What happened to her last husband . Whoever did this was very evil. The hurt, the anger. It makes you question everybody. It seems alive, somehow, in the appalachians of the tennessee mountains. The creepy tendrils of Mountain Misted snake and swirl. Like lies. There is gold in there, somewhere, so they say. A sort of place where you could strike it rich, or maybe get away with murder. Very scary. Shocking. And devastating. So, after that serious death here, who can Anyone Trust . Dearest friends . The royal betrayal come to mind . Oh, absolutely. Brothers in arms . Its beyond disturbing. Closest family . She looked at me as if she wished i was, dead. Maybe No One. We were always looking over our shoulder. It might still be, had it not been for him. Pretty shocking stuff . I dont think i will work anything like this again in my career, just because of the different twists and turns. Yes. In that toxic swamp of secret identities, of Heroes And Villains driven by greed, last, power, however set this up and did this was very evil. Oh, so many lies. Everything that you are taught as a kid, was a lie. This place, where the story begins, seems created not for lies, but for love. The triangle waters and soft sunsets of back bradenton, florida. And heres where it seems like its an unlikely place for love, but it struck a County Detective named Bob Clancy. Thing to say bobby, i say how many hours we have left to tell a funny man, oh welcome to best qualities. I kitchen and very said his necessary just people would be excited to go over and see like you got a new animal, you know, like he got us a Little Turtle as a kid. He was a real animal guy . He was. Good night kristen. Loved his nieces as well. I used to take us out on a boat, he just always took care of us. Just like he took care of his Sister Kathy when they were kids. Was always like the Two Of Us doing everything. Causing havoc . Yeah. As this Sheriff Deputy, said his Sister Kathy, he once faced down a violent gang. They had knocked him down, took his gun, everything and beat him up. As a matter of fact, they fired a shot but missed. So he barely made it through that one . His Marriage Couldnt take it, and Bob Clancy saw love elsewhere. And then a bell at the Sheriffs Department and aloof secretary known as martha and caught his eye. And was he crazy about her . Yes. He really. Was how to close where . There they seem very close. Very much in love. As much as we knew them, they always looked out for Each Other. It was a real love much. Yes. Martha and had two sons. I always respected my mom. She was very charming. Highly intelligent. Shawn was adopted as the baby, met jen as a teenager, she became his wife. Where sean was from was not discussed at home, then he had martha and, the only mother he had ever known. A mother is the sun and the moon in The Stars to a little kid. Did it feel like she was . I was always told since a young age that, the only people you can trust, completely, are your parents. In the mid 90s, Shawns Mom Martha and was going through a painful divorce and then fell for the detective, bob. Bob was very down to earth. He taught me a lot of things. Like what . How to be a man. How to be a real person. Sounds like you liked bob . I liked bob a lot. In 1995, Bob And Martha and got married. And on holidays, Bob Sister kathy got closer to martha and. We would go out shopping, that was our big thanksgiving. Bobby would stay home, the girls would just take off and go shopping. Bob and martha and retired in the late 90s, left florida, and bought a big secluded Hillside Cabin in east of tennessee in the shadow of the smoky mountains. Not far from where martha and grew up in coaker by then, shawn engine had their own family and visited from time to time. Bob especially. Oh yeah. He would treat our kids great. He was fond of them . He was the real deal. Martha and went back to work, accounting job. She loved numbers. They made time for friends as well, like debbie hartman. We met in church. Bob and martha and just became very dear friends. And in martha and, debbie found her soulmate. She was what i would refer to as the quintessential southern lady. She was like assisted to me. We had the same type of upbringing, the same type of morals, we had fun together. We enjoyed sharing recipes together. She had two boys, i had two girls. We will talk about our children. We would just were very, very close. Over the years they shared cookouts, road trips, church events, just like two peas from the same pod. You could just see, said debbie, how much Bob And Martha and loved Each Other. Never once did i hear them argue or have a sour word against one another, never. Just very loving. Like the perfect couple. And then, may 2006, martha and was at work. A Family Friend stopped by to see bob at home. In front of him, well he called 911. 911, where is your emergency . Coaker creek. Martha and got home, then called for her friend, debbie. She is screaming, she is saying, bobs dead. Im saying, bobs dead . Coming up, what happened to Bob Clancy. I called i cried for ten hours, i can believe a law such a great man. Shocking. The Two Of Us just cried our eyes out. Next thing you know, sheriff comes down and im like, one in the world is going down on . She said, i dont know. When dateline continues. When dateline continues and pilling. New woolite has evercare, a first of its Kind Formula that keeps todays fabrics looking like new. New woolite with evercare its the biggest sale of the year, on the new Sleep Number 360 smart bed. Its the most comfortable, duallyadjustable, footwarming, temperaturebalancing, proven Quality Night Sleep weve ever made. Save 50 on the new Sleep Number 360 limited edition smart bed. Plus, 0 interest for 48 months. Ends monday. Introducing xfinity rewards. 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What did you see when you got there . I felt Robert Mcclain see in a recliner. He had a pistol in one hand, an empty bottle of pills in the other hand. Have you ever seen such a thing . No. The Gun Hadnt been fired. There were pales strewn all over obama clancys body. A white phone around his mouth pointed to an overdose. I Do Not Resuscitate note signed by Bob Mcclancy and left in the kitchen, said he wanted to die. Did you see this Do Not Resuscitate order . I did. It looks like suicide. And martha and had to spread the bread dreadful news to bobs nieces and family in florida. When you got The Call, what does it do to you to hear that about somebody you are so close to . We were in disbelief. Its like a nightmare. Yeah. Shocking. I cant imagine. When she told me he took an overdose and killed himself. Do you still remember that moment . Yes, i do. It affected me quite a while. Shawn as well was griff striking stroke in when he heard about his stepdad. I think i cried for ten hours driving from florida to tennessee. I couldnt believe we lost such a great man. But, shocking as it was, to those who knew Bob Mcclancy, it was not a complete surprise. Why . Four letters, ptsd. Posttraumatic stress disorder. Back when the Vietnam War was sneaking into the bloody, dumps bob volunteered to go as a marine. It took its toll. As did lifethreatening injuries during his police career. Bob had been on heavy medication, but still suffered flashes, nightmares, depression. He said to me one day, im having a rough time at the moment. I havent been sleeping well. He said, so, i will get up and i will sit in the chair in the hallway, and what worries me is if i fall asleep in the chair, and maybe are martha and would get up to go to the restroom, maybe i will attack her. He said, im having issues. He said it kind of worries me. Martha and told debbie she was very troubled. She said, im trying. When im at work, he will get into his pills. She said bob is abusing it. Bobs Sister Kathy had also seen warning signs. How did you become aware that ptsd was really beginning to come a factor in his life that had to be dealt with . We have been out for thanksgiving, he had explained to me that right after the holidays there was a program, he was going to enter it. Now it came up he was going to do that program and i found it shocking. Shocking . Yeah. He never seem like that it all . You never seem like. That just happy, jovial guy. Yes. Bobs new Years Resolution for 2006 was to finally beat ptsd. And in january, he set off to nashville for an attentive Sixweek Program run by the va. Soon after he got there, he called a Sister Kathy with hope and his voice. He had made a new friend. His roommate, charles cause more sick, one by chuck. He went and said he finally found somebody to talk to who understood one when he went through in vietnam, because chuck was there. You need someone whos been through the same thing. He, yeah right. So he was happy. Bobs new veteran french quiz no average runt. He was the very model of a War Hero. Special forces airmen, citation for valor, most operations. He was invited to the president ial inauguration. Chalk was a sort of tonic that bob needed. This relationship continued after the program was over right . Yes. After they got out of the program in February Bob spent most of his time with chuck. They did handymens jobs at Each Others home. Bob kind of replaced everybody else with chuck. Chuck was everything. But, Bobs Ptsd persisted. Martha ended what she could to pick up bobs spirits, though that seemed to backfire when she got to make over. She had had her hair cut short and blond. Big change . Yes, i was like, Oh My God. You look beautiful. She said, im certainly glad you like it because bob doesnt like it at all. He had a fit that i had caught my hair off. I said, a lot of men like women with lady with long hair. When martha and was at work, chuck kept an eye on bob. Chuck was riGht There. Bob wasnt a downward spiral. Martha and complained that bob was abusing his anti depressants, and Martha Anne and chuck found themself managing one painful scare after another. In one episode, they rushed bob to the Va Hospital more than three hours away passed out of the in the car. Out of it. I understand they had to stop the car to do cpr on him. Bob was stabilized, after he was deemed well enough, sent home. Two days later, on the monday in may, martha and got up early and went to work as usual. She had arranged for Chuck To check in on bob that afternoon. It was he who found bob, call 911. W arrived later to find Police Cars and ambulances and a frantic martha and. So, the Two Of Us just sat there and hugged Each Other and, bold, and just cried our eyes out. It was horrible. Bob is dead. In the next thing you know, the sheriff comes out with chuck, in a tshirt, and i am like, one in the world is going on . Shes like, i dont know. So, they drove off with chuck. Coming up, police have some questions for chuck. They came in and found your friend. It wasnt because it he was rushing around an upset . No. He was calm. It was suspicious. Maybe you got a crime here . Yes. When dateline continues. Teline continues i keep my social distance. Shingles doesnt care. I stay within my family bubble. Shingles doesnt care. Because if youve had chicken pox, youre already carrying the virus that causes shingles. In fact, about 1 in 3 people will develop shingles, and the risk only increases as you age. So what can protect you against shingles . Shingrix protects. Now you can protect yourself from shingles with a vaccine proven to be over 90 effective. Shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. 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And shawn was filled with a flood of Sorrow And Guilt that he hadnt been there for his stepdad bob, as bob had been there for him. Bob took care of me, every day. It will milk you feel close to a person . It did. Then he tried, in vain, to ease Martha Annes grief. I will talk about fun things we did with bob. That wouldnt happen anymore. Then i would start balling, then she would start falling with me. To make it even worse, bobs best Friend Chuck had been taking away by sheriffs deputies. Debbie watched as Martha Anne trying to deal with her own sorrow as she planned her husbands funeral, anxious at the same time for her friend, that the small town cops had the wrong idea about chuck. I said, you know, this was bobs best buddy. You are grieving for bob, now you have to take care of chuck. A tough situation. It was about to get tougher. Courtesy of the Sheriff Deputy travis jones. Something strange here, he thought. He in the other detectives. They held chuck for questioning. For one thing, why was he so cool . His best buddy was lying there dead. He wasnt kind of rushing around at all upset . No. Calm . He was calm, which was kind of suspicious minute self. To come in and find your friend dead, and he was calm. As he had been calm, and kind of strange on the 911 call. Mr. Mcclancy Ax Plate appears to be expired. The operator said he should try to revive bob. If you want to do cpr i can give you instructions . We do have a Do Not Resuscitate order on him. Chuck didnt seem to want to save his own friend. That Do Not Resuscitate seemed to convenient. Maybe youve got a crime here . Yes. Travis jones wasnt alone. Bob Sister Kathy had her doubts as well. Kathy knew bob suffered from ptsd and took medication, but she refused to believe her brother would kill himself. He could have part of his finger hanging off, he would Duct Tape it up and keep going. Yeah. Thats the kind of guy you saw as well . Yeah. So, uphill popping brother did not make any sense to you . No, did not. Suspicions deepened. A week later when they travel to bobs funeral in tennessee. Deep in their grief, they saw friend who reported Bobs Death to the police and was back in the community as police continue to look into. It his name was Chuck Chuck Kasmeryk how would you describe him . There was something very creepy. When he stared a you would like he could stare through. He seems like a tough military guy. There was a look about him. The cold stare. Yeah. Then kathy got a copy of the 911 call, and what you heard, it sounded like the verbal equivalent of 1000 yard stare. Mr. Mcclancy ex appears to be expired. I played the tape, i plated over and over, wrote down what was word for word. It didnt make sense, a couple of things. First he said he didnt touch the body, then he told the 911 operator when he asked about cpr, he said he didnt need it. He was already gone. If you didnt touch the body, how would you know he was gone . How do you go on after that when you are full of these dads and suspicions . You go on, you dont have a choice. But i knew i would not let it drop. In The End, even though chuck was questioned at length, everything he did put under a microscope, this is suspicion appeared to be unfounded. The corner actually ruled it a suicide. And then, in the weeks and months after Bobs Death, as suspicions dissipated like the mist in the surrounding hills, chuck could once again walk with his head held high. When we did the Veterans Parade and knoxville, they put him on the top because he was the most highly decorated after the awful tragedy of Bobs Death, chuck got on with his life again and said goodbye to his dear friend, and comforted bobs widow, Martha Anne. Oh boy. Coming up, hes lost his Best Friend, she lost her husband. Two grieving friends, a growing feeling. It was like somebody had just dropped a bomb on my head. A Cruise Ship Courtship . 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When we got there, Martha And Dining Room Set was in chucks dining room. What did you think when you saw that . I said, your furniture is up here . And she said its certainly suits his house a whole lot better than mine. But they are just . Friends they are friends. They are. Friends still, how close were they getting . I called her one day and i said they are taking a cruise. Debbie and her husband had gotten an incredible deal on the weeklong caribbean. Cruz and she said, do you think chuck and i can go along on that cruise . And it was like someone had just dropped a bomb on my head. Chuck and i . I said if there are still spaces available, i am sure she would be able to accommodate you. It turned out, there was still space. And martha and and chalk shared a cabin. So we are on this Cruise Ship and every bit of it they are dressed matching. Now, at mealtimes, when the waiter took orders, chuck spoke for Martha Ann. Chuck would speak up and say, the lady will have. And then he would order for. Her when guests around the table rolled their eyes, said debbie, Martha Ann stiff. And she said my mother taught etiquette. And a waiter would never have the nerve to speak to a lady. Oh my goodness. We were all just speechless, we were like, hello . Do you know Whats Century we are living then. We are allowed to order for ourselves. I was just absolutely floored that you would make a statement like that. A waiter would never have the nerve to speak to a lady. Wow. And i thought, never one that is not chuck. But he would know whats right for to use, excuse. Me debbie outlast confronted her good friend and that is when the other shoe dropped. I looked at her and i said, are you and Chuck Together . And she said yes. And i said are you going to get married . And she said heavens no though she was surprised, debbie wanted her good friend to be happy. And when the docked ship docked in mexico, they went shopping and went back to the liner and compare their treasures. I said, what did You Guys get . And martha and said, you will just have to wait and see. Very mysterious. And it was kind of fun. A few weeks after the cruise, and months after Bobs Death, Martha Ann and by the debbie and her husband to lunch. She said i have something to show you. And i said to her, is this our cozumel surprise. And she pulls out a Ring Box that has the most Gorgeous Ring that you would never lay eyes on. It was breathtaking. Rings . And i went, Oh My God this is exciting. I cant believe. It they were not getting married immediately, but when that time came, Martha Ann assured debbie, she would play the supporting. Role she said i want you to be the Maid Of Honor. And i said i am excited, i would love to be i am ecstatic for you. And i would be glad to be are made of on. Our Big Deal to be asked . Big deal. So, in spite of the apparent sticking around, thought debbie, there was something almost poetic about the romance between Martha Ann and chuck. And maybe even bob would approve. I was just happy that the two of you have found one another. I know we have lost someone dear to us but something good has come out of this. So congratulations and besides romance, there was so much more to celebrate. Martha Ann And Chuck were going places. They were about to be transformed from local tennessee romantic partners into a sophisticated Washington D. C. Power couple. Only in america. Coming up. She met a man from the fbi and she would be traveling on secret missions. Flying on Air Force two, or something . Right. The Vice President. Martha ann this change of fortune. Sitting at my house is this gorgeous 350,000 Dollar Motor Home bus. Wow. And it was too daunting for. When dateline continues. Dateline continues. 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She told me one day that she met a man from the fbi and he offered her a job as a secretary. She was getting a Security Clearance and she would be traveling out of the country on secret missions. As a secretary . Yes. It wasnt long before Martha Ann was promoted, as she told kathy. She was transferred to the State Department. Very hush hush. She had a limo at her disposal, to passports, we and with a Government Pension would have no worries again. Her schedule filled up fast. She was moving in the highest circles. She was already working for, or flying on, Air Force two . With the Vice President. Including traveled to undisclosed locations. She is a hard to get a Hold Of . There was no way of getting Hold Of. Her john, though he moved to tennessee with the wife in the kids and became a bridge inspector, couldnt reach his mom either. I would call my mom to check in on her. And she would go missing for a month at a time, two months at a time. You could not reach her by Cell Phone or home phone. As we find out, shes out traveling the country. We though she was clearly very busy, Martha Ann along with chuck, carved out time giving back to volunteer. Together, they traveled the country, visiting military facilities. They presided over dedications and ceremonies honoring troops. Chuck handed flags to War Widows in cemeteries. Chuck would go out with all these medals and he would go to a local High School and two Veterans Parades. He also reconnected with the guys that he had served with way back when. They were called old times. When i first met chuck, he had just started his training. He fit in like all the other guys. He was one of us. He seemed to be a nice guy. Bill walter and p. J. Koch are combat veterans who, with chuck, were gunners in some of the most powerful gunships in vietnam. They lost touch, easy to do in such a sprawling military. But, decades later, p. J. Ran into chuck and a reunion called the Specter Association. It was kind of good to see the guy who is the guy was served with. I understood he completed his career like i did, i served 22, Years Bill served 30, we gave our whole lives to this unit. Back in the old days, said bill, chucks nickname was kaz now kaz has gone up to the lowest more ranks to the highest. And i said hey, kaz whats up . He said i retired here because. I said, what was your rank . He said i retired as a chief. I said really . Chuck flashed his metals. And chuck says, You Guys should check your classified records. The va checked my classified letters and i found out i got a bunch of high letters from my operation in vietnam. Chuck invited p. J. To his home in knoxville tennessee. I personally saw these awards on The Wall at his House Up in tennessee. What did you think when you saw them . I was floored. I said, thats really great, youve got these. He said oh yeah, the finally released them from classification, here they are. Chuck had an idea. He figured the Specter Association could benefit from Martha Annes high political savvy. Wow, hey, anybody who volunteers to help is great. As the months went by, Martha Anne carved out time from his schedule to become association secretary. She was our recorder. Yes. She was really good at taking down notes and making paper and so forth. Association members were so impressed with the couple, that chuck was promoted to the board, he and martha traveled representing and making a mascot. There was time for fun as well. They reveled in the newfound happiness. They enjoyed the new responsibilities and of course also decided to live a little. Just under nowhere, they said, we would certainly like to have an rv. My wifes, and, well my boss is selling a beautiful rv. Of course they went and looked at the rv, they liked it a lot. So, they made him an offer. Right next to the rv, chuck noticed a garage to anniversary edition corvette. Tempting, we even though he had a mercedes convertible already. I said, i like corvette as well. Show me that. Next thing you know, they bouGht The corvette as well. Pretty soon they were parading nor knew cars for their Friend Debbie. A Hair Knock on the door, i opened the door, sitting in front of my hills is this gorgeous, 350,000 Dollar Motor Home bus. Wow. It was to die for. This is when the wealthy of the wealthiest drive. It had been custommade. To debbie and others, Martha Ann and chuck had made it. They put bobs painful death behind them, and were now a high powered couple doing good things, living well. The sort of successive person wants to share. In early 2008, chuck relished the opportunity to share with a group of young people, stories about his many combat exploits. What do you know . He made his speech and there was a reporter in the room, writing it all down for the local paper. Oops. Coming up, she said, there is more to this story. New lives that seemed like a dream. But chuck and Martha Ann were in for a very rude awakening. The Bs Alarms are going off in my head like you wouldnt believe. When dateline continues. When dateline continues yardwork. Teamwork. Long walks. Thats how you du more, with dupixent, which helps prevent asthma attacks. Dupixent is not for sudden breathing problems. Its an addontreatment for specific types of Moderatetosevere Asthma that can improve Lung Function for better breathing in as little as two weeks. And can reduce, or even eliminate, oral steroids. And Heres Something important. Dupixent can cause serious allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis. Get help right away if you have rash, shortness of breath, chest pain, tingling or numbness in your limbs. Tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection, and dont change or stop your asthma treatments, including steroids, without talking to your doctor. 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I think why family, friends, probably everybody was tired of hearing me say this isnt right, i know something had to have happened. When Martha Ann found the time to respond to kathy, she told her she was imagining things. Did she accuse your meddling . Yeah. She said, your brother always said that you always had to get in peoples business, you can never just let things lie. And i guess that was true. I dont stop until i find out. Then she said, martha and got even more snippy. She literally told me i needed psychiatric help. I needed to get over the fact that my brother killed himself. I said, i will never, i will never believe that. Kathy was in the only one getting the brush off from Martha Ann. Remember how martha and decided that when she eventually got married her best Friend Debbie would be the Maid Of Honor . At the monthly Corvette Club Debbie got a surprise when she asked new members to stand. All of a sudden i hear this, hi, My Name is Chuck Kasmeryk weve bought a new addition corvette. Hang on a second when he got up in the back that day, and he said im check this is my wife, this is the first you knew they were married . This was how i found out. You must have been asleep that day when you are made of honor . I must have. So i said chuck, you know, actually i was kind of hurt. Not surprised. I said, you know, when did you all get married . Oh, we went on a cruise and we got married On The Beach down in some island. I said, wow. You know, im happy for you. And it still hurt but i am happy for you. Rude awakening, but nothing compared to the morning early in 2008, soon after chuck gave his speech to a group of students eager to hear about his many and heroic combat experiences, and a story about Chucks Dog appeared in the newspaper. Very to read it reacted with outrage. At the same time, the Walter Reese hearing about chuck from another veterans group. He is telling all of his war stories, these guys were like, we never have even heard of him before. We had these reunions for 30 summoned years, this is the first one. Your Name Isnt anywhere on here. Special forces guys like Bill And B j. Didnt brag about their service. I am like, he is just some guy spouting off, talking trash, trying to impress his buddies. People want to aggrandize their service, right . Yes, some guys do this very rare around our people. Especially if you are doing it in front of our own people. The veterans called chuck out. Chuck went home, all mad, because they challenged him. They cannot challenge me. Chuck sent the groups official military records, just to prove he was telling the truth. He also told them, due to an emergency, he would be dropping out a circulation for a while. He wouldnt be able to attend any more reunions anytime soon. And the Bs Alarms are going off in my head like you wouldnt believe. Then on the others and form the Air Force, than the Air Force contact with endurance administration. I want to check the sky out. The job failed to federal Marine And Inspector general here in this is a case of a career i dont think a Working Thing like this again just because the different effects twists and turns. Twists and turns that would end up leading to a chilling conclusion. Right away, here is what made her. The people who had served with and warm fanatic that he added participated in these missions he specifically talked about. Iran hostage missions, being on the fall of saigon, vietnam. The city was there he said he was there for all the big . Stuff yes. First up was to check his service record, so we went back to the Air Force and was surprised by what he found in chucks files, not what he expected. His records did contain items substantiating significant Combat Service in vietnam, and after vietnam. Did he have a Silver Heart . Purple heart. Some very high. This is Big Deal stuff. Very high awards. They were substantiated by names, and socials, a names of missions, dates that these missions took place. So, as far as the Air Force knew, he was on the up and up. Yes. Which presented a dilemma for the da investigator. You got really goodlooking documents that are sitting in somebodys Living Room and saying, these are bs . Yes. From the air for Service Members that i heard served with him, every one of them was he was emphatic that he did not participate in any combat it all. At all . Yeah itll. He went back to the Air Force and ask them to double check. The Air Force really started pouring over these documents and commissions and the order numbers, and rather quickly determined that these were all forged documents. They were not legitimate. As chuck had been in the Air Force, yes, but no act of heroism. Chuck had doctored old mission orders, putting his name, and official looking stamps, all convincing enough he was able to get the documents entered into his own Air Force record. They got to an awful lot of trouble to lie about his service. He did. If you lied about his service, they wonder what else the phony War Hero might be hiding . So he kept digging, because down deep, where it really gets mckee, evil waves, and quite possibly, evidence of an unimaginable crime. Coming up, nate would launch a special investigation to learn the truth. We started doing Surveillance On charles and Martha Ann. Check in a wheelchair . Exactly what were they up to. A crime far darker than anything investigators imagined. It just, really, really gave you the Sense Of whoever did this was very evil. When dateline continues. When dateline continues. Except now you have uncontrollable Body Movements called tardive dyskinesia td. And it can seem like thats all people see. 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Who had never donned a Military Uniform in her life showed up at a Veterans Retreat and claimed that she too had rank and medals, and combat experience. She showed off a Purple Heart. Several of the attendees at this retreats, specifically remember her talking about working at the pentagon, being there during the 9 11 attacks. And charles was also telling people that she is a full Bird Nobody questioned her . Then no. They believed her. But nate discovered that military glory, that Big Time Government Career didnt exist. Any of it. There was no highprofile State Department job in Washington D. C. , No Travel abroad Air Force two with the Vice President , no secret undisclosed locations. They were all the fantastic stories of tough sophisticated con artists. A con that wasnt about social prestige either, it was about cash. Chuck and his documents . I knew we had a very substantial Fraud Case because those documents in particular were used to get Benefit Money from the Va And Social Security documents a source documents that gave legitimacy to his. Claim chuck was claiming thousands of dollars a Month And Disability payments. Then, look at this. It looked like was Martha Ann helping talk. For example, she signed on statements we for supporting checks claim for 100 disability. She claimed that he wouldnt be able to clean it help him self, he couldnt bathe, he would wander around the house aimlessly. Guys in bad shape. Really bad shape. He should be getting more money from the Va Than but they are paying him. Tonight it looked like he uncovered a major scam. And if chuck was scamming at the va, what was Martha Ann up to . Nate ran her name and what do you know, Martha Ann she was getting social Security Disability payments herself. She claimed to have back issues where she can walk, she was whipped wheelchair bound. And he did find out that Martha Ann was entitled to some of her dead husbands benefits. She was coming. More they were calling the government for about 10,000 a month. Nate wanted Martha Ann and talk to be charged with fraud. But he needed proof that they were lying about being disabled. So we started doing Surveillance On the net got in the back of surveillance a van with a camera and waited. We had several agents participating in surveillance. And it wasnt long before martha and and chuck appeared outside their home. Here they are, supposedly disabled people. But by the look of it, perfectly fit. We observed them doing hours and hours of yard work. Outside of their. Home strenuous. The very strenuous stuff. For hours at a time. In their knoxville house. Watch them pressure washing their driveway and house. Clearing brush. Bending over, no sign of back trouble, lifting heavy objects. But look at this. Here they are arriving at the va for one of chucks regular assessments. You assume that they were Gonna Change . We quickly found out that this was the case. Martha ann lifts a heavy wheelchair out of the car. She wheels him into the center. Sometimes when they followed Martha Ann she was moving pretty good where you would sweat trying to keep up with her. And when Martha Ann had her appointments . She and chuck would switch positions. It became humourists. The couple had only one wheelchair so nate got to thinking. And heres how dr. Seuss would write it, and then nate cotton idea, a wonderful, devious idea. Which is true in, Aways Neck . Yes. What if nate arranged the schedule so that Martha Ann and chalk had their appointments at the very same time. Who would get in the wheelchair there, he wondered . What happened . Coming up, a conniving couple caught in a trap. This cant be true. When dateline continues. 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So they arrived at the facility and then, as we suspected, they only had one wheelchair. So charles, instead of using a wheelchair, he had a walker. And a. Kane a walker and a . Kane both. And a knee brace. Still flooded. He was toting and Oxygen Tank as. Well as chuck fumbled his way inside, nate and his agents were waiting. Busted. I interviewed charles. We pulled him into an office. And then Martha Ann was being questioned by another Va Agent and social security administration. Martha Ann And Chuck kaczmarczyk had been found out. Chuck was no decorated hero. He was never in combat. No silver stars. No Purple Hearts. Those ribbons, all fake. And martha, had never walked the hallways of the pentagon as a marine colonel, was less present at a 9 11 attack, or flew on Air Force two. They confessed to perpetuating a complex and massive fraud for claims. How do you and your agents ever encountered anyone as complex the fraudulent . Ill never work another case like this in my career. But another sinister detail was about to unfold. Family and friends were only finding out about the fraud over early morning coffee, marthas best Friend Debbie was reading her newspaper. Im thinking to myself, this cannot be true. This cannot be true. So i start yelling at the top of my lungs. Jim get up you have to see this. Debbies husband, jim, is an army veteran. They couldnt believe what they were reading. Fooled the federal government, stealing money from the veterans. Was It Money that mattered . No it was the fact that they got it out of a veterans pockets that need it. That is that just sticks and my that hurts. It must be something to know that this woman who was your Best Friend hid herself from you and conned you all these years. Absolutely. She took me four complete sucker. Chuck to. He would go and present the flags to the widow of a veteran who had lost his life. That is cruel. The people that he took in under that do not deserve that. And it wasnt long before sean and jen were reading online and disbelief about shawns own mother Martha Ann caught in and outrageous fraud with chalk. We found out the day after that they were arrested on eight federal indictments. Thats how you found . Out thats how we found. Out major hard stop. Very overwhelming. Martha ann stole her dead husbands valor. She never says shared a single day in any armed services. She assumed bobs Purple Heart and told these veterans groups that that was her Purple Heart that she received in 9 11, pentagon attack. By early 2013, Martha Ann were sentenced chuck has 30 months federal, and Martha Ann got 20. They spent most of their ill gotten gains, of course. So before her prison sentence, Martha Ann decided to sell the house for restitution. She started boxing up all of her belongings and selling things. Closing up the house. But Martha Ann was a notorious pack rat. She had kept everything. Trunks full of clothes, thousands of pages of receipts, contracts, documents. So what did she do . She gave them to her son shawn and his Wife Jen for safekeeping. She asked me to do something, i will do. It in a way, i suppose, if she gave things to you then the feds, or the other investigative agencies, wouldnt have access to. Them well yes. But when those boxes of records arrived, sean and jen dived and Ravenous Lee to see what they could uncover. Who keeps all of those documents . 30,000. That must have been some job going through all of this stuff. It was overwhelming. It was. I did feel conflicted about digging into my moms affairs. But i had to know the truth. Then, shawn turned on one of the computers his mom had sent for safekeeping. He intended their kids to use it, so he wanted to make sure it was clean. He checked the Trash Bin and could not believe what he saw. There were photos of my stepdad, bob, deceased. Dead. Dead. There are many photos in their. There were photos of Bob Mcclancy lying dead in his recliner in 2006. But it was it like to see those pictures . Disturbing. Here where the pictures that told an entirely different story to what shawn and jen. You one picture, bob would have a pistol, and in another picture he would have a bottle of pills in the other. And another picture, bob would have a bottle of pills and nothing in the other. Hand it was odd how he was in the chair. The way his leg was placed, looking back at, that you could tell that that was body manipulation. The pictures didnt appear to be Police Photos because they were all apparently taken before any police arrived on the scene. So you called the . Cops right away. Shawn, conflicted, was suddenly faced with the prospect that he may be implicating his own mom. Torn, he called nate, the va investigator, and begin to tell him all about Bob Mcclancys death in 2006. He said i want to talk to you about this and get it off my chest. If there is nothing to, but great, but i think it needs to be investigated. It was a pulling string. Yes. And now the String Lead back in time, six years back. To that business all afternoon in the tennessee hills when chuck called 911 to report a suicide. It was part of a very complex, evil scheme. That was the sense that i got when i first saw the photographs. So maybe this was not after all just a Fraud Case. Maybe, he thought, someone had gotten away with murder. Coming up, the old suspicions about chuck. What had happened to the investigation all those years ago . It was devastating. I felt guilty. Like you blown it . Yes. When dateline continues. When dateline continues [ ] if youre only using facial moisturizer in the morning, did you know, the best time for Skin Renewal is at night . Olay retinol24 renews millions of Surface Skin cells while you sleep. Wake up to smoother, youngerlooking skin with olay retinol24. Get ready. Its time for the Savings Event of the year. 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I need learned that there had been investigation into Bob Mcclancys death six years earlier. Remember the Detective Jones . I just walked into the residence. It is the mcclancy residents. The mr. Mcclancy appears to be expired. What that avoiding cpr on his best. Friend and was staging that perhaps too convenient, Do Not Resuscitate order. It turned out that the detective had good reason to want to question chalk. After he discovered a Digital Camera Inside of a backpack. Who found the camera . I did. Did you assume anything about its ownership, or anything like . That i just assume that it belonged to the residents, the mcclancy. Did you think that as you are opening it up, maybe i should be doing . This it didnt cross my mind at the time. It was standard practice. On the assumption that it you needed to have a did not see need a Search Warrant for that Guys Camera . Yeah. On the camera where pictures of the deceased, Bob Mcclancy. His body positioned differently than the way the police found him. They were the same pictures sean later found on the computer, some showing Bob Mcclancy holding a revolver, others the revolver and the Pill Bottle. Where did you think when you saw that . That we had a staged scene. A staged scene, so maybe of a crime . Yes. Thats when the detective decided to question. Chuck we took him down to the Sheriffs Office. The Sheriffs Office confronted with the photo evidence, chucks story changed dramatically. His first statement to the police had been that he arrived at the house after bob died and called 911. Now, he said, when he arrived, Bob Wasnt quite dead. But was taking his last gasps. He had come home, found mr. Mcclancy said he was still alive. He was barely breathing. Chuck said he was the one who staged the scene and took the photos because he didnt know bob was going to die. And hoped that photos of his Friends Suffering could leverage better benefits from the va. Did you think that he couldve killed his friend . Bob i thought was possible. At the time, Detective Jones believe that he had at least a case of negligence. The negligence cause death, that was the evidence we had at the time. If you had moved quicker or called 911 sooner, or try to do cpr or something, he wouldve been alive . He wouldve died before he called 911. Chuck was charged with tempering with evidence and criminal negligence. So it seemed like you had him then. Thats what we thought. But thats not what happened. Before the case could go to trial, a judge ruled the photos taken by chuck were not admissible in the court of law. Why . The camera belonged to chuck, not bob. And Detective Jones had gathered the photos without a Search Warrant. The case against Chuck Kaczmarczyk collapsed. Go back to the, time when you got that ruling, and was basically thrown, out you werent going to get that case at all, what was that like . It was devastating. Did you feel as if you were responsible . I did. I felt guilty about. It like you blown . It. Yes six years later, in 2012, chuck was a convicted con man. Investigator nate was looking at the very same images on the computer. I knew that the local Sheriffs Department had some suspicions that chuck had done something but werent able to substantiate anything through charges being able to stick. But the nate, Maybe Chuck was up to his lying eyeballs and mcclancys death. It gave you the Sense Of, whoever said set this up and whoever took these pictures was very evil. Chuck had taken the pictures. But what were they doing on the Computer Shawn got from his mother, Martha Ann . Then, nate and the State Investigators who joined him, they came up with the plan. Theyd put sean and jen on the spot. They would get sean to spy on his mom. Shawn was about to become an undercover agent. Coming up whats it like to phone your mother knowing that you are going to be putting her on paper . 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He knew it was a, your life was not going to be as pleasant for a period of time. What did you think when you saw her treating sean that way . It made me angry. Even so, shawn tried to stay loyal to his mom. But now, he was about to go against her in the way he had never imagined. He had seen the photos of dead bobsled, Body Contact and the agent, and now him engine were turning up things for the investigation. We were coming across all these what we would call crazy, crazy documents. We couldnt wrap our brain around them. One of those documents was bob my clients is well. Bob hedman married before he had married Martha Ann he hadnt seen his daughter in a long time. He wanted nothing to do with her. I dont want you to know better death. I am leaving you 1 of my estate. The warning seemed especially harsh. I didnt know Bob Mcclancy. Most fathers were not write something that cruel to their own daughter. I just realized, this is not adding up. It just was very, very suspicious. Bob Sister Kathy thought it was fishy as well. I know wasnt bobbies well. Even said that to my daughters. Uncle bobby would never put that in here. No, never. Nate concluded that marks The End, the sole Beneficiary Headphone forge the whale. It came from Martha Ann . Yes, the will in particular ended up being a major part of the investigation. And then, they discovered a curious date or dates. Martha ends wedding to chuck. If you wait until after you turn 57 and remarried then, you can keep the benefits for the rest of your life. She ended up marrying chuck in Las Vegas nevada one day after her 57th birthday, which allowed her to keep the Ba Benefits associated with bob, for the rest of her life. Martha ann used the same formula to gain her social insurance benefits from her ex husband. There were certain issues that she could not marry prior to her 60th birthday. A little advancing. Yes, they soon got married earlier again. Three days to the date after the first marriage. They had essentially to marriage states. Was so much compelling evidence against Martha Ann and chuck, they figured it was more than a coincidence that Martha Ann had married the man who was most likely to be with her husband bob. If chuck had murdered bob, and Martha Ann had very chuck just five months after Bobs Death must have known something. We never really believe she could be capable of killing bob. Just, who would do such a thing . Well, and we knew chuck was the last person with bob. So we really didnt think martha was the one that had killed bob. I think we both believed that it was chuck. But, they wanted to be sure. If there was a Murder Conspiracy, maybe a son could find out from his mother. They decided to recruit sean, get him to wear a wire, plus a call to his Mother Martha and. And ask her what she knew about the photos. Shown agreed. So, he was willing to make a Phone Call and we gave him a recording device. Whats it like to phone your mother knowing that you are going to be putting her on the spot that way on tape with Somebody Listening . Well, it had to be done. Were you nervous . I was nervous but at the same time, youve got an ill. You have to know. Shawns Wife Jen was listening as The Call began. We talked for about 45 minutes to one hour. He is like, hey mom, the kids were on the computer over the weekend, when i got in the trash i found like over 100 photographs in there of bob dead. I asked her why the pictures were there. And she said, photos of bob . She started saying, i think those are phillies police showed photos, shawn. He said mom, these photos are not Police Photos. He has a Pill Bottle and pistol, and then they are not there. Her idea of that was to say shawn, delete those photographs. That was what we were looking for. What do you think when you got of the Phone Call . Did you think, this woman was part of it . I really started thinking that she is guilty. She has more of a role in Bobs Death, then she put on. Nate agreed, and with this suspicious well, the wedding dates in the photos of Bobs Death scene, nate and his investigated believed they were dealing with the conspiracy, that bob had not killed himself with an overdose of antidepressants, but had been deliberately poisoned. As they confronted their two suspects, one of them was about to sing like a canary. Coming up, it was chucks idea, he did it. A dramatic courtroom showdown, Chuck Versus Martha end. Did you kill your husband . No sir, i did not. When dateline continues. N dateline continues namaste. Surprise parties. Aww, You Guys. Dupixent helps prevent asthma attacks. For 3 . So i can du more of the things i love. Dupixent is not for sudden breathing problems. Its an addontreatment for specific types of Moderatetosevere Asthma that can improve Lung Function for better breathing in as little as two weeks. And can reduce, or even eliminate, oral steroids. 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Nate was pretty sure the one finally telling the truth was chuck. We didnt suspect it anymore, now we know. In november 2015, in madison ville tennessee, martha and My Clancy went on Trial Mcclancy went on trial. She was charged with conspiracy to commit first degree murder. Matthew rogers was there to defend ann conspiring with her lumberjack, to make Bobs Death look like a suicide. Then, stealing bobs benefits. The guilty verdict could mean the death penalty. But Martha Ann was fully able to defend herself with an absolute bait blanket denial. She maintained her innocence from the very beginning. She made it very clear that she wanted to speak with the jury, and to tell her side of the story. There were no cameras in the courtroom, but microphones were allowed. Bob was the love of my life. I couldnt have imagined losing him. And i didnt want to lose him, i didnt want to be without him. And besides, she testified, she didnt need to kill her husband. Foresees allegations that, we you and chuck were in some sort of financial issues . No sir, absolutely not. I had my own money. I had my own funds. To this day, would you be better off with Bob Mcclancy still being around. Martha Ann Mcclancy did not benefit from mcclancy being dead. She would have his military benefits where theyre he was alive or dead. Chuck played Martha Ann like a fiddle. Mrs. Mcclancy was snowed by mr. Kaczmarczyks calm just as the government had been and numerous occasions in the past. Mrs. Mcclancy was another victim of mr. Kaczmarczyk. He had never indicated to me in any way that he had lied about what he had done in the military, about one he had received. I thought he had all these awards. Lying chuck . Said attorney rodgers, he would say anything to avoid the blame. What did chuck not lie about. He is a habitual liar. That is proven and documented. I was in a position to attack his credibility, that was very hard. It was chuck who forged bobs, Wilson Martha and. She went along with it because of the content of the whale was what bob wanted. That was initially chucks idea . It was chucks idea, he did it. You acknowledged they had gone along with that. I did go along with it. She had no idea, she said, that chuck was planning to take those awful pictures. And one question about the flashy Government Job she told Bob Sister kathy about in Washington D. C. , martha and simply scoffed and said it was a joke. I mean, it was just a hoax thats all in the world that was. It was a hoax to, more or less, get her to stop bugging me. Attorney rodgers took martha and back to the Day Bob died and a normal day, she said. You want to work that . They yes sir, i want to work that they. She didnt have a clue that anything was wrong, she testified, until she arrived home after 6 pm. A young detective came in and to hold my hand and he said this is going to be the most difficult thing here. She said, your husband has passed away. Conspiracy with chap . Of course not, she said. Did you uncheck ever have a conversation about getting rid of your husband . No. We did not. I dont know where he has come up with this. The first time she heard about a Murder Conspiracy was after she told chuck she wanted to divorce him, in 2012. I didnt know about it until much later on when this wild concocted story of having murdered my husband was told for the first time. It was told by chuck has more sick. Did you kill your husband . No sir, i did not. I did not kill Bob Mcclancy i had nothing to do with killing Bob Mcclancy. I cannot tell you anything more than what i know that he died of a drug overdose. And that was Martha Anns story, every ward of it was true, she swore. If Martha Ann believes her husband was murdered, she would stay it wished Chuck Kaczmarczyk. He was there with Bob Mcclancy when he died. He was the one who took photographs of mr. Mcclancy, and manipulated the crime of the Death Weather was a Crime Scene or not. But, battle of the Corn Artist was just getting started. And the prosecutors believed they had a strong case. What was the most important piece of evidence in your view . The most important piece of evidence, of course, was the confession taken from Chuck Kaczmarczyk. And what a darkened ev a story of Murder Chuck was about to tell. Coming up, he had said we will make it look as natural as possible. Powerful testimony from The Star witness, and from a reluctant son. She looked at me as if she wished i was dead. When dateline continues. When dateline continues and Bob And Chuck was her accomplice. Match made in. Hell they wanted money. Close to 1 million. The hand her husband died in stages, thinking he was losing his mind because you keep overdosing with these drugs until you get to the fatal dose. And its hard to comprehend how some people can be that evil. How would the Jury Judge Martha . And he was out for quite awhile. Yes, scared is badly. We didnt know whether we had won or lost. Sean and debbie, and kathy, they were all in court, nervous. Hearts racing. I have waited ten years and i was just trying to hold myself together. Then it came. We the jury, find the defendant Martha Ann mcclelland c, not guilty of defense in first degree murder. Not guilty. A wave of disappointment washed through the room. I wish she wouldve gotten the death penalty, both her and chuck. The jury was unfinished. We the jury Martha Ann was guilty of conspiracy to murder. Im glad justice was served, i still thought, why did you have to kill him . Do you think they got it riGht That she was the one primarily responsible . Yes. She was the real can ive or. Chuck had already made hays deal, he had already pleaded guilty to Murder Conspiracy and got 25 years in prison. Does chucks sentence make sense to you . He did conspire and his sister in this. He was necessary to be able to prove the case against her. When you look at that, it makes sense. In june 2016, when it was martha ends turn to receive her sentence, she clung to a walker, faking disability again . Thats with the prosecutors believe and then the judge tore into her. The slow poisoning, and slipping of life from an individuals exceptionally heinous. He gave her the max, 50 years. And although that was halved on Appeal Martha and may serve the rest of her life in prison. I am a firm believer that caramel will get you. I think its got her. Ex best Friend Debbie, was relieved. Absolutely the epitome of evil. She was the meanest, cruelest, and she didnt get away with it. That made me feel a little bit better about it. And for the detective who believe nearly ten years earlier that chuck was guilty, it was vindication. The fact of the matter is, if you are not with the camera and open up those photographs, we would be sitting here talking today. No. And Justice Wouldve never gotten served for the plaintiffs family. So, it came out all right after all . It did. It took a while, but it did. Yes, it did. No small thanks to martha ands son, sean. No child should ever have to testify against the parent. That was the hardest thing you ever did . That was the hardest thing. And he hasnt been the same since finding out about his moms monstrous crimes. I think he had a lot of trouble wrapping his head around it, and believing that she was capable of this. Bob was a man of right. He was a detective, he was a marine. He would fight for justice for strangers, and there was no way that he was going to go down like that and be silenced that way. But, there was one more piece of unfinished business. Sean, remember, was adopted. I had always been told that i would never find out where i was actually from. Or who my birth parents would be. Even after a Florida Court denied him access to his adoption records, it was determined to find his birth parents. He ended up getting in tension with ancestry dna. What do you know . We basically hit the bullseye, immediately. Wow. Which is crazy. They found his birth father, living in maine. It feels amazing, overwhelming. Not long after for speaking with his birth father, shawn traveled to meet him. They now chat regularly on the phone. And as they plan to see Each Other more often, shawn is discovering a whole new life. How new future. This Sunday President bidens vaccine mandate plan. This is not about freedom or personal choice. With cases rising. Folks, our Hospital Situation has never been more dire in my lifetime than it is right now. The president announces sweeping mandates to get americans vaccinated. Were going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated coworkers. Calling out politicians and others for resisting vaccines. Weve been patience. Our patience is wearing thing and your refusal has cost all of us. Republicans push back. What the biden administration