Californias election to recall democratic Governor Gavin Newsom. President biden just joined him at a Campaign Rally in long beach. Newsom needs a simple majority to hang onto his job and his nearterm political future. Tonight they offered this message to voters. Racial justice is on the ballot tomorrow night. Economic justice is on the ballot tomorrow night. The eyes of the nation are on california because the decision youre about to make isnt just going to have a huge impact on california, its going to reverberate around the nation and, quite frankly, not a joke, around the world. Republican Front Runner and conservative Talk Show Host Larry Elder seems seems already seems to be using, i should say, the trump 2020 Campaign Playbook trying to cast doubt on the integrity of the election even before its decided. Elders campaign is promoting a website thats already making the false claim that, quote, statistical analyses used to detect fraud in elections held in Third World nations such as russia, Venezuela And Iran have Detukted Fraud In California resulting in Governor Gavin Newsom being reinstated as governor. Again, the Recall Voting Isnt even over yet. We dont know the result. Earlier today, our own Jacob Soboroff asked elder if hed commit to accepting the results. Whether or not you win or lose, will you accept the results of the Election Tomorrow . I think we all ought to be looking at election integrity, no matter whether youre a democrat, an independent, or a republican. Lets all make sure that the election is a fair election, so lets all work together no matter what the results are to make sure that the results are valid and legitimate and everybody who voted should have voted. And as for the former twice impeached president himself, he stayed true to form issuing a Statement Today complete with misinformation and falsehoods, which ask the question, quote, does anybody really believe the California Recall Election isnt rigged . Similar false claims about the 2020 president ial election fueled the Insurrection And Desecration of our capitol back on January 6th. Another rally scheduled for this coming saturday to support those being prosecuted for their role in that riot has washington On High alert. Overnight, Capitol Police arrested a California Man near the democratic party headquarters not far from the Capitol Building who they say had a machete, a bayonet, and multiple knives in his truck. His vehicle stood out to police when they saw a swastika and other white supremacist symbols painted on it ask that he the suspect told him that he was, quote, on patrol. This morning the Capitol Police Chief confirmed the sevenfoot tall fence that was installed too late to stop January 6th will be reinstalled this week ahead of saturdays rally, and he briefed four congressional leaders on other security preparations. Just the Intelligence Information that were aware of and a little bit about our operational plan, what we plan to do. The fence will go up a day or two before and, if everything goes well, it will go down, come down very soon after. Meanwhile, the latest numbers on the pandemic reveal its continuing spread across our country. There are now over 41 Million cases in our country. The number of americans lost to this virus is now north of 665,000 souls. A new Cnn Poll found a slim majority supporting measures to require vaccinations for daily activities. 51 of those surveyed say a mandate is an acceptable way to increase the vaccination rate, while 49 call it unacceptable infringement on personal rights. Even so, republican governors are intensifying efforts to resist and, in some cases, even penalize enforcement of the president s latest Vaccine Requirements. If a Government Agency in the state of florida forces a vaccine as a condition to employment, that violates florida law, and you will face [ cheers and applause ] and you will face a 5,000 fine for every single violation. Thats Ron Desantis who has degrees from Harvard And Yale. The administration also facing more questions about its military Exit And Evacuation from afghanistan. For Hours Today Secretary of State Blinken defended the withdrawal during the first congressional hearing since u. S. Forces pulled out. Lawmakers from both parties have been critical of how the withdrawal was carried out, but during Todays House foreign affairs hearing, republicans were particularly combative. This was an unmitigated disaster of epic proportions. I never thought in my lifetime that i would see an unconditional surrender to the taliban. We relied upon the taliban to be our security. In essence we ended up getting 13 of our Military Personnel and over 150 afghan civilians killed by relying on the taliban. They didnt provide very good security. We never should have relied on them. We were not relying upon the taliban. As you know what happened was the Afghan Security Forces and the government collapsed within the space of 11 days. Do you take any responsibility, secretary blinken, for this disastrous withdrawal . Im responsible for the decisions that i make. We made the right decision in ending americas longest war. And it went on about like that. There were also calls for blinkens resignation. He can expect a similar Grilling Tomorrow when he testifies before the senate foreign affairs committee. With that, lets bring in our Starting Line on this back to work Monday Night, ashley parker, Pulitzer Prize winning white House Bureau Chief for the washington post, Lisa Lairer national political correspondent for the New York times, and frank figliuzzi, he is author of the fbi way. He is host of the podcast the bureau. Good Evening And Welcome to you all. Lisa, id like to begin with you with this quote from the l. A. Times today. Quote, the biden administration has a vested interest in the california recalls outcome. A Newsom Victory could lift democrats after a politically challenging several weeks for the president. Lisa, for those who dont triangulate quite The Way we all do, how does this fit into the larger goals for the party and the White House . Well, of course you dont want to over interpret the results of a Recall Election thats highly idiosyncratic with newsoms facing 46 contenders vying to replace them. I think a lot of political strategists and pundits will be watching the outcome of this race to get a sense of what our politics are in this biden era, particularly for democrats, you know, democrats had this amazing motivator in their on the ticket for the past four years that was former President Trump. And he really just motivated their voters to come out in record numbers, received record donations and theres a real question now for democrats without trump on the ticket with President Bidens Approval Rating sinking in the past couple of weeks, will they be able to get the same kind of turnout, even in places like california, which are obviously quite deep blue. So i think the, you know, democrats feel confident about this. They expect newsom to pull this out. But the margin of his victory here, if he does, in fact, win, will really matter. Ashley Parker Af Quote for you, too. This is in your paper the washington post, and he writes it this way. The next month is Make Or Break, not only for President Biden and the future of american social policy, but also for the right to vote and our democracy itself. The horror of what so many republicandominated State Governments have done most recently in texas to restrict access to the ballot and undercut the honest and nonpartisan counting of ballots presents democrats with only two options. Act uncompromisingly at the national level to ensure democracy everywhere or accept that many states in our union will in important ways cease to be democratic. Ashley, is there evidence that this movement the former president gave rise to questioning the legitimacy of all elections where they may not like the result, is that just going to become part of the permanent standing republican brand henceforth . Well, its certainly not going away anytime soon. This is sort of the lingering hangover or long shadow of former President Trump. Not just democrats but the system Writ Large is really having to grapple with, which is that President Trump while he was president and in office and even now out of office threatening a run in 2024 has really posed an existential threat to Small D democracy. And it is a question of how do secretary of states handle the fact that theyre getting death threats. How do candidates and local election officials handle the fact that now if somebody loses an election they will simply claim or they can simply claim that it is fraud, that it was fake, and that there are large swaths of the country who will accept that as fact and putting it forward, how do they grapple with the fact that something like January 6th is not a sort of distant horror and never again moment, but its something that washington is readying itself for, another potential rally. A rally basically in support of the insurrectionists this coming weekend. Frank figliuzzi, we use this Shorthand Tossoff Phrase The Big Lie when it actually means so much more. It goes right to the integrity of our elections and It Led on 1 6 to an attack on the result of our elections, in addition to our lawmakers and the center of our government. Talk about the broader threat that this phrase, this notion represents. You know, its worth noting, brian, that theres a common thread through at least three of the topics that you cited in your introduction. That common thread is disinformation is a lie. If you look at the topic of the california recall Election Tomorrow, theyve it seems that people have already seeded this idea that this is rigged. Theres no verifiable fact behind that. If you look at the Rally Plan for d. C. On saturday, why are people showing up at this rally . Theyve bought into a big lie that trump had the election stolen from him, that hes still a legitimate president. If you look even at the pandemic topic, and Peoples Refusal to take vaccines. Whats that based on . Its based on their false notion that somehow an fda approved vaccine is unsafe for them. The role of disinformation has become extremely dangerous for us in terms of democracy, and even to the point where someones willing to die because they wont take a vaccine that protects them against a deadly virus. So this saturday ill be looking not only at the physical security. We know now that the fence sadly has to go back up around the capitol, but ill be looking at those who incite violence. Im all about free Speech And Freedom of assembly, thats why we have permits for rallies where people can spout all kinds of ideas. Thats great. Thats america. But ill be looking for people, even elected officials getting up at the podium and inciting people to violence by repeating lie after lie after lie. Thats not freedom. Thats something other than freedom. Thats a crime, and thats what we have to be looking for. Ill return in our next round of questions to you, frank, about this saturday. Lisa, you heard frank just raise the notion of vaccines. The biden administration has just gone a level deeper in their push for vaccines angering republicans all across the country. Are there real costs, lisa, to biden for the part of his job that is advocating Public Health . Well, i think, you know, that remains to be seen. Politically, it certainly doesnt feel that way now. And the White House for a long time had resisted imposing these kinds of rules, doing anything that could be construed as a man tate, even uttering the Word Mandate because they were worried that those kinds of mandates would convince republicans and others who are vaccine hesitant, it would make them more reluctant to get the vaccines. They were worried it would not accomplish their public Health Goal of getting as many people vaccinated as possible. I think the reason they turned around on that is they realized the public was on their side. When you look at polling numbers, majority of people support stricter rules around masking, around vaccines. They want to see proof of vaccination to go on an airplane, to ride public transit, to eat at a restaurant. The public is overwhelmingly behind the president. I think the republican party and the base of the republican party is not. Thats why you see the divide between these republican grps who are playing to their base and between the approach the president has taken. Well have to see whether it ends up being successful from a Public Health standpoint, but politically it also helps them, it puts them in line with the majority of the american public and also helps them really change turn change the subject from a damaging couple of weeks. Ashley, does it feel like an attempt at a reset this week in the biden White House . It sure does. If you just look at his public schedule, hes out west now. He has a couple of stops, and then hes back in d. C. Throughout it all, theres a couple of through lines. One is talking about Climate Change, and another is talking about his infrastructure plan, build back better, and this broad er reconciliation bill. In part by no fault of his own and in part by his own actions, hes had to deal with a number of crises outside of his kroll. The delta variant, the afghanistan withdrawal a slew of natural disasters in the past ten days. You know, he visited New Orleans, he visited New York and new jersey. Hes now touring Wildfire Damage out in california. So on the one hand, they were distrack tenants, on the oerd hand, these natural disasters were a bit of an opportunity. They give him a chance to showcase what he says he does best, which is sort of compassion and competent to talk about a crises not of his own making and to use them to not just sort of talk about Climate Change in the abstract, but to tie it to something that is making its way very slowly, very haltingly through congress right now, which is of the utmost important to him and democrats, and thats this huge reconciliation package. And frank, as promised, back to this upcoming saturday rally. I know you stay in close touch with your former colleagues in the Intel And Counterintel business. Are you convinced that from the federal level on down theyve got this thing handled . Im encouraged by what im hearing and seeing, and i like the fact that there have been lessons learned from January 6th and there should be. Im not yet convinced that all of the laws and techniques are in place, but the right things are happening. Heres what im hearing. Theres conflicting intelligence here. Theres proud boys and other groups who are chatting on private forums about coming to d. C. They seem energized by the Vaccine Requirements that biden has now laid down, that even though they were planning not to come because of security concerns, now theyre saying theyre going to come. That theres an equal or greater amount saying lets not go. Were going to get arrested. Theres too much security. Lets go local and lets plan even for another date. So September 25th now is a date where many rallies in florida, georgia, texas, are now being planned. Washington state. So theres alternate locations, alternate dates. This causes me to actually wonder about the ability of local, county, and state authorities to handle the stress of what theyre going to face in the coming weeks locally. Thats something to keep an yay on. I do think theres going to be strong security in d. C. It will be a test of the security posture. It will also be a Litmus Test to see if the 600 some odd arrests so far regarding January 6th have had an impact on people saying im not going, i dont want the handcuffs. Viewers, please note what tonights conversation means as a marker of where we are in the late summer, early fall of 2021. Much obliged to our Starting Line tonight, ashley parker, lisa lair, frank figliuzzi, our thanks for starting us off. Coming up, what do californias recall battle, next Weekends Capitol Hill protest and this new Texas Abortion Law all have in common . Well, it depends on who you ask, and we will ask our political experts. And later, its getting hard to tell whats worse, the fight against the virus that is exhausting our hospitals or the antimask and antivaxxers targeting those same hospitals. Well get the latest from one of our top doctors, all of it as The 11th Hour is just getting underway on this back to work Monday Night. To work Monday Night for people living with hiv, keep being you. 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Whatever the outcome of this California Recall Election reaction from the republican party will be all too predictable. Nbc news reporting it this way, and we quote, republicans are already arguing the groundwork to argue the election was stolen even before a single ballot was reported and a victor declared, an increasingly common tactic. Back with us, victoria, Professor And Assistant dean at the Lbj School of public affairs, and matthew doud, former george w. Bush Strategist And Founder of country over party. To our two texas friends, a big welcome back to the broadcast tonight. Professor, id like to begin with you. There was a recall in california where californians woke up to Gray Davis getting the boot and a new governor named arnold schwarzenegger. Do you hazard a prediction for tomorrow . I dont like to hazard predictions, but i do think that were dealing with two totally different scenarios here, with arnold schwarzenegger, we didnt have the ecosystem of trumpism. And in the clip you just played, brian, we heard that Gavin Newsom has squarely made this a part of trumpism. I think that trumpism is squarely on the ballot. That being said, recalls happen as a result of political missteps. Gray davis had political missteps, which then opened The Way for arnold schwarzenegger, a very charismatic, hollywood known personality to enter. Here we saw political missteps again from Gavin Newsom. Gavin newsom just fit that stereotype that is given for democrats, a Limousine Liberal where there was already murmurs of there being a recall among republicans among that trump base. When we see that dinner at the french laundry, when we find out that his kids were actually in inperson school, it just is fodder for that. Now that is into very much a referendum On Trumpism in california. Matthew, despite the evidence that in georgia it may have suppressed republican Voter Turnout and resulted in the election of two democrats to the u. S. Senate, do you really believe republicans are going to make this the election is rigged well in Advance Part of their brand . Well, i think the answer to that is its become part of their dna, and its not really any more about donald trump. Its become an inherent part of the republican Playbook Or Message thing or whatever to undermine our democracy, actually. When you basically question the credibility of an election and cause a substantial minority of our population to not believe election results, it frays our democracy, and it breaks the bones of it, and i think this is here to stay. As your Piece Led into this, theyre not only not waiting until the election results, theyre like getting in an hd Wells Time Machine and discovering like eloys and morelocks before they even happen that theyre even advancing this cause. So i think this in california, its happening in texas in a different way through the Voting Rights and everything else theyve done. I think fundamentally what this shows is the republicans are only really concerned about 5 of the population of the united states, about 5 . 5 of the population of california is about 2 Million people, and if less than 2 Million people put their names on the ballot to get the recall in place. About 5 of the population in texas votes in republican primaries and thats all who greg Abbott And Dan Patrick Lieutenant Governor are concerned about. So weve reached the point of they no longer want the majority, they no longer believe the majority and their entire concern is with about 5 of the population of the country whos aligned with this antidemocratic agenda. Take 60 more seconds and answer for me the question people are probably asking as they listen to you. How is that sustainable . How does that govern or improve our nation a whit . Well, its not sustainable, brian, in the longterm because the entirety of the population of the country is changing, and the republicans realize that. They understand the countrys becoming multicultural, multidiverse, and thats what i think theyre most afraid of because they know theyre out of alignment with that. But our system as it exists today, which needs great reforms is no longer a system that allows the majority to rule. We see it in congress. We see it in state after state after state. Its become the tyranny of the minority. It is awful, absolutely awful in the shortterm for governance and solving any of the big issues we have today and bringing us together in any kind of unified way behind some ideals. In the longterm its very problematic, and i think the republicans will ultimately pay the price in the longterm, but in the shortterm, were in desperate shape as a functioning democracy in this country, in the world. To our viewers, both of these proud texans have agreed to stay with us over the break. 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Most notably the governor of texas recently signed into law a vile new Voter Suppression Bill that ranks as one of the most draconian and undramatic in history. This is unacceptable. The senate must act. I intend to hold a vote in the senate as early as next week on Voting Rights legislation. Time, time, is of the essence. Still with us, vick tore owe Defrancesco Soto and matthew doud. Professor, i want to circle back to Voting Rights in a hot minute, but first, considering texas leading the nation in Voting Restrictions and choice restrictions, tell our audience whats going to happen when redistricting comes up . I believe we have about a week until that starts. Right, so a week from today the second special legislative session starts, which is dedicated to redrawing the lines. And what we see in texas is a hard right turn. Some think, okay, it has gone too far to the right. It will snap back, but what were looking at with the you coming redistricting, under a republicanled legislature is a lot of the things that we have seen over the last year, over the past couple of years, are going to be institutionalized because republicans are squarely in the Drivers Seat of drawing those maps. And brian, this is the first time in recent history that were going to be having maps drown without the protections from section 5 of the Voting Rights act. That was repealed, that was struck down by the Supreme Court in 2013. This is also a scenario where we dont have the Supreme Court saying partisan gerrymandering is unconstitutional. They found that constitutional in 2019 and that overlaps with racial and ethnic partisan groups. And last thing one that concerns me in addition is we know our communities of color are concentrated in just a couple pockets in the state, which leads to the tried and true mechanism of packing folks into districts to suppress their voice. So you start adding all of these pieces together, the lack of the vra protections, the 2019 Supreme Court case, the packing the geography of it, and this leads to a very scary scenario where the changes we saw are going to be entrenched for another ten years. So matthew, over to Voting Rights, i dont know much, but Senator Schumer going very u. S. Senate and using the word unacceptable to talk about the situation in texas probably doesnt match the Vehemence And Energy on the other side in what is a political knife fight. What confidence have you of voting Rights Relief at the federal level . Well, i mean, ive grown increasingly frustrated that the democrats are not using every tool at their disposal including abandoning of the filibuster, which is a worn out relic that protected the minority politically of the country and now its preventing majority things from happening around the country. I dont i mean, at some point republicans have abandoned any rules and any Shame And Anything to do what they want to do. I think the democrats have to stay ethical and stay legal. They need to explore the Tool Kit a little bit more than theyve already done. I mean, this is the situation. Texas, the democrats here did their best they could by prevents this for as long as they could and have been breaking the quorum and doing all the things, went up to washington and doing all that. And texas is in a wildfire over Voting Rights and all the texans were doing going up to washington were saying we dont need you to solve all the problems. Just give Aus Bucket of water. Just give us a bucket of water. If you give us the bucket of water, well fight it out here. I hope because a majority of the country want s this, i hope it happens in this case, i hope if anybodys concerned about any issue that matters, gun, Health Care, infrastructure, and all that, all of those dont matter if Voting Rights are taken away, ask thats what this is fundamentally about. I hope the senate and i hope Chuck Schumer can get this through. At this point were in september, weve now spent almost nine months after January 6th to get here and still nothings been done on Voting Rights. Im still hopeful, but im incredibly frustrated on the pace upon which this has been done. There are great people in the always hopeful state of texas, our thanks to two of them for being our guest tonight, professor victoria Defrancesco Soto, and matthew doud, friends of the broadcast both. Greatly appreciate it, guys, thanks. Coming up for us, one of our top doctors on the ever deepening divisions in this country from mask wearing to getting a Booster Shot or getting the shot at all. 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Its yet another disturbing example of what the already strained Health Care Work Force is up against during this already deadly pandemic. Back with us again tonight, dr. Kavita patel, clinical physician, former senior Policy Aide during the obama administration. Also one of our Public Health experts on a nonresident fellow at brookings. All right, doctor, what is the truth about ivermectin, including but not limited to the use in humans its been approved for . Yeah, so brian, ivermectin is a medication that we have used in humans to treat parasites. Its also been used, as you know, in animals. Thats unfortunately, where many current people have tried to get their ivermectin. I have prescribed it, limited cases, people who have had parasites from travel abroad, other Presenting Symptoms and the evidence there have been several trials, very large trials, in fact, brian, looking at the potential for ivermectin in use in treatment in covid, a large one conducted in india as well as several in the united states, all of them have found and resoundingly that there is no benefit from the use of Ie Ver Medical Care tin. You still see from several prominent physicians who have put up very large kind of websites, facebook ads and have done a great job spreading misinformation that ivermectin is one of the recommended quote, protocols to, quote, beat covid, none of the doctors you have ever talked to and i work with would prescribe it. We know people are and we know patients are getting it from veterinary supply stores because theyve run out of ivermectin which is incredibly dangerous to take in that form, and can actually result in Toxicity And Death in some cases. Thank you for clearing that up. I also want to read back to you something you wrote for our website, and it is this. This is about vaccines. Mandates can have negative and Unintended Consequences if they are not accompanied with strong and clear communication around science and Public Health. The president finally articulated thursday what so much of the country has felt, enough is enough. His challenge now is to implement his bold policy initiatives through the inevitable avalanche of noise and distractions. So doc, the problem is the noise is formidable. I mean, the florida governor, again, he of the degrees from Harvard And Yale allowed straight up quack medicine to be dispensed from his podium today. Never said a word about it, never corrected the record. Thats some official sounding noise. Yeah, it is, and i think that unfortunately, brian, you know, look, if you live in the state of florida, even if youre not aligned with a political party, one Rationale Human would think that your governor is acting in your best interest, despite political sides, et cetera, left and right. Here is a clear situation where you have not just one governor who has some sort of future president ial aspirations, but you have many other governors falling in line, and then unfortunately, local officials who are really short on time and trying to just put forward what they hear some of their leadership say, and i think that thats clearly something the biden administration has had to confront in every situation. They knew this would happen with mandates, by The Way, brian, you know they didnt go through this lightly. I do think that the Misinformation Campaign and anything that gets put out by political leaders dwarves some of the abilities i think the american people have just gotten so tired of it, and were all so sick of not understanding how to get out of this that thats the breakthrough. But we do need clear communication, boosters and all these other things throw in these possible kind of boomerangs on confusion. Confusion comes back at you when you start to think i got j j, what do i do next . Thats where this administration has to be kind of firing on all cylinders. I see evidence of that, but theres certainly more they should do. Dr. Kavita patel, thank you as we always do for always taking our questions and for your forthright answers, dr. Kavita patel has been our guest again tonight. Coming up for us, marking an inauspicious onemonth anniversary. Energy is everywhere. Even in a little seedling. Which, when turned into fuel, can help power a plane. 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Here with that our chief foreign correspondent richard engel. Perhaps no single image sums up americas longest war more than the u. S. Embassy In Kabul now painted over with the taliban flag. Less than a month ago, american helicopters were taking off from here evacuating diplomats to Kabul Airport as the taliban captured the city. Intelligence agencies did not say collapse was imminent. This unfolded more quickly than we anticipated. Reporter now the embassy is empty, taliban flags sold as souvenirs outside. A group of taliban fighters stood guard nearby. America never thought we would win, one said, but we had gods support, and now whatever america does, we can never be defeated. The taliban may be confident, but their taking a different approach because they know many afghans are afraid of them. When kabul fell, Hundreds Of Thousands rushed to the airport, including obey dela, a young economist who worked for the former government. He couldnt get out. What have they done to make you feel that way . Theyre heavier with people. Reporter the taliban are allowing girls and women to go to school and university, separated by gender, veils required, but no burkas. A big change from when the taliban ruled in the 1990s, but have they really changed . Several videos which the taliban say they are investigating appear to show abuses including one in which fighters seem to be execuing an unarmed man. Secretary of State Blinken today said the taliban need to do more to earn trust. The interim government named by the taliban falls very short of the mark that was set by the international community for inclusivity. Reporter the taliban are trying to show theyve changed with the times. At some check points today, brian, they even smiled. Its still taliban rule, but softer. Its unclear if or for how long it will last. Brian. Richard engel with that Report Tonight, thank you, my friend. 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He devoted this Weekends Event to bolstering a system of weather instruments to make forecasts more accurate. And this is important not necessarily because of what he said but because it feeds a kind of false narrative being perpetuated right now. Just days earlier, remember, schumer was with the president as they toured the flooding from the remnants of Hurricane Ida in the new York City borough of queens. The governor of New York and the mayor of New York blamed inaccurate forecasts and warnings for the staggering toll of death and damage, but the truth is the forecasts and the Flash Flood warnings were astonishly accurate if you were paying attention. The national weather is a national treasure. Their meteorologists are the essence of public service. Theyre on duty 24 7, they are busy, in fact, tonight, issuing warnings as Hurricane Nicholas heads inland bringing awful flooding from houston all the Way East to New Orleans and beyond. The problem is not the national weather service. In fact, the problem just might be us. Warnings are so often ignored. They are supposed to sound on your phone, unless, of course, the last Amber Alert Tone interrupted your last Zoom Call and you turned off your notifications. That means you could miss the next tornado or Flash Flood warning. Overuse of Warning Systems is the modern Day Definition of Crying Wolf. We witnessed this dynamic in realtime On Saturday during our live 9 11 anniversary coverage. We were watching a solemn moment in shanksville, pennsylvania when this happened while correspondent Geoff Bennett was on the air. The president and the First Lady are going to lay a wreath. Were getting some sort of Emergency Alert here in shanksville, well find out what thats all about. Now, the further truth is we failed in that moment. We left the audience hanging. We never went back and let the viewers in on what that Alert Tone was about. Sadly, we later learned the national Park Service sent out an alert that the Flight 93 National Memorial was now open to the public. It fell to Steve Portnoy of Cbs News to speak for all of us. Two of these alerts with their abrasive halting and Haunting Tones came screaming over the Cell Phones of flight 93 families as they gathered at the memorial wall. This misuse of the weather Emergency Alert system sent shutters through the crowd, an event we also note that hosted two american president s under heavy security. So the problem isnt our technology or our ability. Its how we use it. The information is there, but incidents like effort to get folks to pay attention. And that is our broadcast on this back to work Monday Night. With our thanks for being with heres. On behalf of all of our colleagues at the Networks Event is nbc news. Good night. Im really happy to have you with us tonight. Are you ready to Time Travel with me . Shall we do this together . 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