Thing that must never break. Unity is what makes us who we are. America at its best. To me, thats the central lesson of september 11th. This 9 11 anniversary is being marked weeks after the end of the u. S. Military presence in afghanistan, and the airlift that evacuated some 125,000 people, including thousands of americans. Those evacuations continue. Today, the second flight departed. And now were battling an even deadlier adversary. The Covid Outbreak is affecting every corner of our country. President biden talking up his new vaccine rules that will impact some 100 Million workers. Either get vaccinated or be tested weekly for covid. That has sparked a furious backlash from several republican governors who are threatening lawsuits. This morning, biden was asked about his new rules. What is your message to republicans who are calling these rules an overreach . Have at it. Look, im so disappointed that particularly some of the republican governors have been so cavalier with the health of these kids. So cavalier with the health of their communities. This is this is were playing for real here. That was this morning. Late this afternoon, more defiance from one of the most outspoken gop governors. When we see elected officials violate the constitution, we have a responsibility to fight back. And thats what were doing. [ cheers and applause ] and thats what were going to do in florida to combat what Joe Biden is trying to do with these unconstitutional mandates hes imposing. This wont stand. Bidens senior advisers today, the White House appeared to suggest it will take further steps if necessary. Were always looking at more we can do to protect and save lives. Well continue to look for ways to save more lives. Pfizer says it will be requesting approval for covid vaccines for children as young as 5 within the next few weeks. As the president battles his opponents on Vaccine Mandates, hes also working to help fellow democrats stay in office. Monday, he will travel to california to campaign with gavin newsom. A survey shows roughly 60 of likely voters opposed recalling newsom. Also, demonstrators expected to gather next saturday to demand what they say is justice for the hundreds of people facing charges for the January 6th insurrection. Today, they announced a dozen more planned rallies to be held into october. With us, eugene daniels, peter bergen, and jon meacham. Good to see All Of You tonight. So, eugene, a former aide confirmed to Nbc Today that on 9 11, george w. Bush called Joe Biden from a secure location in the midwest, and Joe Biden advised him to get back to washington. In times of crisis, a president unifies a nation. President biden talked about unity on 9 11, it was key during his campaign. And as we commemorate that day, what are we expecting to hear from him . What is really interesting about 9 11 and Joe Biden is that months before he became the chair of the senate foreign relations committee, that was the first moment that in a time of national tragedy, that Joe Biden was The Voice that weve seen since then, right . The voice of compassion, The Voice of were going to get through this. He was trying to get on the senate floor. He was trying to get to the cspan cameras. Ive talked to many of his aides who were with him that day, he was trying to get in the capitol so they could see that the government was back in business. He was going around, telling people were going to be okay. He did it in front of a couple of cameras, he also went on oprah six days after and did the same thing. Were going to see the same Joe Biden that became, that started that day. Talking to americans about, you know, theres nothing that we cant do when we team up or we get together. Were always going to be better on the other side of really tough things. I think one of the things that is really interesting in a story that were going to be working on how 9 11 impacted Joe Biden, it reinforced how he thought about foreign interventions. You have bookends of him becoming the foreign relations chairman, and him becoming the president who ended this war. While were not expecting a big speech from him, according to jen psaki, he has so much going on that they werent able to pin that in. But i guarantee well continue to hear from Joe Biden about 9 11, and more importantly about what it means to this nation 20 years later. How do you see, jon meacham, the line from the Joe Biden who was in the senate in 2001, to the President Today . What is his role now as we look back, 20 years ago . I think president biden, like President Bush, would rise to an occasion if need be. God forbid. President bush wanted to get back to washington as well. He was asking to do it. His father, The One conversation they had that day, as i recall, President Bush senior said you need to get back to washington. They both have an intuitive understanding of what the presidency is. It goes back to a sentence that Franklin Roosevelt wrote, interestingly, on september 11th, 1932, he defined the presidency as preeminently a place of moral leadership, how we are together, custom. A president is not an olympian figure, but a president does have a unifying role, both symbolically and substantively, in hours of crisis. The two men bring very different Life Experiences to the pinnacle of power. Unquestionably, President Bush had been a governor for six years at that point, of texas. And Joe Biden, if something happened now, he was in the senate, of course, for so long. He came into office in 1972. When Richard Nixon had just won reelection. And i think they have a similar view of the presidency. Which is, it should be a unifying force. You make decisions, you make your best call. And you live with the consequences no matter what people say from minute to minute. As much as its been talked about, theres a lot we dont know about 9 11. And the families of victims have been pushing hard for the release of some documents from the report. Some said they didnt want the president at the Ceremonies Tomorrow if he didnt order it. Which he did. And some of those unclassified portions will be released over the coming days, months. Do you think we might learn more about osama Bin Laden, any possible Saudi Culpability . What will you be looking for . I dont think well learn anything new about Bin Laden in those documents. My understanding is theyll investigate saudi links to 9 11. Two of the hijackers lived in san diego, and they were helped by saudi officials. Its not clear if they were being helped on their own Recognizance Or Something more. This has gone on for a very long time. You can understand the frustration of the families. On the other hand, once we see these documents, im not sure there will be anything else that shows how the saudis were more involved in 9 11. After all, Al Qaedas main goal was the overthrow of the saudi government. Maybe some saudi officials working together, wittingly or unwittingly, to help the attackers. But pinning it all on the saudi government, i think its highly unlikely. Meantime, as we know, theres a very different kind of war that the president is fighting against the coronavirus. A new poll from cnn showing a decline in approval of Joe Bidens handling of it. 56 now compared to 66 in april. How concerned is the administration . How much, if any, did that play into the decision to get tougher with Vaccine Requirements . I think theyre always paying attention to polling. You can look at the retweets and quote tweets of the white House Chief of staff, ron klain. But when it comes to the mandates or requirements of vaccines that the president announced, theyre just getting frustrated and as the President Said, basically fed up with the idea that people arent getting vaccinated. Theres 25 of people who have yet to get one jab. I think what we saw the president , the administration Working On Doing is making it tough to be unvaccinated in this country. Right . Because that is in their minds the way to take this public Health Crisis across the finish line, to make sure we can leave homes, be in person, and be safe. Thats what were seeing the most from this administration. You talked about the polling in april, that was around the time we were all feeling good. The vaccines, most of us were starting to be able to get the vaccines. There was this Promise And Goal of July 4th that we were going to be out and about and having a good time. And that the summer was going to be completely different than it ended up being. Now this administration with not just the Delta Variant but also the pushback, the extreme pushback from republicans, especially republican governors, On Being as they put it, helpful in this fight against covid19. They werent expecting that, they werent expecting people not to want to get vaccinated as much as they have been pushing back against that right now. So theyre working every single way they can to figure out how to make this happen. Because they know this presidency depends on them actually getting this pandemic under control. Almost nothing else matters unless people feel like they handled that well. Especially as we go into the midterms. And its not lost on anybody, even the governors who are pushing back hardest are those considering whether to run against Joe Biden. Having said that, how do you see the battle against the pandemic . President biden is not on trial here, we are, the country is. This is a matter of Common Sense and fairly straightforward civic engagement. My liberty does not extend to endangering you. It doesnt extend to continuing a pandemic, the possibilities of a pandemic, that is killing people and wrecking so much of our economic and culture life. So the President Seems, to me, to be asking us to be sensible and to be good citizens. And one of the keys to a democracy is that we see each other not as adversaries, but as neighbors. And why wouldnt you want to do what you could, not just to protect yourself, but to protect your neighbor . Its a pretty fundamental insight, a pretty fundamental conversation that were having. And i think the really one of the disturbing things, as we look forward politically and culturally in the country, if we cant unify around our own health, around the health of those we love, what could we unify around . Has unreason and a polarization that has affected our lives to much in the last 10, 15 years, is it reaching a point where were honestly willing to die for a political belief that is about a partisan Election And Scoring points . Its a really fundamental question. And as you well know, peter, in the middle has been this debate about afghanistan, the withdrawal, and particularly some of the people who were left behind. And theyre still trying to evacuate. We saw the second plane going out today. Heres Condoleezza Rice earlier this evening. I do worry, with the taliban back in power, and with their wellknown Integration Or Collaboration with Al Qaeda, that Al Qaeda could rebuild. Were going to have to work awfully hard with no eyes and ears on the ground, no intelligence assets on the ground, were going to have to work awfully hard that that doesnt happen again. Peter, you write in your book on Bin Laden, killing Bin Laden didnt kill his ideas. His ideas lived on. So what do you make of where we are now with afghanistan . Have we set the stage for a new threat . I think we have. I mean, the question is one of scale. I think it speaks for itself, the new Minister Of The Interior in afghanistan is according to the united nations, the leader of Al Qaeda. You have this astonishing for the first time in history, the leader of Al Qaeda is a senior member of the taliban cabinet, in control of an entire country. To say thats a surprising outcome doesnt really quite cover it. Its not if we had this conversation a year ago, it would have seemed extremely improbable. If Bin Laden were alive today, im sure he would be thrilled by this development. What does it mean for u. S. National security . Were still well defended. Our Intelligence Budget has tripled. There was no tsa, no department of homeland security. Were a much harder target. But if Al Qaeda has two or three years to regroup in in afghanistan with a friendly government, they can inspire people, too. If you look at the isis attacks in the united states, theyre carried out by people not trained by isis but inspired by isis. I think, you know, the taliban will declare its emirate. It will not be dissimilar to the caliphate declared in iraq. Its a problem. Some sobering thoughts on this eve of 9 11. Thanks to All Of You gentlemen. Coming up, one of our favorite doctors is here to break down all the covid headlines. And the president is calling for national unity. Well talk to Michael Beschloss on the likelihood of that. The 11th Hour, just getting under way on a friday night. Get under way on a friday night. People with moderate to severe psoriasis, or psoriatic arthritis, are rethinking the choices they make like the splash they create the way they exaggerate the surprises they initiate. Otezla. Its a choice you can make. 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Yasso audaciously delicious looking at cases over the past two months, when the Delta Variant was the predominant Variant Circulaing in this country, those who were unvaccinated were about 4 1 2 times more likely to get covid19, 10 times likely to get hospitalized, and 11 times more likely to die from the disease. The cdc is out with a series of new studies that underscore the biden administrations main message, vaccines work. And americans absolutely have the scientific tools to finally turn the corner on this pandemic. Doctor, good to see you. You told us you would like to shout those statistics at the top of your lungs. Vaccines, five times less likely to get infected, ten times less likely to get hospitalized, 11 times less likely to die. And zero outbreaks in the city schools in San Francisco since teachers and students went back in person. But the department says 90 of kids 12 to 17 are fully vaccinated. What more will it take to convince people that vaccines work, theyre worth it . I want to flip that number a little bit. Because theres another depressing number with pediatric cases. Last week, over 251,000 cases, the most ever pediatric cases in a week since the pandemic started. And the majority of those cases are, you wont be surprised to hear this, in states with high Community Transmission and low vaccination. And youre seeing hospitalizations also be on the increase for pediatrics. And the tough part is, when you look at states like florida or texas, many of those pediatric cases are related to school outbreaks. You have to ask this, what is the Cognitive Dissonance . Jon meacham said this, what will it take to have us come together if not keeping our children safe . It makes this poll even more interesting, finding that unvaccinated americans are driven by mistrust of the government, and 83 say they wont get it. How risky is it if Theres Nothing Anybody can do to get these people vaccinated . Will we be living with Covid Forever . I think the only way to get to the other side of it, when you hear the term that this virus may get endemic, it means it will stick around for a while. And for a longer period of time, well all have potentially have the chance to come across it, whether youre vaccinated or not. We talk often about the unvaccinated, theyre carrying the greatest burden. 90 of the hospitalizations are among the unvaccinated. But i want to talk for the vaccinated. The majority of americans are vaccinated. 75 have gotten one dose. You hear this question, why do the vaccinated care if people are unvaccinated . Because that remaining population has an impact on us, directly and indirectly. If you live in a community with more people who are unvaccinated, the rates of infection are higher. Everything you do, Breakthrough Infection Rates are higher, everything is riskier, your unvaccinated kids are more likely to get vaccinated. And everybody with a Burst Appendix or a Motor Vehicle Accident gets care delayed. And there was a study last week that said overwhelmed hospitals saw an increase in infections, which means that overwhelmed hospitals, its harder for them to take care of any of us. So thats why we care, because the remaining folks are not just hurting ourselves, theyre having an impact on our community. And the fda is urging parents not to look to get their kids under 12 vaccinated until the agency gives the allclear. What is the concern of having young children take vaccines before theyre approved . A big part of the pediatric trials is because theyre testing the dosage. Looking at the efficacy, and testing dosage. They want to increase the number of people theyre following to put minds at ease. And recruitment has ended. Theyre looking at primary data. 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Mike murphy, these republican governors are not letting up. And i want to play this for you from former Florida Congressman David jolly. Republicans want this fight. And rightly or wrongly, and they could be very wrong with the politics, but they believe this will help them going into november of 22. One said, biden just handed republicans the house next november, if they didnt have it already. And were going to be looking for a whole lot more. We want this fight. Mike, i wonder if youre hearing the same. If you are, do you think they might be right or are they a little bit delusional . Well, both parties want the fight. They come at it from different voter coalitions. Among democrats, 90 approval of what biden is doing. Among independents, its split. And theyre betting more people in the country want a tougher line on vaccines, and the number of people saying no vaccination at all has been slowly but steadily declining. The republicans are always tangled up in partybased primary politics. A lot of these governors, all they have to worry about is their nomination primary. And a couple of them are trying to run for president , trying to outtrump Donald Trump. The Midterm Election Part of this, i dont think David Jolly was talking about some republicans said this will deliver the house. The house is probably already delivered. The republicans have a lot of advantages. The bigger problem is the senate. Where bidens move will net net, states are different, is a plus for a democratic picking up of a few seats. So i think the politics are a little more complicated. But no doubt, both sides want the fight, each see a win. And i think biden has the better hand. And the calculation on the republican side is that Joe Biden is overplaying his hand, and the democrats who support him are as well. Back off. This is not where you should be as the government. What do you think the impact is, this guy that is quoted, biden just handed republicans the house . Look, i completely agree that republicans have a lot of structural advantages going into the midterms with regards to the house. But what biden is doing is making sure that hes delivering on his promise to get this pandemic under control. And by taking the fight directly to republicans, directly to the unvaccinated individuals who qualify for the vaccine right now. Hes making sure, knowing that he has years and years of federal precedent on his side, and polling shows voters overwhelmingly support this. And 75 of americans have already received one dose. Biden has a lot to play here, and this back and forth debate will not end well for republicans, who ultimately are using this harmful, inhumane approach to drive a political narrative. When their supporters are dying as a result, right . Hundreds of thousands of people have lost their lives in this pandemic. And hundreds of thousands more stand to lose their lives if this Pandemic Isnt brought under control. So what biden is doing is, hes getting the republican governors out of the way, they can scream and holler all they want. What matters here is that this requirement will save peoples lives. Many of the people who told me they were not going to get vaccinated are the same people who said during the election, remember, it was operation warp speed. Remember, it was operation warp speed. And that was Donald Trump. Look, theres also a disconnect with what a lot of republican governors are saying. I want to play what two of them said about vaccines very recently. Its time for us to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks. Its the unvaccinated folks who are letting us down. How difficult is this for us to understand . Why in the world do we have to come up with these crazy ideas that the vaccines have something in it, and its tracing people wherever they go . And the same people who are saying that are carrying Cell Phones around. I mean, come on. Does that play to the republican base, provaccine, but antimandate . Yes, i think there is something there for republicans. 8 of 10 democrats support a harder line on the vaccine. Which is what biden is doing. And i think that will go to 9. 6 of 10 republicans oppose it. Biden is uniting his side, and dividing the other side. If its a 21 fight in the republican party, with onethird provaccination, theyre going to be with biden. The other thing is, we have to remember, biden is in political trouble. He has three big problems, afghanistan, people wanted to leave, but not the way we left. He has the threat of the economy slowing down, which is real problem for a president in the President S party. And he knows the old strategy of declaring victory over covid on July 4th is out the window. He owns it. So hes doubling down and turning it into a fight to draw the republicans out to engage him. Juanita, let me give you the final 30 on that. This is a big moment for biden. This is something he can look back to and say, i changed the course of this pandemic. I stopped the Delta Variant by going hard against it. And going hard against republicans. And thats the case that democrats are going to be able to make. And that will serve them well in the midterms. People stop dying, thats a good political move. Juanita and mike, good to see you tonight. Coming up, well talk to Michael Beschloss about the state of the country 20 years after september 11th. Is mealtime a struggle . Introducing oreida Potato Pay. Where oreida golden crinkles are your crispy currency to pay for bites of this. With this. When kids wont eat dinner, Potato Pay them to. Oreida. Win at mealtime. Your mission stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. And take. It. On. With rinvoq. Rinvoq a oncedaily pill can dramatically improve symptoms. Rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. 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Back with us tonight, Michael Beschloss, his latest Work President S of war, and his new show premiered tonight. Michael, so much i want to talk about tonight. But our own Mark Murray compared Nbc News polling. He found that after 9 11, 72 said the country was headed in the right direction. As of august, only 29 say the country is headed in the right direction. Was it an illusion to think that in times of Crisis Americans always come together . Or have we as a people really changed that much since 9 11 . I think our system has basically broken down in the last 20 years in a way that no longer do we, are we in a position to depend on the kind of Unity We Saw at Pearl Harbor with roosevelt in 1941. Look at 20 years ago, as you remember, all those members of congress of both parties singing god bless america. Al gore, who lost this bitter election to george w. Bush by a little over 500 votes in florida, gets up and makes a speech. George bush is my president and i support him. Now, if that were to happen nowadays, if, god forbid, we had another 9 11, would Donald Trump get up and say Joe Biden is my president and i support him . I dont think so. Were in a very bitterly divided country after two wars that did not work out as planned, a great recession in 2008 that brought people a lot of misery, and in which the people on Wall Street who were responsible were never punished. And we honored those who died, the brave firefighters who rushed in to the building, the United 93 passengers and crew, the volunteers who joined the military to defend our country. But as you point out, in the aftermath, there was war, torture, and theres a complexity of the picture in its totality. You have to begin to ask, were those lives of americans who others who sacrificed given in vain . I would answer, they were absolutely not given in vain. But our government owes us is to protect us. They didnt do that on 9 11, and it didnt do it sufficiently in the wars in iraq and afghanistan, which most americans now look at as exercises that did not succeed. The job of not only government but the american president is to protect us as much as possible. And you have to look at last year. Did Donald Trump protect us at the time of a terrible pandemic . It reminded me of Woodrow Wilson in 1918 with the influenza pandemic, he made not a single speech telling americans what to do, because he was worried it would make him unpopular. You have your new series, fireside history. And you were reviewing the 9 11 attacks as the President And Congress wrestled with a response. What did you discover . I discovered that george w. Bush with the best of intentions rushed into a war with afghanistan, which was the right thing to punish Al Qaeda and to deprive them of a Safe Harbor that they could use to wage another largescale attack against the united states. Within a couple of years, it grew into nationbuilding, and an effort to build afghanistan into a democracy. It was never going to be one. And over 20 years, we spent trillions of dollars, americans and others lives were lost, and americans now look at it and say, should we ever get involved wars at all, even if its a noble war like World War ii to defend the country and the world against hitler and the Imperial Japanese . Thats not great for our country. Michael, please stay with us. Coming up, what were hearing from Family Members of one of the heroes of united flight 93, 20 years later. Serena williams. Wonder woman. Serena. Wonder woman. Serena. Wonder woman. Ace. Advantage you cannot be serious get your tv together with the best of live and on demand. Introducing Directv Stream with no annual contract. Your eyes. Beautiful on the outside, but if you have diabetes, there can be some notsopretty stuff going on, on the inside. 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Every year, the reading of the names from 9 11. What is the importance of marking these moments of history, of preserving these stories . And frankly, bringing people together around them . Because all of us should be able to unite around the idea that were saving our democracy. Thats what those heroes were doing on flight 93 and elsewhere 20 years ago tomorrow. Our Democracy Tonight is as much in danger, i think, as it was in 1860 and in 1940. The right to vote is being taken away from people in various states. The legitimacy of elections is being undermined. We could be in a situation where the congressional election next year, in which certain people are elected to congress who are deprived of taking office, and the same thing even when a president is elected in 2024. Thats enormously dangerous. We need to follow in the footsteps of those heroes. What should we take away from tomorrow . Just about everybody i run into is now again talking about where you were. Anybody of a certain age. Its so seared in our collective consciousness, where we were, what we did, how we reacted. Can there be some sort of coming together tomorrow, which is now just six minutes away . There should be. We all have some kind of ptsd from going through 9 11 that we will never get over. In normal times, the country should be able to unite with that kind of common experience. What you have instead is people who profit from dividing the country and pitting one group against another. You had a great talk about the politicizing of the vaccine against the covid pandemic. Who in history ever could have imagined that something that horrible could have taken place in our beloved country . Michael beschloss, what a pleasure. Thank you, and congratulations on the new program. Were back with more of the 11th Hour after a quick break. K your moms got to go shes family. Shes using my Old Spice moisturize with Shea Butter and shes wearing my robe. Mom Ahem Ahem Ahem were out. 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And we leave you with that sight of New York city. A reminder, perhaps, of the possibility of a Country Attack on america. A Special Edition of nbc nightly news. Terrorist declare war on the united states, Hijacking Jetliners crashing them into new Yorks Word Trade tower. Another airliner in the pentagon, threatening the seat of national power. Thousands likely dead, downtown New York in chaos. America wondering, whats next . Midtown manhattan, tonight americas at war