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Normal. It should not be normal. But to be able to, to be on that plane landed, get past, and take off. A thought for all of those pilots and copilots, inflate attendants and everybody on those planes whos helping people get to freedom tonight. Thank you for telling us about that. Exactly. You have to believe that this is got to be volunteers. You win you couldnt put somebody in this circumstance. And tell him its part of their job as people who must have volunteer for. This despite those dangers. In its absolutely unprecedented and intense situation there. The fact that this may happen on a daily basis going forward, is gonna make it all the more remarkable. Im glad you pointed that. Out have yourself a great evening and well see you the big friday tonight. Thanks rachel. Thank. Sally President Biden striking back at republicans, hes calling out their efforts to for our own ten zip persistence, extend the coronavirus pandemic. Which we are going to get to later in this hour. Lots of development in the fight against covid. Hes also taking against some of these republicans to court. Open defiance of the constitution, and quote, thats how the Justice Department described the texas abortion ban. In a Brandnew Lawsuit that argues, that the legislation is unconstitutional, and should be struck down. This is the first major move against this law from the biden administration. Attorney general Merrick Garland said the law, which bans abortions after six, weeks which is before women know that they are pregnant. With no exceptions for rape or incest. Violates Supreme Court precedent. By denying women their constitutional rights. He said the provision that effectively deputizes private citizens, to be bound to hunters, was an unprecedented scheme, to evade responsibility. This kind of scheme. To nullify the constitution of the united states. Is one that all americans, whatever their politics or party, should fear. If it prevails. And we become a model for action in other areas. By other states. Thats the point. One should be fearful of, this regardless of where you stand on abortion. The Supreme Court ruled on the constitutionality of the Texas Law, but the Disservice Majority on the Supreme Court, allowed it to go into effect anyway. Justice Stephen Breyer told npr today, that he thought the majority was very very wrong, to do that. Its easy to see. Why most Abortion Providers in texas have now already closed their, doors out of fear of being sued by vigilantes. Or worse. The texas antiabortion law, allows anyone to become a citizen bounty hunter, able to take Abortion Law Enforcement into their own hands. And it comes at a time when we are seeing a massive increase in political violence in america. Almost exclusively fueled by the rights. Some reminders, january 6th, a violent mob hundred Members Of Congress and brutally attacked police. A rally later this month, in washington, september 18. In support of the jailed insurrectionists. That many are worried would bring more violence. Parents across this country, harassing educators and Health Care workers who advocate for wearing masks in schools. You will remember theres a plot to kidnap the governor of michigan, because of the covid restrictions she put in. Placed public officials are being targeted at their, homes over election lies. In reuters just identified more than 100 and threats of death or violence, against election officials, inspired by trumps lies. Texas is already codified violence in its republican supporter which empowers partisan, armed poll ruptures two Poll Locations and intimidate voters. Now its quantify vigilante justice, by incentivizing just right wing anti abortion extremist, to go after anyone they choose, and potentially claim a bounty. Its hard for some of us to fathom, especially those whove never known the united states, before roe v. Wade. But this ban is having a real impact on real americans. Not everybody is going to be equally burdened by, as Abortion Providers point out to the texas tribune. Quote. The new restrictions wont establishing De Facto ban on abortion, for all texans. Instead they argue, State Lawmakers have created a system, that will most heavily affects teenagers, and texans with disabilities, as well as further disadvantaged poor women of color and quote. This republican ban will hurt the women who need the help the most. And now, laws just like it may soon hurt the same groups and other states. The Washington Post reports that republican officials in at least seven states, including arkansas, florida, south carolina, in south dakota, have suggested they may review or amend their states laws, to Mirror Texas is legislation. Kentucky, louisiana, oklahoma, ohio, and more are expected to follow. Attorney general garland vowed to fight similar lawsuits against states that copy the texas ban. The obvious and acknowledged extension of this statutory scheme, is to prevent women from exercising their constitutional rights, that the united states has the authority and the responsibility to ensure, that no state can deprive individuals of their constitutional rights. Through a legislative scheme. Specifically designed to prevent the vindication of those rights. Leading off our discussion tonight, Texas State Representative jasmine crockett. Shes a civil rights attorney, and joyce vance, a former federal prosecutor, a prosecutor at a msnbc legal contributor. Thank you to both of you for joining us tonight. Representative crockett, weve had opportunities to speak in the last few, months many of them about the Voter Suppression laws in texas. But now weve got this, which took some people by surprise. We didnt think this Texas Law would be the one that the Supreme Court would stumble over, but here we have it. And that point that Abortion Providers are made to the texas tribune, it does not affect everybody. Women with means will still be able to go to another state, ultimately another, country but women of limited means, poor women. Poor families. They will be the ones affected by. This because they will not risk somebody getting fines or being taken to task by these vigilantes, who are now empowered by this law. No, youre absolutely right. First of a good evening to you. And this is a story of the haves versus the have knots. Thats where we continue to see out of the state of, texas is that we want to make sure that the privileged few. Are literally that few. And so were going to have people that are in financially strange situations, they are going to i know theres been a big debate about rate, but you will have people in very desperate situations for very different. Reasons and they are not going to be able to access the Health Care that we need. Would i need the republicans would do is abortions Health Care. They stay with me. Guys i know its hard for you to understand. Because you failed to possess a universe. But maybe you should start listening to those of us that do. Thats a wise point to make. Joyce. Fancy row a column two days ago, which i have tweeted, out because whats happened in texas, visavis the supreme, is complicated, theres a lot of nuances to it. And then what is happened today with the department of justice, is also complicated, because Theres Discussion of the merits of roe v. Wade. And the Texas Law. And then theres this discussion of Processing Procedure in what Mayor Garland calls a scheme. Im going to ask you, in a limited way in which we can do on television. To explain what the department of justice is now doing. In the face of what happened at the Supreme Court last week. Youre right allie. This is a little bit nuanced. But maybe this will help folks understand. What doj did today, was they through the supreme Courts Decision in the case last week, back in its place. Last week the Supreme Court said, she weve never seen this sort of private Enforcement Scheme before. Where texas has turned anyone who wants to be. A vigilante against abortion. Into a vigilante. Who can go out and find these. Women and plame a 10,000dollar bounty if they sue the people around them. Who aided and abetted them and having an abortion. The Supreme Court just said yeah texas, you outsmarted. Us were not going to keep this law from going into effect. Because we dont know how to respond to this novel approach that you have taken. Would dojs response today, was very clear. They said, because, texas has effectively targeted the Supreme Courts hands with these private plaintiffs, who wanted to challenge the abortion law, doj has standing, has the ability, has the legal authority to step in, and challenge the provision. They made their case that much stronger, because of what the Supreme Court did last week. Representative crockett, texas has not seized to surprise us a lot. In recent months, weve become accustomed to some of the weird stuff that goes on in texas. What are things that are most interesting you mention this in your last response, to me about rate, theres some weird conversations going on about rape. And particularly pregnancies that result from rape. Your governor has said, thats okay. We will just eliminate rape. Which is a fantastic goal. But it is a little confounding that that was his response. It was flippant. And it was ridiculous, and the sad part is, this was part of his priority agenda. So he shouldve had an actual response ready. Whatever that was going to be. But we know, this idea that he can wave a Magic Wand and somehow get rid of rape. My question to the governors. Well why havent you gotten rid of right before. And you need to tell everybody else in this country how to do it. What we do know, is when it comes to policies, there is no money that the governor has actually prioritize, for the purpose of Processing Rape kits. We know that hes not prioritized rates in general. And honestly when you start talking about a rape. Kate what is that. Mean that means the rape is already occurred. And so this idea that hes somehow is now all knowing some guy. Is going to be able to get rid of something that has existed since the beginning of. Time is absolutely ridiculous. And honestly. We should all be ashamed. That this is the leader of the second largest state in this country. And these are the type of responses that we get about something that is so fundamental as a constitutional right. We should be ashamed of this man was on her Supreme Court. We should be ashamed that this man was our Attorney General. He obviously doesnt understand the basics of constitutional law, and therefore he never shouldve had those positions, honestly i cant wait for someone to kick him out in this upcoming election. Joyce vance, there are other issues the department of justice is. Making one of them has to do as Representative Crockett just said, about constitutionality. And about something called the supremacy clause. Could you explain to me what the department of justice is saying about the fact that the federal government, in our, case has a planned on the legality of abortion. What do they want done about this . Doj is relying on constitutional principles. That say that when the federal government has occupied the space. Occupied this area as they allege they have in this complaints. With the 14th Amendment on the roe v. Wade. Guaranteed to women of an abortion rights, the state cannot interfere with those rights. That that would violate the supremacy, laws theres really good Case Law that supports this alley. It goes back to the 19, in the 19 fifties. Where there were confidence, prohibited people who were african american. From purchasing homes, and ultimately when private residents sued to try to enforce those, the Supreme Court said, thats too much, stage you Cant Use private citizens. In this case it was missouri, you Cant Use your private citizens to try to enforce these unconstitutionally aims. Doj will draw a straight line from that wellestablished body of Case Law, and use that to make the argument here, that texas cannot use private citizens to enforce its unconstitutional gains. Clear on a lot of this, because of the two of you. Tonight thank you for joining. Us Texas State Representative jasmine crock, enjoys fans. We appreciate your time. Coming, up big news on the fight against the delta variant. 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Instead of encouraging people to get vaccinated and mask up, theyre ordering mobile morgues, for the unvaccinated who died from covid in their communities. This is totally unacceptable. The president s missions to republican governors and gop activists pushing antipublic health policies, was just as harsh. The path ahead, even with the delta variant, is not nearly as bad as last winter. What makes it incredibly more frustrating, is that we have the tools to combat covid19, in a distinct print of americans of elected officials, are keeping us from turning the corner. These Pandemic Politics is i referred to, them are making people sick. Causing unvaccinated people to die. We cannot allow these actions, to stand in the way of protecting the large majority of americans. Who have done their part, they want to get back to life as normal. In short, a vocal conservative minorities extend the length of this pandemic. The president is fighting back, today he announced new vaccine mandates, for all federal workers. Millions of federal Government Contract workers. More than 17 Million hospital, home Health Care and other medical workers. And employers with a 100 or more workers. These businesses will either force their employees to get vaccinated, or have those unvaccinated employees, undergo weekly covid testing. Joining me now is my former partner in crime. Stephanie, Nbc News Business Correspondent and senior Business Correspondent, and host of the 9 Am Hour here on msnbc. Steph, i have seen Press Releases going out from companies, organizations, some not loving this. Most overwhelmingly are embracing. This most companies want this cover. Theyve been trying to figure out how to get their employees vaccinated, now the federal government has extended that awning over them a little bit more. Bingo, yahtzee, amen and hallelujah. Is this administration going to get sued for this . Sure without a doubt. But bet your Bottom Dollar these lawsuits are not going to go. Far overwhelmingly, the Business Community is saying, thank you for the air cover. This is what they want. Remember, ceos are not political. And if they, are they keep politics to their own private life. They want to get business done. They want customers to want to do business with, them they want their employees in their offices. And safe, and they know that this is the way to do. It by the administration, excuse me. The Labor Department really. In acting this, it gives companies the ability to, say im not asking you to do, its the law. And remember, because its osha, they can find a company, they are the regulator. It can actually cost them, it can hurt their bottom line. They want covid behind. Us so they can move forward, so if we want to move forward and be healthy as a, country and have our economy be healthy, this is the fastest way to, do it we have to remember, theres a three pronged approach, the government developed the vaccine. The medical community are the ones who educated us. And its businesses who hold the carrot, to influence the majority of the american people to actually get vaccinated, and thats how were going to move. On i think that makes a lot. Isnt stuff good to see. People always treat, me why are you and stephanie not on tv together. We are going to be together for the 11 30 to 2. Well theres. That will be together from 11 32 eastern on saturday, for the commemoration of 9 11. Im looking forward to being back with you my friend. Thank you. There is Nobody Id rather do it. With thanks. Joining us now is representative kim Trier Democrat from washington, state shes the first pediatrician, to become a member of congress. And Doctor Patel, former msnbc medical contributor, and someone i relied on four years for Health Policy discussions. Thanks to both of you for being here. Representative shrine are, thank you for being, here hallelujah. We have a pediatrician on congress. This is who happen to also be legislators, to say we are in a really unique issue in this country. In that we can we are not able to vaccinate our youngest. They have to go to school. So we, the rest of us who can get vaccines need to do our utmost to protect. Them they are not immune from covid. And they are not immune from dying of covid. That is exactly right. I want to thank you for saying that because i was listening to President Biden talk about this being a pandemic of the unvaccinated. And i was thinking in my pediatrician head, and also of children. Because they are susceptible to all the choices we all make. They have not, they dont even have the option of being vaccinated, so they are really at the win, of how responsible we all decide to be. All this stuff that happened today, it might seem incremental, certainly to a lot of my viewers who are not vaccinated. Who are wondering why this all has to happen. But when you are taken, together all federal, workers federal contractors, companies with more than 100 people, thats a big move, there are a whole lot of people who Tomorrow Morning are going to say, if youre part of my organization. You need to get vaccinated or be subject to a whole lot of testing. Ali i can confidently tell you this might go down as the single most important action to help decrease the pandemic and put the worst of us behind. That we are not going to eliminated of course, but i actually think with the president did today, and its so much more than even we have the time to cover it and peel it away, the mandates and teachers and school officials. Who were withheld for salaries just because they stood up for mask. Theres so much there. I do think that this plan today, could define a moments. I thought it would be when the vaccines were discovered in approved, and researched. It with this will definitely go down in history, but this will be one of the president s actions that will go down in history for helping us beat this pandemic. One of the things that happened doctor, this evening, is we heard from the uniformed school district, one of the largest in the country, that they are going to require all students 12 and older to be vaccinated, against covid19. Talk to me about, theres a patchwork of things going on in schools on this country, some are openly defining their governors who say we cant have mask mandates. What is successful calling for schools across the country right now . First let me just say bravo to l. A. For unifying. I think its a really smart decision. Theyre looking out for the best interests of their students. I was just actually meeting with them yesterday and im excited to see this progress. Look, we require all kinds of vaccinations to go to school. Chicken pox, measles, month have be, theyre all required in covid right, now is the single biggest threat to our children, and should absolutely be required. How much coverage, stuffing and i were just talking about this, the stuff to happen today has given cover to some companies, that want people to be vaccinated. How much does it break the back of the resistance . Because at some point, it needs to stop rate . People have to figure, out if you want to function in this, world we want to move, forward we have to do that. The president was very firm, about where the resistance, i think theres always some legitimate restrictions to vaccination and drugs, but the president was very, clear a lot of this is politicized. Does this make a difference . Is it going to stop making people sit there and say im gonna get vaccinated . I think it is ali, if we go to other countries where they had something similar, france, italy, greece. Parts of the uk. Ireland. Where these types of requirements or mandates have really been effective in overcoming the resistance, initially in many countries, but in the united states. Were going to continue to see the gop outcry, people who are saying no you Cant Force us to do this. Its government overreach. I can promise you, as people see cases dropping, less children and icus, in schools opening in laughter of children all around, us in a normal workplace environment, that resistance is going to be overcome. I will say, he didnt go far enough if you added, i wouldve loved to have seen him, i know it was a step too far, to have a domestic Travel Mandate for vaccination. To actually do it new York City is doing, where a lot of leisurely activity, that we all want to be a part of immediately, require vaccination. But you noah, i think the president actually today gave more municipalities and your point, private entities. The authority to do that. Ive gone to restaurants in new york this week, where theyve asked me for proof of vaccinations. I just feel safer in the environment as a result of them doing. That doctor, i do want to ask, you the president is drawing a bit of a distinction between people who have hesitancy, or reasons to not want the vaccine, and i dont know how you say up lately, bs. The horse deworming nonsense, and all of this kind of stuff. I dont know whats you in congress can do about this. But Disinformation And Misinformation is ruining our democracy, its affecting our elections. But its actually killing people right now. It is incredibly frustrating. Especially as a pediatrician, to see, this in 20 years as a pediatrician, i have met with lots and lots of parents, who were anxious about vaccines. And we sat down and had conversations, and build trust. And we got those children vaccinated. This is a whole different animal. What i would love to see frankly, is for everybody whos worried about the vaccine, to just get in touch with their doctor. Talk to their trusted physician. Who they developed a relationship with. And get the information from them. Not from crazy online. That is good advice. Thanks to both you for being. Here Doctor Schrier is a united States Member of congress, and Doctor Patel is the former member of the Obama White House policy director. In an msnbc medical contributor. Coming, up his good public Health Policy make for good politics . We will ask the Democrat And Chart of helping democrats keep the house in 2022. Thats next. Ee the house in 2022. Thats next. Thats next. 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Officials are trying to keep children safe in a pandemic while they are governor picks a fight with them. And even threatens their salaries or jobs. These governors wont help us beat the pandemic. I will use my power as president to get them out of the way. President biden is making sure that american voters know exactly who is preventing us from getting out of this pandemic. People unvaccinated by choice and republican leaders who are actively putting people, including not eligible children, at risk. He suggested President Trump suggested that people inject bleach into themselves and now some conservative media are suggesting course the warmer will address covid. But america is not a 50 50 country. The people screaming about Flight Attendants are out of step with what most americans want, which is not to get covid. 75 of adults have received at least one vaccine shot. 70 of parents are okay with k to 12 children wearing masks in schools. You cant get 70 of people to agree on anything in this country, including what it is. These are huge majorities, in a polarized electorate, and it may be why democrats have decided to directly confront Republicans Obstruction to ending this pandemic. Joining us now is Congressman Sean Patrick maloney, chair of the democratic congressional campaign committee. Good to see you, congressman. Republicans are betting on the fact that americans are wary of pandemic restrictions and masks and mandates. And i think democrats are betting that americans are wary of coronavirus. Well, would i am willing to bet is that, people who want this government to do what it takes two and a pandemic. And they understand that the reason we are dealing with this is that a bunch of americans have been fed a lie by the former president and his friends in the media, first about how serious this pandemic was, because they never took it seriously enough. Secondly, about the importance of mask wearing, they are still fighting that. Most recently they have been undermining our efforts to get people vaccinated. So enough, im glad to see the president strengthen the requirements. I think its past due and i think its our job to make sure that people understand that the republican party has been reckless and irresponsible in the pandemic. And they have been feeding alive for millions of americans who unfortunately have believed it. Thats why we are still dealing with the pandemic. You are on the Transportation And Infrastructure committee, one of the few things that republicans and democrats were able to come together on, to talk about infrastructure. Now we have the second bill, which a whole bunch of democrats did not want to get done. They wanted it to get done ahead of the infrastructure bill. We have people, including one of your frontline colleagues, Stephanie Murphy of florida, we says she is not ready to vote on this bill. She tweeted the full text of the Ways And Means portion of the bill, since it is lacking, i cannot make an informed decision. Talk to me and your job, which is responsible for keeping the house majority, how you moderate this matter. Between some moderate democrats and some Progressive Democrats who dont want the same thing. Well, let me give you a guide to the whole thing. Which is, democrats are going to deliver. There was a recent Back And Forth between some of our own members about the best way forward. In the end, what happened . 100 of us came together and voted to advance the president s agenda. We are going to deliver results. Members have all kinds of opinions and that is as it should be. They are all going to get a chance to voice them. But we are going to pass this infrastructure bill, it will be done on a bipartisan basis. And we will pass the build back better plan so we invest in prek, childcare and make the Child Tax Credit permanent. 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We have dozens of people dead here in new york. Failing infrastructure, Climate Change events that are becoming more and more evident every day. What we are going to do is focus on real problems like that and we will get them done. The Military Guy Say is that the only way out is through. The only way out of these problems is politically, to deliver on policy and get results for the american people. To go big, do it now, to make sure people feel it and tell them that we did it. And make sure that they know that the Red Team has lost their minds and they are engaged in things that are racist and violent and dangerous, like Conspiracy Theories and the kinds of nonsense we have seen from that party. But we will fix Heart Problems and we are going to do it because it is the right thing to do. We will do it because it is the best politics in the. And congressman, good to see you, thanks for joining us. My pleasure. Congressman sean patrick maloney. 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Kick pain in the aspercreme. Republicans can conduct fake audits and recounts and rerecounts until the 2024 president ial election. But they wont find widespread Voter Fraud from the 2020 election because it doesnt exist. Theres simply wasnt. Many republicans know that, there are still fighting the results because the twice impeached former president wants them to. Today pennsylvania republicans held a hearing about, quote, an investigation of the 2020 general election, and quote. An investigation only open because Donald Trump push them to open it. Republicans in arizona began their Partisan Review of ballots in maricopa county, arizona, the Secretary Of State there referred to it as a fraud audit. Because it was not legitimate, just a spectacle to modify trump. The Philadelphia Enquirer is refusing to play the democracy destroying game again by the gop. The enquirer is not currently referring to attempts by pennsylvania republicans to investigate the 2020 president ial election as an audit because there is no indication that it was followed the Best Practices or common understanding of an audit among non partisan experts. When asked by the enquirer, lawmakers leading the effort to have a not explain how it would actually be run, including whether Best Practices would be followed, who would be involved, including what role partisan politicians would play, how the review would be documented. How election and ballots would be secured and whats the scope of any review would be. Joe biden won pennsylvania by more than 80,000 votes. And quote. Joining us now, pennsylvania Attorney General josh shapiro. Thats actually a good start, if Media Organizations around the country decided to call the bleep out for what it is, these are not audits. They are nonsense. They are absolutely nonsense. Katie hobbs is right, its a fraud audit. I think its a charade in a sham. I think what is important for pennsylvanians to know is that these republican pennsylvania senators are using Taxpayer Dollars to undermine the faith in our democracy with a charade. Ive been hearing for weeks, actually months, that this would be some kind of big blockbuster hearing today. Instead, Todays Hearing was a complete and total doug. It produced zero evidence in their attempts to satisfy the very people that they have been lying to for the last ten months. Lets show our viewers what we mean. Lets play a little bit from this hearing. What you will hear from is the Fulton County Pennsylvania commissioner, stewart, a republican and the state senator, vincent hughes, a democrat. Alsh was the first person to testify. Lets hear a little of the exchange. Was there any fraud found in the votes in the investigation . The nothing was found, everything was ran in fulton county, square, opened up, no fraudulent voting. Thats with the report has yes. Thats with the report says. Well thats not a wildly successful first outing for the investigation into the 2020 election. No, but first of all that was a great question by senator hughes. And that is that there was no fraud in this election. That we had a free and fair safe, and secure election that Joe Biden won by just over 80,000 votes. The problem is, these republican State Senators continue to put conspiracies in front of our state constitution. Continue to put important issues like climate Change And Job creation and educating our kids, dealing with gun violence, on the backburner. So they can instead focus on perpetuating the Big Lie. Understand that before they had these hearings, they didnt check with the taxpayers. Theyd inject with the people. They checked with Donald Trump. And i asked him if he was comfortable with the direction that they were going in. Now they find themselves caught in the middle of their newsmax talking points. The reality of what happened here in pennsylvania. Again, that we had a free and fair safe and secure election. A lot of people say, look, not going to happen. What you are seeing in texas or Arizona Cant happen in pennsylvania, as you do not have a republican governor who will let this go through. A democratic governor who is not going to let some of this nonsense go through. But thats not really the right assurance we should be having. We need to figure out ways to not entertain this kind of nonsense. Because at some point, in every state, there will be a democratic governor or not. Thats not the point. The point is, how do we prevent absolutely unlawful, mythical, madeup stuff from possibly coming close to becoming law . Coming by speaking Truth And T giving these folks who continue to perpetuate the Big Lie a platform to share it. Look, they have been Spoon Feeding lies to the good people of pennsylvania for the last ten months. 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The more rewards you can get. Like sharpening your Cooking Skills with a top chef. Join for free on the Xfinity App and watch all the rewards float in. Today the first civilian our thanks. Your rewards. Passenger flight to leave afghanistan, to leave Kabul Airport since the u. S. Military evacuation ended, arrived in doha, qatar. More than 100 passengers departed from kabul. This is actually the Kabul Departure right now, an airport fully controlled by the taliban. Flying taliban flags. This is them taking off from qatar. The people on the flight included canadian, ukrainian, german, british and u. S. Citizens. From doha they will go to their final destinations. That flight marks a new effort to get afghan allies and u. S. Editions of the country. Wisconsins representative Mark Pocan met this week with refugees being housed at Fort Mccoy. Heres what congressman Mark Pocan said after the meeting. I can very confidently say that there is an excellent job happening here at Fort Mccoy by all the agencies involved. We will help allow awful lot of people who helped the united states. And it is our obligation. Joining us now is democratic congressman Mark Pocan of wisconsin. Congressman, good to see you. I want to put up a poll, its an ipsos npr poll, which shows what americans think about evacuating afghans who worked. 69 support it, 19 oppose. 69 supporting something in this politicized environment is a big deal. Theres no question these folks helped us, they put themselves on the line, they are in danger, we need to evacuate them and bring them here. Absolutely, thanks for having me. Its a really well run operation and by the weekend i think they will have some people going into communities throughout the country. This is our obligation, and its also our obligation to help people who protected our soldiers. They and their families now are in Harms Way with the taliban. And we will make sure that they are part of this country. Interestingly enough, there are some conservatives who are i dont want to put the pictures up, as they are offensive. But pictures of these groups of refugees, i dont know if they are real or just random pictures of muslims. And they are instilling feel. You really want these people here . You really want these people in this country . Our history in america with refugees, across the board, has been overwhelmingly positive. People forced out of their own countries, allowed in the united states, kissed the ground that they come to. And generally make themselves very hardworking and successful in america. Yes, no question. In fact they have been really great at Fort Mccoy. Nothing but great stories. They are getting vaccinated. In fact, the Covid Vaccine is at near capacity, the capacity is 13,000 people there. One person has turned down a vaccine. Would you like to see that in the united States Population . So they are ready to be part of this country. They served unprotected our soldiers for many, many years. And any kind of rhetoric about whatever background they may have, we have to remember, if we want to ever be able to work with another country in a future situation, we will have to deliver. And i think right now this country is certainly lifting both its hands and hearts of those people. So those people you saw, the 12,000 people who were there, you know some set that you had some sense of how pleased they are to be in america. Did you get a chance to talk to them about what is going on back home and how they feel about the taliban taking over . We werent allowed to talk to them directly. We spoke to one of the interpreters to share some stories with us. But this is something where we really are doing our best right now. They are doing their best at the facility. It is going near perfect in the transition and now they are finding 50,000 places across the country to host folks. So people will start going throughout the country. But this is really important, that we get it done right. I think we are on the right track. And i give President Biden a lot of credit because he made a tough but important decision to leave afghanistan. I think at the end of the day, when you look at polling there, people agree with the decision. What do you think as a member of congress we need to be thinking about as next apps with afghanistan . We have heard from tony blinken, the Secretary Of State, that it does not seem we will be soon recognizing the taliban. But these flights that are taking off out of kabul, theres a certain amount of coordination that is going to be done. Because like it or not, the taliban are the government of afghanistan. I think we will have to see how the taliban decides to proceed. The weather they will be a more responsible government or whether we will have additional issues. But i think what is important is that we need to double our efforts at getting folks out of afghanistan, especially the interpreters. I think there is an issue with some of the family still in afghanistan. And since they are helping us with interpreting right now, we have to do more to get those folks out. But again, ive been really impressed with the effort, despite the fact that the taliban took over quickly. I think that Joe Biden really got things done by august 31st, as he said. And weve got ourselves out of the situation. I just hope that the next time someone decide they are going to get out, that they do not do wet Dick Cheney and George Bush did which is leave with a bunch of done dunkindonuts and disney lands. That was never going to happen. Its the right thing to get out of there but lets make sure we pause. Congressman Mark Pocan, of wisconsin. That is tonights last word, The 11th Hour with Brian Williams begins right now. And good evening once again. Day 233 of the biden administration. And this evening the White House is taking aggressive action on two different fronts. Stepping up the fight to end the surge of the delta variance, with tough new Vaccine Requirements and taking the state of Texas Decor over its new total ban on abortion. Late today the president announced he was using the full Force And Authority of the office to push those remaining 80 Million or so unvaccinated americans to get their shots. Until now biden steered away from making

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