Week before a rally in support of a January 6th rioters, the exact type of Extremist Bush is talking about, is it already too late to save the soul of the Republican Party . Well have that conversation, coming right up. Plus a democratic showdown over the Reconciliation Bill plays out on the morning shows. Okay. Its absolutely not acceptable to me. I dont think its acceptable to the president , to the american people, where the overwhelming majority of the people and the democratic caucus. Im going to speak to representative judy chu. And were going to get the latest from the campaign trail, and ill speak with gray davis. Later this hour, a very special guest, a Tennessee Teen who had to endure this ugliness. This time last year my grandmother, who was a former teacher at the Rutherford County School system died of covid because Someone Wasnt wearing a mask. This is a very this is a very shut up. Grady knox will join me live. He was shamefully laughed all, and while arguing for masks, by shares his grandmothers death, and his remarkable story and how he got the last laugh at those who targeted him. Coming just days before a rally in support of the January 6th rioters, former president george w. Bush, made some of his strongest comments yet condemning domestic terrorism yet. He isnt the only republican calling out the extremism. Former new Jersey Governor and president ial candidate, Chris Christie this week told republicans, face the realities of Trumps Loss and discredit the extremists. Tim miller, writer at large, and juanita tolliver, both are msnbc political analysts. Tim, let me just start with you, and ask you about george w. Bushs speech yesterday, and the timing of it. What was your reaction . Look, i think he has been picking and choosing his spots carefully in the postpresidency. Statements like this arent an accident. Obviously i wish that President Bush would have been speaking out more loudly between November 3rd and January 6th, even before that for that matter, but throughout his postpresidency, when he does go out and give speeches, you obvious can see in the undertones direct attacks to the way that former President Trump did his job. I think the fact hes out there speaking and trying to draw this line, that its not an equivalence, but its on a line with the terrorists who attacked u. S. On september 11th, and those who attacked the capitol on January 6th, and hopefully that breaks through with a percentage of those who supported him twice. Maybe not exactly the timing i would have wanted, but better than nothing. I think its important that people like him are out there saying, where theres at least a chance that some of the Target Audience might be listening. So thats my question, juanita, too you, which is what is the likelihood that the quote unquote Target Audience, as tim just put it, will listen, considering the Messages Broadband delivered from the Likes Service President george w. Bush, and Chris Christie. I think the Target Audience are the people who already took the offramp. Im not sure Theres Anyone less that was avid supporters of bush that could potentially be turned away from trump, if they already havent. I appreciate him saying what was happening all these other times right after the election. Right when trump was riling up his base. Where were you then . Where were other republicans then . Thats why im hesitant to say this will have any impact whatsoever with the Audience Bush was speaking to. I also think that one speech here, one comment here, is too little too late to have a massive impact. This is not something you can edit undo. Lets be real, trumps lies have been fatal lies. Not only on January 6th, but in this pandemic. It may be too late, but what what could happen. You think about the rally that a Trump Operative is planning for saturday that will honor, i guess, in a way the insurrectionists. You think about other things that are planned in the future, and what could featsably come from them. Hearing from representative Adam Kinzinger earlier commenting on bushs remarks. This is why its important we, as republicans, frankly, as americans stand up and say we shouldnt be truly worried for the teeth of government every few months when theres a protest. I have a lot of faith in our law enforcement. Hopefully well find out more this week. We know, juanita, where he stands, we have known for quite some time. What about other folks . Will it take other folks to come out against the likes of former President Trump and all that hes inspired, to what may come next weekend to speak out and say, no, enough is enough. Its not just on folks like Adam Kinzinger, who we know have been against Donald Trump from the jump. I completely agree, yasmin, it will take other folks, but again folks who were likely previously fully on board with trump who have tipped the other way. Those fighting hard for trump while he was in office and facing impeachment, and now are willing to turn away. Thats not kinzinger and thats not former President Bush. In a dream scenario, if somebody like Representative Mccarthy or Senator Mcconnell actually steps their foot down and says its time to move away from him, hes costing us lives. The problem is they put their foot down directly after January 6th, and then changed their tunes months later, as both have subsequently done. Tim, i want to get your reaction to some of the new polls we are seeing, when it comes to the base that Donald Trump has. New Cnn Poll out. The gop has a better chance of winning in 2024 if in Fact Trump is the nominee, 51 saying yes, si 49 saying no. I think theres a lot of delusion out there and Wishful Thinking that trump just couldnt come back, The Beast has been slayed, and all of this is just for his ego and were going to move forward. Thats not how republican voters see it. The numbers absolutely swamp everyone else in the republican field. Whether i see the Chris Christie quote, which is all fine and good, as someone carrying trumps water and more for the last five years, he gives a speech in California And Kind of tacitly criticizes him, im getting ptsd from 2015. We lived through all of this. Hes winning the polls. The republicans maybe theyll wish to maggie haberman, and its groundhog day. I was part of that, that we made. We have to learn from at least mistakes and take him on directly, or else were going to be right back where we are in 2016 and 2020, with trump as the Rep Nominee in 2023. Who knows, in a bad economic environment, theres some outside event that happens, he could absolutely win again. Thats a very, very real possibility, looking at the numbers. A lot of people are trying to pretend its not the case, because its uncomfortable to think about. What more needs to be done in your estimation, tim . Among republicans . They need to get behind somebody. If youre mike pence, or they need to go at him. If Chris Christie wants to be rid of the conspiracy theorists, he needs to throw a bunch. Hes done it to rubio, to random people heckling him. Why is he afraid to thrown a punch at trump . If they want to beat Donald Trump and have him not be the nominee in 2024, the rest of the republican parties needs to actually engage in a campaign to beat him, not just wish he goes around. I think the democrats obviously have less control over this, but i think it is wise when thinking of political strategy as a doesnt right now, to think about it with context of, for every little bit that our party being less popular, that makes it more likely that the man who tried to steal the last election is president again in 2024. So the stakes are maybe a bit higher than they would have been when thinking Campaign Strategy ten years ago, 15 years ago. Juanita, final yes to you. How are you thinking about this whole debate over vaccine mandates that the president just delivered this past week, and how democrats can get an edge on it . I think it comes down to the outcomes. Biden is doing this, knowing he pass the support of federal precedent, but also the support of many americans, considering 75 have already had the shot. Hes saying i did this to get the republican governors ignoring Safety Protocols and endangers lives. I got them out of the way so i can save the health of this country. He took a Big Bet here, but a lot is on his side. Hopefully it pays off. This is going to be something i think almost important for democrats to herald going into the midterm as well. If more lives are saved, more shots in arms are delivered, folks are able to finally get back to normal, then the president will be able to quite et these republican govern owes, and can say, whether you liked it, it actually worked. Thank you both for joining me. California Governor Gavin Newsom and is the democrats are going full tilt. After a break, well hear from the last California Governor to be recalled, gray davis, about newsoms chances and his concerns. Later on this hour, i will joined by the Tennessee Student mocked while making a plea for masks in school. Le making a pler masks in school. Fine, well sleep here. Its the easiest because its the cheesiest. Kraft. For the win win. 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Received a male ballot, so white its a lot of variables out there. I think he wants to run up the numbers so they claims to have a mandate. And just how unusual this selection is. Its also i dont think anybody can Say Anything is certain. The whole scenario has been upended. A couple cycles always reps voted early and democrats on election day, and with President Trump talking about mailin ballots being rigged, republicans are reluctant to send in their ballots. I think theyre expecting a large Inperson Vote on tuesday, which will decrease some of the margins we have seen already. Without any we implores you to join us in this fight demanding a Special Session to investigate and Amile Yorrate the twisted result of this recall election. Again, the results arent even in, you already have Larry Elder calling foul. Right. You also have President Trump, who was asked about this in an interview, he basically said the same thing. Newt gingrich said it more than a couple weeks ago. The groundwork is being laid. I think you know, they are laying the groundwork for this. Margin wasnt necessarily close, but the former president still called foul on that. Thanks as always, good to talk with you. I want to turn to someone who is familiar family with a california recall election. To all of you, and to the people of california, for the privilege and the honor of representing 35 Million people the last five years, and the opportunity to serve you and in my own way try to make life better. Tonight, the people did decide it is time for someone else to serve, and i accept their judgment. Should with me now, former governor gray davis, who lost his recall and was replaced by arnold schwarzenegger. Thank you so much for joining us. We do appreciate it. My pleasure. I guess my first question is, what was it like, i guess, to be recalled, and do you at all think that Governor Newsom could be facing the same fate . Its not fun to be recall. I wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy, but i dont expect nothing close to that will happen to Governor Newsom. Ive been saying i think he will win five and eight points above the 50 he needs. What do you blame for your recall . Do you blame democratic apathy . Do you think that the democratic party has in fact learned their lesson this time around . What do you think attributed to that . I dont know where to start. Three substantial differences. Arnold schwarzenegger is not running. Arnold schwarzenegger was a megastar in 2003, worldwide tour, promoting conscious terminator 3. The film opened in july. He announced in august. The elect was october 6th. There are 5 Million more Democrats Today in california than in 2003. Thats a big help to Governor Newsom. , to get rid of all kinds of vaccination sites. He used used the place used the Oakland Coliseum up north, so all of those are in Gavin Newsoms favor. Plus, though the economy is going through a difficult time, 80 Billion in Surplus Money came into our coffers. Thats being used to pay all the Back Rent and help businesses revive and getting up and running. We were in a recession, so this is a totally different situation. I expect and a great credit to the Gavin Newsom campaign. They had to do two things awaken democrats to the fact that there was an election at an usual time, september 14th, and that it was very consequential. Former President Trump talking to newsmax already claiming that this election is rigged, right, ahead of any results. Larry elder, as i just mentioned in my last interview, taking a page out of that book as well. How much do you think, governor, in your state, california, the words of the former president resonates with voters . Let me just cite the Election Results in november 2020. You said it wasnt close. Trump got more votes in california than any other state, but he still lost 62 to 38. That is a shellacking. Trump has no real support in california. This is just a big lie. Obviously so Larry Elder is just taking a page out of Trumps Playbook and its not going to work in california. Former California Governor gray davis, thank you as always. Good to see you. Up next, everybody. Could turnabout be fair play, as awful as the Texas Abortion Law is, it could open other states to target abortion, say like democrats in new York Targeting guns. Were talking about a possiblE Strategy there, next. E talking E Strategy there, next k you choos. Try boost glucose control. Its clinically shown to help manage Blood Sugar levels and contains high Quality Protein to help manage Hunger And Support muscle health. Try boost today. When you have nausea, heartburn, ingestion, upset stomach. Diarrheaaaa. Pepto bismol coats your stomach with fast and soothing relief. And try new drug free pepto herbal blends. Made from 100 natural ginger and peppermint. 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You where i about this consider New York, where the legislature favors restrictions on the second amendment. Could it outlaw firearms by depend advertising any New Yorker to file million Dollar Lawsuits against Gun Owners in the state . Would it allow New York to avoid responsibility for ignoring the right of the people to bear arms, despite clear supreme Court Precedent . The idea is not farfetched how likely is it, though, david, that you think something like this could actually happen . I dont know how likely it is. I know that the Washington Post has reported that other states with antiabortion majorities in their State Legislatures senior thinking about following in texas footsteps. I Cant Think of another scenario where they were put the Supreme Court out of the business and and liberals wouldnt say, hey, we can play this game, too. Listen if these conservative states are saying, okay, were going to try to ban abortion after six weeks, figure out the loopholes, i guess, then why not states like New York, for instance, as you laid out . I guess, my wonder is the potential pushback. You already have the doj suing texas over this law, that will likely rise to the Supreme Court, according to joyce vance, who i spoke with yesterday. It seems like a lot more headache in something thats not likely to last. It could last long enough. Republicans want to stop abortions, because they think each individual life is worth saving. If democrats think each individual life is worth saving and that i why Gun Control is important, why wouldnt they take the opportunity to take guns off the streets of New York . You talk about some red flags ahead, right . In speaking of conservatives that are employs the type of Texas Law that were seeing in other states. What are some other major red flags, some issues are worried about . One way, in abortion rights, but theres, for instance, a right to free speech in the california constitution. So kind of, in summing all of this up, im trying to understand what it is were trying to get to, which is is this going to come down to the Supreme Court making a decision based on the constitutionality of the Texas Law, in order to say, no, to other conservative states that will try to apply this loophole, this vigilante kind of provision to their laws . Thats whats going to have to happen. Im not so sure that the justice departments large will work. I think what has to happen in texas, for the Supreme Court to rule on the merits, is for there to be actually a lawsuit against somebody who aids or abets an abortion. Until that happens got it. Abortion are effectively banned in texas. New york could effectively ban guns until theres a lawsuit over an individual owning a gun. Got it. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. 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Join by representative chu, democrat from california, Senator Joe Manchin being pretty out front there, pretty forthright about where hes at when it comes to this Reconciliation Bill. Im not sure that many democrats in washington were very surprised about Manchins Stance on this. Would you be willing to negotiate down to 1. 5 trillion, the number hes floated out there . Let me say the needs of the american people are far too great to go that low. We have been devastated by the pandemic people need Child Care, they need Health Care, they need jobs. We need to help businesses open back up. Remember where we came from, we actually originally wanted to have a 6 Trillion bill. Now were compromised down to 3. 5 trillion. We need to make sure that we have Working Families needs met. Infrastructure is more than building roads and highways. Get the Child Care, the paid Family Leave and the Health Care they need to actually go to work. We need to engage in a dilog. You know, i would like to certainly ask Joe Manchin, which of these things do you think people dont need . Which things do you think are not vital . These two bills go together. It seems to me, from what we have heard from Joe Manchin so far today, and his oped a couple weeks ago, he feels as if american people are still taken care of from the rescue plan, theres some layover from that, but i would like to know the answer, what is it that he thinking needs to be taken out of this. Heres earlier today. Of all the experts, what theyre talking about now is around a 3. 5 trillion program. Now, i dont know that you get to that number when you start going through each category. There may be more and may be less in order to do what the president would like to have done. So i think what we have to do is just focus on the programs that need to get done. Congresswoman, so what needs to be done here, right . It seems as if, in a way, Joe Manchin will hold the infrastructure bill, the Reconciliation Bill in somewhat of a Hostage Situation going forward i know where you are in the filibuster. It has to be done away with, but who do you need to do that, and even the president so far has come out against well, i still ask, what would you eliminate . What do you think the people dont need . First of all, obviously we need jobs. We also need to combat climate change, which we can do, and then provide those jobs. In fact, we have a number of things in this bill that the make sure our Carbon Emissions are redoused by 15 by 2030, with all kinds of incentives. We need tax cuts, that means make sure the Child Care Tax Credit is pinch inept, the earned Income Tack Credit can benefit more people, and theres a Tax Credit to help people, paid for the Child Care they so desperately need. Then theres the lower costs that come with having a Child Care benefit, which says that it will cost a bit more than 7 of their income, as well as cutting the costs of prescription drugs, and providing seniors with hearing, Vision And Dent at coverage through medicare. Thats not even to mention paid family and medical leave, which people need to have Peace Of Mind in order to work. So i would say all those things are essential. Representative judy chu, thank you for joining us this afternoon. We appreciate it. While sharing a Person Story of loss from dough individual and making a plea for Mask Mandates, a Tennessee Student was mocked and laughed at. This is a very these a very shut up. That student joins me ahead, to share his story, uninterrupted. Well be right back. Ry, uninterrupted. ll be right back. This is a gam, who dares to be fearless even when her bladder leaks. Our softest, smoothest fabric keeping her comfortable, protected, and undeniably sleek. Depend. 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This time last year, my grandmother, who was a former teacher at the Rutherford County School system, died of covid because Someone Wasnt wearing a mask. This is a very no. This is a very shut up this is a still listening. Shut up. Hey, guys, were here to act professional. Please, sir, go ahead. Thank you. This is an avoidable issue. And by not wearing masks in schools, its irresponsible. Wow, Grady Knox, student at Rutherford County School in tennessee joining me now. Thank you for joining us. What courage it took you to stan up there with your mask on knowing there were some people who didnt want that to happen, a Mask Mandate. Thank you for having me. First i want yeah. I want to give you a moment to talk about your grandmother, and what happened. So my grandmother had been living in a like a retirement type community. And we had minimal contact with you, you know, just giving her groceries so she could stay safe. At one point there was guests over and one of them Graduate Covid in. We feel like if they had been wearing masks better, then we could have probably avoided the issue. What was it like when you stood up there at the School Board Meeting to tell your truth, to advocate for wearing masks in your school and you heard people laughing and yelling at you and saying Sit Down . Well, i knew going up that people were going to disagree with me, because, i mean, there is wherein there was a School Board Meeting. There were going to be people that disagreed. I figured that if anything, that would be the one time when people would hear me out, you know, because it is about my grandmother, its not about what i personably personably personally believe. I feel like just that happening, it kind of left me shaken. But i knew that i had to stay with it and keep talking to get my message across to everyone. Did anybody Say Anything to you afterwards, grady . I a lot of the people that were in support of masks came up to me right afterwards and told me, like, you know, good job. We cant believe that happened but we think that its really great what you were saying x. The Security Officers actually came and gave me a pat on the back. And you actually win at the end of the day, right . You won because they actually instituted Mask Mandates. So your words, the power of your words and you being there and the other people that were advocating for Mask Mandates won at the end of the day. How did that make you feel . It was so exciting. Because all of my friends started texting me. And they were like, grady, look what happened. We did it. Because woos really a group effort, i think. And just all of us were so excited together that we actually accomplished something in the school board. And it was just so powerful to feel that we actually are making a difference in our school system. Grady, just quickly, what is it like inside your classroom, with some wanting to wear masks, others not. Now there is a Mask Mandate in place but is there a division in your classroom amongst some students . I feel like there is not like no one makes Fun Of anyone. I know some schools have issues with bullying. That hasnt been an issue at my school. But there is definitely a great enough number of people not wearing masks that it would affect the people in the classroom just because there is so many people not wearing masks and sitting close to Each Other that its yeah, its kind of a big issue, especially with contact tracing. Lots of kids are out all the time, like half the class at some points. And there is no Virtual School in tennessee right now. So they are just at home without any instruction. And thats why i think masks are really important for us specifically, so that kids can stay in school and get the education that they deserve. Grady knox, keep using your voice. Were so sorry for the loss of your grand mother. But in a way, you are using her voice and yourself, and your familys and all the people that support you in speaking up and saying what you believe. So keep using that voice. It is so important. And keep wearing that bow tie, because you certainly know how to wear it. Grady knox, great to have you this afternoon. Good luck ahead, grady. Thank you so much. That wraps up the afternoon, everybody. Im yasmin vossoughian. I will see you next weekend. I am going to turn it over now to reverend Al Sharpton and politics nation. Good evening, and welcome to politics nation. Tonights lead, code red. We have got to listen to the