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Be up for months on end again, but it is going up as of tonight because of a saturday event, an event planned for this weekend in which trump supporters are saying theyre going to converge on the Capitol Led by a former Trump Campaign Official and their convergence on the capitol this weekend is explicitly organized around them celebrating the January 6th attack and denouncing the arrests and prosecution of the people who participated in it. So as of right now we are watching these images as the fence gets moved into place and put back up around the capitol. If you know the geography of the capitol, the fenced in area will be between Independence And Constitution avenues and first street in the west and first street in the east. The u. S. Capitol police are saying this new round of fencing will come down, hopefully, very quickly after any threat poised by saturdays events has passed. Lets hope so. Well see. Nbc news reports that online discussion among trump supporters about this Weekends Event suggest a small turnout with lots of Extremist Protrump groups, Warning Followers if they come to the capitol, they will likely get arrested or put on some sort of fbi watch list. Unfortunately, thats not stopping messages like this one though, explicitly begging for violence. They are surrounding the discussions around this weeks event. This is found by Ben Collins and brandy reporting on this for msnbc. As the Washington Post has reported, d. C. Residents themselves are being told that no matter the size of the gathering this weekend, they should be on the lookout for people who have brought weapons. These flyers are going up all over downtown d. C. Over the last few days. If you see someone with a firearm, immediately call 911. But, again, we will keep an eye on this Scene Tonight as the protective fencing has started going back up the u. S. Capitol. This started moments ago. The seat of our Nations Government having to dress up like a Military Installation because of the lingering symptoms of the Trump Era in the u. S. Politics. Last Night Gavin Newsom defeated a trumpinspired Recall Effort by a landslide margin. For how much of a perception this was, what a waste of 260 Million it turned out to be for the people of california, consider Governor Newsom was first elected governor in california in 2018. In that 2018 race, he won by a gigantic margin. He won the governorship in 2018 with 69 of the vote. Last night in the recall all the votes arent in yet, but they will be coming in for a few weeks. But Last Night in the recall, the dont recall Gavin Newsom vote may have been even larger than the vote to elect him in the first place. As of right now, the dont recall Gavin Newsom vote stands at 63. 9 , which is two points higher than the vote he got to win the governorship in the first place in 2018. The republicans whole rationale doing this recall is they didnt think california was truly a blue state. They thought it was some kind of accident that Gavin Newsom became governor by a 24point Margin three years ago and surely it was an accident that Joe Biden won the president ial race there by almost 30 points last year. Surely republicans believed that california had just kind of screwed that up, didnt really mean it. California would take back the votes if they just had the chance. Turns out california did not want to take that back. In fact, they feel more emphatically opposed to republican options than ever. Keep asking, you guys. You will keep Finding Out. Part of what the republicans were banking on, i think, in terms of turning around political sentiment in california was that they were absolutely sure, absolutely sure that californians really didnt want all these policies to try to stop the spread of covid, right . Dont we all agree its terrible that we have to have these policies that people have to get vaccinated and you have to wear masks to slow the spread of the virus. Yall with me on these terrible policies . No. California does not agree with that. Exit poll data from the California Vote shows that voters in the recall believed by a very wide margin that Gavin Newsoms Vaccination And Mask policies to try to stop covid were either just about right or they should be even stronger, they werent strict enough. Those two answers together just with dwarfing the number of California Voters, the minority of California Voters who said they wanted fewer anticovid policies in place. Republican Talking Points on this are out of keeping with what the american people think on this issue. No matter how emphatic the republicans in conservative media get on this issue, the american public are not with them. Those numbers from California Jibe neatly with what we see at the national level, from conservative media figures, public elected officials, almost uniformly the american people broadly favor the kinds of policies pursued by Gavin Newsom in california, the kind of Policies President biden is pursuing nationally to try to get covid under control, and there have been a whole raft of polls rightly in the last week or so. Look today at the ipsos axios pole. 60 of the country says they are in specifically in support of the biden administrations new requirements that businesses with over 100 employees need to require either vaccination or regular Covid Testing for their employees. Thats 60 support nationwide. Even with all of the conservative media and all republican politicians screaming about that for a week now that its The End of the world, the countrys in favor of it. Today president biden met with ceos from some of the biggest countries in companies in the country to talk about implementing the new rules and keeping their big work forces safe. That comes as new cdc data shows that since the start of the epidemic the cumulative Death Toll from covid has just been staggering. One in every 500 americans have has been killed by covid. One in five americans have died from covid and counting. Over the last couple of weeks we have covered this sad and so unsettling story out of North Idaho. Hospitals in idaho, including the big ones have started rationing care, turning patients away, because of the crush of covid patients overwhelming the system. Its a terrible thing. People who otherwise would be admitted to the hospital because of emergency situation, because of an accident, because of the emergence of an acute illness, people who would otherwise be admitted to the hospital are being turned away and told the Hospital Cant take them in. And as said, that is the case right now in North Idaho. This is the front page of the paper in twin falls, idaho, in the southern part of the state. You see that top of the headline there, rationed Health Care imminent. Is thats because the whole state of idaho now says they are preparing to go to the same Crisis Standards Of Care that no room at the Inn Rationing System in North Idaho they are preparing to, panned to the Treasury U Valley region, where boise is. So thats a bad situation that is getting worse in idaho and other states, including kentucky and a few other states approaching that. Tonight we are going to be checking in with a Family Doctor whos the medical Chief Of Staff at the largest hospital in the state of alaska. Anchorage is the largest city in affect by far, and alaska, of course, is a huge farflung state with lots of small isolated communities in it. In a state like that people come to the biggest hospital in the state. They come to anchorage to the Providence Alaska medical center there. They come from all over the state for all he levels of care. Well, that hospital, that key resource for the state of alaska has gone to the Rationing System that North Idaho has been in for the past few days. The doctors at that hospital in anchorage have written a heartrending but very practical letter to the people of alaska today, advising the people of arizona what that means. The Chief Of Staff from the hospital is going to join us live in just a few minutes tonight. And further breaking News Tonight from The New York Times. Bottom line, this is a new strange development in a story that was weird from the start when we first started covering if almost five years ago. So this was a story that began just a few days before the 2016 election on halloween 2016. That Night Journalist Franklin published this. Was a Trump Server communicating with russia . Remember this from 2016 . This was a strange story that No One knew quite what to do with at the time or in the years since. Highend well respected people to their surprise had stumbled upon evidence that appeared to indicate some kind of extensive unexplained ongoing communication between a Computer Server at a kremlinconnected Russian Bank In Moscow, a bank called Alpha Bank. It was communicating with a bank at the Trump Organization at Donald Trumps business, and the importance of this story from the very beginning was basically that nobody knew what that meant. Nobody knew what this was. The headline of the story at slate was posed in the form of a question. Was a Trump Server communicating with russia . Was it . It was hard to tell, but there was something weird there. There was something unexplained and odd in the data. As a very basic matter, what the data showed, what the evidence appeared to show was just pings, Communicative Pings between these two servers, The One at the Russian Bank In Moscow and The One for the Trump Organization. Nobody could see the content of the communications or even if there was any content or substantive communication at all. It was just raw Internet Metadata that showed these computers pinging each other. And 99. 999999 of people wouldnt even know how to read that kind of data. But experts who do understand that kind of Stuff Saw it, sort of uncovered it in the wild, and thought it was a strange finding. It was unusual. Yes, it might be benign. It might be a glitch. It might be really nothing. But it was weird. And the upshot of that reporting and the reason those cybersecurity folks showed that data to reporters and walked them through it is because at the time they thought it was odd and suspicious enough it should be looked at, particularly given all the other concerning stuff that appeared to be going on at the time with russia trying to interfere in our election, russian hackers breaking into the Democratic Party and the Clinton Campaign and the rest of it. Of course, you know, In The End we would learn much more about russia actually interfering in the election, russia mounting a huge social Media Campaign to influence americans and divide americans and lead americans about the election campaign, russia not only breaking into the Democratic Party and its servers in order to steal information from the Clinton Campaign and the dnc, but to repurpose it and turn it around and weaponize it and try to use it to greatest effect to help Donald Trump try to get elected president. We would learn lots more about that in years to come. Not to mention all that we learned about the Trump Campaigns apparent willingness to engage covertly with the russian government while the russian government was engaged in activities like that on their behalf. Weve still never had a proper explanation as to why trumps Campaign Chairman at the time fed private nonpublic proprietary polling data in the middle of the campaign to a russian intelligence officer. They concluded it was involved in the efforts by russia to influence the election on trumps behalf. All of that came out in the following years. At time before the 2016 election on halloween 2016 this thing about these weird communications between Trump Organization servers and the russian bank servers was basically a note of intrigue, and it was never conclusively determined to be anything. It remained just sort of a Sidebar Point of interest, an unexplained thing in the Russia Investigation that never got resolved. When Robert Mueller wrote his report, he ignored the Alpha Bank matter entirely. The Senate Intelligence Committee when they wrote their determinative report they said the contacts between the Trump Organization and the Alfa Bank, at least the contacts between their servers, they said they were unusual contacts, but they said their investigators could never positively conclude what those contacts might have been. The closest the whole thing ever came to any sort of apparent resolution was in this hotly contested story in The New York Times came out at the same time the Slate Story did. What The Times reported at the time was that the fbi looked into this matter. They spent several weeks looking into the matter and ultimately concluded there could be innocuous explanations for the contacts. But that was basically that. That was basically how to resolved. Alfa bank and its kremlinconnected executives have always vociferously denied the allegations that they had anything to do with the Trump Campaign or any kind of election interference. In fact, Alpha Bank claimed in a pair of lawsuits that the allegations or the intimations in this reporting were all some sort of giant frameup. They claimed that these Computer Scientists, these Computer Researchers fabricated these Server Communication records in order to smear their Company And Smear the Trump Campaign. Heres where we get to tonights Breaking News because that quite baroque theory that the unexplained server lookups between this bank and the Trump Organization, you know, they are not evidence of a and not innocuous pings. It was fabricated, orchestrated by the Clinton Campaign and the democrats and the deep state to frame Donald Trump by inventing out of whole Cloth A super hard to understand totally unclear random Server Ping technical conspiracy that No One understands, i mean, it sounds outlandish, sounds pointless to you and me, right . If you are going to frame somebody, this isnt how you would do it. You would make it so it was something people could understand. Not this confusing bit of metadata that nobody could ever interpret, right . Thats been Alfa Banks theory that theyve been pursuing in the courts, and the Trump Justice Department appears to have sort of run with that, and were just now tonight starting to see the results of that, even though its eight months since the Trump Administration left office. This John Durham. He was a State Attorney in connecticut. A month after the Mueller Report, Bill Bair gave John Durham a new task. He told him to go out and examine where the trump Russia Investigation came from in the first place. This was Something Trump had been demanding for a long time. There is no Russia Investigation. Anybody who says the Russia Thing out to be investigated. They investigated. So barr gave durham this remit. Dig up some investigation which culminated in the Mueller Report was bogus, cooked up by false pretences by the antitrump Deep Staters or the Clinton Campaign or ukraine, whatever you can find to support trump, he is insistent that the whole thing was a hoax, that the whole thing was, in fact, a crime against him. And you might not have heard this. You may not have heard John Durhams name if you dont regularly consume rightwing media, but on the Fox News Channel and republican lawmakers have been constantly heralding what the Durham Investigation was going to reveal. All of the people who were going to go to jail for investigating Trump And Russia, for, in their words, you know, ginning up this supposedly false trump russian investigation. John durham was going to find all these people and blow the Russia Hoax wide open, lock her up, lock her up. President trump frequently tweeted about John Durham and the Durham Investigation apparently furious that Durham Hadnt put on a report before the 2020 election, Something Attorney general Bill Bair Pressured Durham to do. Since out of office, where is durhams damning report . Where are the indictments . Why are my enemies not in handcuffs . Years the Durham Investigation has been the Holy Grail for trump and his supporters the thing that will expose the Russia Investigation some crime against trump that itself must be avenged. One of the Angles Durham has been working on that Alfa Bank and the Trump Organization were framed by Computer Scientists who supposedly found communications between the servers, Computer Scientists who discussed those communications and passed it on to The Press and passed it on to the fbi for investigation. Here is what has broken tonight in The New York Times. Quote, John Durham, Special Counsel appointed by the Trump Administration to scrutinize the Russia Investigation, has told the Justice Department that he will ask a Grand Jury to indict a prominent cyber Security Lawyer on a charge of making a false statement to the fbi. Any indictment of the lawyer, michael sussman, a former federal prosecutor, now a partner the Perkins Coie Law Firm who rented the dnc on issues related to russias 2016 hacking of the servers, is likely to attract significant political attention. The case centers on the question who his client was when he conveyed certain suspicions about Trump And Russia to the fbi in september 2016. Investigators have examined whether he was secretly working for the Clinton Campaign, which he denies. His lawyers tell The Times, quote, he has committed to climb. Any prosecution would be baseless, unprecedented and an unwarranted deviation from the apolitical and principled way in which the Department Of Justice is supposed to do the work. The acquisition against sussmann focuses on a meeting he had in 2016 with the fibs top lawyer at the time, james baker. At the Meeting Sussmann relayed data and information from Cybersecurity Researchers who thought that odd Internet Data might be evidence of a covert Communications Channel between Computer Service associated with the Trump Organization and those associated with Alfa Bank, a kremlin linked financial institution. Sussmanns lawyers have told doj that he sought that meeting with the fbi because he and the Cyber Security researchers believed The New York Times was on the verge of publishing an article about the Alfa Bank data and they wanted to give the fbi a headsup. Durham did apparently find an inconsistency as pertains to mr. Sussmann. James baker the former Fbi Lawyer is said to have told investigators that he recalled sussmann telling him that he was not meeting him to convey this information on behalf of any client, but in a deposition before, congress in 2017, sussmann testified that he did seek that Fbi Meeting on behalf of a client, an unnamed client who was a cyber Security Expert who had helped analyze the data. So like i said, this is a weird development in the story that has been weird from the beginning. According to what The New York Times is reporting tonight, what John Durham, this trumpappointed, right, Bill Barrappointed Special Counsel, what he is preparing to do is charge this cyberSecurity Lawyer, michael sussmann, with having told someone at the fbi that he was not representing a client when, in fact, he was representing a client. He conveyed this information, this Suspicion Information to the fbi. Hey, this has national security concerns. Hey, this is about to be in The Press. The fbi ought to look into this. Here is the data that we think is basically what The New York Times has, that reporters are about to put out to the public. This has national security implications. Here, fbi, you should have it. And the basis for the prosecution, at least as reported by The New York Times, is that when sussmann did that, he told them, im handing this over not on behalf of a client. He says that he was doing it on behalf of his Cybersecurity Client who had dug up this suspicious data in the first place, but the suspicion planted by John Durham and company was that actually sussmann was secretly representing the hillary Clinton Campaign when he handed on this information of the fbi. There is reportedly evidence that sussmann billed some of his work to the Clinton Campaign at some point, his large firm was representing the Clinton Campaign at the time. His lawyers say there is an innocuous explanation for that. Here is the key point about this investigation. Quote, some of the questions that durhams team have been asking in recent months, including of witnesses it subpoenaed before a Grand Jury, suggests hes been pursuing a theory that the Clinton Campaign used their Law Firm to submit dubious information to the fbi about Russia And Trump to gin up investigative activity to hurt his 2016 campaign. Quote, there has been no public sign that he has found any evidence of that theory. So what that apparently leaves durham with is a lawyer who gave some the fbi some information he says he thought they should have. The fbi chased that down and decided, eh, its probably nothing. And maybe that lawyer, there is some question as to whether he fully revealed who he was representing at that time . Does It Matter who he was representing at the time . As for why this case is being brought now, well, look at the clock. The meeting in question here happened on september 19th, 2016. Whats Todays Date . September 15th, 2021. Because of a fiveyear statute of limitations for such cases, mr. Durham has a deadline of this weekend to bring a charge over activity from that date. Literally the statute of limitations, i think, expires on sunday. Here it is wednesday, and hes rushing to get this done before the statute of limitations expires. This indictment has apparently not been filed yet. We do not have all the facts yet. Whether this lawyer told the Fbi Something untrue, whether It Matters who his client was when he gave this information for the fbi for them to look into, that may be hashed out in court. But The Big Picture here, the substance of the suspicion around the Alfa Bank stuff is that this might be evidence of some means of covert communication between u. S. President Ial Campaign and a foreign entity that was trying to influence our election. I mean, if you came across that, if you had some cyber Security Expert guy who was your client and he brought you that data, whether you were working for Hillary Clinton or you were working for Donald Trump or you were working for freaking donald duck, if you were a Computer Scientist or experienced cyber Security Lawyer who have the Cyber Security chops to know what that data meant, what the Worstcase Scenario about this would mean in terms of our national security of the country, the responsible thing do is take it to the fbi. Hopefully, any One Of Us who came across data like this and didnt know what it meant but worried it could be something serious two take it the fbi. Thats what they tell you to do. If you see something, say something, right . That seems like the right thing to docks understandable thing to do in this circumstance, right . The Special Counsel appointed by Bill Barr left in place during the biden administration and apparently left room to roam by attorney general Merrick Garland is trying to criminalize that act. See something, say something . If you said something about Donald Trump, well try to put new jail. Joining us now is barbara mcquade, former u. S. Attorney. Thank you very much for being here. Thank you. Its great to be with you. We started covering this five five years ago, and it never came to anything in terms of the substance of this. Nobody ever seems to have figured out whether there was anything going on between Alfa Bank and the Trump Organization. Because of that, the story has lingered and the loosened interest been frayed and out there in the wind all of this time. That said, regardless of the underlying suspicions that gave rise to this as a story in the first place, what is your opinion of the strength of the legal case here . The prospect of this lawyer being indicted for having brought this stuff to the fbi . Well, i guess i would withhold judgment until i see what the case says and what the facts are that its based on. We have some reporting. I guess i dont know if we know the whole story. Based on the reporting i hear, i dont hear any evidence of the essential element of materiality. That is, you know, not every false statement is a crime. Only the important ones. You know, if you lie about some irrelevant detail, that doesnt matter. So i dont know that there is evidence that he is lying at all. But even if he is about whether he was there on behalf of no client or he was there on behalf of a cyber expert, it really doesnt matter. When you have information about a crime, the fbi takes it in and assesses it based on its value. Some things, you know, seem like it is not worthy of further investigation. People call the fbi all day, every day to say, you know, little green martians are interfering with my thoughts. They dont investigate those. But other cases they take seriously, they do investigate. The fact that you brought it whether youre representing a client or are not representing a client, i dont think is material to this. Its especially rich in light of the fact that these investigators at doj who are looking at the Russia Matter in defense of president trump, in the michael flynn case, dismissed that case because they found that his statements were not material. And you remember that he lied to the fbi about what he said to the russian ambassador during the transition time. If those arent material, its really difficult to see how this omission or false statement is in any Way Material here. Barbara, it also strikes me, again, looking at this as a nonlawyer, the statute of limitations is The End of the week. Its a fiveyear statute of limitations. It appears to expire this weekend. Should we read into that . Does that suggest anything about the strengths or merits of the case given that durham is against clock and the fact that the details of at least this indictment that theyre seeking appears to have been spelled out in a lot of detail to The Press . Yeah, i dont know. You get that fifth year because you get the fifth year. That time is part of it. It may be they wanted to make sure they have taken every step. It may be that Merrick Garland requested a detailed review of this all the way up the chain and that has taken so long. But it does tend to suggest that they have worked very, very hard and this is all theyve got, which doesnt sound like much. Again, i do want to reserve judgment until we see all the facts because it could be, as so often happens, that the first charge is not the lat charge, that this is the first charge and its an effort to obtain leverage over someone to attempt to obtain their cooperation, to see if there is more information you can charge. But the statute of limitations is going to be butting up any other charges they decide to file as well. I also think this whole theory about that the origins of the Russia Investigation were some political propaganda or something, that has already been dispelled. In 2019 we had the department of Justice Inspector general issue a report that says it was properly predicated. Even John Durham himself, although he gave a misleading public statement at the time that said he disagreed with the conclusions when he was pressed on that, what he said was i think it was properly opened as a preliminary investigation. I would not have opened it as a full investigation, which is a really bureaucratic difference. And so the fact that it was properly predicated on the basis of these stolen emails that George Papadopoulos bragged about to a diplomat, its hard to see how any of this is material, even if there is a technical Omission Or Lie here. It also causes me to wonder why Merrick Garland is allowing this to happen. He has the ability to pull the plug on this. Again, maybe there are more facts that we just dont know, but i worry that he is so concerned about appearing to be independent or nonpartisan that hes bending over backward to a fault. Barbara mcquade, former u. S. Attorney, somebody whos never, ever been hyperbolic in the conversations ive had with you. Thats a serious thing to say. Thanks for being here. Thanks for your clarity. Thanks, rachel. Much more ahead tonight. Stay with us. Rcreme arthritis. Full prescriptionstrength . Reduces inflammation . Thank the gods. 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Justice department sued texas saying its a violation to the constitutional right to get an abortion no matter which of the 50 states you live in. While filing that lawsuit maybe In The End could result in a judge knocking down the texas abortion ban, the initial filing of that lawsuit by the doj a week ago does nothing in the short term to try to put Texas Law on pause, to try to stop it while its litigated in court. Now thats changed. In an Emergency Motion filed shortly before midnight Last Night the Justice Department has now asked the judge in this case to temporarily block the enforcement of texas abortion ban. Not later at The End of the day when the lault ultimately gets resolved, but now while the challenges to it are pending. And the Dojs Filing is filled with these stories about women who had to drive for hours and sell their stuff to try to get an abortion out of state now that its illegal to get one in the state where they live. The Judge Tonight did Schedule A Hearing to decide whether he is going to act on this Emergency Motion to stop the Texas Ban to let women in texas get abortions again. He has scheduled a hearing on this Emergency Motion for two and a half weeks from now. October 1st. No rush. No rush. And wake up refreshed. The brand i trust is qunol. Shortly before midnight Last Night the Justice Department asked a federal judge to temporarily block the enforcement of texas new law that essentially bans all abortions in the state. The Judge Tonight has just said he will get around to deciding whether or not to grant that Emergency Motion two and a half weeks from now. Thats when he will decide whether or not to be act on an emergency basis. Meantime, the constitution remains suspended for texas women. Joining us now is nancy nor up. President and ceo for the center. Thanks for being here tonight. Thank you. And thank you so much, rachel, for beginning with those stories from the motion, because it shows what is happening on the ground the last two weeks that the law has been in effect what do you think of the strength of the Justice Departments case against the Texas Ban, and what do you make of this new request for a restraining order, an injunction against enforcing the ban . It seems like the judge is, obviously, going to consider it, but on Nobodys Idea of a quick timeline . Well, its a very strong case that the Department Of Justice has. They have directly sued texas for violating the constitutional rights of texans. This is a clear violation of the constitution. You cannot ban abortion at six weeks. We have as the Department Of Justice papers made clear 48 years of unbroken precedent about the right of people to make these decisions for themselves. So its a strong case and they filed their motion for preliminary Injunction Yesterday full of whats actually happened on the ground. I mean, when all of us sued texas, you know, back earlier this year, it was before the law went into effect, and we said these were going to be the effects if it happened. Now the Department Of Justice has the actual testimony about what has happened in the two weeks and they are just heartbreaking stories. It is disappointing that the judge is not going to hear this until the 1st Of October because, as you pointed out, that is going to be a whole month that texans have been deprived of their constitutional rights. The harm on the ground is real and severe. Im interested both legally and practically also from what were learning in our reporting on this and talking to people in the field about how the material effects here are, obviously, happening to Texas Women Seeking Abortion and now cant get it because its effectively outlawed in the state, and abortion providers, Health Care providers in not just neighboring states that abut texas, but even states one or two tiers beyond that where theres this Rippling Effect happening starting with texas in the middle of the country, moving out to lots of other states where Abortion Clinics are filling up, where people are going further and further to get affecting Peoples Ability to access care even neighboring states. It seems like its having a knockon immediate effect of significant consequence that might potentially bring other people into these sorts of cases as plaintiffs. Well, yes. What is clear in the papers that followed the Department Of Justice, talking to colleagues in michigan, in new york, long distances, they are seeing patients from texas. Testimony from the clinic in oklahoma that they now have delays of up to three weeks, which is not the ordinary case, because they are making room for the texans coming in. The rights of people in other states are being violated. Access in other states is getting harder because of this deprivation of rights in texas. But i want to note, there is a good development, which is next week, the House Of Representatives is going to vote on the Womens Health Protection act. This is legislation which would address whats happening in texas, whats happening in the Mississippi Case going to the supreme court. Its a huge and enormous step to have this vote In The House next week. Nancy northup, thanks for being here. I appreciate it. Thank you. We have more ahead tonight. Stay with us. 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Were writing to you as the medical Executive Committee at Providence Alaska medical center where an apolitical body of physicians represents the physicians. Each of us is a member of the alaskan community that live, work and play here. Our children attend school here. At this time we feel we have an ethical obligation to be transparent and share with the public the distressing reality of what is happening inside the walls of the hospital. Our caregivers are doing their best as they have been for the past 18 months, but while were doing our utmost, were unable to provide the standard of care to those who need our help. Its hard to staff caregivers. Weve been forced to implement Crisis Standards Of Care. What does this mean . In short, were faced with a situation in which we must prioritize scarce treatments to the patients that have the potential to benefit most and were required to develop and enact policies and procedures to Ration Care and ventilators including dialysis. People from around alaska depend on providence for people statewide. Unfortunately, were unable to meet this need. We dont have the staff, space or beds. Due to the scarcity, were unable to provide lifesaving care to everybody that needs it. The Emergency Room is overflowing and patients wait for hours to see a physician for Emergency Care. On a daily basis our Transfer Center is unable to accept patients that sit in Emergency Rooms and the current facility is unable to provide f. You need Specialty Care like a cardiologist, Trama Surgeon or neurosurgeon, we sadly may no have room now. There are no more staffed beds left. The letter goes on to encourage basically beg alaskans to wear a mask and if youre exposed to get tested and stay home and get vaccinated and quote, lastly, avoid potentially dangerous activities and situations that may increase your risk for needing Emergency Services and hospital care. Unfortunately, if youre seriously injured its possible there wont be a bed available in our Drama Center to save your life, signed by the Chief Of Staff on the medical Executive Committee at Providence Alaska medical center, again, the largest hospital in alaska. Joining us, thank you for taking the time to be with us tonight. Thanks for letting us feature this scary situation happening at your hospital. I imagine this is a traumatic time. Its quite traumatic. I feel like im very grateful to be here and be able to share this message more broadly. Were really struggling at our hospital, and our physicians felt the need to reach out and really implore the community to do their part and get vaccinated and take really good care of themselves so that we can continue to take care of patients. When i describe Providence Alaska medical center as the largest hospital in the state and as a key resource in the state, can you explain more what that means . Obviously, alaska is unique in terms of its geography and spread. Is providence the kind of hospital that people come to from all over the state, not only because of they might live somewhere where there isnt a major horngts but even if they live somewhere where there is a hospital, it might not have the Resources Providence has . Exactly. Were the largest hospital in the state. We accept transfers from small communities and our critical access hospitals that are out in small, a little bit larger communities like billingham. Patients who get sick out there and have a cardiology need, if they need a Cardiology Catheterization or cabbage, any of those surgeries, if they have a stroke and need specialized neurologic care with our neurologic interventionalists, those people are waiting in their communities and are being held in the e. R. S where they are living in order to wait for a bed to come into providence. And once people get to providence, its just took me aback to read the description reported in The New York Times today as described in your letter of people being told to wait in their cars even when they come for Emergency Care at providence, if they can physically get to providence, to in the Emergency Room, people are sometimes waiting in their cars for hours even before they can be seen in the e. R. That just seems untenable. It seems so unlike what you must be used to providing in terms of modern medicine. Exactly. NOne Of Us signed up and thought we would be practicing these conditions, and we do have, you know, an incredible staff. Our e. R. Physicians are working as hard as they can and nurses are doing everything they can. Yesterday we had ten patients in beds in the e. R. That were waiting admission. Three of them were Icu Level Care and didnt have an icu bed. We didnt have beds for those patients. Meanwhile, while theyre there, the other patients are waiting in the Waiting Room and their cars to be seen. In their cars. Just remarkable. The Chief Of Staff at alaska medical center, such a difficult time. Thank you for helping us understand tonight. Please keep us apprised. Wed love to have you back, particularly if there is a Response Interest the people of alaska. Wed love to spread the word and talk about it. Thank you. Thank you. Well be right back. Stay with us. Thank you. Well be right back stay with us 1 for Psoriasis Symptom Relief and 1 for eczema Symptom Relief Gold Bond Champion your skin every day, coventry helps people get cash for their Life Insurance policies they no longer need. Im an anesthesiologist and a Pain Physician by specialty. I was trying to figure out what i could do with this term Life Insurance Policy. Im sorta stuck because i cant just go out and buy more insurance, because of my diagnosis. I called Coventry Direct and everything clicked. 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