . Heres Josh Mankiewicz with a bronx tale. Sing sing correctional facility. The maximum Security Prison in New York. This is the big house. Home to some of the worst of the worst. Killers, rapists, drug dealers. Good morning. Thank you. It is not where youd expect to find this gentle woman. In sing sing, they call me grandma. Grandma is sister Joanna Chan, a marinol nun. I began working at sing sing more than 12 years ago. This is the battle about general. Grandma volunteers at the prison, working with inmates in a theater program. She even teaches them chinese. Through the years, grandma has helped dozens of men. But she says this inmate here on stage, a convicted killer, has changed her. He is just so brave. Watching him all these years, i took such courage myself watching him. Sister joanna remembers the first time she met this inmate. He was sitting alone eating. He said, my family send me 30 pounds of food. So i said, your family must love you very much. And he said, yes, because they know im innocent. And thats how the whole story began. A story that began with the unlikely friendship between a nun and a convicted killer would grow into a quest that would shake the faith of even those sworn to uphold the law. I thought if he was innocent god has to see him through. So who is this convicted murderer . He is inmate 97a7088. Eric glisson. We first met him in the spring of 2012 when a Dateline Producer Working On A Different Story In Sing sing Met Eric in his cell. Youre going to film me . Yeah. He had been locked up for 18 years. You want to see what its like to live in here . I can touch the walls with my hands. Eric told us he didnt belong here. My story is that im unjustly convicted for a crime i didnt commit and from February 3rd of 1995 until the present date ive been sitting in here lingering every day wondering whether this mistake will be corrected. Weve heard that before. Many times. But what if he was telling the truth . So, over time how are you doing, man . How did you get up here . We began visiting eric. Whats up . Youre looking good. And listening to his story. When i got arrested i was always under the impression that people who are guilty actually go to jail. I didnt believe that i would be convicted of a crime that i didnt do. When police put the cuffs on him in 1995 eric was 20 years old. A brand new father of a 1weekold baby girl. When we spoke, their only time together had been spent in sing sings visiting room. I have a family who i love and who loves me. My daughter, i need to get home to her and be a father. Eric often shared his story with sister joanna. Over time, she felt compelled to do something, anything for him. So she called the only lawyer she knew. The first person i could think of was mr. Peter cross. I trust her judgment. To me it was worth investing my time in. Attorney Peter Cross agreed to at least see if there was some truth to erics story. But there was still one problem. This is not the kind of law you normally practice. No, not at all. Im a corporate lawyer. I do corporate litigation. I dont do criminal work. Charmaine chester was peters assistant. This was also new territory for her. Out of the blue one day, i get this call. You have a collect call from an inmate at sing sing correctional facility. Im like, okay. Soon she found herself spending hours on the phone with the inmate. At first it was all, you know, business, case, case. By the time you talk to somebody every day, personal things start to slip in. Friendship. Friendship. In the meantime, her boss was checking out erics claims of innocence. Did you believe it at the beginning . Im not going to say i didnt disbelieve him. Its just im practicing law for a long time. Okay . And people lie. They certainly color the truth. This is a man who was convicted of murdering someone. So, of course, i approached it with some skepticism. But once cross learned the facts, he agreed to take Erics Case at no charge. Representing a man who didnt seem hardened by prison but almost frightened. Its terrifying because you can just be walking in the yard and then you could be shanked. Thats the life of prison. A life hed lived for nearly two decades. A story he was telling us if true was as explosive as it was tragic. It turns out that the police and the District Attorney had all the evidence at their disposal to solve this crime from the beginning. Not only was eric insisting he was wrongfully convicted, he said others were, too. All of them locked away for life for the same crime. Five other people, five other people was also convicted of this crime. Six people. Could all of them actually be innocent . Time now is approximately 7 15. To find out, well go back almost two decades and take a hard look at how it all began. Coming up what one witness really saw from her window the day of the murder. How the detectives could have decided to run with this still shocks me today. When dateline continues. Were carvana, the company who invented Car Vending Machines and buying a car 100 online. Now weve created a brandnew way for you to sell your car. Whether its a year old or a few years old. We wanna buy your car. So go to carvana and enter your License Plate Answer a few questions. And our Techno Wizardry calculates your Cars Value and gives you a real offer in seconds. When youre ready, well come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, thats it. So ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. 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Eric glisson was in the 18th year of a 25 To Life Murder sentence. He claimed he was innocent. You ever been in prison before this . No. Whats it like to live in prison . Its hell. Eric Glissons Nightmare began on the night of january 18th, 1995. The new York City detectives lining this hallway in The Bronx were entering a Crime Scene as chilling as it was violent. The victims name was Denise Raymond. She was an executive with fedex. Cops videoed the entire Scene And Anything that might seem important. Detectives are mystified over the vicious killing of a successful executive. The case went to detective tom aiello, a 20year veteran. He led a team of detectives who worked through the night knocking on doors and collecting evidence. Then as the Sun Rose the next morning some of the cops turned their attention to another murder, another bloody Crime Scene. This is the Video Police recorded of that second murder scene. It was seemingly unrelated but just a Half Mile away in the same precinct. This was a busy night for the Murder Business in The Bronx. Time now is approximately 7 15 a. M. On january 19th, 1995. This time, a livery Cab Driver named Baithe Diop had been found slumped over his Steering Wheel shot multiple times, the victim of an apparent robbery. The Drivers Money and Cell Phone were missing. The investigation of the Cab Drivers murder would be headed by 31yearold Detective mike donnelly, who worked alongside detective aiello. The two Detectives Donnelly and aiello ended up putting their heads and cases together, concluding the same group of several people committed both murders. Did you know the other people . I knew two of them. From the neighborhood . From the neighborhood. These are good friends of yours . Acquaintances. Just guys you saw around . Yes. February 4th, 1995. One of those guys was 19yearold michael cosme, the first suspect arrested. You have the right to remain silent. He was the only one videotaped by police. I have one thing to say, though. Ill read you those rights and you can i only have one thing to say, though. I didnt do it. I wasnt there. I was in my house asleep. Detectives didnt believe him and cosme was arrested for both murders. Days later so was Eric Glisson. Originally you were charged with both murders, with denise Raymonds Murder and the Cab Driver murder. Yes. But by the time eric went to trial prosecutors dropped charges against him in the Denise Raymond case, citing lack of evidence. So what evidence was there against him in the Cab Driver case . It was really pretty simple. There was a witness against him. Her name . Miriam tavares. Tavares told the cops she looked out her window and saw it all, eric and the others, smack in the middle of the Cab Driver robbery that ended in murder. Is it possible miriam saw you commit a crime . No. Not any crime . I wasnt there. Bad blood between you and miriam . Yes, bad blood. Eric says he had a brief sexual relationship with miriam that did not end well. You have a fling with a girl and then you just cut it off abruptly. She may feel slighted. Slighted enough to make you a Murder Suspect . I guess so. Whatever her motivation, the question is how reliable was she as a witness . All these years later eric finally had someone to take another look at miriams story. Attorney Peter Cross. Theres no doubt this woman was lying. I went out to the Crime Scene and she could not possibly have seen what she said occurred. So what could Miriam Tavares really see . Heres the problem with miriams story. From that police video, we know this is where the cab came to rest. We also know the shooting happened a couple of Car Lengths back, sort of where that red suv is. We know a man in that building called 911 when he heard the shots and he said he saw only one person running away from the scene. Now, a couple of weeks later, Miriam Tavares comes forward. She lives in that building over there. Now youre looking at me from outside the Window Miriam said she saw all of this happen. This has to be easily 100 yards away. And she says she saw six people from the neighborhood commit the crime. She says she heard what they said and she saw what they stole. And she said she saw all of it looking through this Bathroom Window. The only problem is, if you go back to where the shooting actually happened, its pretty clear Miriam Tavares couldnt have seen anything at all. She said from the Bathroom Window she heard these conversations going on inside the car. I mean, its just incredible testimony. But what disturbed cross even more, Detective Donnelly never looked at the Crime Scene from the perspective you just did. Wouldnt that sort of be standard Operating Procedure to check out what witnesses say . You would think so. I think they got on the horse early on in this case and they rode that horse and they werent going to change direction. We wanted to speak with Miriam Tavares. She died of a Drug Overdose in 2002. Other than her testimony, there was no physical evidence, no forensics, no prints, nothing that tied eric or the others to the Cab Drivers murder. Even so, Detectives Donnelly and aiello went with what they had and closed both murder cases. Within three weeks, they arrested their suspects and The Bronx District Attorney tried them. In all, six people were convicted. Well call them The Bronx six. Five men and a woman. All sent away facing 25 to life. One of them was Eric Glisson. Whats it like to hear that Verdict Read . Its like a shot in the chest. Its like your heart just melts. Just dissolves. You actually think that, you know, they read the wrong verdict. That this cant be true. The nypd was quite proud of Detectives Donnelly and aiellos work, so proud that five months after the arrests the department allowed the detectives to be featured in new York Magazine about how they amazingly cracked the cases. How the detectives could have believed that and decided to run with this and send them to jail for the rest of their lives on the basis of this garbage still shocks me today. All these years later, Attorney Cross knew his opinion of the Detective Work in this Case Wasnt going to free Eric Glisson or anyone else. I think the only kind of evidence thats going to sway a court is if we can point to who the real killers are. That was quite a lot to hope for. But from behind bars, Eric Glisson was already on the trail. I got some documents and so i see this Guys Name keeps Coming Up. Coming up a Surprise Visitor and an answered prayer. He said, im sorry. I know youre innocent. I know the guys who committed this crime. When dateline continues. Age before beauty . Why not both . Visibly diminish wrinkled skin in. Crepe corrector lotion. Only from Gold Bond. Another day, another chance. Make the most of it with the network that can deliver Gig Speeds to the most businesses. 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As the years passed, eric took College Courses offered by the prison. He learned about the law and fought his case. How did he get that evidence in his possession . The courts denied all his appeals. I dont have any appeals left. Nothing. It was a lonely fight and then in 2006 he met sister Joanna Chan in one of the prisons programs, the woman he calls grandma. Theres particular dark time. He would say, grandma, its really hard. I told her grandma, i just lost my last appeal. I dont know what im going to do. I always say lets keep the faith and lets go and pray and i said, we have many, many sisters praying with you. Sister joanna offered more than just her prayers. Thats when she brought in Peter Cross, who was now fighting for eric on the outside. So you have Detective Donnelly as the officer assigned. Yes. With eric as his guide, cross got up to speed. And he found . Troubling information about how Detectives Donnelly and aiello connected the two murders. It was through this witness. Her name is Kathy Gomez. Kathy, were on the record. Cross tracked her down and videotaped his interview with her. You know im here today because Eric Glisson gomez, who was 16 at the time of the murder, says she first came in contact with the detectives for only one reason. She was friends with Miriam Tavares, who spoke only spanish. So you served kind of as a translator . Yes. But by the time she had walked out of the police station, Kathy Gomez had become the key witness in the investigation of the fedex murder. Gomez had signed a sworn statement claiming she overheard the same suspects talking about details of both crimes that only the killers or the cops would know. Tell me if you recognize your signature on that document. Yeah, thats my signature. Heres the problem. Its a crime kathy now says she knew nothing about. I even told them i didnt see nothing like that. Whats more, gomez says she could hardly read or write english. I couldnt read it. They just wanted me oh, you have to sign this. You dont have nothing to do with this. Kathy gomez told me that entire statement was prepared by the police and she signed it without knowing even what was in it. Even so, gomez did testify, now saying she only took the stand because she says detectives threatened to arrest her if she refused. They put me in handcuffs to take me because i refused to go, you know, to court. I was just freaked out you know, because who want to be in handcuffs or in Jail Or Something like that. Nobody. In fact, Court Transcripts show she even attempted suicide as the trial began. But because she didnt testify against eric her claims all these years later wouldnt help him. To have any chance at having another day in court eric knew hed need powerful evidence. Evidence of actual innocence. He started thinking, if he and the other five codefendants had nothing to do with the two murders, then who did . After more than a decade of trying finally some of erics requests for documents in his case began trickling in. I came across one document which had my name as well as my other codefendants, but one name stood out, it was an individual i found out was part of a gang called sex, money, murder. Eric was on to an important lead. Sex, money, murder. Even veteran cops knew those three words meant danger. A notorious gang from the Soundview Section of The Bronx. 1997 october, sex, money, murder became my assignment. Pete forcelli was an nypd detective assigned to take down the gang. This was all sex, money, Murder Territory . Yeah. Were in the heart of it. While forcelli was investigating the gang an informant told him details of a crime the Gang Members had committed. There was a Cab Driver who had been killed in the vicinity of soundview. So forcelli went to the 43rd precinct in the South Bronx to see if there was any truth to the story. Early 1998, walked in the precinct. Went upstairs, walked into the detective squad room. You go in there and say what about this murder, what do you know about a murder . Yeah, i wanted to know about a Cab Driver murder in soundview or the area around soundview. And the response . They had nothing that fit that description. But Forcellis Informant insisted the murder did happen. You didnt only make one trip to the 43rd precinct. Made two. Again, came out saying we have nothing that fits that description. Is there any conceivable reason why the Police Department Wouldnt tell you the truth . Well, i thought about that. Forcelli says the answer might be simple. As far as the nypd was concerned, this homicide was solved. Closed. The detective may have looked only in the open Homicide Drawer and never bothered to even look to see if there was anything other than an unsolved homicide that fit that description. As far as you know, thats The End of it. Right. Like i said, id moved on. Forcelli soon retired from the nypd, not knowing six people had already been convicted. In the meantime eric was stuck in prison. It wasnt until 2012, 14 years later, that he hit paydirt and it came in the form of Cell Phone records. Remember, the Cab Drivers Cell Phone had been stolen by whoever killed him. I found hundreds of calls after his death. The records showed the first call was made from the victims phone minutes after the shooting. The numbers called traced back to relatives of two sex, money, Murder Gang members named Jose Rodriguez and gilbert vega. Eric believed he finally had evidence showing who the real killers were. It took me 16, 17 years to get those through freedom of information. They were never provided to the defense . No. It turns out that the police and the District Attorney had all the evidence at their disposal to solve this crime from the beginning. So he wrote a letter to the u. S. Attorney proclaiming his innocence and detailing the information hed found out about the sex, money, Murder Gang. It was a hail mary pass. In an amazing stroke of luck, Erics Letter landed on this mans desk. His name, John Omalley, an investigator for the u. S. Attorney in New York. Days after reading Erics Letter, omalley made a personal trip to see Eric In Sing sing. Immediately, John Omalley just stood up and he asked me. Did you write this letter . I said, yes. He shook my hand and he said, im sorry. I said, sorry for what . He says, you know, i know youre innocent. When he said that, i said, what are you talking about, sir . He said, listen. I know the guys who committed this crime. How did omalley know . It turns out omalley worked with Detective Forcelli on that Gang Case ten years earlier and back then those two Gang Members, Jose And Gilbert actually confessed the Cab Driver shooting to omalley. He said, when i read this letter, everything just came back to me from that day. I put it altogether. When these guys confessed to me. Omalley didnt want to appear on camera but told us he also checked with the nypd after getting those confessions back in 2002 and, like Detective Forcelli before him, omalley was told there was no record of the crime. After getting Erics Letter in 2012, omalley addressed the court in a sworn affidavit stating that Eric Glisson and the others were innocent of the Cab Drivers shooting. Armed with that kind of statement, youd think eric would be literally home free. Youd be wrong. Coming up Eric Glisson isnt giving up. This is my Wall Of Hope. Everyone here has been unjustly convicted and freed. When dateline continues. Why hide your skin if dupixent has your Moderatetosevere Eczema or Atopic Dermatitis Under Control . Hide my skin . Not me. By Hitting Eczema where it counts, dupixent helps heal your skin from within, keeping you one step ahead of eczema. And that means longlasting clearer skin. And fast Itch Relief for adults. 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That and a powerful ally in the Justice System gave Eric Something he had not had in a long time. Hope. Back to Josh Mankiewicz with a bronx tale. For the first time in his 18year struggle to prove that he didnt pull a trigger Eric Glisson finally had his hands on a smoking gun. An affidavit from a federal investigator saying eric was innocent. He asked me, do i have an attorney . I told him, yeah. I said, i promise you ill call this lawyer today. So i was standing on line in a bank. Peter cross remembers that phone call. Mr. Omalley tells me, peter, im with the u. S. Attorneys office. We know your client is innocent. That was such an emotional moment for me. I was like, tears welled up in my eyes right in front of the teller. I thank god every day for John Omalley. When i looked in that mans eyes, you know, i see a man who has integrity. I seen a man who was honest. Omalleys affidavit was enough for The Bronx d. A. To reopen the case and to get in front of a judge. But that would take time. Two more months. This is my Wall Of Hope. Everyone here has been unjustly convicted and freed. On august 5th, 2012, Erics Lawyer goes to court. This is our first appearance to try to get the judgment vacated. Cross is joined by his assistant charmaine chester. By now, they have worked on the case for six years. I want to see him out. I told him the last time i went up to sing sing, im not visiting you here again. This is it. Finally, cross argues his case to the judge. My client has spent 17 years plus in jail for a crime he hasnt committed. But it doesnt go down like a hollywood script. Prosecutors do not admit theres been a terrible mistake. Your honor, well be seeking an extension of the time to answer those questions. How much of an extension are the people seeking . Just at this point, 30 days. Another month. Cross is frustrated. He told me they were starting their investigation in june looking into this matter. I was able to get my papers ready and it seems to me that another couple of weeks should be enough to get a response to the motion. Youve heard the saying that the wheels of justice grind slowly . Now youve got a frontrow seat. We have been trying to put together facts and circumstances surrounding this now 15yearold trial. If at any point in time you make the determination that youre going to concede, i will advance the case. Translation this isnt going to end today. Eric stays in prison. But two weeks later, Peter Cross heads to sing sing. Earlier that morning hed gotten a call from the d. A. s office and he has good news for eric. I received a call from the d. A. In The Bronx telling me that theyre ready to make a deal. Im going up now to see eric, to talk to him about the conditions for his release. Erics used to visits from his lawyer. Good to see you. And very used to keeping his own hopes looking good. Thank you. On ice. Get you out of the yard . Yeah. I was working out, running, jogging. You know i wouldnt be Coming Up here cross wants to make sure this sinks in and so he slowly reveals the details. I was very surprised today. Look. I got a call from Ed Pulte Today saying that we have a proposal for you. The d. A. Is now prepared to give you a conditional dismissal of the indictment and vacate the conviction. Today . Its not going to be today. But it will be by the 13th i think. Are you serious . Do you believe that . Well, it hasnt set in yet. I know. The initial shock. I know. All the fighting we have done over these years. Yeah. Um i dont know what to say right now. But unfortunately for eric, a month later hes still behind bars. These people just dont want to let me go. They want to continue to hold me and torture me. You know, the mental trauma im going through right now because of this, im wondering whether, you know, they may renege on this agreement. But as excruciating as the hours are, Eric Shares with us something beyond that Wall Of Hope thats helped him wake up every morning. Theres a bench by the water that each time i go to the barbershop i look at that bench and i wonder if ill ever be able to sit on it and look back up here instead of looking down there. Thats been one of my main goals while i was in here, to sit on that bench as a free man. Will Eric Glisson ever get to sit on that bench . Hes about to get his day in court and an answer. Coming up we have made a decision to take this unprecedented and exceptional step. When dateline continues. Ll find a better life. It all starts with the most innovative technology. Like the new miracleearmini, available exclusively at miracleear. So small that no one will see it, but youll notice the difference. And now, miracleear is offering a thirtyday riskfree trial. You can experience better hearing with no obligation. Call 1800miracle right now and experience a better life. 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I want to see what it looks like from that bench to the window because all i know is what it looks like from the window to the bench. Finally, on october 22nd, 2012, four months after a federal investigator vouched for erics innocence, his day in court has come. Erics been transferred from sing sing and is waiting in a Holding Cell in The Bronx county courthouse. Apparently the Court Officers were advised its also been a long, painful road for lawyer Peter Cross. This one case kept me up at night for six years because i knew we had to find, really like The Onearmed man to get him out of jail. Eric walks into the courtroom. Number 4 and 5 on the calendar, Eric Glisson and kathie watkins. Standing next to him is Cathy Watkins, the only woman of The Bronx six. Like eric, she was tried only for the Cab Drivers murder and in 1997 they went on trial together. Eric says he doesnt know her now and didnt know her then. When trial started, the officers was bringing us up to the court and one of the officers says this is watkins. I said, Cathy Watkins . She said yeah, who are you . I said, im Eric Glisson. How are you involved this . She says, i dont know. How are you involved . Whats going on . We both didnt know. We was confused. Now, 18 years later, assistant District Attorney Nicole Keary says her office believes there may have been an injustice. But only agrees to release glisson and watkins if they wear Monitor Bracelets as the d. A. s office continues to investigate. We have made a decision to take this unprecedented as you know, judge, and exceptional step that we are going to consent to the conditional vacating of the conviction for these two defendants and the condition being that the defendants do wear those electronic monitoring bracelets. All thats left now is for the judge to make it official. The record will reflect that the conditional vacater of the conviction as to mr. Glisson and miss watkins is granted and each defendant is released on their own recognizance. [applause] erics friends and family and the News Media are waiting for him outside. And now, for the first time in nearly two decades, Eric Glisson is about to take his first steps as a free man. [applause] eric, what is your emotion right now . This is a major pivotal point in my life. And i worked hard. I persevered. And with Effort And Determination im standing here before you. Now, its his codefendant Cathy Watkinsturn. Also wrongfully convicted. 17 years. Almost 18 years. 29 years old when she went away. She is free at 46. I didnt do it. I didnt do it. 100 innocent. This is our judicial system did to me. Innocent all the way. By January 2013 the convictions for the rest of The Bronx six were overturned. For both the Cab Driver Murder And Fedex executive Denise Raymond. This is carlos perez, 25 when he was locked up. Finally a free man at 44. I even wrote the president. 1995. Who was it, clinton . Bush. I dont know who it was. I said mr. President , im innocent. But nobody listened. Devon ayers. He was 19 when he was convicted. I spent all of My 20s and most of My 30s there. So im just trying to get on with life as i know it as today. And michael cosme. Remember him . He was the only one videotaped by police. I only have one thing to say, though. Im innocent. I didnt do it. I wasnt there. This is michael 18 years later. Finally, someone believed him. And while we now know those two Gang Members confessed to the Cab Driver murder, Fedex Executive Denise raymonds killer or killers have never been brought to justice. We wanted to speak to someone from the nypd or The Bronx District Attorneys office but both declined comment citing the multiple civil suits they faced as The Bronx six sought millions in damages against the city. And those two detectives, donnelly and aiello who were portrayed as Super Sleuths back in 1995, are now both retired and they didnt have anything to say to us. But in Court Filings Attorneys for the city of New York denied that either detective threatened witnesses or falsified statements. And yet oboth new York City and state would ultimately agree to pay each of The Bronx six millions of dollars in damages. But for Eric The Immediate challenge was starting a new life. One full of amazing discoveries. Hello . No, no. Upside down. Huh . Coming up Eric Glissons First Night Of Freedom in almost 20 years. Wow when dateline continues. Flyin hihow i feel breeze drifting on by you know how i feel [man coughing] its a new dawn, its a new day. No matter how you got copd its time to make a stand. And im feelin good start a new day with trelegy. No oncedaily Copd Medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. 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And we are by his side as he experiences all of it. Oh i seen this in the magazine. Erics first few hours of freedom hello . Are part exhilaration. Hello . Part discovery. Hello . Hes never actually used a Cell Phone. Yeah. Wheres cynthia . Hello . You have it upside down, eric. Hello. No, no, upside down. Like this. Hello . Huh . Can you hear me now . Like the commercial . His first meal . Lamb chops. Wow. Its like jumping up out of a coffin and walking, you know. Like being read your last rites and All Of A Sudden a miracle happens. Youre back out in society an youre wondering, you know, will they accept you . Yeah. You see . On his First Night Of Freedom, Erics Lawyer treats him to a hotel room. I have a key thats a plastic card. Wow. I used to sleep on a Metal Frame and now im on a comfortable bed. But the real joy for eric is reuniting with his daughter cynthia. Cell phone towers. Ready, set, go. She was just a week old when he was arrested. Dont get too excited. You cheated. And that degree he began working on behind bars . Eeric started taking classes again two days after his release. And finally received that longawaited diploma from mercy college. Today, a fully exonerated Eric Glisson became a businessman, an entrepreneur. Im doing everything single handedly. All of the reconstruction of the ceiling. Theres going to be four tables. On the Oneyear Anniversary of his release, eric opened a fresh Juice Business that he built himself named Fresh Take. Afternoon, sir. How are you doing . Nice place you have here. Thanks. Where did you get Fresh Take . I knew that i had a Fresh Take on life. Im free now. Im no longer the victim. Im the victor. I won. You seem to have come through this remarkably free of Bitterness And Anger or youre hiding it very well. Well, i dont have any animosity against anybody at this point. Except the people who grow strawberries and raised the prices. Because the strawberrys the primary thing. Because thats a crime. Yeah, it is a crime. I mean eric had a business partner. Someone he met when he he was still locked up. Hes become my brother. Its charmain chester. His lawyers assistant. I call him my bratty Little Brother and im the annoying older sister. They opened their store in late 2013. Pivotal point in my life. It taught it gave me a lot of tools. On this day, we had a little surprise for him. He hadnt seen sister Joanna Chan since he was released. A woman who put eric on a quest for freedom all those years ago. Oh, my god Oh My God Oh My God grandma. Oh my god. Congratulations. Thank you. Oh my god. They told me you were in china. I was. And there was one last thing we wanted to do with eric. Remember that Bench Eric could see from Inside Sing sing . We took him back there. And we watched him finally make good on that promise to himself. To get that other view of the prison. This time from the outside. Thats all for this edition of dateline. Im craig melvin. Thank you for watching. 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