More time on the Senate Staff in 1988 when i was on the Senators Reelection Campaign staff. The staff had nothing to do with me and Campaign And Operating at a level far above my head. Kathy hochul left the staff that year and youre going to hear in a moment the magic words that the senator said to her that helped ease her out of the Senate Staff and its quite a story and maybe if you hadnt said that, i would know Kathy Hochul much better than i do. We would have ended up working together but, you know, such is life. This is a Tv Show that im really excited to watch. This is a plot im excited to get to The End of. Yeah, and pat has the best part in this tonight. Excellent. I cant wait. Thank you, rachel. Thanks, lawrence. In 1988 a young lawyer told New York senior Senator Daniel Patrick she was feeling conflicted about the long hours she was putting in as a member of his staff after giving birth to her first child. Senator said you wont remember the hours you spent here but you will remember the days you spent with your children. She quit, went back to buffalo and tonight, 33 years later shes the governor of New York and my first guest. Senator moynihan had good luck with staff as Kathy Hochul was leaving. Early in his service on Senator Moynihans staff Tim Russert felt intimidated by the Wiz Kids Senator Moynihan brought with him serving as a professor. Grew up in Hells Kitchen took tim aside and said this about the Harvard Delegation on his staff, what they know you can learn. What you know, they can never learn. Pat moynihan knew that was true of Kathy Hochul. In her first address as governor, she mentioned her grand parents as teenagers fleeing poverty in ireland looking for a better life but she didnt mention when she was born, her family was living in a trailer near the bethlehem steel plant. Her father Jack Courtney was working at the plant at night and was attending college during the day. Her mother stayed at home raising children. She was the second oldest child. She went to Syracuse University and successfully protested apartheid, a movement joined on College Campuses around the country. After law school, she married bill and she was in her third term as Lieutenant Governor when Andrew Cuomo resigned last month. Andrew cuomo and his political operatives tried to drop her from the ticket in the last election but she mounted a Campaign Independent from the Governors Campaign and she won. Governor hochul is New Yorks first Woman Governor and the first new York Governor from buffalo. Kathy hochul is as of tonight the only declared candidate for governor of New York in next Years Election in her first speech as governor, Kathy Hochul revealed that she had been consulting with dr. Anthony fauci before Andrew Cuomo left office and the protecting New Yorkers from covid19 would be her top priority. Today, President Biden issued a Statement Congratulating Gavin Newsom on crushing the republican Recall Attempt last night saying quote, this vote is a resounding win for the approach that he and i share to beating the pandemic, strong vaccine requirements, strong steps to reopen schools safely and strong plans to distribute real medicines, not fake treatments to help those who get sick. The voters in traditionally republican smarts of the state rejected the recall shows americans are unifying behind taking these steps to get the pandemic behind us. New york is the second largest state with a democratic governor and Governor Hochul is taking the kind of strong steps that Joe Biden praised today. One of her first acts as governor, Kathy Hochul mandated masks be worn in schools, a policy that allowed the children of New York to return to school in person and today, Governor Hochul announced shes implementing a Mask Mandate for Child And Daycare centers and mental Health And Substance abuse facilities. Governor hochul made it a priority to protect workers from speeding up 400 Million in Rental Assistance Payments in the next three weeks. After texas banned all abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. Governor hochul said this. I guarantee i did not know i was pregnant with my first child at six weeks. I actually went on a white Water Rafting Trip it turns out at three months because i didnt know i was pregnant. Thats the reality of real people. We dont always know. So youre denied the choice that should be yours as a Woman And Something we took for grante by texas who thinks six weeks is the Magic Date you should be aware and know this is and this is grotesquely unfair what they are expecting people to do. Because the Texas Abortion Ban incentivizes anti abortion vigilantes to Spy On and sue anyone that helps a woman obtain abortion services, Governor Hochul said New York will be a Safe Harbor for texas women. I want them to know there is a symbol that they need to look at when theyre trying to figure out what to do in their lives and that symbol has been with us since 1886 in the New York harbor. Thats a strong powerful woman with her hand up saying if youve been oppressed in this world come to our harbor. This is a Safe Harbor for people suffering from oppression. My friends, that oppression in my judgment is going on in the state of texas and our harbor is open for people to come here and understand that we, we will be there to take care of them and protect them. Joining us now is the governor of New York, Kathy Hochul. Thank you very much for joining us tonight, governor. Appreciate it. Ta thanks for having me on. Looking forward to this. I want to go to your comments about the texas abortion law. What can New York do for the women in texas . In the previous Hour Rachel was reciting specifics of what women are going through that are part of the pleadings the Justice Department brought to this case, traveling hundreds of miles, driving nonstop out of state for hundreds and hundreds of miles trying to obtain services. With New Yorks distance from texas, what can New York do . And i find it so heartbreaking to see women who happen to be living in the state of texas who are denied these basic Human Rights and these are issues that we fought for my entire life as a young woman. My grandmother fought for them and my mother fought for it and i thought by the time my 30 Somethingyearold Daughter would be Childbearing Age this would be settled and for women in texas, they need to know well help you find a way to New York, and right now were looking intensely to find what resources we can bring to the table to help you have safe transport here and let you know there are providers who will assist you in this time of your need. You are not alone. Your sisters and brothers, enlightened brothers in the state of New York will help you in any way we can. That story you told about your first pregnancy and how six weeks is just an absurd line to place in any kind of law involving pregnancy, is really striking and it seems its the kind of thing that Governor Abbott and the men who are working on this legislation in texas dont seem to know anything about. They dont seem to care about it. I mean, all they want to do is control womens bodies in their state and supposedly and again, thisis though making more hands off decisions except when it comes to women. What are they thinking . And i get so frustrated to think that there is women in our own country that have to endure this. As you mentioned, setting up this system of vigilantes. This is just i cant believe this is even going on in our country and with so disgusting to me is our own Supreme Court and we saw this possibly coming but actually, the reality hit us hard the Supreme Court will not stand up and protect the women of this country. Were left on our own state by state making their own decisions and i think this is just the beginning of a trend and ill continue to stand with women across this nation using my platform, my voice to let them know that they can come to New York but other than im going to help women get elected all over this country who are prochoice. Im going to use my energy and my resources to make sure that happens, as well. Thats the only thing that will change. We have to wipe out men like Governor Abbott and what is going on in places like georgia and places in florida of all places, not to get to the vaccine issue, which is its so appalling what is going on in the republican states and their people are suffering and i Cant Stand that any longer. We have to take a strong position against this and call it out whatever we see it. I dont know how what your perspective on this was when you were a member of the House Of Representatives or governor, but when i was working in the senate and looking for allies on legislation, i always found that New Yorks package of concerns, which is massive, i always found california was the ally. California was the place that had the massive scale of urban life you have in New York, that you have in the state of New York, it has everything New York has and so it was never for me the neighboring states. It was always california. I was looking at the election last night in california and thinking about it in New York terms knowing you would be joining us tonight and wondering what you saw in New York state. Parallel to see Gavin Newsoms election, the fact that people have kept him in office is an important statement of the priorities democrats reflect and simple as we want to keep people alive by ensuring they have access to vaccines, they get vaccines and use masks and do smart commonsense things. Thats all he was talking about. That became a polar rising issue in an election that never should have happened. We are in sync on these issues. We stand with California On so many initiatives particularly when it comes to fighting this pandemic. So his Election And Rejection of trumpism and i think it sends a message across the country that there are people out there that want their leaders and government, whether its california or New York, they want us to stand up and take strong stands against the disinformation and the lies that are out there about this pandemic, tell the truth, tell people that are relying on scientists and doctors and real professionals not talk show hosts who have lost their minds, were talking about real smart people who study this for giving us the guidance that we need to make sure were protecting our residents. Thats what Gavin Newsom stood for and thats what im standing for in the state of New York, and yes, were getting sued and attacked and criticized. It doesnt matter. Were going to make sure we can keep our kids in school and keep in work and get back to normal. Thats what people want from us and i think the Election Yesterday proved that. Eviction obviously is a gigantic issue in the state of New York, especially in the city of New York with so many renters in the city of New York. How do you balance Landlords Interest in needing to be paid so they can meet their mortgage so they can continue to provide this housing that people then rent . How do you balance the landlords needs versus the renters needs in this crisis . We have found that balance and we think president Joe Biden and leaders, Chuck Schumer for delivering the dollars to New York state so we can help solve this crisis. So many millions of people lost their jobs during this pandemic and a place like New York city, broadway for example. Thousands of people work on broadway, they were the first one to shut down and they just opened again last night in a limited capacity. So we still have strong industries, hospitality. Many tourists havent come back yet but they should because were open for business. Until they get that, people lost their jobs and cant make that payment. They cant make the Rent Payment and cant make a Mortgage Payment and therefore, no fault of their own, theyre getting behind on payments. The debt is accumulating. It a tremendous Stress Point for them and landlords arent getting paid and many of these are not the big landlords we think about in New York city. A lot are small immigrants with a business on the first floor renting out to a family upstairs. Theyre not getting paid, either. When i was first sworn into office three weeks ago, i found there was a huge backlog of these federal dollars not getting out to the people and i said no more. My number one priority, i promise ill get this Money Out. Im proud we got out to almost 400 Million to date and im continuing to attack this with a vengeance because people need help. The money came to us. We appreciate that. We also added money for people who are excluded workers, our immigrant community. They didnt have a way to document salsalaries, their inc so they havent been paid assistance from the government. We stepped up in the state of New York to make sure there was money for them, as well. Im working really hard to get the Money Out, as well. With the pandemic, its about getting the vaccines and making sure we defend the lawsuits and make sure people wear masks and also getting the much needed dollars out there for small businesses, Child Care organizations and institutions as well as our landlords and renters. So were working really hard on it and making great progress. Were not done yet, though. You know, governor, you threw me a bit when you said three weeks ago when you took office because it feels like three months ago to me because sitting here, weve gone through an awful lot of urgent News Cycles about issues that did not involve the governor of New York, and i have to ask you, what does that passage of time feel like for you, those three weeks but also, youve been near the seat of power for many years. Now that you are in it, what is your biggest surprise that youve discovered in this job . I found that i was really prepared for this lawrence and i didnt know until i sat in that seat and realize the the weight of the state of New York and the future rests on my shoulders and i did work with people like tim as a teenager working on Senator Moynihans office and working in the private sector and Lieutenant Governor for seven years. Ive been in a position absorbing so much information and realized that i truly do have the ability to govern the state, and it was something that i didnt know until i was in that chair, and my first week on the job was the subway, the entire New York City Subway shut down. I had to race to the city. Find out what was wrong and get the trains running again. Ten days after that, we had a hurricane decimate parts of our cities. Particularly New York city, queens, we lost peoples lives because they were trapped in their own homes and basements they never should have been living in subhuman conditions. In addition to that, i had to get the Money Out i spoke about because there is people hurting in the state and people make sure we cant to protect people and get more vaccines out. All that is going on. Really most of that was my first two weeks in the job and i realized i have the Experience And Confidence to handle it and that people in New York are willing to give me a chance. This is turning the page on a long chapter and a lot of people particularly in State Government are feeling liberated again. I promise to create an environment that was safe for people, particularly women who did not feel respected and safe in their own workplace and ive said well focus on Ethics Reform so im excited about the potential to transform not just State Government but more importantly, peoples image and perception of their State Government. I want them to trust their leaders once again, and im committed to making sure that that happens under my watch. Governor, what can you say to parents of School Children in the state who are worried about the stability of the School Year . Might schools be shut down . Might a new variant come along . How stable is the School System as we go into this second year of a School Year under covid19 . I believe that most parents believe their children need to be back in schools and theyre very pleased to follow our requirements that we have teachers vaccinated, that people work in a School Environment of vaccinated or else test out, which is critically important to identify whether or not they are either Testing Positive for the first time or some of the breakthrough cases that are rare. Until we can get vaccines for children ages up until age 12 right now were trying to get more 12 to 17yearolds vaccinated. I think most people do feel comfortable because there is a high rate of vaccination in our state, we have nearly 80 of people who have had at least one dose. Those are good numbers. But were not going to finish until we get everybody vaccinated. Im committed to doing this and there will be a few holdouts but im balanced. I believe most people feel confident what im going to do is continue to be very aggressive in fighting this pandemic that their children are safe under my watch because im a mom and ill do anything i can to protect children, my own and others. So the School Environment is a safe environment. Our administrators and teachers have worked really hard to make sure kids can transition from this surreal world of having their education at their Kitchen Table or in their bedrooms over this past year and the effect on children has been so devastating that we have to do everything we can to keep them in a classroom in that stable setting with their Support System around. Now, if a new variant comes and its vaccine resistant, well be ready to handle that. We know what to do in the state of New York. I just added by changing the law allowing emts to administer vaccines. I and 50,000 other people ready to offer Booster Shots or peoples first shots. Were getting ready but lawrence, im feeling better about the situation. The hesitation, anxiety about the School Year, were already underway and we hope to limit any shutdowns and not have whole Sale Shutdowns ever again. Thats my objective but again, i dont know what the future is going to bring but in New York state, well be ready for it. New York Governor Kathy Hochul, i only wish Pat Moynihan were watching tonight. Real honor. Thank you, governor. Thank you. Joe biden had two One On one meetings with two democratic senators who have a big decision to make about changing Senate Rules to pass Voting Rights. Senator Amy Klobuchar joins us next. Senator Amy Klobuchar joins us Ne Xt Liberty mutual customizes Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need. How much money can liberty mutual save you . One two three four five 72,807 72,808. Dollars. Yep. Everything hurts. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Tech every customer has their own safelite story. 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With every republican senator opposed to the compromised Voting Rights bill negotiated by a group of democratic season to senators, it is up to Joe Mansion who is a member of the group who wrote that bill. Joe mansion could not find ten republicans necessary for the bill to clear a 60vote Threshold so Joe Mansion must decide whether a Senate Rule should be changed to allow Voting Rights to pass with a simple majority vote. President biden met with Senator Mansion at the White House this evening where changing the Senate Rule was probably on the agenda along with part two of the biden Infrastructure Bill. Rolling stone reports he said chuck, you tell me when you need me to start making Phone Calls about changing the Senate Rule to pass Voting Rights. President biden also had a white House Meeting this morning with Senator Kyrsten Sinema who Like Mansion has expressed reluctance about changing the Senate Rule and reluctance about the cost of part two of the biden Infrastructure Bill. Joining me is Amy Klobuchar, one of the senators who introduced the freedom to vote act on tuesday. Senator klobuchar, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Thanks, lawrence. I know youve been in the room negotiating this bill with Joe Mansion and Senator Warnock and others. I know you know what is going to happen, so you can now please tell us exactly what is going to happen. All right. Well first, congratulations on your great interview with Governor Hochul. It made me smile when i heard governor warnock. The law that passed in georgia that would basically say you Cant Vote on weekends during the run off period, you know why we need basic federal Voting Rights in place. Were quite excited about this bill, the freedom to vote act. Every member of the Group Senator Schumer brought together which of course included Senator Mansion as well as senators king, Senator Tester from montana, Senators Warnock and Padilla And Merkley who led the for the people act and myself and weve come to an agreement, there is a lot of excitement in our caucus. Why . The bill has All Of Us together, our names on that bill. That matters. You cant get anywhere if you dont have a Policy Agreement to have mail in balloting without an excuse to make sure that people are able to have their voices heard by not having partisan Jer Gerrymandering and the Disclosure Act so you Cant Hide behind Dark Money. Its really an incredible bill. I disagree. Were still reaching out to republicans. I heard what you said at the beginning and thats one of Senator Mansions jobs, one of my jobs and were continuing to do that. The bill was revealed yesterday and we have the next week or so to keep working on that and we will continue that out reach and from there, well cross that bridge when we come to it. I want people to understand this is the very first time that weve had this kind of an agreement on the bill also working with our house counterparts. We dont have time to waste and it was really important that we came together. Well, it did seem that Senator Mcconnell Yesterday indicated there would be no republican votes but lets hope you can get the magic ten in the next week but lets talk about that bridge you just mentioned that you said we will cross that bridge when we come to it. That bridge, of course, is how do you get around the 60 Vote Threshold in the senate if you dont get ten republicans . So have you discussed that bridge with Senator Mansion . Many people have talked to him about this and he has publicly said hes open to the idea of a standing filibuster. You and i have talked about that where the other side is forced to make their case to Voter Suppression to the people of this country when we by the way, know 80 of the americans actually want Dark Money contributions disclosed, we know that way over 70 of them want to be able to have early voting and this includes democrats and republicans. The people are on our side on this. And there are other reforms. You know i personally favor abolishing the filibuster. Right now my focus is on getting the information out there about this Bill Freedom to vote act. Weve been working with the house. Were really excited about it and we cant even get to that procedural moment until we make sure everyone is on board and it appears so far the bill has gotten rave reviews and that makes me feel good and puts us in a place to move forward. What is the condition, the Health Condition of the into Infrastructure Bill part two in the senate described as the not exactly accurately but the 3. 5 trillion Reconciliation Package . You know what i describe the bill as . That bill is bringing costs down for the people of america and one of my major focuses is Prescription Drugs. The president made a big deal out of this at the state of Union And Weve been talking about adds forever and its time to get it done. You know that bill will be about Child Care for the people of the country which they badly need and the physical Infrastructure Bill done in the senate. It a great bill. We need the employees trained and people through school and the like to be able to work on that infrastructure, to be able to put out that broad band. Thats what this second bill is about. And so i think that were making progress. We always knew there would be intense negotiations about this bill. The president is now involved and i think we all understand these two bills go together. To get the bill, the Senate Bill thats already passed the senate through the house, we need votes in the house. And to do that, were going to need support for the second package, as well. And i continue having sat through many, many Leadership Meetings on this, we will get to that point. Its just going to be a lot of negotiation and you worked in the senate, lawrence. You know its not easy to get things don. The american people need this bill. Thank you for joining us tonight. Thanks, laurnls. Thank you. A republican State Lawmaker in New Hampshire changed his Party Affiliation from republican to democrat yesterday. Because of the anti vaccine, anti Mask Extremism in the republican party. He will join us next. Next without my medication, my small tremors would be extreme. I was diagnosed with parkinsons. I had to retire from Law Enforcement. It was devastating. 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Joining us now is New Hampshire state Representative William marsh. Thank you very much for joining us tonight representative marsh. Appreciate it. Good evening, lawrence. Good to be with you but its a late hour for an old guy like me. Im sure it is. One thing im struck by in your statement, youre not talking just about the leadership of the republican party or the elected officials in your state, youre talking about the voters. It sounds like youre saying the people who are voting republican now are not the people who were joining you in voting republican are certainly not thinking the same thing that you were thinking when you were voting for ronald reagan. Im not sure its the voters. I think its more the organization, the grass Roots Organization on the ground and the cities and towns throughout the state. Theyve really been taking over by these extremists who believe their Rights Trump Anybody else ease rights and they have the right to do whatever they want to no matter how it affects other people around them. That violates the constitution and rules of civilized society. Thats not where im coming from. I imagine a decision like this is a long time and coming and building because what youre identifying among republicans is something, is a condition thats been going on for more than just this year. Im certain thats true. During my professional life, i was an ophthalmologist in New Hampshire for 30 odd years. I didnt pay a lot of attention to politics and went my way but when i retired, i ran for the new Hampshire House and had a good five Year Run of it and got a few bills passed and i think i did some good things. Things have changed. Things started to come to ahead in june when we had a nongermane amendment that would have put desantis style restrictions on the things that we need to do to mitigate covid in place. I didnt want to see that happen. House leadership told me that if i got up to speak, they would strip me of my Leadership Position as Vice Chairman of the human services committee. I did. I won. They took me off. And this sort of simmered all summer. I had advanced knowledge this rally was going to happen, and i had advanced knowledge what the Press Release would basically say. Republicans dont stop businesses from doing the things they need to do to protect their patrons and customers. Thats just not how republicans act and yet, these people and i use the words republican rather loosely are trying to put in place restrictions that would prohibit businesses from mandating vaccines for employees and prohibit schools from mandating masks and prohibit businesses from deciding who they feel safe coming into their venues. We know what is happening in states that do things like that. People are getting sick and dying and a high percentage of children. Businesses fail when they are subject to such rules going along with such a Policy Oing C was too high of a price to pay. For the people i had a relationship for 30 years. Not what i wanted to do but where i am. What is your sense of what this does to you politically in terms of reelection . Well see. Were also doing redistricting in New Hampshire so what district i might end up remains to be seen and what office i might run for remains to be seen. You know, in The End of the day, that doesnt really matter. You have to be able to look at yourself in the mirror and look your children in the eye and say i did a good thing. Thats really what is more important here. On the other hand, the public reaction to this is remarkably positive particularly from the more moderate republicans who i feel are being marginalized from the republican party at this point in time, the very voters you spoke of, theyre no longer being represented by the people in leadership in their party and i think that they may soon speak. In fact, they did speak very recently in a very republican district in a special election in bedford, New Hampshire where a seat recently changed hands. Representative william marsh, thank you very much for joining us tonight. Appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Coming up, theyre putting a fence around the capitol again tonight with trump supporters scheduleded to rally in support of the rioters that attacked the capitol on January 6th. Thats next. 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Republicans forced the state of california to spend close to 300 Million in Taxpayer Money to conduct an election that was driven by republican delusion. Delusion is the kindest word to describe the results of a Cnn Poll showing only 21 of republican voters believe that Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 president ial election. Nearly 80 of republican voters are lost in the wilderness of their own delusions. They are incapable of separating fact from fiction about elections, about vaccinations, about masks, they are a danger to themselves and some of them, a relatively small number of them allowed delusions to lead them to breaking the law as they did on January 6th when a Trump Mob attacked the capitol. It is important to remember that almost all of these 74 Million people who voted for Donald Trump for president last year have been unwilling to leave their sofas to protest the outcome of the election. Not one word of protest from 74 Million of them. It is just a tiny sliver of the most diluted and dangerous among them who represent a threat and that group is much smaller now than over 500 of them have been arrested for their attack on the capitol. Tonight, temporary fencing is going up once again around the Capitol Grounds in anticipation of what the department of Homeland Security expects to be 700 people attending a rally on saturday to support the criminals who attacked the capitol on January 6th. Joining us now, Leonard Pits junior, Poitzer Prize winning Columnist And Opinion columnist for the Washington Post and Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution and Leonard Pits, Here We Go Again at the capitol, i think the capitol is probably going to be ready this time for the 700 or we will see how Man Protesters show up there this weekend. Yeah, im reminded of a quote that i forget which general it was that said this around the time of the September 11th attacks, they were always fighting the last war. So i am not surprised that we are now prepared on September 18th for what happened on January 6th. My question is and im sure everything will be fine because, again, were prepared. My question is where do we go from there . In other words, were okay for the last war. What is the next war, and what form will that take . What did we learn last night in the massive win, massive win by democrats in california . Well, i think we learned that when voters are when its very clear to voters that the alternative to a democrat in office is an extreme one can even say extremist republican like larry elder, when the alternative is a party that denies the value of vaccination or at least holds out this idea that everybody should be free not to get vaccinated, oppose masks in schools, voters will respond, and i do think theres a real lesson here both for the coming governors elections in New Jersey and virginia, but also for 2022, which is that when voters understand that the real alternative is a republican party as Representative Morris whom you just had on the show dramatized with his Party Switching that this is a republican party thats extreme, thats not willing to fight covid, i think you can create a very, very broad coalition. Its striking that in the Exit Polls 94 of democrats voted against the recall. Thats not shocking, but 65 of independents also roted im sorry, its 94 of liberals and 65 of moderates voted against the recall. When you can put together moderates and liberals in that number, you can build a very big majority. I think thats what democrats should be thinking about doing for 2022. Larry pitts, what did you see in the california results last night . Well, my caveat would be can we do the same its all well and good that we can do this, that this can be done in a large and relatively moderate to liberal state. My question, ill be more convinced and feel more sanguine about voters rejecting republican extremism when we see results like that in texas or when we see results like that in florida. When we begin to see that, i will begin to breathe a lot more easily than i am right now. What about talk about Floridas Governor because youre seeing Gavin Newsom, you know, does not have a passionate following in california. The biggest asset he has is the Word Democrat beside his name. Governor desantis in florida we have seen provokes passions on both sides. What is his standing in your state of Florida Tonight . Well, my caveat would be that i work for the Miami Herald but i dont work in florida so i dont have any special firsthand knowledge of his standing. I know theres a lot of polarization, a lot of vulcanization in florida over the governor, but for whatever reason, those on the left seem unable to cobble together the numbers to climb that hill to finally be able to bring forth an alternative to him or to, you know, other republican governors that the state has had. Hes only the latest. Hes not the only trend in this direction. A. J. , i was looking at the polling in California On masks, on vaccines, and its virtually identical to the polling in the state of New York. I was also looking at today on masks, vaccines, and all of these public health measures, and it seems like there are now two countries, one that takes public health seriously and the other that doesnt seem to comprehend it. Unfortunately, i think thats right. Thats basically right, although, i think one of the things we should bear in mind, leonards right, obviously. Californias a very democratic state, and you cant assume that youll get a result exactly like that in other states, but it strikes me when you look at polling, there is still a significant number of republicans, first of all, who have gotten vaccinated. Second, who believe in masking, and so i think that while liberal states and democratic states have these attitudes, i think there are an awful lot of people in other states who really would rather have their government pursue a different policy. Desantiss popularity has dropped because of his policies. 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