In any sense. Today that all changed. Noting that the nation was in a quote, tough stretch of this pandemic. Biden laid out a series of new policies. The department of labor, is developing an emergency rule, to require all employers, with 100 or more employees, that together employ over 80 Million workers, to ensure their workforces are fully vaccinated. Or show a negative test it least once per week. Over 200 Million americans have gotten at least one shot. We have been patient. But our patience is wearing thin. And the refusal has cost all of us. This is not about freedom. Or personal choice. Its about protecting yourself, and those around you. Notably, vaccinations will also now be required for most federal workers. President also announced the tsa will double fines on Air Travelers refused to wear a mask while flying. All of this is happening as the Delta Variant drives our nations daily average caseload, north of 150,000. For the first time since the battle Days Bacon lynn january. Numbers are getting crushed by the virus is surging. And we are back to a daily Death Toll in this country of about 1500 souls. As of tonight, just over 53 of us are fully vaccinated. As he rolled out new vaccine requirements, biden also called out politicians on the right, who he says are preventing our country from ending the surge. The statement of american supported by us of elected officials, are keeping us from turning the corner. These Pandemic Politics is diary for, are making people sick. Causing unvaccinated people to die. We cannot allow these actions, to stand in the way. Local School Officials are trying to keep people safe, in a pandemic, well there governor picks a fight with them, and even threatens their salaries for their jobs. Talk about bullying a school. If they will not, help if the governors will help us beat the pandemic, i will use my power as president to get them out of the way. Just like, that to no one surprise, several republican governors have already expressed their outrage over bidens new rules, and staying on brands, republican national Committee Chair Mcdaniel says the party intends to sue the quotes, protect americans and their liberties. Late today another sweeping Vaccine Mandate was announced. Education officials in los angeles, say all students 12 and over, must be fully vaccinated by january. L. A. As you may, know the nations second largest school district, this is the first such move by a major city school system. As mentioned, the White House is also taking on the state of texas, over its new abortion law, which bans the procedure after six weeks. Justice Department Today sued the state of texas, stepping up the administrations fight against the nations most restrictive abortion ban. The obvious in expressly acknowledged intention of this statutory scheme, is to prevent women from exercising their constitutional rights in this kind of scheme, can nullify the Constitution Of The United States and its one that all americans, whatever their politics or party, should fear. If it prevails in we become a model for action in other areas by other states, and with respect to other constitutional rights and President S. As weve been talking about this Texas Law went into effect just over a week ago. Now after the Supreme Court refused to block it and by doing so, they effectively rolled over roe v. Wade which had been the standing law of the land. The liberal Justice Stephen Breyer who join the Minority And Voting against the decision, the losing side. Told npr it was quote a very very wrong. Theres also growing concern about planned rally to be held at the u. S. Capitol next saturdays, september 18. Demonstrators are expected to demand justice as they call out for the hundreds of people charged in connection with the January 6th insurrection, politico says Capitol Police officers will get a Briefing Tomorrow on security preparations. Cnbc reports the Capitol Police chief will brief congressional leaders on monday, about those same security plans. Congress is not going to be in session on the day of the rally, but one democratic member of the house said he is worried about what republicans are not saying, about this rally. I think we have to take it very seriously. I know these people, they post on Social Media, theyre dangerous, and whats most dangerous is the silence of republican leadership. They should be calling them up. Capitol police are said to be planning to reinstall all that fencing that was placed around the capital, little bit too late for january six, but ahead of next weeks rally, in just a few minutes ago a few minutes before we came On The Air the, House Committee investigating the insurrection revealed it has received thousands of pages of documents from government agencies. In response to its initial requests. A Committee Spokesman also says the National Review is reviewing The National Archives rather is reviewing president ial records, as part of this investigation. With that lets bring in our starting Front Line on this thursday night. And white House Correspondent for the pbs news hour. Moderator of Washington Week and also on pbs Cynthia Ochsner a former federal prosecutor in the civil Rights Division of the department of justice. And clint watts. West point graduate. Our former fbi special agent. In a distinguished Research Fellow at the foreign policy research institute. Good Evening And Welcome to all of you. Id like to start with you. In your beats the President Kind of famously waved off mandates as lee as this past spring, not knowing this many million americans were going to wave off the chance to get a vaccine. In your view covering the White House as you do wear to from here . We should also say and youre right, the president has waved off the idea of mandates. This is the President Saying we are no longer dealing with the carrot were gonna start pulling out the sticks, and the stick is going to be impacting 100 Million americans and two thirds of all workers in america. The president is essentially saying we are fed up and its going to come time for dire consequences for people who do not want to get vaccinated. White house officials senior administration officials are saying people are telling me theyre gonna face the consequences. Take for example federal orders. If your federal worker in the executive, branch you decide you do want to get vaccinated, im told youre going to face disciplinary actions, and youre going to have to go to hr. And eventually that can and possibly in termination. So what you have here really is the President Saying that the patience is over, weve been patient with people, now that the fda has approved at least one vaccine it is time to go get your shot. When i think is also important here, its aggressive in forceful speech the president has given, related to requiring people to encourage people to get vaccinated. This comes out of the idea that were in a scary moment in this country with kids more being more hospitalized with the coronavirus. And with people coming down and getting sicker and sicker. With people getting sick and saying they wish they have been vaccinated. This is the president really trying to urge people and say republicans, people who are downplaying this either because your ignorance or because of politics you, need to stop. Cynthia, i want to take you up to the northern plains. In play you something from South Dakota governor kristi noem. A Big Time trump or. Who with this comment stays on brand. Well discuss on the other side. Ill fight to protect my people. And to defend their freedoms. In fact it was shocked to me that the president actually said in his Speech Today that this wasnt about freedom and personal choice at all. Which i think is indicative of whats really in his heart and his agenda, that he has for this country. Listen, this is not a power that is delegated to the federal government. This is a power for states to decide. So, cynthia, is she writes or near rights on the law in your view . No shes not rated all. Think its interesting that she so caring about peoples personal rights. But has nothing to say about the unconstitutional trampling of rights for the women of texas. But shes not right, theres decades of laws supporting this decision by biden. They can follow all the lawsuits they want, ultimately in the Supreme Court, the biden administration will win on this one. So, cynthia, do you when you make an argument like that, do you factor in the fact that someone said tonight, members of the u. S. Military have over a dozen mandatory vaccinations in order to voluntarily serve our country. Is that the kind of linchpin that you use . There is all kinds of requirements, the federal government puts on, that states are not in a position to deal with. Anything from seatbelts to vaccinations to requirements that you wear a mask on an airplane. There are hundreds of them in this will not be an exception when its done because it is so affects the Health And Safety of americans, in particularly as we are starting school. And little kids are at school and now were about to have as their friend Steve Schmidt has called it, a pandemic of children. Its the childrens spike. Because theyre in school in their unprotected. I just, i think on this one, its so overwhelmingly clear that the biden administration is going to win. They can require the federal employees to get vaccinated. They can require contractors. They can withdraw funds from states that dont require vaccinations. They can require vaccinations on any federal transportation system. Theyre just in a very strong position here. So clint watts, the President S message well strong, bumps up against the Counter Message of the antivaccine community and all their helpers around the world. Tell our viewers what kind of chatter youre seeing in the antivax world of late, its been remarkable brian watching the conversions of people that you might not normally see hang out together in a physical place, but in online communities are quite the pals. From the far left traditional antivaccine communities, that are known in california in places like that. You see strong opposition to vaccine of all types, and i know this personally ive been dealing with my daughters autism, this was a strong strain in late 2000s. And then All The Way to the farright, those trump supporters that still dont believe that Donald Trump had a vaccine. Or that everyone at Fox News also had a vaccine. But continue to repeat this rhetoric over and over again. That really lines up again that nearly every conspiracy that you might imagine being converged. Thats from Bill Gates conspiracies, microchips, All The Way to affect surrounding future births. You can pretty much take the entire spectrum and throw it out there. In the one conduit that brings all this together is the farright Social Media. Its not even the main Social Media platforms much anymore, but the fringe farright. Their news channels, and their traditional sort of am broadcasting channels. It is that ecosystem of information, that is really stopping us in our tracks and getting past this pandemic over the last nine months. Yamiche, think about policy wise what weve been purporting since the top of the hour. Here just during our conversation. The biden administration, showing a new aggressiveness on vaccines. The biden administration via the Justice Department, showing a new aggressiveness, versus the state of texas. Is there a larger message in here . According to your reporting . Message in here accordinaccording to my reportiy conversations with White House officials, the larger messages that President Biden is going to fight for this country, both to protect people from the pandemic and also women from their right to choose what to do with their bodies. Democrats are in this position where they are holding all of this, even if it is by a small margin in the house and senate, they are facing a base that is looking at the republicans who are moving very quickly to take away rights and try to go with their agenda. Whether it is abortion, voting rights, policing or covid, they are expecting their party to step up and say, we are going to do something about this, we will push back. So what you heard from President Biden and also from merrick garland, the attorney general, was this tone to say, we understand what the assignment is, we are here, and we understand what americans and everyone everywhere is expecting of us. So this is the President Showing, yes i am emotional, yes i am the consoler in chief, but i am the Commander In Chief as well, i can stand up and fight for you. And show that i have some fire in my belly, when you have so many americans feeling anxious about all the things we are facing, including Abortion Rights and the pandemic. And cynthia, on one of those two topics, Abortion Rights, lets talk about the subject of choice. This Texas Law, controversial as it may be, was built to be an appeal level. Is there, in your view, a avenue for the Supreme Court to take a second swing at this . Or do they have to wait now for a similar Test Case as all of the downstream states are buoyed by this . The Red States who want to an act similar legislation . The Justice Department did a masterful Job Today and getting that done. What this lawsuit did its put the issue of row versus wade, squarely in front of the federal District Judge in the northern district of texas, an obama appointee. He will have the chance to look at a very soon. What they have asked that the law be declared invalid. And ask that it is stricken or certainly enjoined from being enforced. And protect the rights of people whose rights have been violated, who cannot get an abortion in texas. The Abortion Rule in texas now is essentially there essentially is no Abortion Rule. And the only way to get an abortion is to be rich enough to be able to get out of state. If you live in mcallen, texas, you may have to drive to albuquerque, and you have no children three children and no money, it creates a second Class Set of citizens in texas. They have your rights and women in the rest of the country. What we all hope is, that is lawsuit, which is masterfully done under the equal Protection Clause and the Supremacy Clause of the 14th amendment, that this will give an opportunity to get the Texas Law halted until the Supreme Court takes up the mississippi case. Or until this one moves quickly. The problem is, as i think we all know where this is going, is that ultimately, it goes to the trump Supreme Court. In a way, it tees up this battle about, is roe v. Wade really going to hold . Is it going to hold with the Supreme Court . And it tees that battle up and they bring it to a head sooner rather than later. Clint watts, you get the final word. Its about this capitol rally. Nine days away. I always say that you do your job so we dont have to. But every time i ask you about your day job, it is scary material, almost by nature. What kind of chatter are you hearing and seeing about this gathering in washington that everyone needs to know about . September 18th was more forceful, i think a week or so ago, brian, and thats largely due to leaders like Madison Cawthorn talking it up. You are starting to see them back away, as if they may not make it on september 18th. We will also see that large Law Enforcement Response prepared this time. And in the chatter in the online space, you are starting to see some say we need to back away from this event. But what that masks is, in diverting their attention to state capitals. In the discussions faces of the militia groups, we need to examine that more, because states and municipalities have less ability to detect and thwart this in terms of resources. The final one, brian, in terms of the White Supremacist space, what we are seeing significant discussion of aids refugees and Refugee Location centers coming back from afghanistan. While we have seen great bipartisanship in some states, many americans coming together, it is a Lightning Rod in the White Supremacist space. That is something we need to raise on our radar in coming months. You are right. And as advertised, truly scary stuff you end up with their. We are much obliged to our starting line, yamiche alcindor, clint watts, and cynthia alksne. Thanks for starting off our conversation. Coming up, the president warns patience is wearing thin, with the unvaccinated in this country. 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Physicians, pediatricians, gps, general practitioners, you are the most trusted medical voice to your patience. You may be the one person who can get someone to change their mind about being vaccinated. Tonight, i am asking each of you to reach out to your unvaccinated patients, over the next two weeks and make a personal appeal to them to get the shot. As this president now passionately lays out his plan to battle the virus, dr. Fauci warns that the current level of Virus Transmission is way too high. He told axios the following. Right now we are still in Pandemic Mode because we have 160,000 infections per day. Thats not even modestly good control. In a country of our size you cant be hanging around and having 100,000 infections a day. Youve got to get well below 10,000 before you start feeling comfortable. Thats a lot to talk about with our Guests Tonight Doctor irwin, founder of the Columbia Center for disaster preparedness, also a professor of pediatrics at Albert Einstein College of medicine. Full disclosure, the doctor was good enough to take our call, joined us late in the day and is in his car. In an uncontrolled pandemic, its about a safe studio i can imagine. Doctor, i want to hear you out on your view of the President S comments and his overall Tone And Aggressiveness today. Hi brian. And happy to join you even it for my car but i will say that this is an incredible your two clips were wonderfully interesting as a one to punch from the President And Dr. Fauci. Both of them aggressive. Both pulling no punches. And i agree with both of them but i want to say just a word about bidens Speech Today, which is that it was amazingly powerful, full frontal assaults on the pandemic. The likes of which we have not seen really since the last century when we took on smallpox or polio. What he did today was lay out a very detailed plan, doing literally everything that the federal government could possibly do too empower people to take this on. To make sure the companies and public agencies are doing what they can do. And then this final play that he made that we just heard the clip of. To the doctors of america, basically saying, do you this one last thing, go to your patience and tell them again how critical this is. I mean, its been nothing more heartbreaking to me than seeing people on their deathbeds wishing they had gotten the shot. And doctors and nurses at their wits and, trying to cope with this tragic Scene Day after day. Especially in those under vaccinated states where the virus really is running out of control, brian. Doctor, i have a two Part Question on antibodies. What do you make of people with means, with the Opportunity And Money to get Antibody Testing to determine whether they should get the third shot, the booster . And the second question on antibodies is this. If you had covid, maybe you knew about it, maybe not, but you are asymptomatic are you still walking around with the same Antibody Load as someone who survived a more virulent case . Absolutely ryan. A lot of this is really start not known. Its still being studied. As far as antibodies are concerned, there are a lot of ways of measuring of how strong your Immune System is. One is getting the regular antibiotics you can see in the bloodstream. But that is the type related to the spike proteins. The other thing is that there are other elements of the resistance of the Immune System that will not show up in serology. You have to look at T Cells and b cells. The more technical issues. You dont get a clear answer. If you need Antibody Testing, that should be something determined by your doctor. But we are headed towards Booster Shots for everyone, starting with the people most vulnerable. There is no question that that is coming. It is inevitable and i agree with it, brian. Knowing you as i do, the Wall Street Journal report this week, it has the concern you, that Flu Season this year is going to Come On earlier in the season and be stronger than recent years because we have not been out and about and in circulation as much. That much trouble you. It troubles me, but the other thing that has been odd about the regular influenza, that we are used to, is that the number of cases have been extremely low. That is because many of the measures we have taken to prevent the spread of covid has really help helped with the tamp down of the Influenza Epidemic so far. We will see what happens. There is reason for concern and there are so many things we have to keep in our sights now, brian, as this Flu Season begins to unfold in full force in the next couple of months. Not to mention that we are putting 55 Million children back in schools. And Labor Day Holiday weekend, a lot of different factors at play give us lots of reasons to be concerned. And to be vigilant, brian. Dr. Redlener, permission to turn off the Dome Light and continue wherever you are headed, with our wishes to have a good day and a good weekend ahead. Dr. Redlener our guest again tonight. Thanks. Coming up, he says he gets no points for being right on the subject of afghanistan. The oscar winning documentarian, Michael More, on The End of our nations longest war and then some. The some and lately ive seen this change in her. Onceweekly trulicity helps control your a1c. By helping your body release its own insulin. And it lowers Blood Sugar from the first dose. Trulicity is for type 2 diabetes. It isn t for people. With type 1 diabetes. It s not approved for use in children. Don t take trulicity if youre allergic to it,. You or your family have medullary thyroid cancer,. Or have multiple endocrine Neoplasia Syndrome Type 2. 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A Normal School day, 20 years ago this coming weekend ended up changing our country and our lives forever. Today some school students, who were just blocks away from the World Trade Center back then, are looking back on 9 11, and the enormous impact on their lives. Nbc news correspondent, who reported from Ground Zero following the 9 11 attacks, brings us their stories tonight. He was a defining moment in america. And for Kids Fps to 34. Only blocks from Ground Zero. It was something that absolutely changed my life its not me to recognize significant moments. All grown up doubt, these students were witnesses to history. Ten years later we visited ps 234, the moment was still haunting. And still is years. Later both of them also remember their teacher. As the woman holding all the kids together. She was like our. Mom now at a different location, with a bigger job, caring for a whole school. How has 9 11 informed how you act as a principle . 9 11 has had a real influence in the kind of leader i want to be, i Cant Fall apart, i have to move us forward, stepbystep. Both these students say the outpouring of support back then, help them move forward. Hannah works and City Governments and volunteers. I think my entire existence now, as an almost 30 year old woman, comes from the experience i had is an eight year old girl. Here on 9 11. A painful moment in time, turned into a spirit of giving. Extraordinary story, that grew out of that awful day. I want to pass along a programming note. My friend Nicole Wallace and i will be with you on the live on saturday morning, from Ground Zero in new york. That begins at 8 am eastern time. Its all a part of our special network wide coverage cold, america remembers, 20 years later. Another break for us. Michael more is Standing By after this. 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Passenger flight to depart kabul, since the You Terry landed in qatar later today, this flight was nonmilitary, it was actual not commercial airliner, those included americans, brits, canadians, italians, the qatari assistant Foreign Minister telling news another flight may take off as early as tomorrow. Back with us tonight, to talk about a broad range of subjects, michael moore, proud michigander. Host to the Podcast Rumble with michael. More recently launched a Sub Stack it will be hosting a free screening of his, Film Fahrenheit 9 11. Tomorrow at 9 pm eastern on the platform, Michael More. Com. Welcome back to the broadcast. And i want to start here, for people perhaps sensitive to, its who these days see a single line or a Poll Quote on an aggregator on their phone, who might have senior quote, saying that In The Ends, Osama Bin Laden one. What did you mean by that . I mean thats, his attack, their attack on 9 11, on this country, i dont know how they could have guessed, that we would stay in this war for 20 years. That we would spend 300 Million a day it was he some sort of maginnis say he figured out we would take away our own democratic rights, a constitutional, right the patriots, created Surveillance State where theres a camera on every corner. In this Country And Spying on each other. That we did not, we spent all of our time focused on the war on terror, in the money on this. That were not better off 20 years later, we have created a sort of self now we are at war with herself. We have this incredible division, that has turned violent. He must be smiling from his grave, wherever it is. Because what they could not do to us, we decided to do to ourselves. And George Bush used to say, we need to fight them. Over there. So we dont have to fight them here. And, we actually ended up happening was, yes we went over there to fight them, but bin laden, they couldve never attacked us or invaded our country and taken us over. In order to kill us they had to sucker us into coming over there. In putting our young men and women, our troops, on the sacrificial altar. And at the same time, all our country, to become what its become in these 20 years. Its so sad. And so i said, innocence, he may have lost the battle. He may as loftss life. Alqaeda is broken up. But In The End in a strange said sort of way, he won, because we have allowed this to happen to ourselves. Shame on us for that. I hope the lesson of this is that we never get ourselves into war again like this. Brian, 20 years ago, i was saying pretty much alone, most liberals were all behind the war. Bush it is 77 approval rating. It was myself, Congresswoman Barbara Leave from oakland california, who said no. Pretty much shot down, by our fellow americans. That did not want to hear this. And, are we safer . The real Homeland Security should be about how we take Care Of each. Other and how we spend our money for each other. And not on a war that, may have seemed right to some people at the, time lets go get them. I mean he is a mass murderer, Osama Bin Laden. But by the time we really organized ourselves to do, that in october or november, he had pretty much skedaddled. He was gone. He was out of the country. And we didnt have to stay. He left. And we stayed for 20 years. Yes, we famously had a shot. We came close. Now at least he is where he needs to be, and humanity is better off for. Its michael, im going to take a pause. Michael moore has agreed to stay with us. We will resume our conversation after this break. Coming up, we will talk to him about whats at stake for the president , as mr. Biden tries to advance this three and a half trillion dollar plan, to expands a Queen Thing we used to call, the social Safety Net in this country. 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The process of formerly drafting sections of joe bidens sweeping 3. 5 trillion dollar economic plan. As we mentioned before the break, still with us is Michael More. Fair warning, i hate interrupting but we are up against a hardhitting on this segment, but if you hear me interrupting and waving my arms, thats why. Im curious to hear from you, how important this money is to the american working class. And if your answer is very important, than the next question is, naturally, why isnt everyone whose name is going to be in a ballot on 2024 or 2022, lining up to vote for it . Because that used to be a measure of success as an elected representative, bringing Stuff Home that help your constituents, life, Health And Safety and the rest of it. [inaudible] they will get behind it because it is going to be good for the country, good for constituents. Good for their reelection. I cant imagine that they would not get behind this. [inaudible] i think most americans want childcare and they want their kids to be able to go to college. And they want as parents, to be able to take some time off and not lose money or their job. Thats what this is about. And it sounds i think, once this is passed. And once the average american starts receiving the benefits of all of these things that will make their life better, easier, safer, all of that will definitely help anybody who has problems behind them. So i guess i have i am not usually an optimist, but i am on this. I think people will come around because they have to come around. Im telling you, brian, this bill, it is such a gamechanger for this country. It will turn this country we will go around the corner like we never have gone before. And you have are people taking Care Of, to have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, its right there in our original document. And people have to suffer, they live from paycheck to paycheck. 40 of people in this country do not have more than 400 to their name, on any given day. This is not the country that is a proponent of the american dream. This is not a dream. A lot of people have been living in a nightmare. And we need to turn this around. I think that this is what the biden plan is going to do. Why not . Why wouldnt we . We would spend all of that money on war. We are willing to spend all of that money on all these other things that do not help us. Thank god we have a President And Commander in chief who stood there in front of Cameras Today and said, im sorry, i just ended one endless war. I am not over The Endless war of covid. I am bringing this to an end. Everyone watching me, you are going to get vaccinated. We have proven that it is safe. For those of you who are not getting a shot for political reasons, im sorry for you, i hope you come around. But if he is able to pursue what he just said, this afternoon, where we can get another 80 to 100 Million americans vaccinated, man, we can get through this. We can turn this around. This is the guy and listen, i didnt vote for him in the michigan primary. I voted for bernie. But he has so impressed me in how he is not backing down, that is not walk it back. And we should all get behind this. The plan is a good plan. And we need this now more than ever. Michael, i have 60 seconds remaining. Can you hazard a guess, if our Parents Generation has had the level of anti vaccine sentiment when it came time for jonas when salk it came time to cure polio in this country . Oh no. I think if they saw this they would not understand it. They would say, what has gone wrong with people . What is wrong with them . One thing that we are all should be thinking about is our children. We want to protect the next generation, the old people, and the fact that the children are now starting to suffer from this. Who are we . What have we become . Yeah. I mean, like biden says, Come On man. Yes. That used to be the idea, that used to be the american ideal. We have changed and things have changed around us. Thats why we have you on from time to time to sum it all up. Michael moore has been our guest tonight. Thank you for being with us. Coming up for us, sometimes it takes a big man to deliver a tough message. Right now, that would rule out most republican governors. Republican governors. Last thing before we go tonight is about West Virginia. It is a state of stunning physical beauty and tough people, some of whom have only known tough times during their lifetimes. Back when so where they. But the national economy has been especially cruel to West Virginia. They rank first in the nation in Opioid Use and deaths from it per capita. In poverty they ranked sixth illumination. Obesity, they ranked second. Education they rank 45th, fifth from the bottom. And in vaccinations they ranked 47th out of 50 states. If you buy into the theory that democrats have become the whole Foods Party and have forgotten how to speak american, well, West Virginia is the living proof of that theory. Trump carried the state twice by just under 70 points each time. That may help explain why Joe Manchin is the most republican democrat in washington. National democrats have stopped in West Virginia, jfk and rfk come to mind, two guys from new England Campaigning in Books Brother suits. Hillary clinton famously promised green new jobs to out of Work Coal miners. And they are still waiting on those. Jim justice is the republican governor of West Virginia. And as a Billionaire Businessman he also happens to be the wealthiest man in the whole states. But he speaks West Virginia because he is from there. With the bering of an Appellation Sheriff in the seventies movie, the kind of character who would have dialogue like, you are not from around here, on to . He uses that exact bearing to get his point across. And unlike his Counterparts Desantis and abbott, he wants to seem to get his constituents to get vaccinated. Get vaccinated. Absolutely getting yourself vaccinated, we are running out of time. A bunch of people will die. I dont know how we can be more explicit. Oh boy. More people will die. All you are doing is entering the death draw. What in the world . I mean, i would run over on top of somebody. Death after death after death if we dont get ourselves vaccinated. For god sakes, how difficult is this to understand . Why in the world do we have to come up with these crazy ideas and they are crazy ideas. That the vaccines have something in it. And its tracing people wherever they go. And the same very people saying that are carrying their cellphones around. I mean, Come On, Come On. You heard the man. For god sakes, West Virginia governor, jim justice, to take us off the air. And with that that is our broadcast on this thursday evening. Along with our thanks for being with us, on behalf of all of our colleagues at msnbc news, goodnight. Goodnight. Tonight on all in. My message to Unvaccinated Americans is this. What more is there to wait for . The President Speaks up and acts out for the silent majority. We have been patient. But our patience is wearing thin. And your refusal has cost all of us. Tonight, the White House goes big to defend the Delta Curve with Nih Director francis collins. Today, after a careful assessment of the facts and the law, the Justice Department has filed a lawsuit against the state of texas. With the Doj Lawsuit means for