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For reproductive rights in America And Jamie raskin on where the stands on Document Production went all in starts right now . Them good evening from New York. Im chris. A is just a few hours ago president Joe Biden announced a sweeping new vaccine mandate, or set of mandates. That could get as many as 100 Million workers vaccinated, as part of a new initiative to curb the Delta Variant. My job as president , is to protect all americans. So tonight, im announcing that the department of labor, is developing an emergency rule. To require all employers, with 100 or more employees, that together employ over 80 Million workers. Two and share their work forces are fully vaccinated. Or show a negative test at least once a week. Some of the biggest companies are already requiring. This united airlines. Disney. Tysons food. And even fox news. The bottom line, we are going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated coworkers. The tone of Bidens Speech Today i thought was pretty striking. Its been clear from the beginning, right, from back in the campaign, through inauguration day. To, now the administration has understood from day one, their Number One mandate, Number One goal, was to contain, even suffocate the. Virus to restore some sense of normalcy. Its also unclear, the best way to do, that the best tool they have that we have is vaccination. And yet despite the fact, that a big majority of eligible americans are vaccinated, and that is true across lines of race, class, there are tens of millions who have not. In the cost of that has been enormous. My message to Unvaccinated Americans is this, whats more is there to wait for . We have been patience. But our patience is wearing thin. And your refusal has cost all of us. So please do the right thing. In order to make this happen, the president signed a string of executive. Orders he laid out a safe Point Plan to defeat covid, centering around vaccinate the unvaccinated. Further protection for the vaccinated, through booster shots, keeping schools safely open. Increasing testing and requiring masking. Protecting our economic recovery. That weve seen since hes took office. And improving care for the many thousands of people with covid. He also made it clear, that he holds republican officials responsible, for the spread of covid, the huge outbreaks weve seen this summer. Saying he believes the power of his office, to make sure School Officials were making Kids Safe are protected. All School Officials trying to do the right thing by our children, allow is be on your side, let me be blunt, my plan also takes on elected officials in states that are undermining you, in these lifesaving actions. Right now local School Officials are trying to keep children safe in a pandemic well, their governor picks a fight with them and even threatens their salaries or their jobs. Talk about bullying the schools. If they will not help with the governors wont help beat the pandemic, i will use my power as president to get them out of the way. He announced he was cracking down on people who violate Mask Mandates, and scolding the wildly antisocial Behavior Weve seen in so many videos that have gone viral in recent months. Im announcing, that the Transportation Safety administration, the tsa, will double the fines on travelers, that refused to mask. If you break the rules, be prepared to pay. And by the way, show some respects. The anger you see on television toward flight attendants, and others doing their job. Is wrong. Its ugly. The directness with which biden delivered the speech, indicates to me at, least that he and his administration, his political advisor,s understand there on the right side of both the politics in the substance here. They need to get covid under control, and it is not contained right now. A recent poll found 51 of people approved vaccinations traveling to airplane. 58 approved to attend events with large crowds. 56 to go to the officer worksite. More than 75 of americans 18 and up have gotten at least one. Shot this is not, its a country thats divided on everything, but its not that divided on this. If this is not abortion, this is not immigration. 75 . Its a political, fight that President Biden should have won. And he clearly does. Surprisingly theres been a fair share of yelping from republicans, Congressman Tyson Massie of kentucky says its unconstitutional. Arizona governor Doug Doocy says its the Cap Z the kind of big government retrieve charge or to prevent. The in conch are treated, are you people trying to start a full on revolts . Honestly what the hell is wrong with democrats . Leave people to hello . This is insanity. Full on revolt . What do you think he meant by the . Its amazing how common its come for republican politicians to read threaten something like fallen. Revolts in the face of policies they do not like. Weve got a lot of vexation has had to get vaccinated for i dont, know his service in the u. S. Armed. Forces oren ruling in school, and we have them, all for the same reason. Because communicable diseases communicate. They move through populations, and even vaccinated populations, its just a numbers game. Today that was the clear message from President Biden. The summers been brutal in many parts of the country, particular throughout the, south to many american lives, lost too many preventable deaths. And were heading into the Fall And Winter with School Back in session. Its time to reset our priorities, to battle this horrible disease, together through whatever means necessary. Doctor francis collins, the he joins me now. I want to start doctor collins, with something you and i spoke about the last time you were on my program. National institutes of health runs a hospital. You told me, somewhat surprisingly, that because the vaccinations were under emergency use authorization, you could not mandate in your hospital. That has changed now. I imagine it has been mandated in your hospital. One of the results have that been . Well i think it was very readily accepted, by the people who delivered care in our hospital. Which sees particularly sick patients, many of them cancer immunotherapy, patients who are very dangerously at risk for this virus. Its not a hard sell. That the legal abilities to do so got a lot better, when fda gave full approval, to the pfizer vaccine. That cleared away the one last legal hurdle, about being able to mandate this. And as you heard today, the president aims to act in that situation. I think way effectively, and aggressively. To make sure that we are not missing out on the chance to do something to drive this pandemic back away from where it is right now. In a pretty dangerous surge, we can do this, and i hope that came across, that this was both a very forceful muscular approach, but it has a point. As a point of trying to get us passed this. This is how we can get there. I want to say, Rhonda Scent is said something the other day that i felt encapsulated, a line of thinking that has been consistent throughout. And has really caused massive havoc in this country. He said look, if its your decision about getting vaccinated doesnt affect me. Basically like what do you care when wear the other. And obviously i think you and other people feel differently. Explain why this is simply not an individual choice. Like whats he sure you put, on or what kind of music you. Like im glad to answer that. This is a place where i think a freedom is gotten misinterpreted. Freedom is about rights but its also about responsibilities. We are a free country where we take care of each other when our actions might hurt somebody else. If you are unvaccinated, and you are there much more likely to get infected with delta, and be asymptomatic quite likely for a couple of, days you are spreading that around. Two others around you. Including kids under 12. Who cannot be vaccinated. So its not just about you, for me, this is really an occasion to think about loving your neighbor. Not just yourself, thats with the president was trying to. Say if we really want to get through, this we have to figure out how those 80 Million people who still have not ruled up their sleeves, can see this as an opportunity and a responsibility, not just about them. You just mentioned, children i was looking at the statistics about. Children i want to put them up. Its striking, hear kids under 12 cannot get vaccinated. And the Vaccination Rates in lots of the part of the country is very low. We are seeing this huge divergence. When you talk about what the collective responsibility is. In states that are lightly vaccinated, you see these huge spikes in hospitalizations. And thats hospitalizations both for adults and kids under 18. You see it on the radio screen. The ten most vaccinated states, you basically see that flatline, for kids under 18. There is accountable number of children. Placed into direct danger. Such that peoples children, are getting put in the hospital with this thing, as a result of low Vaccination Rates. Indeed. People are concerned about kids under 12. And actually asking the fda would you please hurry up in approve vaccines for kids. Which i know they are doing everything they. Candace is they get the data. But if you want the kids to be safe, right now the best way to do so is surrounded by other vaccinated people. Theyre older siblings who are old enough to get the shot. Their parents, and of course if theyre going to school, avoid them catching it from another kid in the classroom. By wearing those masks. This all just makes such perfect sense. It just breaks my heart that somehow, something as simple as these Public Health measures were talking about right, now has turned into such a political fray. Its sort of found its way, into this dreadful circumstance we have a culture, war in this culture, in this case is killing people. Its not just a philosophical political argument, its killing people. Including im sad to say some children. We have to get past this, if we really have a future as a nation. In history will look back on this, and maybe i would like to, say particularly to those leaders who are on the wrong side of. This would lincoln said one time, citizens, we will not escape history, do you want to be looked at, in the lens of that backward look of ten years from now . And defend which he did . When in fact we are losing tens of thousands of lives that didnt have to die. Theres also another sort of public cost of this. Out beyond people that are making a decision for themselves, which is, the health system. I have heard from so many doctors and nurses, just in my sort of reporting, in anecdotally, about the level of burnout. And for a. Theres this theyre saying this Health Care System has collapsed. I know personally people that have walked away from the medical profession after. This theres a real worry that the whole system is running on very thin margins right now. It is, and the people who are on the frontlines. Gosh, they are heroic, they should not have had to be in the place they are in right now. They suffered greatly through last year when we had no vaccines. Doing the best they could. And now, im sure, they are wondering, why am i doing this again. When 90 plus of the people whose lives im trying to save our there because they didnt get vaccinated. And they didnt need to be here. Thats gotta be tough as a Health Care provider. And i know theyre doing the best they, can and i know theyre not going to complain, and they are sacrificing. But to have that be in the face of something that could have saved so many of these folks. It has to be very tough to get up in the morning and go to work as an Emergency Room Doctor and i see you doctor. Doctor francis collins. Thank you so much for coming. Back we would love to have you. Anytime glad to be with you chris, its a big day today. This is a big deal. I think so. So what does the president s move to require vaccines for tens of millions of workers across the country mean practically . Our Senior Business could spawn, It Host of stephanie reports, right here on msnbc joins me, now stephanie my understanding is this will be done through the department of. Labor and theres actually ferried straightforward existing workplace regulatory architecture to do this. Its not like some kind of crazy new test of the law. No this is something we have seen many president s who, used to protect us from things like airborne diseases, they are going to osha and theyre using this emergency safety, rule and really chris, its sort of a brilliant work around, from this administration, to get america vaccinated. Its been a three pronged, approach the government came up with a vaccine, the medical community educated us and now its businesses, they are the ones that hold the carrots, to get us vaccinated, what theyre doing with the labor department, this is going to impact over 80 Million people. And i can tell you, yes, are they going to be sued right off the bat . No doubt. But the message from corporate america to this way, houses yes, please, and thank you. It is the Air Cover that every ceo needed, to get Vaccine Mandates for their employees. Its what they want, because think, of if you are in a, business and so did. I and i said look im Gonna Put in place a vaccine mandate. And i have workers a dont want to do it. Will they make quick and go work for you. If you have more relaxed. Rules this way, It Levels the playing fields. And all of these businesses get to, say its not me its the government. Gotta get vaccinated. Its exactly what they wanted. In my crazy or is it still the case that you can vaccinate or test once. Week i was going to 30 rock every day, through the Fall And Winter, and we were there with other folks that were on it every, day and we are getting tested three four times a week. This is just forget about every politics. Par its just common. Sense you will have an indoor place where people are coming with a communicable disease, you better catch outbreaks. This seems, the fact that that option exists seems to be like, a slam dunk. Its a slam, dunk this is completely obvious, and think, about people getting tested, a few times a week, is cumbersome, its difficult, businesses just want to know, what are the exact, rules and i will foul, them having to decide, getting pushback from employees, is a headache they dont want to deal with, and its not just their employees. Think about all the businesses that have customers. You and i both have children under the age of 12. That are not vaccinated. But we are currently living lives are taking a lot more risks, than we did before we were vaccinated. We are bringing more risk into our houses. Thats worrisome. So the fact that they are putting these rules into place, is a good. Thing all of this is to help us get safer, in our own homes. We need to do it. And think, do you want to go to a store with your children right, now if you have no idea if the employees are vaccinated. No you dont. But if you know everyone is, you will absolutely frequent that, business and always, remember ceos are not voicing their political opinions through their companies. They want to make money. They want their employees to go to work. They do not want a huge absenteeism prism, and they want to make money, all of this will help us get safer in terms of our, health and help our economy get back on its, fee in a real way. That last point is also key here. Its also just the case that, actual suppression of the virus, is to everyones benefit. Whether you are a worker, or a boss, whether youre in a private sector in The Public sector. Getting to a world where we have 1000 new cases a day in this country. Where Community Transmission has been stamped out. Thats just a better World Winwin for everyone, including Fortune 500 ceos, trying to run businesses or hotel chains. Yes. They want their customers back. They want their employees coming to, work they want all of it, this is how we get there. And if you think of the other thing We Saw. Today you have three major companies, walmart, amazon, now selling at cost, reduced cost, so that theyre not making any money, these At Home Rapid tests. Also a gamechanger. And you have the government using the advanced production, act to start producing more and more tests, we have both experience, this we have the benefit of working a great company where we can easily get tested. But when you need to go get a test out, there its not, easy in the results take a while. Suddenly we have inexpensive rapid tests in our home, its going to make us a lot saver. We as a country, have a culture of going to work sick. We have little kids at, home as soon as we think they even have a little, something boom. If we can test them at home on a regular, basis and it doesnt cost as much, money thats huge. In the government did not subsidize it to the companies, you know, there are going to be some Farright Conspiracy Theorist who are going to say, will this is just big nibs is getting paid by the. Government know theyre not. It is not subsidized, theyre selling it at, cost but theyre putting Public Health first. Yes. We talked about this the other. Night rapid tests, can be a real gamechanger. Also dont go to work, sick even warmer out of this pandemic. Stephanie, thanks for making time tonight. Its no surprise, theres already an anti vexed backlash, the president s Announcement Today, just like about spin happening at School Districts around the company. Merely requiring masks for kids. Tonight just hours, ago the second largest School District in the entire country, just took a dramatic step and keeping Kids Safe. What happened in Los Angeles is next. Happened in Los Angeles I Next President Bidens Announcement Today extending Vaccine Mandates to tens of millions of workers is already facing a backlash, not surprisingly, Thats Nothing new, weve already seen backlash after backlash after backlash. All the way back to luis spring. Against all covid restrictions. And its been building for weeks, especially folks on mask when mandates in schools. As a new School Year begins around the country. We saw one of the first examples in early. Oxidant franklin tennessee, where parents hounded Health Care workers leaving a School Board meeting, where they advocated for a mask mandate. We know who you are, we know who you are. You can leave freely, but we will find you. We know who you are. We know who you are. We know you are. We know you. Our we call that speech and obey or something else, when you look at . That a couple weeks later republican candidate for a local office in Pennsylvania Straightup suggested removing Promass School boards by force. Were going in the School Boards and bring, data you go into the School Boards to remove. Them thats what you do. They dont follow the law. They dont follow the law, you go in and you remove, im im going in with chinese strongman, im gonna give them an option, they can lever, they can be removed. This week back in tennessee We Saw this truly gross display of anti mask adults. As a student shared her personal story of loss. This time last, year my grandmother who is a former teacher at the High School system, died of covid. Because Someone Wasnt wearing a mask. This is a very. [inaudible] also on tuesday, another pretty shocking display of parents in michigan, caught on video encouraging their children to violate a County Order and school minutes tour. Mask they can go in. Guys they can go. And go on in. Guys go in. They cant enforce it. You cannot touch. You just go ahead and go. And they Cant Touch. You go ahead and go in. Go ahead and go in. They cannot touch you. Just go in. Go in they Cant Touch you. This is happening all over the country. In school after, school and it remains the case that this loud anti Mask Or Faction are in the minority. Recent polling shows nearly 60 of americans, want Mask Mandates in school for teachers and students. Similar numbers were mandates for eligible students. Today, one of the largest School Districts in the country, Los Angeles, county took a bold stop in the direction of the majority. And President Bidens priorities where the School Board Voting to mandate vaccinations for all, students aged 12 and over. This woman is the president of the she just voted to enact that vaccine mandate. And she joins me now. Its great to have you on the program. First, talk me through the process, that led the School Board to this vote, this afternoon. Thank you for having me chris. Throughout the pandemic our School District has been at the forefront of covid safety, since we opened our campuses last. Spring through our weekly testing program. Vaccine mandate for all of our employees. And more. This step is really a continuation of that. Commitment to protecting our students, families and staff. This fellows or schools have reopened, despite all of those multi Layer Protection strategies. We are seeing increased case, rates due to the Delta Variant and outbreaks that our schools. So we know, if we want to keep our schools safe, and open, for students to learn and thrive, this is a necessary step, and vaccinations are the single best way to protect our students, individually and collectively, from the threat of covid19. Was it a unanimous vote . It was a unanimous vote yes. Whatss Parent Perception been like as you move towards this process . In the wake of the previewing of the Announcement Yesterday . Im a mom of two young kids myself. Too young to be vaccinated. And i know how hard. It is as a parent in this pandemic. To know exactly whats the best way to keep your children safe. We know, in a district ruizs 500,000. Kids not every family is going to agree with this step. And theres legitimate reasons why. Theres been intentional misinformation from people like Donald Trump and his allies. We know that are black and brown communities have experienced discrimination in the medical system in the past. And so its understandable that parents have legitimate questions and concerns, and we are in the answer. Them to have compassionate conversations with every family, so they know the, science in the facts about the vaccine. And they can meet this mandate when it kicks in january of 2022. It will be january 2022, are you also offering on Schools Site Vaccination . Will it be, or are you relying on the network that resists already . Absolutely, we have already provided opportunities to be vaccinated, all of our secondary schools, we relaunched mobile vaccination clinics, which are going to every middle and High School in the district. This fall. And we have community vaccination, clinics where students can get vaccinated as well as their family members. We really want to emphasize to our community, that these vaccines are free, theyre safe. Theyre effective, and it doesnt matter if you have health insurance, or way or immigrations that is. Is the vaccine is available to you at your local public school. Final question. This is just such an obvious, one but i have to ask. Its obviously the case that in the l. A. Unified School District, children in rolling already have a variety of vaccine requirements. Correct . Yes. There is a whole host of vaccine requirements, that they have to. Meets in order to come to our public schools. This is just adding to this tradition, of where we are requiring vaccinations, to keep our Kids Safe. In our communities safe. Okay kelly, i appreciate your compassion thank you so much for making time. Thank you for having me. Next, today is the first deadline for the sweeping Documents Request from the january six committee. And committee member Jamie Raskin is here to tell us what we can learn, after this. Us what we can learn, after this we can learn, after this on it, with jardiance. Theyre 22 Million prescriptions strong. Meet the people who are managing type 2 Diabetes And Heart risk with jardiance. Jardiance is a oncedaily pill that can reduce the risk of cardiovascular death for adults who also have known heart disease. So it could help save your life from a Heart Attack or stroke. And jardiance lowers a1c. Jardiance can cause serious Side Effects including dehydration, genital yeast or urinary tract infections, and sudden kidney problems. 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Just two months ago today, on New Zzzquil ultra. When you really really need to sleep. July 9th. The fencing around the capitol that had been put up in the aftermath of the January 6th attack finally begin to come down now, two months later, Law Enforcement officials are planning to put it back up because theres a new pro Trump Rally planned outside the capitol on september 18th. Further more than 600 members of the pro Trump Mob that were charged in the january six interaction. That these people claim are political prisoners. Remember, many of the people who stormed the capitol have been charged for attacking and injuring at least 140 police officers. With things like Metal Poles and bear spray. Not to mention that they are on tape, entering a building they cannot enter. On september 18th, those officers will mobilize again, to protect the capital, and all those inside. This is all happening is the Seditious Conspiracy charges, related to the January 6th attack. According to his Search Warrant serve Tuesday Night out a lawyer for the farright militia group. The january six committee does its work, to investigate the insurrection, and any role other lawmakers played in the attack. Congressman Jamie Raskin, democrat of maryland, serves on that January 6th select. Committees also lead house manager, the second impeachment of Donald Trump. And he joins me now. Congressman raskin, first, lets get an update on these documentary quest. I think theres two sets with different deadlines, but one of them, if im not mistaken, was today. Two federal agencies. Do you know the status of . That yes, it went out to the executive agencies. It was do not at the close of business, but just today. So we would expect documents to be flowing in all the way up until midnight through electronic transmission. Something that i found funny when i start covering congress in Capitol Hill, is that Capitol Hill works on deadlines away College Freshman due. Everything happens it literally the last second. If its midnight, its gonna come in midnight. Yes, well, in this case, its worth the wait. Theres so much that we are trying to find out. About the attack on the capital, in congress. And against Vice President pence. Im especially looking for all the evidence of coordination, among the different violent elements. And the planning that took place before hands. You dont knock over the u. S. Capital spontaneously one day. That requires a lot of planning. Millions of dollars of money, invested. And some real organization. To get to the bottom of. It , in the federal agency, youve got essentially a partner, you dont have enough lawsuits are stonewalling. The Document Production from the telecom companies, that may involve other members of Congress And Trump officials, is a little more off front. What is your view legally and constitutionally. About the legit is sea of that request, and its Status And Future . Well for one thing if you look at whats kevin with her the was objecting to, its silly what he objected to was a Document Preservation request. Where we told the companies to hang on to any documents that they have gone, of relevance to our investigation. And he said, if they comply with that there would be some kind of unspoken retaliation against them. If and when the republicans come back into power. Essentially hes saying, dont preserve the documents. If you preserve the documents, according to our request, that there will be held to pay on the other. And and its just absurd. But you have to ask yourself, this is what america needs to understand, why are these people continually trying to blockade, an investigation, into an attack against the congress . Why is their interest in trying to impede a congressional investigation . Which is illegal anyway. But why . What is it there covering up . Its an amazing thing. I dont think i realized, in this is probably on me for not carefully reading, there is a Document Preservation as opposed to a Document Production request. Him saying if you comply, there will be retaliation. To your point, just to make this clear. He saying destroy documents. Implicitly thats really saying. He right he saying, if you dont destroy the documents. We are going to exact revenge against you. So, im not quite sure mccarthy even understood that. I think theyre just lashing out at this point. But comparison to make. Isrsaying now. Ted cruz called itrrorism, he said they were domestic terrorists. Mccarthy was calling for the censure of Donald Trump. For actions taken that today, hes trying to completely Whitewash And Pretend were nothing at all. So, lindsey graham, said, all of us couldve died that way. One of them couldve gotten in with a bomb. Which of course is true. Because you had hundreds and hundreds of people, entering the u. S. Capitol, without going through security. Or having any background check. And of course, a lot of people thought that somebody was going to pull out a gun and start firing, which is alas how far too many violent incidents ended in the united states today. I would just like them to go back and look at what they were saying. Or just go back and look at what Donald Trumps lawyers were saying in the senate, when we brought the house impeachment over there. In his own lawyers, numerous sly represented that they would never have anything positive to say about the insurrection, and that they would do nothing but denouncing. Today of course theyre doing everything they can, to give comfort, to those people who were being tried, forofficers, and destroying federal property, in interfering with the federal proceeding, and so on. Finally, on the rally that is being plans, again, its sort of a strange, thing you dont want massive overreaction, its a public building. But at the same time, the last time there was an under, Reaction It Led to this catastrophic event. How are you thinking about how are folks thinking about this rally . Weve got a new capital police chief, of Montgomery County maryland. In this time of course, the Capitol Police will be ready. Backup forces will be ready. And Congress Isnt there. Theres no particular proceeding, that they could be disrupting. Some of the leaders of the proud boys apparently are saying, this is a false Flag Operation mentalities out criminal suspects, from January 6th. So some of the attendants. Nonetheless were planning for something really big, because Donald Trump, and his aligned forces, continue to embrace the insurrection. At this point, i hope i didnt have overly partisan, but we have a party of democracy in america, and we have a party of insurrection. And that is the choice that is confronting the american public today. Congressman Jamie Raskin. Thanks so much for your time. Its my pleasure. 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President Joe Biden will commemorate the solemn occasion by paying tribute to those three lost. In all three of the attack states on saturday. While President Barack Obama plans to visit 9 11 memorial in New York city. George w. Bush will address families of the victims of late 93, at their memorial there in pennsylvania. Donald trump will be at a casino in florida with don jr. Spending the 20th of anniversary of the tax doing live commentary of for a heavy weight boxing match. Now, this is well, it feels like a parody of the kind of thing Donald Trump would do, but its perfectly fitting for this disgraced ex president. Essentially exiled from places silently. Spend this occasion doing Boxing Commentary on payperview. Frankly, everyone is a part of his administration, which stumbled three year of this pandemic with no regard, should never be welcome in Places Society ever again. Particularly kellyanne conway. Kellyanne conway really deserves to be well shunned, for her years of brazen dishonesty, and service of Donald Trump. Like when she christened the new Trump Administration by courting the term, alternative facts, about the Crowd Size of the inauguration. Or when she criticize present obama, for letting the, Bowling Green massacre happened, under his watch. Which was news to people in Bowling Green, because no such event ever took place. Or when she misled the country about the criminal conspiracy surrounding the then president. Even though it was not her most dangerous and destructive lie. The secretary said this morning, that we are ramping up, were ramping up with why did they not do it was contained. It is being contained. Do you not think its being contained . You said its not being contained. So are you a Doctor Lawyer when youre saying its not being . Contained its you said something its not true. Its a farce. Away you just said something thats not true. Would you just said something its not being contained. Oh i dont know that was march 26 2020. 600,000 people have died since then. 600, 000, the size of nashville, lake if we dropped a nuclear bomb on nashville, thats the number of dead americans, because the pandemic was not contained. In no small part, because of kellyanne conways administrations failure, to properly prepare. But conway, well finally facing some semblance of consequence, you see as his presidency was coming to an, and Donald Trump appointed a number of his enablers and lackeys, Conway And Sean spicer. Remember that. Do that was like the inauguration Crowd Size. Dude to positions overseeing our conscience military academies. And the irony of course, is these are institutions builds on the foundations of strict covid offense and responsibility. Look at the air force academy, Which Conway was overseeing, on the board. Hundreds of students were punished earlier this year for cheating on exams. Two students were dismissed from the academy entirely, because there are consequences for dishonest and unethical behavior. Yesterday, biden decided to bring some consequences of his own against those employees for their unethical behavior. He told them to resign, and then he fired them. A clear message that those Who Peddled In lies and conspiracy for Donald Trump, should not be we did it again. Verizon has been named americas most reliable network by rootmetrics. And our customers rated us 1 for Network Quality in america according to j. D. Power. Number one in reliability, 16 times in a row. Most awarded for Network Quality, 27 times in a row. Proving once again that nobody builds networks like verizon. Thats why were building 5g right, thats why theres only one best network. This kind of scheme, to nullify the constitution of the united states, is one that all americans, whatever their politics or party, should fear. If it prevails, it may be a model for action in other areas. By other states. And with respect to other constitutional rights, and judicial precedents. Nor need one think long or hard to realize the damage that would be done to our society, if states were allowed to implement laws and empower private individuals to infringe on anothers, constitutionally protected rights in this way. That was the eternal general of the united states earlier today, announcing that he is throwing the full force of the department of justice at the state of texas, suing them over there near abortion ban. This comes a week after the supreme court refused to block the blatantly unConstitutional Law. In a five four decision, issued in the night. Push through by five conservative justices, including three trump appointees. This woman is a professor of Constitutional Law new Yorks University of, law she clicked for justice along with full, disclosure my wife, in melissa, i want to get in the substance, here but i was so struck by the wording. There were he says this is an effort to nullify federal law. I mean nullification is a particularly sharp, residents in constitutional history. There is a Nullification Crisis in the 18 twenties. That was the precursor to the civil war. It was a very strongly worded statement from garland today. It was a strongly worded statement. And im not sure it was entirely directed exclusively at The Public. I think ultimately attorney general garland recognizes that this lawsuit, is in some way bound for the supreme court. And the idea, that constitutional Law Baby Doll if, i had the protections of the constitution may be nullified, by a stay, i think hes trying to implore, the members of the court, to remember, this does not just end with abortion. This can go even further to the point where the constitution is nothing more than paper. The department of justice is seeking an injunction. And i just want to read from the suit here. The united states also seeks an order preliminarily and permanently enjoying the state of texas, including officers employees and agents, including private parties who had brings you under the law from implementing or invoicingesque be. Eight seems like theyre just going straight at the argument, that the five justices. Use theirs its a very novel approach. Again i think thats warranted. What texas is done is surely unorthodox. And this is the best way to. Meet at the united States Government has the authority to sue. States texas does not have Softener Media gets to sue from the united states. But the question here, is whether and including as agents of texas, even those private parties, who are authorized under the law, to enforce this law, theres still a question of we dont, know who exactly to enjoin, if we actually do issue an injunction blocking this law. Its all well and good to say were blocking texas but the real issue is how to stop those private parties from enforcing this law. , right it does seem theres a high likelihood of us getting a five four decision from the same set of justices, basically rejecting this. At one in the morning. But at some level, it kind of have to throw everything you have at it legally. After the united States Department of justice. I think texas definitely push the unveil open probably getting this statute, which is when weve never seen the likes of. Before i think the department of justice is similarly pushing the Avelo Pin trying to enforce. I think again, im speaking to all of those people over the last week, whove been inquiring the biden administration to do something to step in and intervene, to protect constitutional rights in texas. Are there other things the department of justice could do . The department of justice has some limited Years Diction here. Theres certainly the prospect that they floated earlier, about enforcing more robustly the Base Act of freedom, to access clinic entrance. Act that really isnt the issue here, the issue is not getting into clinics, its getting into clinics and getting the services that you require. Its also possible for the federal government to withhold federal funding from states that infringe about constitutional rights. Thats one avenue. But weve seen this kind of thing before in our history, and it reminds me a great deal of the situation after brown of bursts where the southern states drag their heels, about enforcing the integration mandate. And eventually, the united states supreme court stepped in a case called Cooper Versus Aaron to say, when the court enforces a Constitution And Interprets The constitution, those decisions take on the force of constitutional, law and you dont just get to ignore them. Or defy. Them they have to be obeyed. It was then left to the administration, John F. Kennedys administration, to write it as an hours, to step in and send the national guard into little, rock to enforce that mandate. The problem here, though is the court is saying, in your own precedent. Youve got the courts saying, out yes its unconstitutional, but we Cant Figure it. Out and basically throwing in the scrapheap themselves. That i think is the subtext of the attorney Generals Afternoon Press conference. I think he is talking to The Public surely, but i think hes also trying to impress upon the judiciary, that where does this . And if we allow the judiciary facilitate states and avoiding constitutional duties, where it is and. It does not end well. I think he was underscoring that point repeatedly. Melissa, as always, thank you so much, that was great. That is all in on this thursday. Night the Rachel Matter Show starts right. Now rachel good evening. Good Evening Chris thanks my. Friend much appreciated. And thanks to your home for joining us this hour. You started the summer of 1964. You go through the summer of thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. You start in the summer of 1964. You go through the summer of 1965, and you get to the whole shocking climax of the thing by the summer of 1966. It was a short period of time. It was worldshaking stuff, but it happened fast and definitively, and it all spooled out over the course of those two years, 64 to 66. Start in the summer of 64. July 1st, 1964, president lynn

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