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Supported we will do that. Well look at the sourcing inside the department, as to what is most appropriate. Local officials in washington d. C. Are also on high alert for this coming weekend. All City Police officers will be on duty, all leaves canceled. Assistance had been requested from Police Officers in surrounding areas. There is an nbc News Report Tonight that only 700 people are expected to attend the Rally But Nobody knows, really. The Insurrection Enthusiasts have been whipped up into thinking that the one six riders who have been rounded up in, joe are somehow Freedom Fighters now. The rallies organizers is a former trump campaign operative, and pressure of the big lie, who says, this will not be a repeat of january six. Weve got a large people of crowd. Nobody is going to be bringing a weapon, that is going to be a part of our crab, we can assure the police. That about a mile or so from the capital, the President Today focused on convincing some skeptical democrats to back his sprawling 3. 5 trillion dollar economic plan. Senators Joe Manchin of West Virginia and kirsten cinema, of arizona, were both invited to the White House. Neither have been shy about criticizing the plans price tag, and mention of course has called on democratic leaders to delay voting on it. Those leaders have some tough times ahead, it should be noted, if they try to pass the bill, plus infrastructure, plus keeping the government running by the october one deadline, plus whatever else it is the congress has to do. The White House is also having to navigate the controversy and golfing our nations highest ranking military officers, this new book by Washington Post Bob Woodward And Robert costa described joint Chief Of Staff general mark milley. Gathering top officers after the January Insurrection to review the nuclear launch protocols. They also write, he sought to reassure a chinese general, his counterpart, but then President Trump would not launch a military strike. Today in a statement, Milley Spokesperson did not deny the conversations, instead calling them quote, vital to improving understanding of u. S. National security interest. Reducing tensions, providing clarity, and avoiding Unintended Consequences or conflict. He added General Milley continues to act and advise within his authority in lawful tradition of civilian control of the military, and his old to the constitution. Trumps ally in Capitol Hill are accusing milley of treason, because they can. And some lawmakers are demanding that he resign, or be fired today the current president stood by the Chairman. Reporter i have great confidence in General Milley. General milley will No Doubt be asked about all of this, when he testifies before the senator on Services Committee next week. Also tonight new data on the devastating toll of the pandemic, Nbc News recording The Virus has now won in every 500 americans. One out of every eight americans have become infected. Today both Pfizer And Moderna released their new research to try and make a case for Booster Shots. They warned the Vaccine Immunity may fade overtime. On friday the Fdas Vaccine advisory group will review Pfizers Request to okay Booster Shots ahead of the administration, expected rollout of the Booster Shots. And a footnote, hear a lot of people are already getting their Booster Shots, regardless of what the fda says, or things. There is one other story that is developing tonight. Axios is now reporting the former Vice President Mike Pence, is as expected, preparing for a run for president in 2024. And hopes to raise all of 18 Million this year, we will see what his former boss has to say about that before long. Before that, lets bring up our Starting Line on this wednesday, night white House Correspondent for Pbs News our, moderator of Washington Week also on pbs, Peter Baker, veteran Journalist Officer of chief House Correspondent for the new york times, and John Heilemann our national affairs analyst, and also cohost, and Executive Producer of the circus on showtime, Executive Editor over at the recount and in his spare time host of the Podcast Hell and highwater. Good Evening And Welcome to you, all peter i like to begin with you, with the help of these to interact rooms now in the actual release of the, book General Milley has walked right into this trap, with a huge destruction was needed by the other side. Is it not true that since the days of the cold war, people with the rank of a General Milley, have talked to their counterpart overseas, by way of trying to keep the world a safer place, and maintain that dialogue for years and years. Yes that is exactly right, brian you and i have been long enough around to see that this is not unusual, a Chairman would joined seeds, who speaks with china and russia, in other parts of the, world in order to prevent misunderstandings, in order to prevent accidental war, in other words to say heres what we are, doing here is what you are not to worry about with. Us right after 9 11, they did that with [inaudible] because they specifically did not want the russians to think that the buildup that we wanted to pose a 9 11, and russians did not want to in this case we have General Milley saying that is counterparts in china, his counterparts in other countries as, well basically that we are going to be okay back here in. America what is unusual, is the reason in the context in which he was. Doing which is to say he had a erratic President Of The United States who was trying to find a way to stay in office even though he had been voted out. And General Milley was trying to reassure the outside world, that we are still here, that we are not going to do anything rash here, stay calm. Now you heard republicans say, General Milley was taking it upon himself to have his own Foreign Policy, well that is rather remarkable, because as i understand, and what General Milley was telling us leader, is that we are not going to war with china. And as far as i understand that was the american Foreign Policy, unless president General Milley was certainly keeping aligned with the policy as it existed at that time, he was simply trying to avoid obvious misunderstanding. Thank you for that clarity on that. And even though indeed senator jon had no relation, predicting that biden will eventually throw milley under the bus to cover for this and the afghanistan withdrawal, there were Defenses Today from the White House, from the president , from the podium at the pentagon. Are you aware of any other conversations going on . Well the White House at this point is really presenting a United Front in saying that the president is confident in the leadership right now of General Milley. And of course that is what i am hearing from my sources the Press Secretary said that himself, but thats being said things can change. But it doesnt look like things are changing. The thing to remember is while these were in some ways, meetings that people often have at the rank of general, milley i think it is still extraordinary that the actual conversation that were had, that i can confirm for my own, reporting that General Milley on january 8th, two days after the capitol. Was on the horse within that that former President Trump was crazy that is extraordinary there are people who are continuing to underscore, that General Milley, who is a political and not focused on republicans or democrats, but here he is on the phone with the chief opponent of former President Trump, somebody who is not even speaking to at the time because how Speaker Nancy Pelosi impeached him not once, but twice. So for General Milley to say that i agree with everything that you are saying, when she is calling the president crazy, tells you the level of anxiety, and level of concern that he and other military leaders had when it came to president. Trump unless remember, this isnt just backwards looking, former President Trump is still the leader of the republican party. He can run again, january six. There are a lot of people who are. Worried that could be foreshadowing for what comes next thats even. Or so i think for this really underscores the volatility that were still living with today. What a great point you make yamiche alcindor. And john over to you. We can read with the House Beaker said on the transcription of the phone call. But lets talk about the democrats, as we remember the culturally they are earnest Student Council President is not a War Town Council among them. But what about the potentially vocal democrats, reminding the greater world as much as we want to hear, it just how dark things were. This was a colonel cooks situation, that was presented to the Chairman of the joint chief. In the pentagon without a Senate Confirm Secretary of defense. Right, and i think brian, that this is not as crazy as it was at the. Time and i do think that the main takeaway from this, if you take the woodward crossed and you match it up with all the other reportings of these excellent journalists who published books in recent months in this timeframe is that we are much closer to the brink of some kind of catastrophe. Or at least that was the perception of many John Heilemann senior, a special National Security officials, in the trump administration, in the military. In the non politically aligned bureaucracy. That was. Understood and i think a lot of people felt unnerved by what was going on at the time, trumps behavior was unnerving. It was objectively unnerving. And i think when Nancy Pelosi i think he saw her more as the speaker of the house of representative ohn eilemann. Then as donald Trump Ohn eilemanns an emmy or i think he was related to her on that, level so we all now come to realize that there was a greater agreement than the apparel at the time. Then any One Of Us understood at the. Time but i will say this is not a precedent scenario, and i think we would cost a note in those, that we all remember, at least from the History Books if not living through it that back in the nixon administration, when Richard Nixon was publicly unhinged, or these privately unhinge, and could be seem to be unhinged by people around, him start talking to the paintings of the White House walls, drinking excessively up the. Time that gyms listener, secretary of defense, did a very similar thing to what General Milley, did which was to go and say that guys, there needs to be a fail safe here. Theres gotta be a process, the goal to be a procedure, we cannot get into any kind of provoked, or ill tempered, or deranged kind of Foreign Policy conflict. Im going to take it upon myself so that this doesnt. Have been so this is not even in president did, it is not unprecedented in history. There is a strong president in the nixon area. About would General Milley did. Peter breaker lets turn to a subjects slightly less exhausting, and that is california politics, a large number of people who turned out to cast their votes against the recall in effect for the incumbent governor listed the pandemic, as looming large in their list of issues. Does this splash over to help the biden right house in any way . Well, it has been used by the democrats as a repudiation of trumpism, of anti vaccine, of anti Public Health messages. But i think we ought to be careful about over reading into. It is california. It is a very blue state. Governor Newsom Lung the elections with the 62 landslide just a couple of years. Ago the idea that he held on Today Shouldnt be that much of a surprise. The fact that it was even a surprise to be that he was even in danger was a sign of how loyal our politics have been in the middle of this pandemic. There was a lot of people blaming him for some of the things that he had done. Until things seem to have been getting better in california. We need to give more credit for the things that he has gotten done earlier. On he obviously had it on the other directions that the republicans come close to taking him out of the, action that was either alive side or an earthquake in american politics. But democrats are going to obviously use this to the best extent of the, cant to Mix And Momentum and see that the spirit of trumpism is a lie. That there is a message here about Public Health can be translated to other states. John, peter, and the four of us know that we are paid to override the results of every election ever held, and apply forward to every next election in the hopper, to that and, Peters Paper writes it this way, the recall does offer at least one lesson to democrats in washington ahead of next years midterm elections. The parties preexisting blue and purple State Strategy of portraying republicans at trump loving extremists, can still prove effective with the former president out of office, at least one the strategy is a executed with unrelenting discipline, and im the lunch of money, and an opponent who plays to type. John, do you buy . That and do you buy, at rich Times 500 well i think that a great job, that youre setting a piece, im out in california have been out here all week as you know this is my home state, and ive watched Gavin Newsom by through this whole thing. What we pay pretty close attention, to that there is No Doubt, i was with news in just a couple of hours, ago and theres No Doubt that people around the governor have been seeing prior to when Joe Biden s instituted his Vaccine Mandate last, week that they were telling washington, guys, you need to be more mailin ton about vaccines. It is the right thing to do for public. Health and there is a winning hand to play here politically. That was the message to sacramento to the biden administration. The biden image administration went and did it. Provoke the backlash that weve seen in the. Corner and since biden was out of here on monday night. That conversation has continued between Governor Newsom and president biden. And Governor Newsom continues to trumpet still in Joe Bidens back. And says that you must get this virus under control. Indian that is the best politics. You can survive some opposition from a small minority. And thats the case here in california. Its in the job that martins, point i think What Newsom would say, and what he did in fact say to, me the interview that will be in the circus on sunday, night he said yes it is true, that we played the trump card, that Larry Elder was Character Trouble as a Donald Trump. As a mini Donald Trump aaron. California but many republicans, fall into that category. That is one of the quarter of the republican party is right now, at the question of vaccine. Mandates mask, and other things and. So that maybe more broadly applicable strategy, then just a blue straight strategy, were just a california. Strategy given where the public party, is and that is why california democrats are trying to say about the biden administration. To answer those 535 races to say democrat. There is good politics in doing the right thing a public held. Its a 75 , issue go for it, be tough. And that, we will see what will happen in california stays in california or not. Yamiche alcindor gets the last word tonight, and lets put it im just concerned about this rally on saturday, between now and when we settle down to watch you on Washington Week as all decent americans should every week. Do you think youll be more concerned or less as the week goes on . As the event approaches . Is it going to fizzle out, or will it be obscene . For one i think its amazing that americans should be watching, every friday. So i appreciate you saying. That in terms of the concerns of the rally, i think the real sign that there is a Security Threat coming to d. C. Is starting to up the ante. So tonight we saw Fencing Golf around the capitol. In some way towards the city a sort of ptsd. Because we already mentor why the fencing went up in the first. Plays it was the first rally in january six. When we saw people breaking and chased the president , nearly hang Mike Pence in, and tried to kill, and want to kill Nancy Pelosi house speaker. The issue is whether or not this rally will really live up to the real fears of people. I suspected to answer would really lie in what people will actually do when they get. There and i think thats a big question that we wilL Talking about on washington. We how is the preparation. Going it seems as though now after we have this robust conversation over security, that we are doing what the federal government, understands, that they are over prepared for this. That we hope when it comes to this rally. But the real tinderbox of people that are coming with misinformation, who are believing lies. Also in some ways motivated by the idea of White Supremacy based on some of the Capitol Police officers own testimonies calling the January 6th rally a wide national list gathering. All of those things put together, that makes it a very volatile situation. So even if it is a couple of people who step out of line, that can really go bad very quickly. So i think the closer this gets to the, the more anxious that we get, from my sources where im talking about to people how preparations are. Going i feel like i owe Peter Baker promotion, i will say that the support both he and his wife wrote, biography of James Baker is available on paperback. We are much obliged to our Starting Line, thank you friend for starting off our conversation this wednesday night. Coming up for us more on the lessons for both parties after Gavin Newsom easily survives in california, and later. After spending nearly two years battling The Virus on behalf of others. One of our favorite physicians around here. Is blaming the vaccine of others for the fact that hes got The Virus now. He will in fact join us from quarantine tonight. All of it as the 11th Hour is just getting underway, on this wednesday evening, with the flags of the foot of the washington monument, marking those souls we have lost to this pandemic. Pandemic. Pandemic. It protects the 8 areas dentists check for a healthier mouth. The 1 Toothpaste Brand in america. Crest. You know how some carriers give you so little for your old or busted phone, you just end up living with it . I dont think so. Verizon lets you trade in your broken phone for a shiny new one. You break it. We upgrade it. 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So that right there republican candidate, and arguing trump are elder larry, despite an overwhelming california voters, who seemingly prefer that elder instead spend more time with his family. Charlie sakes of the post questions this way the California Fiasco will probably not be enough to prompt the sort of introspection that republican so desperately need. But as 2024 looms, it provides one more reason for republicans to ask themselves, do they really want to do this again . With us tonight our two friends eugene robertson, columnist for the washington ten polls, and Stewart Stevens A Veteran And George w. Bush president effort, his latest book is it was all a lie. How the republican party became Donald Trump. And do it indeed i would like to begin with you to your view of any lessons learned in california that could be applied across the country, and a Rhetorical Question will the republicans ever see and recognize and identify and off ramp for trumpism . Or are they going to just keep going with trump like candid in interviews is like this one. I think the hard thing for a lot of things to accept is that the republican party is very comfortable being a Trump Party for the most part. It is not in every Trump Ella meant in the republican party. This is what they want to be. Whats in california, not that long ago the california was the Beating Heart of the. And here you have Somebody Running with no ideology, no different, except he was accusing the governor of california doing to much to protect the citizens. Thats like a very strange platform to run for governor. On a kind of productive platform. This is where republicans. One and i think its a good message to the democrats that they should try to nationalize this raised. And make it a referendum on democracy and big stuff. Eugene, about the democrats, the four mention of collection of earnest Student Council President wearing sensible shoes. Do you think they have the discipline to paint every opponent in every congressional race, as a trump, or in theory to try and tie the republican opponents, to this party, that stewart just described. . You know brian, sometimes its a long and lonely battle to get democrats to take yes for an. Answer but this is a pretty resounding yes. A pretty overwhelming blueprint actually for [inaudible] and years californias very democratic state. But the republicans got creamed yesterday. They got obliterated. The democrats with this, stressed that they ran against Donald Trump in the prison of Larry Elder and they were in favor of do know, aggressively trying to defeat the covid epidemic. And turned out to be very popular and were extremely popular position of california. I think theyre going to be popular in a lot of. Waves and yes the discipline was important. And you know will democrats be that disciplined . I dont know. But they should have, they should take this as instructive. They should tell them a lot about how the city perceive in [inaudible]. All right both of these gentlemen have agreed to stay with, us we have it in a break Coming Up on that conversation continues, some republicans are accusing a four Star General of treason. Supporters say he was responding to a clear and present danger. It just happens to be a tailor made controversy for the right. We wilL Talk about it when we come back. K. When you really need to sleep you reach for the really good stuff. New Zzzquil Ultra helps you sleep better and longer when you need it most. Its non habit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil. New Zzzquil Ultra. When you really really need to sleep. Its the biggest sale of the year, on the new Sleep Number 360 smart bed. Its the most comfortable, duallyadjustable, footwarming, temperaturebalancing, proven Quality Night Sleep weve ever made. Save 50 on the new Sleep Number 360 limited edition smart bed, the new book from Bob Woodward Plus 0 interest for 48 months. Ends wednesday. And Robert Costa called peril, which is not out for another week by the way, his already given elected republicans, Fox News in pretty much all of Twitter Something to talk, about specifically, the actions of the joints chief Chairman-army'>Chairman Army general mark milley, that he took when trumps actions became unsound, bloomberg opinion columnist tim obrien said milley should not have been surprised at what he said to have witnessed. When he warns, the republican party continues to embrace and fullblown trump is a, much could still go wrong and we cannot rely on military leaders going rogue, to protect us from Rome President s still with us our friends eugene Robinson And Stewart stevens, stewart, what do you make of this dustup over General Milley who truly was encountered with a colonel kurt situation, and whether his enemies want to admit it or not, was the Human Guardrail in the pentagon which was without a senate confirmed defense secretary. But as you pointed out earlier in the, show something similar happened when nixon was falling apart. Look, nixon on his worst day, was socrates compared to Donald Trump. This is a guy what do you do with a lunatic who has nuclear weapons . I think maybe you put the country first. That seems to me what happened here. I have absolutely no problem with it, all and i think the majority of americans, the idea that there was a stabilizing force at a time when a government itself was under attack by and not being defended by the president. I think most americans would find it reassuring. Eugene as i said earlier, twitter users may not like, it but the truth, is Chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and their counterparts overseas, have had a Running Dialogue for decades, that has largely kept the world safer. And, its do you think the opposition to this, is Performance Art . Do you think when Marco Rubio calls for his resignation, hes also hoping we forget that rubio was the first person, during the campaign originally to warn the nation about giving the nuclear codes to Donald Trump . But absolutely, when rubio dove it does its Performance Art, when most of the republicans who are complaining in people and Fox News are, whatever its absolutely performance, because as you said, these kinds of conversation at that level, have taken place often, over a long period of time. And thats exactly what should happen. And at that moment, it was vital that it happened, because President Trump, as Speaker Pelosi pointed out, was crazy, he was unfit. He was crazy, he was desperate to cling to power. And it was absolutely necessary, for someone to reassure the chinese and anybody else who would listen by the way i hope. That there were more levelheaded people, e who were in the chain of commandy, or who had a positions of power in the administration who were not going to run off and do something insane. Given that we had a president that was insane, that was important. Its very reassuring to me, and its not surprising. We are so grateful for our two friends for joining us tonight. Eugene robinson and he of the strong socrates material tonight, stewart stevens, thank you both for making our conversation better and more robust. Coming up for us, one of the doctors who has talked us through this pandemic, regularly on this broadcast. Well that very same doctor now has covid. WelL Talk to him after this. L talk to him after this L Talk to him after this thats a nice truck. Yeah, its the Chevy Silverado. Check out this multiflex tailgate. Multiflex, huh . Wow. It becomes a step. Mom, dads flexing again. Thats not all. You can extend the bed for longer stuff. Is he still. Still flexing. Thats right and, it becomes a workspace. You can put your laptop here. Im sending an imaginay email. Hey dad, dinner hey look who stopped by daddys office. Wait, you work here . The Chevy Silverado with the available multiflex tailgate. Find new flexibility. Find new roads. Chevrolet. As we mentioned, the major Covid Vaccine makers are arguing for Booster Shots. And indeed people are already getting their Booster Shots. But its still not clear if the fda is going to go along. Their Advisory Committee meets friday and they could vote to approve a first dose for anyone over 16. As political puts it the fda said observational studies dont unanimously support the suggestion, that the original vaccine Shots Efficacy declines overtime. Weve also learned one of our favorite Frontline Physicians has joined the ranks, of those with a breakthrough infection. None other than docks d. C. Steven sample, Emergency Physician from jasper indiana. We talked to him regularly during this pandemic but for tonight its the first time hes joins us as a covid patient. Hes in his basement and in quarantine. And has been kind enough to join us from there tonight. Doc around here that is taking on the significance of, where were you when you learned he had covid. We are chiefly curious about how youre feeling. How youre doing. And are we just assuming you got this from an unvaccinated person . Good evening brian. Yes. Probably. I just got my diagnosis just a couple of days ago. Ive been working kind of in a Covid Suit for the last two or three months. Its been really intense around here. And i was hoping that it wasnt going to happen to me. I tried everything i could. I surrounded myself with the veil of vaccinated people around me, but ultimately i still have to go to work and take care of patients right. Im feeling all right, i have really a Man Cold i suppose i feel bad enough that i want you to feel bad for me but really not been enough yet that you probably should. E i dont feel bad for anyone with shelves in their basement as curated and beautiful as yours. So at least you have that going for you. Even though we cannot let you leave the basement for two weeks. Lets talk about booster since they are now important in your life. So many, year in both the air national Guard Reserve and you are a Health Care professional. Both of those categories require and deserve early onset vaccinations. It spent many months for a lot of doctors in this country, a lot of doctors should be first in line for the boosters i presume you are a Pro Booster . Yes. Im watching this with his much interest as you are. Of course you are seeing signs even within the scientific community of people fighting about this. Its super unfortunate that people are watching this happen in realtime because as physicians and scientists we fight about data all of the time but youre getting to watch this happen in realtime. I am certainly Pro Booster for the people who need it. The data thats coming in is a little unclear and i think that people are making it clear and i think we know that people with very good intentions on both sides of the argument. Are looking at this stuff. I got vaccinated in the middle of december and early in january. I was literally day one. I lined up i took my kid i was like lets go and get it but now clearly my antibodies have waned to a certain degree. Which is expected. And certainly the vaccines though they help prevent hospitalization and death, they do not make you bulletproof. It does not bounce off of you. I read that earlier and i was like oh yeah its like superman with bullets bouncing off. But thats not really the way it works. Especially in your upper airway with took covid likes to take hold. You received im told, the monoclonal antibody treatment. For those of us who are civilians, what is it, whats the process, what does it do for you . So the research shows the, Monoclonal Antibodies are basically trying to dump a vaccine in you after the fact. When youre vaccinated our Bodies Seas in were trying to trick her body into thinking weve had an infection. But our body makes all these antibodies. When you see The Virus later youre ready to attack. The Monoclonal Antibodies are kind of laser targeted on that virus. Hoping that you can diminish the amount of replication, and diminish viral load and its thought to prevent serious illness. For the vaccinated people honestly its not entirely clear at least to me, if i was even necessarily supposed to get them ive been giving them to my vaccinated breakthrough cases that meet criteria. I break criteria just cause i have too much weight in my gut. I went in this morning and i was scheduled yesterday, i walked in an infusion center. I took in half an hour infusion. I stayed for an hour to make sure i didnt have an allergic reaction while i was there a stalled or computer and caught up on some charting. And then i went home. Ive been sitting in my basement where my wife literally kicked me 15 seconds after my diagnosis the other night. And i have not come out yet. Okay. Im on her side listen to your Wife And Binge on the sopranos. Get better. Stay well. Stay in touch. We wish you nothing but the best. Thank you for having us in tonight, in all best you doctor stephen our guest tonight. Hes also are patient. Coming up, there are 14 people from planet earth, who are not with us here on the planet tonight. Thats because they are presently in space four of the 14 are in the News Tonight and we will show you why. And we will show you why do you struggle to fall asleep and stay asleep . Qunol Sleep Formula combines 5 key nutrients that can help you fall asleep faster, stay asleep longer, and wake up refreshed. The brand i trust is qunol. Live studio audience, but whatever that was just hours ago and launch that launch the mid to didnt start of space tourism. Spacex own famously by a long mosque, sent a crew made entirely of civilian tourists into space. There are four of them. They are now way higher up than the relatively modest altitude that francis and basis achieved in their first flight. In fact this crew is up twice as high as John Glenn traveled during his famous first orbital flight. The Space X Spacecraft is now orbiting our earth nearly 360 miles up. A higher orbit than our international space station. They will now circle are planted 15 times every day, theyre about. Roughly about every 90 minutes for the next three. Days the launch was funded by one of its passengers, as they do. A billionaire named Jared Isaacman the crews been straining for this since march. Mission began tonight at Cape Canaveral florida, where our own Cal Perry joins us live. Cal i was thinking about this tonight early Air Travel was at first only the brave. And then only the. Rich and think about space travel. At first only the brave, and now its opened up to the rich. But the goal is to make it like Southwest Airlines someday i guess. That is right, and a long musk in spacex thinks this is the road to doing a. They will point to what they can reuse. They can reuse the rocket, the rocket that took these four new astronauts to space has been used twice before, to put military satellites into orbit. The actual capsule that theyre using, has been to the out international space station. That is spacexs answer, to how do we make this cheaper. How do we open it up to . Everybody. In launching this ranch and talking to the. Screw the way that my generation, and im old enough to know where the disobedience is, and with the right stuff, is the way that my generation looks at these apollo missions, is the way that my kids will look at the shuttle missions. The way that i shuttle mission is a way that we used to dump the boosters into this. Sea stick them in a warehouse. Not reuse them. That is old. That is out. Elon Musk Spacex like you said, is going further and farther than bezos. They are doing things that are more difficult. And this is a man and a company that wants to be in the space business. They are the way on off the international space station. They could take 50,000 pounds of gear, into orbit. That is how they think theyre gonna make their money from. Cal how much real work is this Crew Doing . And again, to your point, readjusting are thinking, those of us who are a certain age, nice really shut out by the way, we think of the astronaut training corps, years and years of preparation, these are for Space Tourists after all. How much real work will they be accomplishing . So they went through six months of training, so that they can, if they need to, my nearly fly the space crafts. That is make some adjustments, make some tweaks to. It the idea is that this is all automated. Controlled from california, offered california. That you can get on the spacecraft. This is the goal of the future. You can go up into orbit, higher, deeper than the international space station. Come back three days later. Without touching a button. That is the goal. The goal is to open it up so that people with no space training conduit. They can just get on and get. All i just hope that youre gonna need to be very. But these four, if it all goes right, they will need to do anything brian, besides as flying the spacecraft. Cal perry its always great to witness a launch from the Space Coast in florida. I envy you the evening. Youve had down there, thank you very much for staying up to join us tonight. Cal perry our man in front of the vehicle assembly building. Coming up, a look at what Fox News is doing, and what Fox News is saying to their customers during this pandemic. And how very different those two things are. The Vaccine Requirements work. More companies are instituting them, even at Fox News they require. It and im not being facetious when i say it, but it is interesting that they have stepped forward and done that as well. Last thing before we go tonight, the Fox Corporation receiving praise as you saw from the president , for its diligent effort to contain The Virus behind the scenes among its employees. Fox has a strict policy demanding all their workers be vaccinated, or face daily testing. 90 of the Fox Workforce reports that they are not fully vaccinated. Now we should stress that fox employees, the inner working of the companies that the viewers can see, but its the kind of responsible hr measures that companies like fox are undertaking. Of course the Murdoch Empire does not make any money off a good strict, diligent, aged our measure. They make their mid knee from and thats a totally different matter when theyre speaking to their customers, fox is fine with being seen as a Network Casting Doubt on the vaccine. As a Powerful New Spot by the Lincoln Project point. The focus of this administration on vaccination is mindboggling. Unless we really have a compelling case, no one under age 30 should be seeing any one of these vaccines. Maybe none of this is really about covid. Maybe its about social control . The control from day one, this is never been about following the science, its never been about following the facts and the truth. What about this vaccine, was it created intentionally to infect humans . They still think that parents should trust them, and inject their kids with an experimental drug to prevent a disease almost none of those kids will ever get sick from. If they took that vaccine and they feel safe about, it then they shouldnt worry about it if we had it or not. If you want me to get the vaccine, give me an incentive to get the vaccine. And if it doesnt prevent you from catching the coronavirus, why are we taking in the first place . Nothing more anti democratic, anti freedom, then pushing an experimental drug on americans against their will. The government is pressuring the military, spying on its own citizens, because of a virus that isnt killing for many people anymore. You do not know what you are talking about quite frankly. And i want to say that officially, you do not know what you are talking about. The Lincoln Project could take us off the air tonight, and with that that is our broadcast for this wednesday evening. It comes with our thanks for being here with us. On behalf of all our colleagues at the network of Nbc News, goodnight. If you have time to talk about the runaway victory about california last, night i but as you can see from the words of the bottom of this screen that just blast across. We got some Breaking News to cover this evening before we get to that. Because in just a few minutes, the very first allcivilian spaceflight is going to take off in Launch Pad 39 keep kinetic florida. Now probably you have already seen, whether youre Space Person or not, that earlier this summer we had billy bezos, and Richard Nance and, within a few weeks of each other. Launching themselves into space. They went to the very lowest part of what is considered space. Where they were briefly wait listed for a few minutes. And then they return. Which is cool, whatever. This is not that the, this is actually a genuine honest to god, actual space mission. The Space X rock, it is going to laws for amateur astronauts. Although one does include a billionaire, dont you worry were getting another billionaire in sp

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