Of Pop Culture Nostalgia this week to give us all the feels. So, get comfy in your Thinking Chair and grab your handy dandy notebook. We will tell you all about it. From nbc News World Headquarters in New York, im Joshua Johnson. Welcome to the week. 20 years ago, at this hour, millions of americans turned on our Tv Screens and watched president george w. Bush address the nation. Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts. None of us will ever forget this day. Yet, we go forward to defend freedom and all that is good and just in our world. It has been a day of somber ceremonies across the country. Many of us remember 20 years ago not being able to stop watching the coverage. Maybe, you felt that way today. For some of us who lost friends, family, and neighbors, they never really looked away. Everyones got their own story from 9 11 and some of you shared your stories with us On Twitter. Mary beth wrote, thinking about getting back to normal. How it did, how it never did, and innocence shattered in an instant then and now. Mary beth makes a good point. Check out these two New York times covers. One from the morning of September 11th. The other, from the morning of september 12th. No wonder 9 11 feels like the day that everything changed. And since then, traumatic news has just seemed to accelerate, at least it does to me. The wars in afghanistan and iraq, hurricane katrina, the aftermath of the arab spring, an economic recession, pandemic, an insurrection. What have we learned about grief, as a nation . And how far have we really come over the past 20 years . Thats where we start with our Saturday Night panel. David lit is a New York times bestselling author and former obama speechwriter. Eugene daniels is White House reporter, coauthor of Politicos Playbook and an msnbc political contributor. And Aisha Roscoe covers the White House for npr news. Great to see all of you, and i would just love to get your thoughts on 9 11, where your head is at, what you did today, whats standing out to you at The End of this day . Just if you could sum it up for us, the three of us. David, let me start with you. Where is your head at tonight . Well, its its so hard to talk about because, you know, like so many people, 9 11 was a national tragedy. And then, we all have our personal story that goes with it. And i i was one of the lucky ones but i was a 10th Grader in new York City. Went to school on the upper east side. And i remember being in mr. Marchs 10th grade English Class and hearing that a Plane Hit the towers. I remember walking home across Central Park and seeing all that smoke. I remember smelling smoke in my bedroom where i grew up two days later. And you said something at the top of the program. I mean, it felt like that moment when everything changed. And i was surprised. I mean, you know, im a writer, technically. But i i felt really struggling to find the words today. I mean, i read some really moving pieces but its so hard because it it is this moment that continues to change us, and it continues to, you know, every year, its just reopens. Eugene, you wrote in Politico Playbook about seeing your father, an army major, unexpectedly in uniform when you got home from school that day. Yeah. You know, i came home from school. Itd been a strange day because we had also, you know, watched and heard and and watched all the news with our teachers. Um, and shoutout to all of the teachers and and folks in our lives who had to kind of shepherd us through those that day because thats who told us about that day. Thats who had to explain to all, you know, everyone who was young at that point um what was going on even though they had no idea what was going on. And, you know, i came home and my dad was home. Um, and he was so on vacation at the time he was so upset that he got dressed in time to go to work and they told him to go back home and spend some time with his family. But that was the day and i i was in ft. Hood, texas. Lived there. And all of the kids that i grew up with, they were all military brats, right . And when i when i end up going to high school, 90 of our high school, our parents were either in iraq, afghanistan, kuwait, somewhere in that region. Fighting wars that were that have been waged in this country. And i think, you know, that day, we all knew something had changed. We didnt know what it meant. You know, we were in middle school. But what we did know is our parents were leaving. And i think that is one of the things that sticks with me is just knowing that um not only our personal lives were changing. But the world was changing and thats what millennials all over the Country Today are thinking about is 20 years of our lives knowing that this world would would never be the same. Aisha, i wonder as we were just taking a look at the shot from Lower Manhattan at the national 9 11 Memorial And Museum of people around the two reflecting pools. On the footprint where the two towers once stood. And there, you see the Tribute In Light which is shining up. Can be seen for miles and miles around here in New York. If you have never been, i strongly encourage you to go on your next trip to New York. It is very somber, it is very sad. But it is an amazing museum. I went yesterday for the first time. Learned a ton about 9 11 and the hunt for Bin Laden that i did not know. Aisha, i wonder how you are processing 9 11 based on where you were then, where you are now, and the scope of everything thats happened since then . Yeah. Its such a a big question. I was in high school. When this happened, i remember, you know, someone saying, you know, a Plane Hit the towers. And then, you know, watching it in school. You know, Coming Home and all of the channels, mtv, all the nonnews channels were playing the news. And so, you couldnt get away from it. And i had, you know, my very close aunt, my beloved aunt was very close to she worked in, you know, New York. Very close to the towers. She got out, thank god um and made it home. But i remember talking to her that day um and worrying about her. And so, it it it is something that stuck with me. It was really it it in many ways, it was a loss of innocence. But because i was so young, i was able to tune it out. Not because i just didnt want it was just so sad. It was just so horrible, i was able, because i was young, i avoided 9 11 stuff because it was just it was just gut wrenching. And i just didnt want to face it. And i think in some ways, as a country, it was this unifying moment but we have to remember that there were all these people um muslims, people who were, you know, fought to be muslims on the street, who faced harassment. So in some ways, it wasnt as unifying as it maybe felt at the time. And today, i just wonder is there anything that could happen where you would even have a semblance of coming together . In this country. It seems like weve come so far that it seems like the coming together is not there. Yeah. I mean, and, aisha, that is a good point. I totally forgot what you mentioned with Like Mtv and Cbs News and then other channels were running Peter Jennings and like the today i remember that very vividly. I am also kind of taken that i am i just realizing that i might be the oldest oldest one in this group. I might have been the only one who was in college when the 9 11 attacks happened. I never thought i would be the grand, old man of the panel but here we are. But, aisha, i do take your point, though, in terms of what has happened since. David, we got a facebook comment. We got a lot of comments from Viewers Today with their thoughts. Herb writes thinking about the people on Flight 93. Thats the flight that crashed in shanksville, pennsylvania. The people on Flight 93 who rallied together and fought back minutes after finding out about the plot, they saved the capitol and 20 years later, an angry mob tried to destroy it. I will have more on the symbolism of the attack on the capitol later on. But, david, what about that . Just kind of the gulf that some people are feeling in terms of where we were and where we are . Its really sad. I mean, there is no other way to put it. I am thinking about, you know, Hearing Everyone else on this Panel Talk about their experiences. What i remember from that moment, also, was all the the missing posters. The missingperson posters that were all over the subway, all over new York City for a few months. And then, they started to trickle down. And, you know, The One after the other. And it was almost as those posters went away, our attention turned. And what should have been a a rallying moment and a a moment when we tried to exemplify the behavior of heroes like the firefighters who rushed into the towers. Or the passengers who stormed the cockpit in Flight 93. We much more quickly than i think we remember, we turned on Each Other. I mean, i remember i i i that same year was when i got into country music. And the Topcountry Hit was this song Have You Forgotten . It was either that year or the year after where the enemy, the the sort of villain was no longer, you know, the people who attacked us. It was, like, liberals who didnt want to support the war in iraq. And so, where we are living now, that moment where it seems like we are fighting Each Other instead of standing together. Unfortunately, that was a decision that so many of our leaders made to to exploit that tragedy and turn us against Each Other and we are still paying the price and its so sad. Eugene, i wonder how much we read into the nature of our country now, versus then . I have heard a lot of comparisons, and i totally understand them between how we are dealing with 9 11 versus, say, how we are dealing with covid. Part of me feels like 9 11 like thats the wrong comparison. Part of me feels like a better comparison to 9 11 is the murder of George Floyd because it was an event that we all watched, at the same time. Uncut. Raw. And we had the same view of what happened and as the trial went on, we had the same views of what happened. But that, to me, feels like more of a visceral comparison of something that was just, like, we all saw the same thing. We may interpret it differently but we Cant Lie to ourselves about what happened. So i dont know how to interpret where we are right now. It seems like there are still moments that sort of arrest the majority of the country to go, oh, okay, something just happened that we need to deal with. And i mean, i think thats true, right . There are moments that, like, grab our attention, especially during covid when we have all been stuck at home, right . The everything thats happened while weve been sort of still quarantining is one of those things that makes you pay attention and that is one of the reasons why we saw the uprising that we saw last year. Because people that i never thought would have been talking about racial injustice in this country were doing so. And i think the the difference is that we move on so quickly, right . Like, one of the things that is really important about 9 11 that we always talk about is never forgetting. But now, theres so much going on in this country, in this world that we and we have so much access to, right, that sometimes were numb to it. Right . There were days during covid where we lost the same number of people in a day that we lost on 9 11. We, as a country, kind of just moved quickly past those kinds of things. And that enormous amount of loss. And i do think, you know, as aisha was saying, this kind of loss of innocence of this country after 9 11, right . Like, there was this hopefulness that that was taken away um immediately from All Of Us. And thats continued until this day. And i could not imagine um even today, looking at twitter. I know twitters not real life, to be fair. Looking at twitter, there are still people having huge fights, huge fights about something that dont that does not matter. All types of crazy names. And its this day of all days, 20 years later when we are supposed to be thinking about all those people who died, thinking about the wars that started and, you know, our families who got sent over there. And here we are, still fighting. And i think that is the the perfect example of where this country is right now. Yeah. We have people in my family who fought in afghanistan multiple tours. So they are definitely on my mind tonight. And i do i have been thinking about that in terms of, like, what is happening . Werent we so hopeful . I still see reason for hope out of 9 11. I will talk about that later on in the program. But for now, everyone, stick around. We got to pause but we have got plenty more to discuss with yall. Coming up. Some Vaccinated Americans speaking of our fight against covid say they are fed up trying to convince the unvaccinated. What you should and should not say to those who have yet to get their shots. Plus, we asked whats on your Mind Today 20 years after 9 11. Timothy wrote feeling sad and reflective today. Trying to understand why this pandemic has not united us with a similar sense of collective purpose and resolve. I was never more proud to be an american than in the days and months that followed 9 11. Thank you, dr. Eklin, for sharing your thoughts. We will share more of your stories throughout the hour but first Richard Lui here with the headlines. Some of the stories we are watching for you at this hour. U. S. Capitol police concluded internal investigations into Officer Conduct on January 6th. In 38 cases, they found no evidence officers committed crimes. But they recommend disciplinary action for officers in six cases, mostly for conduct unbecoming. One additional case is still pending. The biden administration paused incoming flights of afghan evacuees. Four people who recently arrived near washington, d. C. Tested positive for the measles. The white House Press Secretary says those individuals are being quarantined and Fullcontact Tracing is underway. An unseated british Teenager Emma Raducanu defeated canadian Leylah Fernandez in straight sets to win the u. S. Open. 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We are back now with david lit, eugene daniels, and Aisha Roscoe. Aisha, first of all, let me start with you. I love that Howard Stern quote. It is like classic, cranky oldman energy. It is so perfectly Howard Stern. I love it. But i am interested in your sense of what the political impact of this might be, particularly because we have been hearing more from some republicans of that tone from Howard Stern, Including Jim justice who is the governor of West Virginia. He one of our columnists on msnbc daily, hayes brown, wrote for months, he has cajoled, nudged, and begged the people of West Virginia to get vaccinated to protect themselves and those around them but the message is just not getting through. If you have not heard that message, here is part of what the governor has said. For god sakes, the living, how difficult is this to understand . Why in the world do we have to come up with these crazy ideas and theyre crazy ideas that that that the vaccines got something in it and its tracing people wherever they go. And the same very people that are saying that are carrying their Cell Phones around. I mean, come on. Come on. Aisha, what is our sense of whether or not any of this messaging or these mandates are actually penetrating with the people who seem least likely to get vaccinated . Well, it seems like mandates could make the difference because at this point a lot of the carrots, as people like to say, have been tried. And so now, the government and private sectors coming out and they are using some sticks. And so, if your job is on the line, yes, the people who are most hardcore, antivaxers, theyre not going to Do It. They may be willing to give up their job but there are a lot of people who may be a little bit more on the fence who will say, okay, well, i dont want to lose my job. I will go ahead and get the vaccine um even if they believe things like it makes your arm magnetic or something, which is not true. But i think, at this point, we are really dealing with a crisis of public trust that cannot be fixed overnight. And we are also dealing with the limits of persuasion. So and and the problem is we dont have a lot of time to convince people. Trust can take months and years to build up. And i dont know that, as a country and as a world, we have months and years for people to figure out that they need to get vaccinated cause people are dying. Well, and, aisha, to your point, there are some people who are not being reached by conventional messages in The Press or from the president. David, there was a piece by Elizabeth Bruning in the atlantic where she wrote about her experience talking to her unvaccinated uncle about getting the shot and she reached the Cop Collusion that quote, the articles about all the unvaccinated dead arent persuading him. Theyre not even reaching him. Unquote. We have talked on this program about how shame just doesnt work when it comes to getting people vaccinated. How there are much better ways to go about it. But i would like to believe we are finally at the point where we get, you know, if beating somebody over the head with messages about people who died and regretted not getting the vaccine or shaming people for not doing it. If that hasnt worked now, it aint gonna work. Well, joshua, first of all, let me say im im jewish. Guilting people into doing stuff is in the arsenal. That works. See . No question, that works. Okay. Hey. If thats in your arsenal, shoot your shot. Im not going to tell you what to do. I dont know if my parents are watching but they will tell you it works. Um, however, it doesnt always work. And thats where the mandates come in, right . This is not about shame and its not about guilt. At a certain point, what this is about saying is you have got to just get your shot. And and you can be angry about it. And you can protest. And you can do all these different things. But the mandates are there so that we can stop having these conversations. Its the same as, you know, we dont we dont try to persuade people not to drive drunk. We have rules about driving drunk. You are just not allowed to Do It. At a certain point, persuasion as has been said, hits a limit and everyones safety is implicated here. Lots of people who cant get the shot are at risk, including kids. So thats what the mandate is for so then we have less shame. Thats great. Now, eugene, contrast what we heard from Howard Stern with what we heard this week from Joe Rogan who, i would argue, has a sphere of influence on par with Howard Steern just a different realm of the media. He is exclusive to spotify now. He is speaking out about his experience dealing with covid and using ivermectin to treat himself. And calling out cnn for its coverage of his story. Here is part of what he said. Bro, do i have to sue cnn . I dont know. Do you . They are making [ bleep ] up. They keep saying im taking horse dewormer. I literally got it from a doctor. Its an american company. Uhhuh. Its they won the Nobel Prize in 2015 for use in human beings. Yeah. And cnn is saying i am taking horse dewormer. Yeah. What so they must know thats thats a lie. Now, we should be clear, mr. Rogan has, himself, said that he took ivermectin. Ivermectin can be used in humans, but it is also used on a veterinary basis as an antiparasitic medication. So, he may not have gotten it from the feedsupply store but it is the same compound. Be that as it may, eugene, this feels like a Wholenew Level of crazy worrisome. Not even the Joe Rogan piece of it. But just the idea that we even know what ivermectin is right now. Yeah. I mean, whats really most important is that ivermectin has not been prescribed by the cdc, by the fda for covid19. So i dont know his doctor gave it to him. The Cdc Or Fda did not tell him to do that. Whats also really important for people to remember is if the people that made ivermectin really thought that it could they could give you make a lot of money which is, you know, Pharmaceutical Companies do this to to save peoples lives with covid19, theyd be doing that, right . The price would be going up. Theyd be telling that. The companies that made it said dont Do It, right . And so, what we have seen is this um continued, continued conspiracy theories, ideas about what should work. And whats interesting is people dont know whats in ivermectin, either, right . Like, there are people who are wanting to put ivermectin in their bodies who also say i dont know whats in the covid19 vaccine. The difference between the two is that for months and months and months, there has been a politicization of vaccines in a way that im still having, honestly, a hard time understanding considering probably everyone on this panel or most of the people watching, if not all, got vaccines to go to school, right . We all got vaccines. A lot of the people who are now saying they are antivax, they their kids got vaccines to be able to go to elementary school. And its one of those things about our our politics right now is that we cant see past anything. You were talking about shame earlier. I have talked to a lot of doctors. You know, throughout this year. And they say the thing that works the most is meeting people where they are, right . Shaming people, trying to tell them, you know, theyre dumb. That doesnt always work. It might work. Like david said, it might work with some folks but doesnt work with the vast majority of folks and these you know, this 25 of people who still havent gotten even One Shot yet, including some of my Family Members who i have been getting and cajoling. I have been, you know, successful for the most part. Right. People who have gotten vaccinated. The doctors. People they trust because not all of it is antivaxers. Some people, like, have jobs where they cant leave. Some people like my my youngest sibling was like i dont know how to go to cvs. Com so i did it for them, right . There is all this work that All Of Us have to do to make sure that people can get vaccinated so like, you know, Howard Stern said, he can go and play chess next door at Whoevers House he is talking about. And take pictures. He wants to play chess and take pictures and if you havent been vaccinated, you can go to planyourvaccine. Com. Vaccines. Gov. No one has to know you got vaccinated. Doesnt have to be political, unless you choose to make it political. Your doctor can Do It privately. Nobody has to know. Vaccines. Gov or planyourvaccine. Com. I am also fascinated, david, at what ever guilting powers your mother has. My mother does it with a look. She just has she will just give you one of these. I seen that. Yes. See . So you know. You know. David, eugene, aisha, stick around. We have got a little more to talk about. But first, stay tuned after the week for an Encore Presentation of memory box, echoes of 9 11. Its a Feature Documentary that tells the story of September 11th through never before seen personal recollections recorded in a Video Booth in the wake of 9 11. Next here on Msnbc And Streaming exclusively on peacock. When we come back, why some americans are taking a very different look back. Leaning into nostalgia like never before. Alice loves the scent of gain so much, she wished there was a way to make it last longer. 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You remember how when we were younger, we used to um run around and hang out with blue and find clues and talk to mr. Salt and freak out about the mail and do all this stuff. And one day, i was like oh hey, guess what . Big news, im leaving. We started out with clues. And now, its, what, Student Loans and um jobs and families. And some of it has been kind of hard. You know . After all these years, i never forgot you, ever. And im superglad were still friends. That is steve berns, the original host of the Nick Jr. Series blues clues. Steves return stirred up a lot of emotions online. Some called it the big, warm hug we all needed. Our fondness for nostalgia is nothing new. Thats kind of the point of nostalgia but as we fight Covid19 And Mark 20 years since 9 11, maybe we need it now more than ever. Our panels back with us to discuss and, eugene daniels, i wonder what you make of this the rise of nostalgia with the understanding that nostalgia is one of televisions oldest tricks. It is called a reboot. Its not necessarily just about the feels. Its about the dollars. But between seeing steve from blues clues. Abc is reviving Wonder Years. We are kind of on Nostalgia Overload right now. Yeah. I mean, to to and not all are made equal, right . I was rewatching or watching he is all that which is a Reboot Or Remake of she is all that if you remember that one. I think one of the things is that a lot of the people making um the work now are people that are our age, right . Theyre in their 30s, their 40s, theyre millennials. Um, and they want to bring back and make people feel like we did when we first saw the matrix. When we first saw blues clues, which that video from steve, i am not going to lie, it made me cry when i watched it On Twitter earlier this week. Because i think the the world feels still very confusing for a lot of people. Right . The idea that things were simpler back then makes you want to be a kid again. Thinking about watching the Wonder Years remakes for me on nick at nite. A lot of this is also kind of reframing those stories. The Wonder Years now with the families, that is something that is also part of the nostalgia is looking back and saying who was allowed to tell stories at the time . Who was allowed to be at the center of those stories . And i think that part of it is pretty fascinating. I watched it on abc. That is a little bit of a generation i am going to let that slide. But, ayesha, what about some of these reboots and the lens through which we view them . I totally take eugenes points in terms of who gets to tell the stories. I will be fascinated by this series that is about to debut on fx in terms of the way sometimes these series give us a chance to review what happened and kind of question our assumptions about it at the time. Well i think, like in the case of the impeachment story, that is a story that actually does need a retelling because back then people really made fun of Monica Lewinsky and she was treated almost as the villain. Or she was, you know, just this horrible person. And now, all of these years later, you look at it and you go she was really treated so badly by The Press and by the public. And it was all Sexism And Misogyny and it wasnt right so i think that is something that needs to be explored, again. I do think a lot of these reboots are because people are not that they are running out of ideas but the ideas that can get financed. Its like what what what has worked benefit, we will throw some money behind that. So lets make lets make another season of scoobydoo. And i love scoobydoo but its go back to the old things that works. I will say about steve and blues clues, my Sister Text me immediately when she saw this. She was very emotional. I was emotional. And it really brought tears to my eyes because steve. He left. And then, now, he is saying he never forgot us. Yeah. It was very sweet. It was it was it was a very sweet video, i have to say. It was a very sweet video. I am looking forward to the new matrix movie, so much. I saw the trailer. I was like oh my god, i am so excited but one more thing i want to talk about. And david, i want to come to you with this first because playstation made a bunch of announcements of new video games. Dont if you are not a Video Game Stay with me because one of the games is the sequel to god of war. Combines a lot of greek Mythology And Thor is in this one. Here is what thor looks like in the new game. Chris hemsworth, he aint. But he looks much truer to the way he would have looked based on how mythology describes thor. Big belly. Apparently, just kind of like much more of an airy look. Not quite as as beach ready. But big and powerful, the way that thor is described in norse mythology. David, this sparked a conversation about male Body Image online that i was there for in terms of guys who were like thor is supposed to to have abs. I think this makes sense but i am also amazed at how badly men need to talk about the way we view our bodies, and kind of catch up to what women have been talking about for decades now. Yeah. I mean, i will say, you know, the fact that i am in better shape than thor is not something i expected at this point in my life. Youre welcome. You are welcome. Yeah. Can you throw can you are you worthy to wield the hammer . That is the thing. Almost certainly not. You know, the odds are low. But i am you know, maybe after, like, 18 months after the Pandemic And Quarantine started, were ready for a a male hero with a covid bod. It is its possible. Um, but i i do think this. It is interesting. It goes back to something that eugene was saying earlier. This idea of Constant Reinterpretation and trying to, you know, maybe go back and correct some of the mistakes that we made or some of the oversimplifications. And say theres more room in these classic stories than we thought there was. And and that is, you know, i am stretching to find a serious take on a chubby thor. You did it, man. You did it. You know, yeah, all right. I will take the win. Hey, look. I i mean, thats that is what a powerful body looks like. Your your powers in your core from belly to butt thats where the bulk of your mass is. Chris hemsworth is built to be in movies but, you know, to each their own. So good to have the three of you with us tonight. Former obama speechwriter, david lit. Politicos eugene daniels, and nprs Aisha Roscoe. Coming up, its been 20 years since the 9 11 Terror Attack and we asked whats on your mind as we reflect today. We will share some more of your stories when we come back. Stay close. 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Comms were next to impossible so i found myself teaching City Council how to use Sms Messaging until we were moved to a bunker. Also, a dear friend lived across the hall from some of the hijackers. He died from an od less than a year later. He believed he could have made a difference. Lynn writes, all day, i shuttled kids from lockeddown classes to their anxious parents. People arrived on foot having walked out of d. C. Unsure what else would fall from the sky that day. Kids asked why they were being picked up early. I told them, their parents just wanted to be with them. Ronny writes, following the 9 11 attacks, i worked the 6 00 to Midnight Shift at the Family Assistance Center at the arlington sheraton hotel. We provided support, food, hotel rooms, and counseling to the survivors who had Family Members killed in the pentagon. After the shift was done, i slept a bit and went to work during the day. Physical and exhaustion afterwards took a toll on All Of Us. I would never trade one minute of it. It changed my life. And robert writes, the morning of 9 11, i was sitting in my taxi in front of All Saints Episcopal Church in long beach, california. Listening to the radio, i was waiting for the doors to open for morning mass. I was an acolyte, at the time. The news reported a plane just crashed into one of the Twin Towers in New York, and then the doors to the church opened and i went inside. The priest turned on the tv and the sacristy just in time to see the second Plane Crash into the second tower. It was then time for mass to start, so we really didnt realize what had happened. There were a lot of prayers said in that morning mass, but it wasnt until mass was over and we went back to the sacristy and the news On Tv was saying we had been attacked. We were in shock. Thank, yall, so much for sharing your stories with us. Now, if you are worried about unity in america, the aftermath of 9 11 might give you some reason for hope. 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Prevailed months before the war ended with a peace treaty. If you did not know about that September 11th, you definitely know about something that came right after, it happened in baltimore as the british attacked Fort Mchenry, bombarding the fort all day and all night. The next day they withdrew, and on september 14th, 1814, Fort Mchenry raised an american flag. That flag caught the eye of a young lawyer who had watched the whole battle. Rewrote a poem about what he saw but the dawns early light. His first sign that americas forces had succeeded. The defense of Fort Mchenry by Francis Scott Key was later sung to a popular tune from his day that is now the national anthem, the star spangled banner, so when rescue crews at the World Trade Center found a flag in the rubble and raised it over ground zero, that was exactly the right emblem. We have heard a lot lately how worried people are over americas divisions. Compared to the unity many people felt after the towers fell but unity is only part of the 9 11 story, the smaller part, i think. The biggest part is in our national anthem, resiliency in the face of calamity. The 9 11 commissions report described a failure of imagination that prevented us from envisioning the worst in our enemies. But a similar failure now might prevent us from envisioning the best in ourselves and our Rose Colored Recollections of unity might be making things worse. Vice president harris addressed the issue of Unity Today during her remarks in shanksville, pennsylvania. Unity is imperative in america. It is essential to our shared prosperity, to our national security, and to our standing in the world, and by unity, i dont mean uniformity. We had differences of opinion in 2001 as we do in 2021. And i believe that in america, our diversity is our strength. That diversity, those differences of opinion, theyre part of who we are. Its not so much that americans are not united. Were just not unanimous. This country is bound together by certain principles and also aggressively individualistic. Thats not a bug. Its a feature. Its the great paradox of america. What do you think united states means, anyway . States have unique powers under the constitution, remember the 10th amendment, Anything Congress cannot do, the states can. But the federal government is still supreme, and the states need it to do things from the u. S. Mail to the u. S. Military, the united states. A hybrid like the world has never seen, but you know who can not handle this kind of complexity at all . You know who has no capacity for it . The taliban. Al qaeda, they cannot fathom living in a world that does not give them everything they want all the time. We can. If we choose to. Terror is a feeling. And terrorists want to poison how we feel about this nation. Its a feeling. But so is courage. First responders and service members will tell you that courage is not the absence of fear. Its the presence of focus. You get through by focusing on something other than your fears. That is how we endure. And our symbols of democracy do not mean that were invulnerable. They mean were unstoppable. Other than the January 6th insurrection, the capitol had only been attacked before, the war of 1812, the dome was added in the renovation, working on it during the civil war. President lincoln was said to view the dome as a symbol that the union would survive, and do you know why the White House is white . Its because in that same war, the british also burned the president ial mansion, when we rebuilt it, we painted it to hide the Fire Damage so even though white on the White House is a symbol of our survival, the american paradox, the scars that shine like stars, i dont know how america will face its challenges but i take courage from 9 11 that we can at least get through them. Ground zero is not just a symbol of what we lost on that day. It is also a symbol of what we still have, whether we see another day like September 11th, 2001, or 1814, may not be up to us. But whether the american paradox lives on, that is entirely up to us. You can fear the rockets red glare, flinch with every Bomb Bursting in air, and still know in The End that our flag is still there. And with that said, wed love to hear from you. What gives you courage, despite americas challenges, email us theweek msnbc. Com. On twitter and instagram, the weekmsnbc. Include your name and where you live, well share some of your stories on our final episode Tomorrow Night. Thank you for making time. Stay tuned for an Encore Presentation of memory box, echoes of 9 11, the Documentary Features never before seen recordings taken in a Video Booth after the attacks. 20 years later, Those Eyewitnesss Return to the booth with reflections on the past two decades. 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