Mmhmm, San Francisco area, tHe east bay. Are you surprised by this California Recall of Governor Newsom . No. THe thing about California Ballot Stuff is that in my sentient life as a california resident, even growing up as a kid who didnt care much about politics, it was clear to me that tHe stupidest Stuff Imaginable could get on tHe ballot with nobody exerting any real effort to get it tHere. Once stuffs on tHe ballot, anything can happen. Direct democracy can be cray. Tax policy made by ballot initiative, wHen i was in elementary school, that stuff was absolutely nuts. And California Ballot measures, people like direct Democracy Write Stuff on tHe ballot tHere. Its always been a complete, umm, swear word. A complete swear word. This is a great way to transition you into a nice weekend, i hope. Thank you, racHel. Thank you, jonathan. All right. This isnt a game. Thats how President Biden scolded republicans who are outraged over his new efforts to combat tHe coronavirus. President biden announced a Sixpart Plan to compel millions of Unvaccinated Americans to get tHe shot, including requiring employers with more than 100 workers to mandate vaccinations or make unvaccinated workers get tested weekly. And this. Not 1,500 people dying delta, is lighting a fire under republican leaders. Some republican governors are threatening to sue tHe biden administration over Vaccine Mandates. THe republican governor of texas called tHe mandate, quote, an assault on private businesses who have tHe, quote, right to choose. And Hes He-one'>THe One who signed into law an Abortion Ban that doesnt allow women tHeir right to choose. And South Carolinas republican governor promised to battle President Biden to tHe, quote, gates of Hell. Whatever that means. President biden said this today in response. I am so disappointed that particularly some republican governors have been so cavalier with tHe Health of tHese kids. So cavalier with tHe Health of tHeir communities. Were playing for real Here. This isnt a game. And i dont know of any scientist out tHere in this field that doesnt think it makes considerable sense to do tHe six things ive suggested. Its terrifying to think that tHe Health-and-wellbeing'>Health And Wellbeing of tHeir constituents is taking a Back Seat to politics. But welcome to tHe gop in 2021. Keep in mind, tHese republican governors are all vaccinated tHemselves. THeyre not at risk. And people who work for private businesses dont even have to get vaccinated. THeyre complaining about requiring someone to get a Cotton Swab up tHeir nostril for 20 seconds once a week. Even more terrifying than tHe republicans in power are He-one'>THe Ones who want to be in power. THeyre appealing to tHe most fervent conservative primary voters. And tHey sound bonkers. Ohio Republican Senate Candidate j. D. Vance said, do not comply with tHe mandates. AnotHer senate candidate, Trump Ally Josh mandel, issued whats possibly tHe most bizarre statement about tHe mandate. Do not comply with tHe tyranny. And wHen tHe gestapo show up at your front door, you know what to do. THe gestapo . Really . It would be laughable if it werent so dangerous, because, like tHe president said, this isnt a game. Republican Posturing And Screaming are resulting in more people getting sick and more people dying. If tHeyll not Help, tHese governors wont Help end tHe pandemic, ill use my powers as president to get tHem out of tHe way. Joe biden is also using that power to fight tHe absurd Republicandriven Recall Election in california. Right wing efforts to oust Governor Gavin Newsom reacHed tHeir Height earlier in tHe pandemic wHen fearmongers and liars labeled newsoms covid precautions as democratic overreach. That was never tHe case. It was about keeping californians safe. And now, what was once seen as a liability for newsom might be what keeps him in office. As tHe republican alternatives to Newsom Decry Mask and Vaccine Mandates and as voters see whats happening with tHe virus in republicanled states, polls show tHey want to stay tHe course. THe latest poll out today from tHe l. A. Times shows 60 of californians dont want Gavin Newsom recalled. Leading off our Discussion Tonight is jaime harrison, chairman of tHe democratic national committee. Chairman harrison, welcome to tHe last word. Thank you so much for having me, jonathan. All right. Ive got to have you listen to something that Kristi Noem had to say on Fox News on thursday. Have a listen. This is not a power that is delegated to tHe federal government. This is a power for states to decide. In South Dakota were going to be free. My legal team is already working and we will defend and protect our people from this unlawful mandate. Chairman harrison, republican leaders are making a conscious choice to fight back against President Bidens covid protection measures. How will democrats proceed in dealing with a party so unwilling to Help fight tHe pandemic . Jonathan, tHese people are unhinged. Its like watching a version of Looney Tunes or something. THeyre cuckoo for cocoa puffs. This is absolutely crazy. THere are so many vaccines that we take just walking around. You know, polio, measles. I have two young kids and every few months we take tHem to get tHeir shots so that tHey can go to school. So why tHe hysterics for adding yet one more vaccine . THere are people who are dying in tHe streets in otHer nations because tHey dont have access to tHe vaccine and we do. We are so fortunate. We are so blessed. But we also need to use tHe mind and tHe intellect we have. Lets protect our people. And what you see with Joe Biden is, this isnt about politics for him. THe Health and tHe safety of tHe american people is his number one concern. And thats why this party is moving forward with protecting tHe american people. Not worrying about polls and politics and all that, but worrying about how we can protect tHe american people, particularly tHe most vulnerable. I think about my kids who cant get vaccinated. THere are 17,000 kids, jonathan, Here in South Carolina since school started that have contracted covid. Just tHe otHer day, two, a 9yearold and a 15yearold, passed away. We need real leadership. And tHese republican governors, were in tHe situation because tHey wont lead. You know, chairman hrrison, Ron Brownstein wrote in tHe atlantic, tHe California Recall could be a roadmap. He wrote, newsom has focused less on selling his accomplishments than on raising alarms that his republican opponents will exacerbate tHe Coronavirus Pandemic by repealing tHe public Health protections. THe question for you, chairman of tHe democratic party, do you see this as a roadmap for democrats in 2022 particularly, but also beyond . Well, jonathan, i think tHe american people overwHelmingly, at least 75 , are tired of being in a covid world. THeyre tired of dealing with all things that come with covid expected want to get out of it. But tHey see tHe path to get out of it is by listening to our doctors, listening to tHe scientists, who say get tHe vaccine, wash your hands, wear your masks, do tHe things necessary so we can move on. But tHe republicans, just like tHe issue of climate change, will find tHe biggest cracks out tHere, people like Rand Paul who will come up with all wHen i say wackadoodle stuff that kicks tHe can down tHe road. Folks are tired of this. And we can get past it. We know we can get past it. We just need to get folks vaccinated. Thats what tHe democratic party will be about, about exercising real leadership. Again, this isnt about politics. This is about tHe Health and tHe safety of tHe american people. But we see that were not getting that type of leadership from tHe republican party. So wHere tHey fail to lead, were going to continue to push forward in order to protect tHe folks in this nation. You know, ive Heard some people sort of critique tHe president s speech yesterday, about his tone, about, you know, not just defiance but just sort of open annoyance at tHe unvaccinated. And to my mind, tHe president is channeling a very palpable anger from a majority of tHe country. Do you see any i know for tHe president this isnt about politics, this is about public Health. But in tHe realm of politics, is tHe president doing tHe right thing by channelling that anger that is out tHere in tHe country from tHe vaccinated toward tHe unvaccinated because well, because of tHem, we cant do anything. Yes. Jonathan, people are Hell, people are just tired. THey are tired of tHe situation. And we can see ourselves out of it. But weve got to follow tHe science. Weve got to follow tHe recommendations of tHese doctors. I mean, pandemics arent new to this earth, right . We know that in tHe past, wHen people have gotten vaccinated, you get masks, vaccinations, Herd immunity, you can get past this. Its about choice . Come on, folks. Lets be our caretakers, lets Take Care of Her'>Each OtHer. Even if you dont do it for yourselves, do it for tHe people you love, do it for your grandkids, do it for tHe immunocompromised down tHe street that you love or that you Take Care of. We have to protect Her'>Each OtHer. That means getting vaccinated, making sure were wearing our masks, so we can get past this. People are tired of it. I know tHe president is tired of it. Im tired of it. I know youre tired of it. Everybodys tired of it. So lets go and do tHe things that we know are necessary in order to get past this. Tired of it. A great mantra. Jaime harrison, chair of tHe democratic national committee, Thank You for joining us tonight. Coming up, democratic senators are working furiously to ready tHe 3. 5 trillion Infrastructure Bill for next week. And a key decision from tHe parliamentarian could come this weekend. Well get tHe latest, next. Im not getting through tHe pandemic just to end up with tHe flu. I asked for fluzone Highdose Quadrivalent. Its tHe 1used Flu Vaccine for people 65 and older. Fluzone Highdose Quadrivalent is tHe only vaccine approved by tHe fda for superior Flu Protection in adults 65 . Im not letting my guard down. Fluzone Highdose Quadrivalent isnt for people whove had a severe allergic reaction to any Flu Vaccine or vaccine component, including eggs or egg products. Tell your Health-care'>Health Care professional if youve ever experienced severe Muscle Weakness after receiving a flu shot. 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Joining us is nbc News Capitol Hill Correspondent Leigh ann caldwell. Leigh ann, what can we expect as we Head into next Weeks Deadline . Hey, jonathan. So its been a critical week on Capitol Hill even though tHe House And Senate arent even in session, as you mentioned. Those committees are drafting tHeir relevant pieces of this 3. 5 trillion human Infrastructure Bill. But this is just one step in tHe process, and tHe first step in tHe process. THe house is going through tHe process right now. THe senate is also doing something similar. And tHen it goes to tHe entire caucus, tHe democratic caucus, wHere tHey have to agree on tHe terms of this bill. And thats going to be extremely difficult, because weve already seen a lot of pushback from two senators, senator Joe Manchin and even Kirstin Sinema of arizona, who have a lot of problems with tHe top Line Number of tHe bill, 3. 5 trillion. THey want to make sure that a lot of tHese programs for children, for tHe elderly, that tHeyre meanstested so that tHe most vulnerable have access to tHese programs and that tHey are tHe most limited in scope. So tHere is a lot of negotiations to do, jonathan, and not a lot of time. THe key phrase you used was extremely difficult. And Heres-something'>THeres Something extremely difficult that democrats are trying to come, tHeyre working to get major Immigration Changes into tHe reconciliation bill. And that would be a huge achievement, if tHe parliamentarian allows it. WHen do we expect to Hear from tHe parliamentarian on that . Thats right, jonathan. So democrats met with tHe parliamentarian today. Now, sHe is this referee to determine if legislation is able to be included or proposals are able to be included in tHe special rules that tHeyre trying to pass this human Infrastructure Bill. And tHe democrats made an argument that in fact it should be included because it follows senate rules, because it has a budgetary impact. Its pretty wonky, but big picture, what democrats want to do is provide permanent legal status for 8 Million currently undocumented immigrants, thats dreamers, people with temporary protected status, essential workers, and farm workers. Now, republicans were also in that meeting and tHey argued that it does not follow senate rules, that this piece of legislation is not able to accommodate this immigration component. Its up to tHe parliamentarian. At this stage in tHe process, to recommend what should happen. SHe should come out with Her decision or Her recommendation, i should say, as early as this weekend. Democrats are pushing for something very soon, because, as we mentioned, tHeres not a lot of time. THeyre trying to work very quickly. All right, nbcs Leigh Ann caldwell, Thank You. Joining us now is democratic Congresswoman Debbie Dingell of michigan, tHe senior democratic whip. Congressman dingell, its great to see you, thanks for coming to tHe last word. In a call with reporters this week, Senator Schumer was confident democrats in tHe senate would be unified. Its have a listen. In our caucus, tHere are some in my caucus who believe 3. 5 trillion is too much. THere are some in my caucus who believe its too little. In reconciliation, were going to all come togetHer to get something big done. And second, its our intention to have every part of tHe Biden Plan in a big and robust way. Congresswoman dingell, how confident are you feeling about votes in tHe house . So, jonathan, its good to see you, i miss you. Its been a long august. THeres an old Will Rogers statement that people with weak stomachs should not watch sausage or laws being made. And we are clearly in tHe Sausagemaking Process right now. But tHe fact of tHe matter is, we cant afford to fail. So i dont think its going to be pretty for tHe next two weeks. I think tHeres going to be a lot of discussions, a lot of negotiations, a lot of back and forth, a lot of passion. But we cant fail. Chuck schumer is right, we have to be united, because tHe american people are expecting us to deliver on roads and bridges and broadband and a lot of otHer programs that really matter to people every day. So in He-end'>THe End, were democrats, we will come togetHer and well get this done. Congresswoman dingell, i have a question, because you are from michigan, and you are someone who is like, wHen you speak, especially wHen it comes to things dealing with policy, but how it plays in michigan, folks listen. And so wHen someone like senator Joe Manchin says 3. 5 trillion is too much and i cant see supporting anything bigger than a trillion dollars, does that play for your constituents in michigan . Is that Rationale Something democrats should be actually should be listening to . So i want to say a lot of different things Here. First of all, tHere are a lot of people who think tHeres more than one senator from West Virginia that represents tHe country and tHere are a lot of voices. And i love Joe Manchin, Hes a good friend, but, you know, tHe 435 members of tHe house that also have a right to have a voice, so West Virginia is not tHe only state in tHe country. So im going to start tHere. THe fact of tHe matter is, weve also we care about weve had seven storms. What happened in louisiana, what happened in New Jersey and new york, was terrible. But 20,000 homes were damaged in a storm at He-end'>THe End of june and weve had six more with floods that are going over peoples first floor windows. And i have people say, im sorry about what happened in otHer states, but who cares about us . We need to build up resiliency. We keep having tHese Once In A Lifetime storms what seems like every week. So people want something done on those issues. And tHe president has set a voluntary standard for 2030 of 50 electric vehicles. THey want to know were going to invest in tHe infrastructure so people will buy those evs. THere are all tHese issues that people care about and need. Well have a lot of discussion but tHey want to see results. THey want broadband. THey cant i mean, tHe kids, tHey want tHeir kids back in school, but broadband is so unequal. Its not Here in tHe urban areas, its out in tHe rural areas. Ive been trying to do virtual Hearings in tHe car with markups and votes, and its a nightmare. People want results. Congresswoman, you sit on tHe House Energy Committee which released details of its portion of tHe bill this week, which includes 190 Billion for an expansion of medicaid to Help tHe elderly and disabled stay in tHeir homes. Its far less than tHe 400 Billion that tHe president wanted and still below tHe 250 Billion that Senator Bob Casey of pennsylvania requested. Talk about that change. Do you think tHe overall size of tHe bill will come down significantly . I dont know whats ultimately going to happen. I think 3. 5 is wHere were looking right now. You know that bill is also my bill, it is tHe Dingell Bill in tHe house, and its not enough money. President biden put 400 Billion in wHen He initially talked about it. We have almost A Million people, 800,000 people that are on a Waiting List right now for homebased community care. Seniors. Were tHe only industrialized nation in tHe world that doesnt Take Care of its seniors, that we impoverish tHem. We need to do something about this. I have stated i dont think its enough money. Im working with bob casey. You know me, you know how intense i am wHen im working it. Oh, yeah. Im not leaving anybody alone. But well see wHere this all comes out. Weve got to do a lot of discussing and seeing wHere were going to get on tHese totals. But that bill is very important, and i think we need its time for us to Take Care of our seniors. We put tHem in institutions, tHeyre desperate, tHey have nobody to Take Care of tHem. I know, i was lucky enough to have my husband be able to stay at home. But tHe days i took my Head and put it against tHe wall, trying to make a broken system work, thats what tHe dictionary says, infrastructure, tHe system and processes that let a country operate smoothly, a company operate smoothly. Shouldnt be able to go to work without having to worry about tHeir children or parents or relatives that tHey care about . Congresswoman debbie dingell, that should be a rHetorical question. THe answer is yes. Thank you very much for joining us tonight. Great to see you, congresswoman dingell. Coming up, well get tHe latest on tHe January 6 investigation, plus an expert who spends his time Monitoring Extremist right wing groups will tell us why we need to talk about September 18. Thats next. 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Ruled that this man, jacob chansley, must remain in detention until sentenced for his role in tHe capitol insurrection. This is tHe third time Hes been denied release. Jacob chansley is one of 600 people who have so far been charged for tHeir actions on January 6. 63 or about 10 of tHem have pleaded guilty, according to buzzfeed news. Meanwhile tHe house select committee investigating tHe insurrection is making progress in its efforts to determine tHe role some republican members of congress and White House officials might have played on January 6. THe committee announced it has received, quote, thousands of pages in response no tHeir requests from Executive Branch agencies and telecom companies for relevant records. THe committee says so far, material has come in from nearly all Executive Branch agencies and we continue to work with tHem to identify tHe higHest priority records. THere are fears that anotHer January 6 Style Attack could happen in washington next weekend. A right Wing Extremist Group has planned a Solidarity Rally on September 18 for those charged over tHe capitol riot. But its unclear just what will happen at this event. Some extremists have been promoting it. OtHer groups are warning tHeir members to steer clear. THe proud boys posted, we arent going and you shouldnt eitHer because errbody going to jail. Sounds like bait. Joining us now are paul butler, Law Professor at Georgetown University and a former federal prosecutor and jared holt, a fellow at tHe digital research lab. His latest Substack Piece is entitled lets talk about September 18. Paul, i saw you chuckling. WHen tHe proud boys are saying errbody going to jail, you should pay attention. Paul, i want to start tHe conversation really about January 6. And Heres what congresswoman zoe lofgren, a member of tHe January 6 Select committee said about House Minority Leader Kevin Mccarthy who has threatened tHe committee for seeking his communications records. Have a listen. Whats He hiding . Why is He trying to keep tHe truth from coming out . You know, i think tHe leaders of our country, and kevin is one of tHem, should be stepping forward and trying to get to tHe bottom of everything that led up to January 6. And people who arent doing that are a mystery to me, unless tHey participated. So paul, how much legal peril is Kevin Mccarthy in . Hes got a reason to be concerned. Commission Chair Congressman Bennie thompson seems to have instructed his investigators to go hard or go home. So tHeyre getting tHe goods on all tHe big names, donald, melania, tHe trump kids, rudy giuliani, steve bannon. THeyve getting records from 15 Social Media companies, not just Facebook And Twitter but Parlor And 4chan and all those creepy places on tHe web wHere Desk Terrorists hide. THere will be records from federal agencies that will be tHe most productive. Were going to get all political appointees, what tHey knew about any attempts to supports tHe Big Lie in tHe federal government. Jonathan, my favorite might be tHe request for all documents related to tHe stability of Donald Trump or his fitness for office. Ooh. Actually that is that is wow. I cant wait to see what those results entail. Jared, so tHen what do we need to know about September 18 . I think a lot of tHe Coverage Weve been seeing about September 18 has quite frankly been hyperbolic, based on tHe analysis were seeing. This rally thats planned for September 18 is going to potentially be very significant, but maybe not in tHe sense that it could generate anotHer type of January 6 event, but ratHer it could lay Patchwork Or Groundwork for those kind of events to happen in tHe future in d. C. Or maybe even at State Capitols going forward. So tHen, i mean, given what you just said, so and tHe fact that you monitor tHese situations, so is tHe chatter similar to January 6, or less than January 6 . Its much less than. January 6 was tHe byproduct of for one point, you had a sitting president of tHe united states and all his allies in congress and right wing Media Egging on tHese Big Lies and encouraging people to turn out to an event like this. Trump is more or less out of tHe picture at this point, doing his thing on tHe side but certainly not tHe social pariah that He once was. And tHe guy who is putting togetHer this rally, matt brainard, He simply doesnt have tHe clout required to draw that kind of crowd. And a lot of tHe same extremist groups that participated in January 6 have been very clear with tHeir members that tHey should not go to this, that a lot of tHe trials for tHeir members that participated in January 6 are still ongoing. And this, if tHeir members show up and cause trouble again, is just going to mess all of that up while tHeyre trying to figure out a way out of tHe Heyve'>Situation THeyve dug tHemselves into. And so tHen, paul, given what jared just said, do you think that deterrence works, that tHese, tHe arrests and tHe charging of tHe folks involved in January 6 is making it possible for September 18 to not be a repeat . I hope so. But who i really hope learned a Lesson Isnt so much tHe domestic terrorists but Law Enforcement. Jonathan, we learned that on january 4, Law Enforcement officials sent an Email Warning that a large number of people are coming to tHe capitol in two days to engage in civil unrest and violence. On january 4, tHeres a Conference Call wHen all tHese Law Enforcement officials are talking about tHe potential for a Mass Casualty Event on January 6. So tHey knew but tHey didnt act like tHey knew. Why wasnt more done to protect tHe capitol . Because tHe result was tHe worst attack on tHe capitol since tHe war of 1812. Lets just hope that September 18 is nothing like January 6. Paul butler, jared holt, thanks for joining us tonight. Thanks for being Here. Coming up, tonight Joe Biden has tHe difficult task about speaking to america about tHe 20th Anniversary of 9 11 against tHe backdrop of our current politics. How do we make sense of whats happened in our politics, in our culture, in tHe 20 years between now and tHen . Well talk about that, next. Lk. I dont just play someone brainy on tv im an actual neuroscientist. And i love tHe science behind Neuriva Plus. Unlike ordinary memory supplements, Neuriva Plus fuels six key indicators of Brain Performance. More Brain Performance . Yes, please neuriva. Think bigger. Hey google. I order my groceries online now. Shingles doesnt care. I keep my social distance. Shingles doesnt care. I stay within my family bubble. Shingles doesnt care. 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THe president had tHe unenviable task of talking about tHe national unity many felt in 2001 against tHe backdrop of our current politics. As 1,500 people are dying every day of a virus for which tHere is a vaccine. And after all we watcHed, a violent mob breacHed tHe nations capitol, Hunting Lawmakers and beating Police Officers to try to overturn tHe election results, egged on by tHe tHenpresident. THe last 20 years have brought us two wars. THe first black president , elected twice. And Donald Trump. How do we understand that history . Former deputy national Security Adviser Ben Rhodes reflected on that earlier today. Something has broken in those 20 years that weve reacHed a point wHere you could have a violent insurrection on tHe u. S. Capitol, tHe very threat that we were so worried about at 9 11, tHe very attack those Heroic passengers prevented on tHe flight Headed to tHe capitol. You had people trying to blame antifa, trying to obscure what happened, thats how far weve fallen in 20 years. Frankly, thats reflective of a reality wHere thats been this kind of radicalization inside, lets face it, tHe american right wing. But that isnt tHe whole story. Our culture is a whole lot more liberalized today than it was 20 years ago. Just look at american commercials or Network Television shows. THere is much broader acceptance of lgbtq rights. People recognizing that black lives do indeed matter. Confederate monuments coming down. But in many ways, Conservative Politics has become more extreme and more rooted in Disinformation And Myth instead of fact. Joining us now are eugene robinson, associate Editor And Pulitzer prize winning columnist for tHe washington post. Hes an msnbc political analyst. Joanne freeman, professor of history at Yale University and author of tHe field of Blood Violence in congress and tHe road to civil war. And jonathan alter, a columnist for tHe daily Beast And Msnbc political analyst. Joanne, wHetHer its tHe attack on January 6 or tHe pandemic, we havent seen that sense of common purpose that we did 20 years ago. Why do you think tHe 9 11 attack spawned a national unity that were not seeing now . Its interesting, because that reallysense, as tHeeal we, a sense that we as americans were joined togetHer in that moment. You think about that singing by of congress on tHe steps of tHe capitol. That was 9 11. Were now in this hyperpartisan, polarized moment that is hyperextreme and, you know, to be quite blunt about it, tHere is on tHe right, tHere are people who are no longer really attacHed to some of tHe fundamental aspects of democracy like free and fair elections, like tHe rule of law. Some things that, you know, 20 years ago i dont think we would have assumed would get tHe kind of play that tHeyre getting now. Eugene, President Biden acknowledged tHe darker forces we saw in tHe aftermath of 9 11 against muslims even at a time of unity. Have a listen. THe 9 11 generation stepping up to serve and protect in tHe face of terror, to get those terrorists who were responsible, to show everyone seeking to do harm to america that we will hunt you down and we will make you pay. That will never stop. Today, tomorrow, ever, from we also witnessed tHe darker forces of human nature. Fear and anger, Resentment And Violence against muslimamericans, true and faithful followers of a peaceful religion. Gene, it seems like that anger was always present, its just shifted over tHe years to otHer groups, like undocumented immigrants or black Lives Matter or socialist liberals. Yeah, i think it has been tHere. I mean, remember, think back to september 10, 2001. We were a divided nation tHen. We had just come off this bitterly contested closest election in our history that was decided by hanging chads and finally and ultimately tHe supreme court decided tHe election. And, you know, everyone accepted george w. Bush as tHe legitimate president. But not everyone was happy about it. And so i think tHe ugliness that we see, we saw erupt in some antimuslim sentiment after 9 11, that we saw erupt in tHe rise of Donald Trump, and that we see now on tHe far right, i think its been tHere. It needed tHe sparks and catalysts to let it express itself. And its Here now, and in our faces in way that we havent seen in a long time. Jonathan, Hillary Clinton toucHed on something, sHe said sHes more concerned today about internal threats. Have a listen. We always have to be aware of and protect against external threats. But what really is tearing our country apart and threatening our democracy is what we saw on January 6. And i unfortunately have seen so much of that kind of continuing divisiveness and hatred, and ideological attitudes about our democracy, about Her'>Each OtHer. I think every american, regardless of wHere you stand on tHe political spectrum, should be as worried if not more right now about what were doing to ourselves. Mmhmm. And jonathan, it seems like unity was easy wHen tHe threat came from outside tHe united states. But now that tHe threat is coming from inside, were seeing republicans feel tHe need to provide Cover Or Excuse or defend tHe insurrectionists ratHer than denounce tHem. Yeah, we have a crisis of faith in our institutions, our importantly, in Her'>Each OtHer. We dont just believe in Her'>Each OtHer tHe way we have at various times in tHe past. All of this is part of tHe fallout from 9 11, in tHe same way that tHe big event of tHe first quarter of tHe 20th century, World War radiated into tHe Russian Revolution and tHe seeds of World War ii. This Bomb Blast in 2001 radiates. And tHe toxicity that gave cancer to a number of people working on tHe pile is metastasizing in tHe culture, and creaing conditions of division that we havent really seen since tHe civil war. THe origins of it in tHe post9 11 period, tHe 2002 midterms, which were tHe first time since 1994 that tHe party in tHe White House won. People rallied around george w. Bush, but tHere were tHese terrible Negative Ads against democrats, wHere tHey would have democratic candidates morphing into pictures of osama bin laden. Even tHen, you saw tHe republican party was radicalizing in a way that was based on a foundation of lies. And that this would have a terrible, corrosive effect on our political culture. And, you know, joanne, tHeres no better example of this toxicity, tHe shift in this country, particularly within tHe republican party, in tHe 20 years since 9 11, than rudy giuliani. I worked on bloombergs first campaign for mayor. I know on september 10th, new york could not wait for that to happen, because that would start tHe clock on tHe rudy Giuliani Rule of new york city. But on september 11th, He became americas mayor. He ran for president himself. Now today Hes facing disbarment for spreading so many lies about tHe election for trump. Talking about shifting tides, thats certainly an extreme example. But one thing that is strikingly different in tHe last 20 years, giuliani and any number of people would be caught up in tHe impact of this, and thats Social Media. THe impact of Social Media. Everyone has been talking, jonathan and eugene, about radicalization. Part of that is a product of Social Media spreading radical words and ideas with everincreasing speed, and no filter. And after, in tHe leadup to tHe civil war, tHe telegraph did tHe same thing. Spreading news, spreading dissension. It was ripe and open for tHe kind of use were seeing Social Media be put to today. You know, weve got two minutes left. I want to get to each of you. Eugene, you wrote a fantastic column about robert e. Lee, and tHe removal of that enormous statue in richmond. Briefly talk about tHe significance of tHe removal of that statue. Its not just removing a confederate statue. What else does its removal signify . Im just arguing that we also dismantled tHe myth of robert e. Lee, tHe sort of revanchist myth of him being tHe greatest general in u. S. History, who reluctantly fought for his state. And was, you know, was against slavery, actually. None of that is true. He wasnt a great general, He lost tHe war. He really lost tHe war. He lost everything. And took casualties at a rate that, you know, like stalingrad, basically. He was a slave owner, not a kindly one. He said slavery was evil, but it was more evil to tHe white man than to tHe black man. He was not a good guy. No. He had this myth, that was used to justify tHe imposition of jim crow, and tHe maintenance of jim crow, and everything. 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Ground zero, wHere Hell be joined by former president barack obama. Shanksville, pennsylvania, and tHe pentagon. Special coverage on msnbc starts at 5 00 a. M. Eastern. Well be anchoring live from ground zero. THen well have continued coverage throughout tHe day. THere will be an Encore Presentation of Memory Box Tomorrow at 10 00 p. M. Eastern on msnbc. That is tonights last word. THe 11th Hour with Brian Williams starts right now. Good evening once again. Day 234 of tHe biden administration. And in less than an hour, it will be september 11th. Two decades since tHe terror attacks that changed this nation forever. President biden arrived in new york earlier this evening. Tomorrow, Hell take part in ceremonies Here, in pennsylvania, and at tHe pentagon. Today, in a white House Video posted on Social Media, He reflected on tHe impact of that awful day. We saw a national unity bend, we learned that unity isHe