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The main Republican Challenger trying to unseat californias democratic Governor Gavin Newsom. That election in which california voters will decide whether or not they want to recall Governor Newsom, that is tomorrow. Polls close at 8 00 p. M. Pacific time tomorrow, which is 11 00 p. M. Eastern time tomorrow, but if you would like to see what that future is like, go to that Campaign Website T top republican trying to unseat Governor Newsom, and click at the top where it says stop fraud. You click On The tab, and, look, it looks like this dude has already lost, Governor Newsom has already won. We can see the future. The republicans are very, very mad theyve lost the Recall Election, and theyre claiming they only lost it because of all the fraud they saw on Election Day, which in real Life Hasnt happened yet. But, look, they live in the future. They say, quote, we implore you to join us in this fight as you are able by signing our petition demanding a special session of the California Legislature to investigate and ameliorate the twisted results of this 2021 recall. What twisted results . This Time Machine is a powerful thing. They say, quote, statistical analyses used to detect fraud held in elections in Third World nations such as russia, venezuela, and iran, have detected fraud in california, resulting in Governor Gavin Newsom being reinstated as governor. Again, this is what theyve got live on Larry Elders website. It hasnt happened yet. Governor new sochl has not been recalled. The election is not until tomorrow, but already the republicans talk candidate to replace newsome. They say heve lost the election. Newsom is not being recalled and its because of the fraud they know happened, that they statistically analyzed lie iran, so they know what happened tomorrow, even though tomorrow is technically in the future. But, oh, by the way, if you do not believe them, if you do not take these claims of theirs very, very seriously, they want you to know, the top wants you to know if you dont go along with this, if you resist, theres going to be some shooting. Here is the Opening Salvo on that part of the website for Larry Elder, your republican candidate for governor for california. They say there are four boxes of liberty, the soapbox, the ballot box, the Jury Box, and the Ammo Box. We trust in our elected officials to safeguard that ballot box, however, when they allow thieves to steal in the dead of night and steal the ballot box, we can no longer rely on its contents. Will we now have to fight the california Jury Box in the hope that the final box, the one most akin to pandoras, remains closed . Remember in this setup the final box is the Ammo Box. In other words, this is republicans proclaiming, saying basically, you know, join us in proclaiming an advance that any election won by a democrat doesnt count . We will turn to the Ammunition Box to get our way, return to the Ammo Box. Thats not leak a random Screen Shot from Youtube Comments from some bugeyed video where you should take your dogs flee Collar Off and puttet in your underpants to protect yourself from covid. This is not some rightwing paranoia. This is up right now while trying to recall the governor of california, and you should leave your dogs flee collar exactly where it is while were On The subject. Even that page with the Ammo Threat and all that, it says at the bottom, paid for by Larry Elder Ballot Marsh Committee recall newsom. Theyre telling you even though tomorrow even though they dont respect the results, join with them. To join a Shooting War . It has become an article of faith and a central Organizing Principle of campaigning in 2021 that elections themselves are not something we should do anymore. Election results are not real. Only suckers believe in the Vote Count at The End of an election. Only suckers believe in the proclamation of a winner. Republicans dont believe those things. Were here. This is where we are now. It turns out its not some distant dystopian future where one of two major parties in the united states of america have decided elections are no longer the way. They want to participate in american politics. Its not some faraway future. Its 26 hours from now, Tomorrow Night. It means its here. Apparently they already know theyre going to lose that election and why. President Biden Tonight is in california. We are awaiting his Speech Tonight at a rally for Governor Gavin Newsom in long beach, california. President biden spent the Day Today reviewing Wildfire Damage in the state of idaho and also in california. He made an Announcement Today in idaho about something his administration did about fires this year that was a surprise, something we didnt know about before the president announced it today. Were going to have more on that in a few minutes coming up later in this hour. President biden talked about the growing intensity of the dangers imposed by Climate Change. He did that not just to get specific about the Wildfire Threat in the west but also to promote his signature legislation, his big infrastructure bill, which includes all of his major proposals on climate, climate resiliency, building up our ability to survive these increasingly large storms and Fire Seasons, getting us on to Cleaner Energy and off of the kinds of fuels and processes that make Climate Change worse. Thats something the democrats are going to dpig figure out how to pass. Its something theyre going to figure out. Were awaiting word any day, any hour as to whether there might be some serious Immigration Reforms in the big bill the democrats want to pass. On friday im surprised this didnt get more attention. On friday democrats pled their case to the parliamentarian of the senate that they want to fold some big Immigration Reforms into their bill. The parliamentarian will consider that request. She gets to rule on that request whenever she feels like it. Were essentially on watch for that to happen. It could happen any time. The parliamentarian doesnt have a calendar on which she has to respond, but depending on her answer, this could be the best chance for real Immigration Reform in decades, and if it cant be done in this big bill thats called a Reconciliation Bill that the democrats are trying to pass, its hard to imagine getting it done any other way. This is kind of a doordie Highstakes Decision on which washington has been stagnating for decades. Today the democratic leader in the Senate Chuck Schumer also announced since democrats have come up with a new compromised bill on Voting Rights. Republicans have thus far used the filibuster to block proceeding toward a voting Rights Bill to pass the house, but Chuck Schumer says over their break, it was a group of nine senators who came up with a new voting Rights Bill. They call it a compromised bill. We dont know whats in it. But we know conservative Joe Manchin helped draft this compromised bill and he does support it. Since Senator Manchin is the one who keeps insisting that surely, surely republican senators will vote for this, surely republicans arent against Voting Rights, of course, Theyll Vote for this. Since senator Joe Manchin has apparently convinced himself of that idea, schumer has put Joe Manchin in charge of approving it. Hes in charge of rounding up the Voting Rights that Joe Manchin says hes sure are out there. Senator manchin has been having discussions with our republican colleagues to try and garner support for this important legislation. This is a good proposal, and i encourage all my senate colleagues to support it. So the senate must act. I intend to hold a vote as early as next week on Voting Rights legislation. Time, time is of the essence. I yield the floor. A vote, perhaps, next week on Voting Rights. We shall see. I will tell you, weve been trying to report this out over the course of today and tonight. Ill tell you the status of our reporting right now. One democratic staffer whos in talks says the Voting Rights, its a question whether theyll carve something out. Well see. One democratic staffer familiar with the state of the talks tells us that this new Voting Rights compromised bill could be introduced as early as tonight by senators Joe Manchin, raphael warnock, amy klobuchar. We shall see. It will happen Tomorrow Morning if it doesnt happen tonight. If the timing is that imminent, theres not much reason to speculate at this point. Well know when, in fact, it happens. Again, with sourcing like that, talking to us sources like that telling us about a pace that fast, it does look like its happening soon with Senator Manchin saying its moving and may get the final vote next week, it does seem like this is happening. The process is also moving on Bidens Signature big legislation, the big budget Reconciliation Bill which means infrastructure, which means Climate Change, which could mean Immigration Reform at some level. Thats all real policy, substantive stuff with real prospects, and it is all On The move, all here on Earth One, where it is Monday Night and the California Election is tuesday, and tuesday comes after monday, so it hasnt happened yet and we dont know the results yet. Any Advance Notice is not possible. Here on Earth One, thats whats happening. An Election Tomorrow that we can forecast but not yet complain about the results of since there are no results. Thats whats going on right now. Because the other party in america doesnt really live on Earth One anymore, all the democrats working in Washington T leaders in the house an senate had to fit into their Day Security briefings on what the capitol police are having to do this week to try to physically protect the u. S. Capitol from the trump supporters coming back this week for the first time since their January 6th violent attack On The u. S. Capitol to try to keep trump in office. This time theyre coming back this saturday to praise the January 6th attackers and to demand that they be released from prison. Can you talk a little bit about what you briefed this morning . Yeah. We briefed about the demonstration scheduled for september 18th, just the Intelligence Information that were aware of and a little bit about our operational plan and what we plan to do. [ indiscernible ] yes. [ indiscernible brts. The fence will go up the day or two before and if everything goals well, it will comdon soon after. Yes, the trump folks are coming to the capitol again to proclaim that they dont believe in the Election Results and to proclaim specifically that the people who attacked the capitol January 6th to try to keep trump in power after he lost the election, those people are heroes and political leaders and theyre being persecuted and they should all be released. So this week the protective fencing around the capitol has to go back up. Today politico was the first to report in a new book, the chief of Staff Stephanie Grisham said on January 6th, she says she texted the first lady, do you want to tweet that protest . One minute later, one minute after grisham sent that text to the first lady, she replied with a one word answer, quote, no, no, i do not want to tweet that. Melania trump and the Chief Of Staff ended up resigning later on January 6th. Here we are. One of the two political parties in our country has been trying to contend with what happened there . That attack on our country and investigating it and trying to get who is behind it and how we can prevent it from happening again, and On The other side, well, theres the rally celebrated the attacker this weekend, so the fence has to go back up around the capitol. The leading republican running in the california governors Recall Race says in advance that Tomorrows Election in California Shouldnt Count and they will claim fraud. And for good Measure Theyll go to the Ammo Box unless everyone goes along with that. Today trump called it rigged, calling it just another giant election scam, no different than the 2020 president ial election scam. Today he also issued an endorsement for a republican candidate who is vying for the statewide office that runs elections in arizona. He endorsed a republican candidate for Arizonas Secretary of state. The man is a State Representative right now in a and he has supported the bogus audit of the election in arizona. This is a guy who last week somewhat hilariously tried to personally proclaim the Election Results in arizona should definitely be flipped to trump. Last week he said im calling it. Oh, are you. Im recalling it. Im recalling the electors. There is already enough evidence to show clear and convincing fraud. Have a duty to act. Last week he said that. Today trump gave him The Endorsement to be arizonas next Secretary Of State, which means whats more valuable than a Trump Endorsement in a republican primary, right . In a republican primary for Secretary Of State with this guy having trumps endorsement now, hell probably win, right, which will make him the republican candidate for Secretary Of State in arizona running On The platform that arizona should have its Election Results of 20 2020 tossed out, and even though trump got The Endorsement. It should be thrown out. This nomination will give him a shot at getting that job. I will tell you this is the third of these that has happened in a row. This is the third white secretary of State Endorsement Trump has made this year. One of them is this guy in arizona who says the victory should will thrown out and he should be endorsed. Trump has endorsed a candidate in georgia who says Bidens Victory in georgia should be thrown out and the state be given to trump and also in michigan who says it should be throughout out and the state be given to trump. Those are the three he made this year. Notice a pattern . If youre a republican politician, you look at this pattern, you look at trumps sway in the republican party right now. What do you think it takes to be nominated by the republican party to be Secretary Of State in any state in the country . Do you think anybodys going to be a republican primary whoutd pledging first that trump should be given that states electoral votes . Things on earth two are definitely weird, but never let it be said that they are complicated. Its getting more and more simple all the time there. Back here on Earth One, democrats are working on policy, and we may get their new voting Rights Bill as early as tonight. Back here on Earth One its the night before the california Recall Election, which means it hasnt happened yet, which means we should talk to Steve Kornacki about how the polls look. We are live from Earth One tonight and every night. Watch this space. Hey, i just got a text from my sister. You remember rick, her neighbor . Sure, hes the 76yearold Guy who still runs marathons, right . Sadly, not anymore. Wow. So sudden. Um, were not about to have the we need Life Insurance Conversation again, are we . No, were having the were getting coverage so we dont have to worry about it conversation. So youre calling about the 9. 95 a Month Plan from Colonial Penn . I am. We put it off long enough. 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In the city of Los Angeles, you need a Grand Total of five voters to get together to begin the process of calling for a recall for a Los Angeles official. Literally you can start a recall with the number of people you can fit in your camry, and its not just l. A. Across the state of california, there are more than 70 elected officials who are facing the threat of recall just this year because thats how they do it in california. California asks for recalls all the time. You can mount a Recall Campaign against any statewide elected official for any reason at all if you can achieve the grand result of Collecting Signatures from just 12 of people who voted in the last election for that seat. Not 12 of registered voters, but 12 of the number of people who voted in the last election for that seat specifically. Thats all you need to be able to get that statewide elected official put up fur recall. As far as low bars go, this is so low it sits On The floor and invites you to walk on it. And so every glonch in the estate of california for the past 60 years has faced at least one attempt to recall them. And you will, of course, recall the successful 2003 recall of governor Gray Davis. Thats how beended up with Arnold Schwarzenegger for a hot minute. Now theyre trying again with this recall theyre mounting against Governor Gavin Newsom. The polls close at 8 00 p. M. Specific time. Right now as we speak, the president is with Governor Newsom for a final get out the vote push. Id love to tell you how its all likely to go. Republicans are already complaining newsom has one. There are no results yet but good to know how you guys are planning to approach this in good faith. California is so weird about recalls and recalls are such weird birds among elections, i feel like i have more answers than questions about what to expect tomorrow. What are the odds of Governor Newsom being actually recalled . Are there specific variables we need to watch for that differ from a normal election . When do we gect to see results . The polls close at 8 00 pchl pacific, 11 00 p. M. On the em. Joining me now is Steve Kornacki, msnbcs political analyst. The history of it is so bizarre, so easy to start a Recall Effort. Actually getting somebody recalled is pretty difficult at the statewide level. Ballpark figure, first question, how likely do you think, based On The polling, that newsom has survived this Recall Effort . Gavin newsom has got to belief the polls are right. If theyre accurate, hes going to survive. These are the most recent polls. This is the final week of the campaign. Keep newsom. No On The recall. Keeps leading. Double digits in all but one of the polls this week. One even over 20 points. The average is to keep newsom by a margin of 14 points. Rare to have a precedent here. Went back and looked Thoechlt 2003 is when Gray Davis was recalled and Schwarzenegger Game the governor. The polls in the final week of the 2003 recall were yes On The recall by an average of 16 points. So thats a significant difference in the polg for the runup to this one versus the one in 2003. It ended up passing by a margin of ten points. Steve, when youre looking at specific voting groups, projected turnouts, signs of affected fieldwork, that sort of stuff, when we approach it in normal Circumstances State by state, you get to learn where to look, bellwether counties, Bellwether Staffing groups. For a Recall Election and this one in particular is there something specific youre looking at that could be determinative that we could have an early idea of when we see the Exit Polls in terms of whos actually turns out to vote . Well get Exit Polls. I think whats going to happen to take you through the Pe Cue yarts of it, were going to get a lot of returns in that 11 00 p. M. Eastern time to midnight eastern hour Tomorrow Night that may basically tell us the result result. If its real close, it may take days. The first hour, the first 90 minutes could be determinative. What youre seeing i put this up this is biden over california, a 30point Margin for biden. Very similar result in 2016 with hillary clinton. Very similar with Gavin Newsom when he won in 2018. What youre looking at On The map is a sort of democratic victory. Thats the key to this recall. If the recall is going to have any chance of succeeding, you can talk about one particular demographic group. The big Picture Thing that has to happen for recall supporters, they need lots of people who voted for biden in 20, who voted for newsom in 2018, who voted for clinton in 2015, who typically vote democratic. They need a lot of them to vote for the recall. Take a look at this map. You see some Red Area. The Red Area you see On The typical map in california tend to be rural, smaller population areas. The big population centers are the blue areas On The state. So, for instance, this is one interesting way of looking at it. L. A. County, theres 10 Million people in l. A. County right here. Thats bigger than new jersey. This is 25 of all the vote in the state of california is going to come out of l. A. County. If you just add in Orange County to the south, san diego, and the inland empire, san Bernardino And River Side Forecast you look at this block of votes here, more than half the votes statewide is going to come out of this small Pocket Right here. You see its all blue. The challenge for recall supporters, for instance, if you take Orange County, biden won by nine points over trump. Trump got 44 points. If the recall is going to succeed tomorrow and youre looking at a place like Orange County, the number has to be at least 60 . Its got to be getting a county like orange to get to 60 . If they do that, a lot of people who voted for biden, a lot of democratic voters have got to support this thing. Thats the big Challenge Recall supports have to do. Theyre trying to do this in one of the bluest states in the country. Steve, i want to ask you about something that may be hard to model or get quantitative on because its a relatively new phenomenon, on one side of the ledger, republican voices and leaders telling those core voters that the elections rigged, that their Vote Wont be counted, that the system is stacked against them. There was a lot of questioning after the Georgia Senate races following november 2020. There was a lot of questions whether or not republican voters actually sat home because they had been essentially demoralized about the integrity of democracy, because of the Way Trump was questioning the president ial result and a lot of speculation that that contributed to those democrats winning those two senate seats in georgia is. That a want finally dynamic since were seeing the republicans hit that line so hard hitting the california recall tomorrow. Theres a couple of things. When we do get the final results, well look and see how the turnout was relative to the republican areas, you know, was there sort of a disparity there. We ended up seeing that when we looked at georgia. One thing i will say about california unlike georgia, everyone was mailed a Ballot And Theyve been mailed them back in for weeks. There is some question. They say they voted before this latest sort of messaging youre describing starting going out. There i think thats one variable. The other variable is if you were looking at polling a month ago and there wasnt a ton of it but there was enough a month ago that people across the country were getting curious about this race because a month ago the recall was within single digits in the polling. There was even a poll, you can quibble with the methodology, but curiosity had piqued when it came to california. The polls now almost uniformly showing so italy for newsom for senior vieving. There has been a shift in the interest level. Its working in the democrats favorite. Its a 35point biden state. Democrats started getting the word out. Started getting Media Coverage and it does seem like that democratic electorate woke up in the last few weeks. At least thats what the polling is suggesting. That hangs over our head every day like a damocles. Steve kornacki. As always its wonderful to have you on tonight. Thank you, rachel. Much more to get to tonight. Stay with us. Uch more to get Tot Stay with us is suggesting. Is suggesting. The town of cullman is in North Alabama Right between birmingham and huntsville. The local paper there is the Cullman Times. And a few days ago the story that led their Print Edition was an obituary. Antiques and auctioneering. Businessman Ray Demonia remembered for community service. Its their lead story. And theres a reason it was at the top of the paper. He was clearly a beloved local figure. For decades hed been dealing antiques and hosting auctions in cullman, alabama. Many of them for charity. The paper printed a great old photo of him hosting an auction in his younger days and included an excerpt from a profile the Cullman Times had done about him a decade ago. It said, his showmanship makes for a fun day, watching him encourage, cajole, and entice his audience is a thing of beauty. He knows his customers. He plays to them. He elicits moans and bursts of laughter at his antics. Ray demonia lived his whole life in cullman, alabama. But he did not die there. He had a cardiac emergency that he suffered in cullman on august 23rd. But he ended up dying nine days later and 200 miles away from home in a hospital across State Lines in mississippi. And heres why. Heres why mr. Demonias warm, loving Sweet Obituary in his Hometown Paper is not just a local story about this loss for his Family And Cullman who will no longer get to enjoy his auctioneering antics. Because when mr. Demonias family of him, they included this at The End, in Honor Of Ray please get vaccinated. In an effort to free up resources for noncovid related emergencies. Due to Covid19 Cullman Emergency Center Staff contacted 43 hospitals in three states in search of a cardiac Icu Bed and finally located one in meridian, mississippi. He would not want any other family to go through what his did. I mean, for everyone who says that getting a vaccine is a personal choice that doesnt affect anyone else, line that up with Ray Demonias obituary and what his family has just said about his death. Right . I mean, your decision about your vaccine may feel personal to you. I get it. But you live in a society. You live in a country. And your decision about your vaccine is ultimately the decision that fills up Hospital Beds, that makes all the difference to your society, your community, your country. It makes all the difference as to whether a man like Ray Demonia gets that Icu Bed or not. Other peoples decisions about their vaccine made the decision for him as to whether or not he could get the critical care he needed. His daughter tells the cullman tribune, dad was a Team Player always. He was vaccinated for his Health And Everyone elses health. He did everything he was supposed to do. If that time named cullman, alabama is Reagan Bell for you, if you feel like the town sounds familiar from something else recently in the news, you are correct. Cullman, alabama was recently the site of a Giant Donald Trump rally. This was last month. The state republican party claimed 50,000 people attended, which would make it the largest political event in Alabama History if true. Do we believe its true . I dont know. It was a big event. Two days after that event Ray Demonia went to the Cullman Hospital with his cardiac emergency and it did take calls to 43 different hospitals to find him that cardiac Icu Bed. And to be clear, its not like we can say that giant Trump Event caused mr. Demonias death. But a place where Tens Of Thousands of people show up and at that rally booed vaccines, thats the kind of place where the local hospital is probably going to be filled up with mostly unvaccinated covid patients. And whatever the reason that the hospital is full, if the hospitals full people who need those Hospital Beds are not going to get them in a timely way. And for some people, thats going to be The End of their life. Alabama is one of the least vaccinated states in the country. The only states with a lower Vaccination Rates than alabama are west virginia, wyoming, and idaho. In Idaho Crisis Standards Of Care have been formally implemented in a huge swath of the state. Patients from idaho are also now starting to overwhelm hospitals in neighboring washington state. As of today, the state of alabama does not just have zero Icu Beds available. The states Icu Bed availability is in negative territory. They have 0. 7 negative Icu Bed capacity. Ray Demonias Daughter telling the washington post, quote, dad would just want things to get back to normal. If people would realize the strain on Hospital Resources thats happening right now then that would really be amazing. But they dont flow if that will ever happen. Joining us now is dr. Jeanne marrazzo, director of the division of infectious diseases at the university of alabama at birmingham. Dr. Marrazzo, its an honor to have you with us tonight. Thank you so much for taking the time. My pleasure, rachel. Good to see you. So you were warning a month ago that alabama was out of Icu Beds. You warned publicly that if things continued the way they were going you said that this month could be apocalyptic. How are things in Alabama Right now . It feels like that Icu Capacity Number has been negative for a while. Right. Exactly. And when i used that term, you know, some people took it in the literal biblical sense. But what i was really referring to was a breakdown of a social order, a breakdown of our ability to expect that we as a community, especially a medical community, can care for each other, right . If your father like mr. Demonia is in need of acute care because hes having a cardiac emergency, you assume in a normal world where we do Take Care of each other, that you can actually go to an emergency department, maybe not the one right next to your house, but maybe within a 20mile Radius and get care. His story is unfortunately incredibly sad and tragic, just heartbreaking. And were seeing that play out. This is not an isolated event. Most of our Emergency Departments in the state are really overwhelmed. And were boarding people there, taking care of people who really need the Icu Beds that you mentioned are in such short supply. Right now our icus are mostly filled with people who require to be on a ventilator. And that means were taking care of some incredibly sick patients in the rooms outside of the icu. These are people who could use an Icu Bed, but at this point, the bar is so high to get into the icu, you really need to be on a ventilator. And that is a very stressful situation for families, for nurses who are taking care of these patients On The floors and in the e. R. S, and for everybody whos involved in that care. Not to mentiOn The patient. I think about what it must mean for Health Care Staff working with patients on ventilators who are that sick, who are that close to The End and working in an environment that isnt by design as resourceintensive as it could be. I want to put something to you that you actually said here on this show back in june of last year. You were here last summer and you told me this. You said, i think people arent paying attention that much excuse me. I think people arent paying attention that the Health Care Workforce is not an exhaustive supply. You said the people who are working really, really hard to care for these patients are facing serious exhaustion not to mentiOn The psychological stress of seeing patients die and having to deal with all the concerns about getting infected themselves. You were talking about that stress in a way that really struck with me and moved me more than a year ago. Now more than a year later its the same staff. I have to ask how you feel the workforce is keeping given how bad its been for so long. Yeah. Thank you so much for remembering that. I will say that its gone from a feeling of really fear, anxiety, all the sort of stuff i was conveying to you back then, to a sort of numbness. And thats so much worse because when you start to feel like, you know, you cant see an end to this, right, we dont know whats going to happen. Hopefully delta will decline like it has in other countries. The uk, israel. But nobodys really sure thats going to happen. Plus we have the Mu Variant in the waiting room. Hopefully that wont take off. But the bottom line is this exhaustion coupled with uncertainty about when this is going to end and when were going to be able to get back to taking care of people for all the other things they really need. So i think people are at a very dangerous level of almost disassociation and emotional exhaustion because youve got to get through the day. The other thing thats making it very hard is and i think people probably arent talking about this enough is that a lot of Health Care workers are really angry because this was preventable, right . Mr. Demonia did not need to die in the way he did. And he had gotten vaccinated. So the negative feelings when youre trying to Take Care of patients really is something that people are having to deal with, converse about, and talk about, and really acknowledge. Dr. Jeanne marrazzo is director of the division of infectious diseases at the university of alabama at birmingham. Thank you for being with us, thank you for coming back and talking to us again. Ive seen the Hospital Census numbers tick down a little bit, a little bit in recent days. Yeah. And that is a blessing, and i hope there is much more of that to come. Good luck. Thanks. Appreciate it. Byebye. Thank you. Well be right back. Stay with us. Every day, coventry helps people get cash for their Life Insurance policies they no longer need. Im an anesthesiologist and a Pain Physician by specialty. I was trying to figure out what i could do with this term Life Insurance policy. Im sorta stuck because i cant just go out and buy more insurance, because of my diagnosis. I called coventry direct and everything clicked. There actually were a lot more options that i thought there ever would be. Coventry helped michael like weve helped thousands of people sell all or part of their Life Insurance policies for cash. Even a term policy. 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He has invoked the Defense Production Act, the wartimeera law that lets the federal government essentially take over private Business Functions to manufacture Essential Supplies that the country needs. He first used it to boost the production of covid vaccines earlier this year. Today he announced he has invoked the law for the second time in his presidency, to manufacture 22,000 new Fire Hoses. These hoses are manufactured by an american company based in oklahoma, and then they get into the hands of firefighters all over the country. Honestly, its a fascinating story, right . The president using this tool from another era to basically magic up 22,000 Fire Hoses to fight this absolutely brutal Fire Season out west, but in the biggest picture of all, President Biden keeps saying what he feels like he needs to prove to the world right now is that the u. S. 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