Done a bunch of terrible things that never turn out to be true upon closer inspection. Theyre obviously telling lies, but the problem is people believe those lies. Their base of voters believes the lies, and weve seen what happens when people believe scary, awful lies come ing from republicans. A Trump Mob stormed the capitol to stop the democratic process because the mob believed the republican president and his enablers in congress when they said the election was stolen. And people are still dying every single day from a virus that we have a safe and effective vaccine for because of more conservative lies, and tomorrow right wing extremists have planned yet another rally in front of the capitol. This one to show support for the more than 600 insurrectionists who have been arrested for attacking the government on January The 6th. Capitol Police Chief Tom manger said this about preparations for the event. There have been some threats of violence associated with the events for tomorrow. We would be foolish not to take seriously the intelligence that we have at our disposal. How credible it is, how likely it is. People can make those judgments , but the fact of the matter is we are hearing some chatter that i think would be responsible for us to plan the way weve been planning and put the precautions in place. The reality is this rally will probably be pretty tiny. Dont tell Donald Trump, and definitely, definitely do not show him a photograph, but precautions must still be taken because, as we saw with the insurrection, the failure to prepare for the threat of domestic attack is deadly serious. Remington belford told the New York Times this week, i saw one of the members of congress who has been pretty notorious and involved in objecting to the election certification, and i have this overwhelming feeling of i wont say fear but just concern and just like wanting to to place distance between her and i. There are still remnants of Trauma And Fear that those people are still allowed to be here. And they could be plotting another one. See, thats the real fear here. That seven months later after the January 6th insurrection, the plotters and antidemocratic forces behind the Capitol Attack are not only chastened, theyre emboldened. The normalization of political violence as a reasonable option after a loss at an election is not a characteristic of a healthy democracy. The threat to our democracy continues because republicans in congress who incited the Trump Mob are still damaging americans faith in the democratic process with all of their lies. And its all in an effort to win an election. Republicans in three states are conducting fake partisan election audits, or as i like to say Fraudits Screaming about fraud thats not there and undermining faith in the 2020 election and elections in the future. Just this week we saw before polls closed republicans in california claiming that fraud was occurring in the Recall Election that hadnt even happened yet. These lies are designed to make americans question the legitimate results of elections and worse yet, are used as an excuse to enact Voter Suppression laws in the states. Theyre changing the rules of how votes are counted up after the fact, and theyre driving anticoup conservatives right out of the gop. Republican congressman anthony gonzalez, one of the ten republicans who voted to impeach Donald Trump over the insurrection just announced that hes not seeking reelection because of the environment the gop has created for him in ohio, not just politically, but also needing extra security to protect his family from physical harm. The gop might not win with this strategy in the shortterm, but we might not recover from the longterm damage. Who wants to be in a political party where you receive Death Threats from your own voters when you go against the extremists who are spewing hate and deadly lies. A new Cnn Poll finds 21 of republicans believe that President Biden legitimately won enough votes to be president. No matter what they believe, he won the election. He won by 7 Million votes, is and its clear republicans, theyre not going to protect our democracy. They think they have a better chance of winning if they do the exact opposite. So heres the question were going to start with tonight. Democrats have the tools to save our democracy, and theyre in the majority. Theyre also in the white house, but will they use the tools before its too late. Leading off our Discussion Tonight is democratic congressman Eric Swalwell of california. He served as a House Impeachment Manager in the second Impeachment Trial of president Donald Trump. Hes also the author of endgame inside the impeachments of Donald Trump which is funny to think about because there has been more than one. Thank you so much for being here, congressman. I added to the book, i had to add an s to the title. Its now impeachments. Its really wild, also that that happened in less than a year and a halfs time. But thats not the point of this conversation. Congressman, how you marginalize those leaders that are within the Republican Party who are literally feeding their base a steady diet of lies to quote the great jennifer rubin. You have to expose them for the lies that they are. So the voters know every day that January 6th was not a peaceful demonstration, it was a violent day and we cant let that be erased from history. And it has to also be clear that tomorrow the Republican Party, its crazy to say this out loud in this day and age, but the Republican Party is holding a celebration for cop killers. Theyre celebrating cop Killers Tomorrow at our Nations Capitol and theyre doing this while S Police Officers who have suffered injuries, many of them who have not returned to work. This would be equivalent to having a post9 11 vigil for the hijackers. That is what the Republican Party has reduced itself to. The reason why people show up is a decreasing likelihood of republican leaders to condemn rallies like this and the increase of calls for violence from within, from my own colleagues like Madison Cawthorn who recently suggested that people may have to resort to a bloodshed to get the outcome that they want in our democracy. Do you think that that viewpoint that Madison Cawthorn communicated that, you know, talking about political violence, do you think that thats what the gop has accepted at this point . Do you think theyre aok with political violence as a result of a lost election . Their silence is complicit, makes them complicit. Their silence is Telegraphing A Permissive Lane to the mob who will continue to show up to events like this. People who will show up at the capitol with a Propane Tank threatening to blow up the place because theyre hearing from republican leaders from Donald Trump to Kevin Mccarthy that the election was stolen and they believe its a call of arms for them to take it back. We have to recognize theres a cost to these deadly lies. Its really two deadly lies that the republicans are telling. The first of course about the election, its the continued violence and threats of violence. Theres a cost for the radicalization that the republicans have put out there to their voters. The other cost is the lie about the vaccines. If the deaths dont concern you, then the actual monetary costs should concern you. We spent 4. 6 trillion addressing covid and for the unvaccinated, the Kaiser Foundation estimates that we have spent 20 Billion treating the unvaccinated. So two twin deadly lies right now coming from the republicans literally killing us and costing us financially. One of the questions i have is at what point do these republicans reach a breaking point, not just in the country but within their own base and with their own voters. At what point is the number of sick and dead going to be too high for them to accept, and at what point will they say, no, political violence is not okay, and how would it look if they actually did that . Theyre not doing that. They wont do that and theyre going to pay a price just as they did in california this past tuesday because theyre wildly, you know, in theyre out of alignment with where everyday voters are, so i would suggest to you that while eight in ten republicans believe the election was stolen, and four in ten believe that violence is okay, that doesnt reflect that the Republican Party is growing. I think its shrinking and becoming more and more radical. And when you look across the Battleground States in a recent poll, a majority of voters support the Vaccine Requirements that Joe Biden is putting in place to protect us, and theyre going in the opposite direction continuing to peddle the lies. I think theyre shrinking and we just have to keep beating them at the Ballot Box. Congressman Eric Swalwell, thank you so much for starting us off tonight and please have a safe weekend. Joining us now is democratic Congresswoman Madeline Dean of pennsylvania, she was an Impeachment Manager in the second Impeachment Trial of Donald Trump because, as we said at the top, there were two, so you have to distinguish between the two impeachments of the former president. Congresswoman, how do you marginalize the leaders within the Republican Party who are, as i said, feeding their base these lies that are sometimes resulting in political violence, but certainly resulting in Sickness And Death when it comes to covid. Good evening. Im pleased to be with you, but these Topics Couldnt be more troubling, and of course im delighted to be in the company of Eric Swalwell. He and i served as Impeachment Managers together on impeachment number two. What im struck by this week and i will get to your question about marginalization, but what im struck by this week is the image of the fencing going back up. Capitol police are forced to put fences back up to protect us, members of congress, our staff, and themselves from the lies that are coming from within. A lot of people might think were putting the fences up because we had to protect ourselves from a possible attack as we suffered on January The 6th that i was a part that i was witness to and witness victim of, frankly, but really, think about it. The image is absolutely perverse. It is the lies that are coming from within that are requiring these fences. If elected leaders like those on the fringe, Madison Cawthorn and others, would stop the lies, we would have no need for this fencing, if leaders, republicans would actually call out and say, this was a free and fair election. There was absolutely no evidence of important fraud. It was a handful of cases, countable literally number of cases, no measurable fraud in this election, and the president is the president in a free and fair election. How do we continue to marginalize them . I think theyre continuing to marginalize themselves. Eric was talking about his experience this week in california with the recall. You saw what is going on here in pennsylvania. The Pennsylvania State Senate has passed legislation that would subpoena the records of 7 Million voters in pennsylvania. I happen to represent the fourth congressional district. My republican moderate voters are not happy about this kind of a subpoena for their personal records. I think the republicans ae doing it to themselves. Its a very, very sad set of circumstances. Are the voters or your voters going to be able to make their voices heard on that point . Because part of the problem post2020, as you know, is the Sham Audit in arizona thats seemingly contagious like a virus thats spreading to states like pennsylvania where theyre trying to change the rules for how the votes are counted after the fact, changing the power of the Secretary Of State in arizona, for example, and i feel lying theyre going to stay and do whatever they want if they implement rules that dont allow us to vote them out if we dont like that. Well, youre absolutely right. Elections are everything, and thats what we have to do here in pennsylvania. We have to do it all across the country. The thing thats going on here in pennsylvania as i said, my own constituents are very, very upset about it, democrats and republicans is that the senate has said that they are hiring they want to hire a Third Party unnamed vendor who would subpoena all of our records, my records, Anybody Else who was a registered voter in pennsylvania, and they would have access not just to our voter registration, theyd have access to our license numbers. Theyd have access to parts of our social security numbers, republicans dont like this, democrats dont like this. Its literally unamerican, unconstitutional, but it is what a shrinking Republican Party is up to. It will be up to us, it will be up to the voters to vote out such people. You know, this whole thing began five or six years ago with a lie and a wall, and here we are, i hope we are at the end of it where we are, again, with a lie the Big Lie that they need to tear down and call back. Its a lie and a fence, and so its time for this to end. Democrats are focused on something much more important, and youve seen what weve accomplished. Weve helped our country recover from an economic collapse and shutdown. We kept us from the brink of any kind of a depression, and instead we have a robust economy that is coming back with growing jobs. We are building back better as the republicans shrink and require us to put fences up to protect our democracy. Congresswoman madeline dean, thank you so much for being here on this Friday Night and for joining us. Please stay safe. Coming up, finally, a good News Update in the fight against Voter Suppression. North Carolina Judges have blocked North Carolinas voter i. D. Law because they ruled it was intended to discriminate against black people. Thats up next. What can i du with less asthma . With dupixent i can du more. Yardwork. Teamwork. Long walks. Thats how you du more, with dupixent, which helps prevent asthma attacks. Dupixent is not for sudden breathing problems. 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Throughout American History the courts have considered a lot of cases that hinge on whether the harm to a particular group caused by a law is unconstitutional discrimination. The opinion even called out the republicans for pretending the purpose of the voter i. D. Law wasnt to suppress the voters of color who dont vote for them most of the time. Quote, the republican Majority Targeted Voters who based on race were unlikely to vote for the Majority Party even if done for partisan ends that constitutes racial discrimination. So the judge is saying, oh, yeah, nice try. Joining us now are allison rigs, coexecutive director and Chief Counselor for voting rights, the southern coalition for social justice, the group that brought the lawsuit, and democratic North Carolina State Senator and Deputy Minority Leader Gladys Robinson. The judges point out that race and politics are deeply intertwined in North Carolina, quote, in close elections and in an era of divided state government, polarization along racial lines has made access to the Ballot Box a critical. This most recent expansion of africanamerican political participation has been met with Facially Neutral Laws enacted by republican majorities and designed to constrain africanamerican political power. Unpack that for us. Talk to us about the significance of this Ruling Today in terms of proving that the law was racist. Thank you for having me tonight, and for raising this Issue Awareness of this issue. In the last decade in North Carolina the republican majority, which was a super majority for the vast majority of that decade has sought to entrench its power by excluding people from the Ballot Box, particularly voters of color and specifically africanamerican voters. Those tools become incredibly powerful, as weve seen in North Carolina and across the nation in these tight elections, in these politically wrought times, but this State Court did what federal courts before it have done in redistricting cases and Voter Suppression cases in North Carolina and said you may not target black voters because of how they vote. That violates the equal protection guarantees of the North Carolina constitution. And State Senator robinson, this is the second time in five years that North Carolina has had a voter i. D. Law struck down as unconstitutional. This is from the news and observer. This comes after a previous attempt by gop lawmakers in 2013 to enact a different voter i. D. Law, and that was also struck down as unconstitutional in 2016. The 2016 Court Ruling said North Carolina Republican Lawmakers have targeted black voters with almost surgical precision in the way the law had been written. The ruling laid out a detailed account of the history of discriminatory Voting Laws against black voters in North Carolina. What is your reaction to this ruling . Is this is this law just another in the line of essentially racist laws that theyre trying to put into place to block Ballot Access for black voters . Zerlina absolutely, what i have seen during my 11 years in the legislature has been constant attempts to suppress the rights of africanamericans to vote because they do vote democratic mostly, but also because people understand their rights and understand the need to get to the Ballot Box and to vote, and so these voter i. D. Laws and the statistics have shown that before 2018 or even before then, the majority of the people who did not have the government issued i. D. S were africanamericans, were elderly, were poor, had issues in terms of those things. So they knew to target africanamericans to keep them from getting to the Ballot Box, to keep them from voting for democrats and to keep them from exercising their rights. So this is just a constant battle in North Carolina, and im really proud of the courts Ruling Today. And allison, the judges actually criticized the unusual passage of this bill. Do you think that, you know, the fact that republicans in these State Houses are ramming these laws through, do you think more courts and more judges like this one are going to recognize the intention behind these bills because of the way they actually are passed . Well, i think what should be reassuring to All Of Us is the court in our case, holmes v. Moore looked at and examined in careful detail every fact of this particular voter i. D. Law, so it isnt a reaction to waves of Voter Suppression across the south. Those exist, and theyre a real threat, but this Opinion Today in 100 pages of factual findings examined the way in which a lame Duck Legislature that had lost power and would be subject to a Governors Veto pushed through an unnecessarily strict voter i. D. Law in eight days in a lame Duck Session and admitted that a constitutionally comprised Legislature Elected under districts that werent rabblely racially gerrymandered would never pass. Yes, the process was rushed and abnormal. We are seeing it in other places, but this opinion was properly constrained to the facts in front of the court. Helpful to understand that, and State Senator robinson, in the last minute here, youve testified at trial about how some amendments were rejected that would have allowed more forms of voter i. D. To be accepted like public assistance and make the bill more palatable. Why dont republicans go along with those kinds of ideas . Theyre always okay with Gun Licenses allowing you to vote, but not your college i. D. Or in this case the suggestions that you had. Certainly, i think its evident that there was absolutely attempt and their intent was not to allow any amendments, not to allow any opportunity because usually with a legislation like this, we have plenty of time for debate, for public input, to hear pr from citizens and to get amendments through, but their rushing this through was their intent to make sure they push it through quickly, to make sure that they still had the super majority so then the governor, you know, did not have the power to veto these bills, et cetera, and they would be able to handle this before the next election took place since they had the courts had already ruled that, of course, the districts werent constitutional. So this is what this is what happened, and you know, it was a travesty for us, but thank goodness for the courts. 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After trump was elected, the supreme Court Seat was filled by conservative neil gorsuch, and the conservative line was, well, it was appropriate for conservative antonin Scalias Seat to be filled with a conservative. And when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died literally weeks before the election, none of that reasoning applied. I know youre shocked. President trump who promised to name two Supreme Court justices who would oppose abortion rights, he literally said that on the campaign trail, he nominated amy coney barrett, who was confirmed just one week before the 2020 election. Again, remind you that Donald Trump lost. She was introduced at an event last week by Senator Mcconnell, the very politician who rammed her nomination through the senate before a president ial election. She said this, my Goal Today is to convince you that this court is not composed of a bunch of partisan hacks. Well, justice, were not convinced. You need more people. Mrs. Barrett once signed a Letter Calling for the end of the bar baric Vote Roe v. Wade. And one year after the death of rbg, the Supreme Court straight up refused to block a Texas Law prohibiting almost all abortions in that state. Joining us now is brian fallon, Cofounder And Executive director of demand justice. Also with us is melissa murray, Law Professor At Nyu and an msnbc contributor. Im really excited for this panel because i love you so, brian, im going to start with you. Supreme Court Justice Clarence thomas also spoke out this week to say that the Court Isnt political. I dont mean to laugh, but he said the justices are not ruling based on personal preferences and suggested that the nations leaders should not allow others to manipulate our institutions when we dont like the outcome that we dont get the outcome that we like. Brian, are they protesting just a little too much here . I mean, we were not born yesterday. I think theyre trolling us, i think justices like Alito And Clarence thomas and now Justice Barrett know full well the havoc politically they would be wreaking by allowing this antiabortion statute in texas to stand, and now theyre going on a Goodwill Tour attempting to put the Genie Back in the bottle claiming that the court is not political. The public is starting to call bs on this. Its far overdue. This doesnt pass the Laugh Test for these conservative justices it been out there literally Justice Barrett gave the speech youre referencing at an institute in kentucky named for Mitch Mcconnell. Mitch mcconnell literally introduced her. She was standing alongside the man who has threatened to blockade any future Biden Picks and then claiming that justices are not political actors. Come on, the only thing thats surprising to me is that a lot of Mainstream Media Outlets continue to gullibly report these. We have liberal justices, hes got a whole Book Tour out claiming that the court still needs to be viewed as an apolitical institution, and assertions otherwise are off base. I think those claims while Justice Briar are belied by the rulings like the one in texas. I think the public sides with the views of justice sotomayor, who in her dissent showed a fundamental disregard for the rule of law. Thats whats going on here, the curtain is being pulled back. The conservative justices are going to get their come up pans, there was a poll that came out two days ago that showed the Courts Approval Rating is at a low we havent seen in decades. And to that point, you know, senator Mitch Mcconnell he already said hes going to block any nominee that President Biden puts forward before 2024, and wed have to, quote, wait and see, right . So it seems to me that its Senator Mcconnell who is being quite open about the politicization of the Supreme Court. The justices dont need to tell us otherwise. We can just watch what Senator Mcconnell is doing, right, melissa . I think thats right. I think the public has seen whats going on. Weve had five republican nominated justices who were nominated by president s who failed to win the popular vote. That adds more fuel to the fire that the Supreme Court is a countermajoritarian institution. Its a Counter Majoritarian Institution by design, but the idea that minority votes can actually then go on the Supreme Court and actually Influence Policy really rankles at this point, and to have the justices stand before us and say that there is nothing political going on when we all saw what happened on September 1st in texas really feels a little bit like jurisprudential gaslighting. And brian is right, the Quinnipiac Poll that came out last week showed the justices in the court with the lowest rating it has ever had since the Quinnipiac Poll started asking the public about its views of the court and that began in 2004. This is the lowest rankings, and its not surprising giving that showing that the justices are now out on this Urs Wile Goodwill Tour. I want to turn to texas, a federal judge has denied a temporary Restraining Order on that abortion law, except theyre not saying that the abortions that are performed while the law is blocked, theyre not going to come back to that later. Brian, is that alarming . Is this decision by the court at all alarming in addition to the Supreme Court decision which went right to the heart of roe v. Wade in the first place . Well, melissa can probably speak to this better than me. My understand is theres some folks that think theres some strategy behind the district courts judges ruling here, to grant the temporary Restraining Order would allow texas to appeal this to the fifth circuit more quickly. But the fact of the matter is youre right, as i understand it, women in texas that are at risk of not being able to of being able to find places that will offer abortions because the law remains in effect, anybody that is helping those people still tried to obtain abortions, is still going to remain liable as long as the law is allowed to stand. That shows the urgency for democrats in congress to react to this in a bolder way than were seeing so far. Yes, we need Womens Protection Act passed fast. We also need a proposal that directly addresses the judiciary that is creating all these problems and encouraging these Red States like texas to pass these restrictive laws. Melissa, i wish we had more time, but we dont. Im going to follow the directions. Thank you so much for joining us tonight. It was great to have you and help to understanding this new ruling. Coming up, we need to talk about the things we dont talk about when we talk about covid19. 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Tonight were going to talk you about a Covid Headline that you really dont hear about often. Theres an Orphan Crisis in the united states, and no, thats not a line out of a charles dickens novel. Its america in 2021. Its what the cdc calls the hidden pandemic. Nearly 120,000 children across this country have lost a parent or a primary caregiver to covid19, and thats according to the cdc. The united states ranks fourth in the world with the most kids orphaned by covid deaths only behind mexico, brazil, and india. And children of color, theyre being more disproportionately affected. Black children are about 14 of this Countrys Population under the age of 18, but theyre 20 of all children who have lost a parent to covid19. Children of color are also more likely than white children to be diagnosed with disabilities that require special Attention And Care giving making the loss of those adults who care for them especially tragic. This newborn is one of the 120,000 children whose parents have died of covid19, and so are her four siblings, all of them are under the age of 7. Her mother, who was unvaccinated, was hospitalized with covid when a doctor delivered the baby. She never got to meet her youngest child before she died of covid19, and days later the dad also died. Before dying, he encouraged the family to get vaccinated for covid and the five children are now being taken care of by their grandparents. With so much discussion in the past year and a half about the impact of Learning Loss for young children after a year of remote learning, perhaps we need to also bring our attention to the crisis of their loss of Love And Family members. Joining us now is dr. Ebony hilton, an msnbc medical Contributor And Associate professor of anesthesiology and critical Care Medicine at the university of Virginia Health care systems. Also joining us renee graham, Opinion Columnist and Associate Editor at the Boston Globe and maria tumar, President And Ceo and also an msnbc contributor. Dr. Hilton, i want to start with you, one in 500 americans have died of covid19, but the racial breakdown is actually much worse than that. Sot numbers break down like this, 1 in 1,300 White Americans have died of covid, but one in 480 black americans have died, and 1 in 390 hispanics have died of covid19. Speak to how the racial breakdown is an important aspect of how this pandemic is disproportionately impacting people of color and children whose parents are dying . Right, and we know the reasons why. Theres nothing genetically different or abnormal about racial minorities in america, but what we do know is that historically there have been things that push us into those high risk categories literally because of where we eat, sleep, work, and play. If youre looking at who were infected early on during the pandemic when the rest of us were allowed to shut down and go into these Zoom Meetings as our norm, the essential workers were forced to go out and get exposed to covid19 and keep our nation afloat. And those essential workers were largely made up of black and brown children. If you look at whos at risk, were looking at those children predominantly in those republican led states, specifically in the south. And we know that 55 of all africanamericans live in the south, and what we also know is that if were looking at school districts, although we had Brown Versus Board Of Education that said that separate but equal was not ten times the budget and those of the 10 for schools. What does that lead to . Poor ventilation, it leads to overcrowding of the schools which leads to increased black and brown children being infected with covid19 if there is a chance for an outbreak. Thats what were seeing. Were seeing that black and brown children are three to five times morph likely to die from covid. That is simply unacceptable because we know that even death is not the only consequence of covid19. But permanent longstanding disability in the form of long covid. Yeah, that is a very important point. Renee, you write, i dont believe mothers, fathers or grandparents dying from covid19 wanted to damage their kids. Yet those children have been sentenced for the actions of parents and caregivers who feared the vaccine more than what might become of their children without the vaccine. What do you feel when you hear stories of unvaccinated parents dying when we as a country are struggling, like really struggling, especially this week, to convince folks to take this vaccine . I feel extraordinarily frustrated by this, because we know this doesnt have to be happening. And whats especially heartbreaking is the impact it is having on these children. The ones she was talking about earlier was a young couple in their 30s in california. The mother was a nurse but she got pregnant and didnt want to get vaccinated. She got sick. She never lived to meet her newborn daughter. Her husband died a few weeks later, and they left five children behind. This is an epidemic within the pandemic, and people arent talking about it a lot, and its been happening since the beginning of this pandemic. You know, this is not going to change. If people continually decide to not get vaccinated, this isnt going to go away, and you can be the best parent in the world, but if you are essentially an unconscientious objector to the vaccines, youre putting your children at great peril. Maria, in terms of some of the reasons why children of color and parents of color are disproportionately impacted, dr. Hilton laid out some of the real world factors and the structural reasons, but part of it is the misinformation, not just misinformation in communities of color and on Social Media platforms oram indications that they use, but also in spanish language. Speak to this issue of misinformation that is targeting these communities specifically that are being disproportionately impacted. Sadly, what renee just described, the mother who was a nurse who basically didnt want to hurt her fetus because she was afraid of the vaccine, she was clearly a target of disinformation. This is disinformation that we have been able to qualify through our partnership with Media Matters. That is something that started coming about around january and february. We flagged it for the white house, we flagged it for a. J. Just because we knew that it was going to be a problem. And sadly, this mother that just gave birth and didnt hold her child was because she didnt want to hurt her child to begin with and absorbed it. What is happening right now on the internet in english and in spanish is something that is highly orchestrated and its sadly targeting the most vulnerable among us. And we have to figure out how do we create interventions. Back in june and july, we did tons of research with Media Matters and we found that inoculation is actually possible. We identified latinos in Highdensity Latino Zip codes. We identified those people had low vaccination rates. By sending them a simple message that it wasnt going to get you sick, that you werent going to Miss A day of work and that it was free, the person who saw that ad were 54 more times likely to get a covid vaccine. What that tells me is there is not enough information in communities of color. And so what were all of a sudden relegated to is whoever gives us a message first, that may sound real based on information that is lacking. Intervention is critical right now, conversations with friends and families. You dont know how much good youre doing with this piece because youre armed with the right information so that when we see our loved ones, we can say, hey, look, this is actually whats really happening and there are forces out there on the dark web that are trying to harm us. It is something sadly that is historic in our history and now its taken a whole new level because its rooted in white supremacy. We need to make sure were speaking very clearly to our loved ones. I had to have that conversation with my mother. My mother works in health care. It took seven weeks for her to finally get it, but were able to spend time with her after a year and a half. Thats amazing. Im glad you were able to convince her. 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