Order thatll require federal contractors to do the same. The Department Of Labor is developing an Emergency Rule to require all employers with 100 or more employees that together employers over 80 Million workers to ensure their Work Forces are fully vaccinated. This is a huge change. This will impact many americans if the rules go through. Here is what you need to know. One, the u. S. Government is using their regulatory powers to require companies to carry out its mandates. 100 people must require those workers get vaccinated. This rules required an alternative to people who do not get vaccinated then they must submit weekly testing. The rule uses corporate power as the pressure here. It does not go as far as making it illegal. The rule comes as the latest data that the vaccines are working, they are crushing the Variant And Delta variant. People who are vaccinated now have a one and One Thousand chance of getting covid. And five, this is as sweeping policy through the United States. It could impact 80 Million americans which is brand new tonight. Now, if being that sweeping and that big, thats good news to medical and Policy Experts who say Covid Resurgence required to get things back to normal. The same facts i shared with you, its viewed as bad news to many critics of strict covid rules. We are living through this together, you know who they are, ranging from libertarians to Maga Activists who seized on covid over and over. Now this is a huge change for america right now with major implications and we have a Special Panel Experts on hands to break it down. They join me in just a moment as for why the biden administration is going this far now. Okay, sounds like big news, ari, but Hasn T Biden been keyed up since the campaign. Why this change now . And why so big . The president gives some context to that in his speech. I want to play one key part before we turn to the experts. Biden argues the United States is at a different crossing point. It has the resources and the solutions in its power to fundamentally mostly and covid in america. The president argues we have to take this next step because politics have been standing in the way of those solutions. The majority of americans are keeping us from turning the corner. These pandemic politics are making people sick, causing unvaccinated people to die. We cant allow these actions to stand in the way. The federal government has been pushing for these safety measures. Thats a contrast the president mentioned. In florida, the governor there spending his precious time trying to reinstate a ban on Mask Mandate because he lost because a judge struck it down. We are at an inflection point. Any one who says that is long overdue step has to recognize the fact that President Biden did not do this earlier. United States Policies at least since this president took over have tried every single way to encourage people to get vaccinated. Up against the problems we have been reporting that you have been living through and up against in many conservative areas, this is the president taking another politically controversial act, one thatll bring more criticism to do what he say and what apparently many epidemiologists say is more needed. Make people get vaccinated. Dr. Patel, our Msnbc Analyst and Michael Beschloss and manny mclaughlin. Special coverage i say because doctor, this is quite a breakthrough in policy and not one they took lightly. I am curious what you think medically about what it would mean for the United States and covid if employers go along with this and thus many more people get vaccinated. Very clear this is exactly what we are going to have to do in order to really reduce the burden of Covid Medically and economic and just mentally, just been fatiguing for so many reasons. Getting into 70 vaccination rates, all right six months ago is what is we thought we needed for the Herd Immunity is the concept of immunity in our country. Delta variant changed that. We are looking at meeting 80 to 90 . To get there, we Cant Deal with this. We have to talk about these fixes. I realize it will be controversial. I will take that controversy. Yeah, as you said clearly we are moving the sticks. Eleanor, you cover a lot of different battles across different administrations. This is a Turning Point tonight. The president spoke about running out of patience with people who are delaying or refusing to get vaccinated given what we learned and what we know. This is a big speech. Take a listen. Over 200 Million americans have gotten at least one shot. We have been patience but our patience is wearing thin and refusal have caused All Of Us. Please do the right thing. This is not about freedom or personal choice. Its about protecting yourself and those around you. Eleanor, your thoughts on the speech, the aggressiveness of the new policy and what the president is trying to do there which is prebut. The only thing i can find wrong with the speech is he did not deliver earlier. Here we are and now more mr. Nice guy and no more coddling the unvaccinated and adding these requirements and bringing in the dreaded agency, osha to say every business within 100 employees have to have a Vaccine Mandate or regular testing. Thats going to be tested as to its constitutionalty, so what . Thatll take time and in the meantime you may get some people vaccinated. His bid to people who are claiming this is their personal freedom show some respect. You know like All Of Us who watched that Guy Growling on the flight to the Flight Attendant because he did not want to wear his mask. This is a long time coming. I hope it will arrest where we are. Not only the biden presidency is at stake here, the economy and american society and a lot of lives. He also singled out every constituents, talked to parents and unvaccinated and the vaccinated who are so frustrated who have done everything right. Then at the governors, he said talking about being a bully in school and they are undermining their own population and as he puts it theyre ordering mobiles more. I think this is a good moment, i just hope it has the results we are hoping for. People have every right to debate policies. They dont have the right to menace an attack but this is a policy debate. On the policy side, what may be difficult for the White House here, for every biden critic, tonight that looks to be true. Well, there are people saying that. After Pearl Harbor and 1941, there are people saying Franklin Roosevelt is making me have national defense, hes asking many e to do other things to help protect the public or 20 years ago this week, george w. Bush, these people may have contended is making me do things that may stop terrorists from striking buildings again and flying airplanes into the pentagon. He was. Thats what a president does at a time of national emergency. We are now at a moment of national emergency. People are dying and suffering. Little kids in school will die because Idiot Governors will say well support measures to prevent them getting vaccinated. This is a matter of health, Donald Trump, said during the nightmare he was president , during the Covid Pandemic last year was, i feel like a wartime president. Unfortunately, he said it almost only for a moment and he never behaved like one. This is a president whos dealing with covid as if hes dealing with a hostile entity that can kill a lot of our people. In contrast, Woodrow Wilson sat on his rear end and did not teach americans how to defend themselves against influenza during World War i. He didnt want to be unpopular. Never said a word about the flu, 670,000 people died. Donald trump says all sorts of crazy things about bleach and all over the place, the result is hundreds of thousands of americans died who did not need to die. President biden understands his fundamental responsibilities to protect american lives and thats what hes doing. Michael, you speak with clarity with history as usual. Its interesting you put in context of 9 11 anniversary that so many people have thought about this week. That external attack took around 3,000 live and murder is different than the virus. The virus is taking Hundreds And Thousands of lives. I get the scale that you are encouraging us to think about. Eleanor, because of your Specialty And Expertise with the right wing mind, loyal eleanors clip, how often you sat facetoface and listen and rebut. Lets have the dialogue, i am going to tee up some of what we have heard from the right and what i can tell you having followed this town as you have, is going to go into overdrive tonight which is about Vaccine Mandates and this is a little bit of whats coming down on the right, take a look. A plan is now underway to use Vaccine Mandates to take your guns. Force people to take medicines they dont want or need. Get injected with an Experimental Covid vaccine. The greatest threat to our children does not come from covid19. It comes from Government Officials like you. Having masks forced on children by the government, you should move to afghanistan and live with the taliban and see how you like that. Wow. See how you like that . Eleanor, politics is the framework of how we make policy, we have the doctors here and she will get the last word on whats happening in americas policy tonight. Give us the politics here, i feel like its about to turn up. Donald trump pioneered the vaccines and he gambled billions of dollars on the fact that it may work. He called the operation warped speed and he took the vaccine himself and the entire family. He didnt do it in front of the camera. He launched a movement in this country that he Cant Control it anymore. He spoke at a rally i think it was, when he urged them to get the vaccine, they booed. The right wing, i probably have rolled my eyes and let everything they said over the years. They have gotten away with the vaccines and the most terrible way thats ruining lives and they gotten the way with the texas rule temporarily on denying womens reproductive healthcare. Take them seriously but fight them every step of the way. I think Joe Biden showed some needed and overdue fight in the speech he delivered today. Interesting from eleanor and dr. Patel, in closing and for folks who may not have been with us at the top of the hour. The president making news, going further than he ever gone for covid vaccines. 80 Million americans waking up today working at a job where they can choose to do this or not. Theyll be under much more Employer Pressure to do so. At a medical level, if this happens and goes forward, will it save lives, do you have any idea how many . Oh yeah, absolutely. This will save lives and estimate that we can actually make this happen, by the way, Rule Making and regulations dont necessarily happen as quickly as i would like it to happen. Thats where all top officials are working Fever Ishly to get the language out. Whatll result in mitigating hundreds of thousands of deaths. If we had continue and came across another variant, not just delta but more threatening which is in our future if we cant get a handle on this that we could see deaths double potentially. Imagine a mutant that could escape immunity that we so preciously fought to protect. Thats the number thats staggering and over 40 Million americans and up to a third having longterm devastating effect. Its not just a sheer number. If you think of the multiplier effect, economic on top of health and racial disparity and so many other things we talked about. These vaccines can prevent not just the deaths from covid but the very likely deaths from a lot of our lives, not being conducted on a Daytoday Basis even from a health perspective. Children are not getting vaccinated and its because we have been holding them back from seeing pediatricians out of fear. People are living in fear in parts of this country. Hopefully thatll end. The most important thing the president did in my mind was set the reassuring tone that only Joe Biden cab do that someone is protecting your interests. My job is to protect all americans. Hes going to do that from a leadership and medical perspective. Really important point i think in more than one lane from Eleanor Cliff and dr. 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The rally claims to be about defending the people involving in January 6th which is a controversial position to be sure. They went and called those people political prisoners in these sort of Media Prison visits. They were turned away but not a force rightwing News Outlet caught if the pr stunt. Our peaceful protest on behalf of political prisoners who has been persecuted as a result of the January 6th rallies. Theyre trying to call our protest, insurrection 2. 0. When was insurrection 1. 0. I am telling the american people, dont be intimidated to show up. Thats your capitol. When was insurrection 1. 0 . It was on January 6th. Why are some republicans getting shy about the very supporters they have been rallied with . Well be back in 60 seconds. You get both. Introducing the Allnew 3row Jeep grand Cherokee L jeep. Theres only one. Finding new routes to reach your customers, and new ways for them to reach you. Is what business is all about. 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It feels to me they are the party of the riot on January 6th. Thats something that trump has done. I remember when we were all shocked when these sorts of people showed up at trumps rallies. Now, theyre organizing trumps rallies. If you look at the email that Donald Trump shared, condemning the removal of robert e. Lee statue in virginia, these have now become gop causes. Yeah, you are certainly right about that. You used to have the dancing around, republican Candidate Falwell and here as you say its openly embraced. Let me press you on The One part that does not totally align which is why would marjorie Taylor Greene go to this thing . They seem to be keeping some kind of distance. Marjorie Taylor Greene is not going because mccarthy told her she cant go. I doubt if it was not for Kevin Mccarthy or Mitch Mcconnell they have an idea of how January 6th is going to go. It would simply fade away and not to trap any interests. Most Swing Voters do not like partisanship. They thought they can simply what they did not realize that they under estimated for us by putting kinssinger on the Mission And Liz cheney. He belongs to a republican family thats so iconic. By putting them on the commission, she blew up that talking point. I am running out of time and my last question is the shortest and a little more baroque which is we also dont know whether pepa, The Frog will show up. I dont know if you heard one way or another . I am sure you are going to see carricuture of pepa The Frog. To see it become a white national symbol. Shoutout to your Pet Frog there is this Trump Maga Pepa frog and for me on a much more mundane Level Kind of ruin The Frogs emogi. We believe in neutral nonpartisanship here. I was going to say the great video game, the 80s Game i have not thought about that. Chai, Thank You for being here. We have a lot more in the program because we talked about what bidens new sweeping Covid Move does. Is it 100 legal . You got to think about that. 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President biden late today mandating the Privates Company with 100 more employers must fully get vaccinated. Reporters have been wondering that today. Is this constitutional, mr. President . A Fair Question that he chose not to answer. Thanks both of you for being here. Thanks for having us. Professor, i always try to be as clear as possible. This is a big move out of the White House here that affects peoples lives. Americans are still absorbing it. This Segment Journalistically is not about a good or bad idea or whether it makes a Workplace Safer in theory which we discussed with the doctor earlier in the show. This segment is about whether this thing is legal and constitutional, yes or no . I give you the floor. Hes on Rock Solid legal ground. This is bold and audacious and unprecedented in Americas History if you combine with the federal Work Force mandate. Under the safety act, the president and the Department Of Labor has the full power to require Health And Safety rules in the Workplace And Covid vaccines are proven to be highly safe and effective thatll make the Work Force safe and Oshas Job is to do exactly that. Can i lawyer you a little bit, are you up for it . Yes, please do, i love it. What do you say to an argument that this administration may face in court where people say look, a lot of those types of rules feel like theyre in the workplace. Here is these federal rules of how you handle me when you go into the Meat Plant and you go home but they dont go into the kitchen but your body. What precedent does the government have . The government requires vaccines in the workplace before. And so as private businesses. The important thing to realize here is that people do have the right to make decisions about their own bodies. They dont have the right to expose their fellow workers or customers to potentially dangerous or even deadly infectious disease. Oshas job is to protect the workplace. Infectious diseases are just as dangerous as having an accident in a Meatpacking Plant or coal mine. It could be more dangerous. Its absolutely within the jurisdiction of osha to be able to do that. I applaud the president for doing that. Thats a professors answer. Emily, the same question. I think its important that the aclu whose job it is protecting civil liberties supporting Vaccine Mandates because they dont seem actually effective alternative. This is the Way Science informs the legal picture. I think helps what Professor Gostin is saying. I do think there is a Wild Card here which is the police report. We have seen in previous cases that the court been quite eager to support petitions from churches or other organizations that did not want to abide by public rules. This was kind of last years legal fight over covid. And so when one wonders if a church or religious group sues this Vaccine Mandate where the courts could stand. 100 years ago when we had some Court Cases during moments of state and local governments ordering quarantines when the Spanish Flu was here. What you see there is courts deferred to government and giving them broad authorities to protect the publics health. The reason is obvious. This is not really a choice of ones individual freedom. Its about Ones Participation in society. The Quarantine Precedent are much more hard core. It does not involve the power of employer. Its a wide security measure. Justice sits on the court which generally have a libertarian block at this point. It must cleanly be aware that we can have other pandemics coming down the pipes. A lot of folks may not think about it because theyre busy trying to earn a living and getting kids out of school. If you read up on what w. H. O. And Ted Talks and all these stuff, hey, you can have a new one or you have to take more Emergency Measures to save potentially any residential zone. I dont know how much thats going to be in a brief. Yeah, thats a good question. I do think there is a lot of History And President behind giving the president a lot of deference and another matter is Vaccine Mandates in schools. Traditionally we require children getting vaccinated from measles and mumps in order to attend school. Thats how we ensure all children vaccinated. In this case, the vaccines coming to adults first, it has to go through employers and thats the kind of shift here. Its not an entirely its new and bold and scope and sweep. There are historical precedents though. We have seen many cases take on a lot of political heat from the obamacare rounds to others and so this could depending on the vehicle become apart of that. I saw last Night Trump was on Fox News trying to weave his message and well see if its updated now that we have the new mandate. Take a listen to Donald Trump. I got vaccinated. I feel very good. I think we save millions and millions of people worldwide. If you do get sick, you dont get sick like they were before. Exactly. Meaning you dont die. I would recommend but i would also say let her have her freedom. You know the word freedom, right . Exactly. Professor, you know the word freedom, right . He does say the vaccines work. If there is a big enough case that as emily says could go to the Supreme Court though. Gives the people a different way to see this. Your final thought how that can go. With president trump, nobody has a freedom to pose a risk to others. All of us have a freedom to be safe when we go to work. As far as the Supreme Court, its absolutely true that its a conservative majority, super majority. They already refused to review the university in the Vaccines Mandate which indicates they understand this. We dont have to really guess about this. The Supreme Court is upheld Vaccine Mandates twice. And so yes, this court is always a Wild Card. You never know where theyre going to go. If you are going to follow the rule of law. This is absolutely safe and its the right thing to do ethically. Yeah, you mentioned the Indiana Case which we cover folks. When they skip that, it shows they were not eager to jump into this. It does seem legally that this would be harder to duck just because of this years scale. But as you say yeah, the court ultimately, we are at the most people are eager to get thing before the Supreme Court. Theyre going to hear an Abortion Case that really seems to clearly violate roe v. Wade. I am glad you are bringing in that. I am going to fit in a break, i am going to thank the professor and emily, well get to laura shortly. 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He testified before congress calling for an Ethnic Cleansing and claiming that Black Americans should have no rights whatsoever. Trump adding whatever you want to call it, trolling to injury also made the outlandish claim that he thinks lee would have won the war in afghanistan, lamenting if only we had lee to command our troops. Were talking about someone who is famous and infamous for one thing, losing a gigantic war. That is something for the record. As i mentioned, we also have a very special Guest Standing by to deal with an update on the Justice Department suing texas. Thats next. E Part Ment suing tes thats next. Your mission stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. And take. It. On. With rinvoq. Rinvoq a oncedaily pill can dramatically improve symptoms. Rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. And for some rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. Thats rinvoq relief. With ra, your overactive Immune System attacks your joints. 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The United States has the authority and the responsibility to ensure that no state can deprive individuals of their constitutional rights through a legislative scheme specifically designed to prevent the vindication of those rights. Attorney general garland making it clear why the biden administration is suing. They view this as unconstitutional under roe v. Wade. Im joined by laura bass set, the new editor in chief of jezebel. Welcome and congratulations professionally. Thank you, ari, i appreciate it. Always good to be here. You know, i wanted to get your bigger perspective here. For those who dont know, jezebel has been a pioneering voice for womens voices and feminism and a whole range of writers and issues for a long time. This is about the law, and weve had lawyers on in our coverage this week, but its also about Power And Gender basically Gender Discrimination within power. Im curious your view of this, along with the news that the biden administration is swiftly trying to stop it . Yeah. Well, obviously the texas Abortion Law is completely absurd on a number of levels. You mentioned it bans abortion after six weeks. I want to be clear, biologically speaking thats not six weeks after you realize youre pregnant, thats six weeks after your last period, so this is before many women even realize their pregnant. Its effectively a full ban on abortion in texas. And the Supreme Court in a very cowardly way without even signing the opinion has green lit this law. While they didnt necessarily overturn roe v. Wade, they have effectively rendered it toothless. The right to abortion no longer exists in texas, but everywhere, because the Supreme Court has signalled that roe v. Wade doesnt mean anything anymore. So this is an absolutely massive deal in terms of reproductive rights. Then when you add on top of it the fact that texas isnt even willing to enforce this law itself. Its deputizing citizens to enforce this law by spying on Each Other. You can sue an Uber Driver who brings the woman to an abortion clinic. You can sue that person for 10,000 in texas. Imagine how republicans would feel if, for instance, a blue state like New York banned guns and said the way were going to enforce this, were going to have citizens sue Each Other. Anyone who buys a gun, sells a gun, even drives you to the store to buy a gun, you can sue them for 10,000. Conservatives would be completely up in arms. I have about a minute left. What does that do in your view to the way the state seems to be encouraging vigilanteism specifically against a group of individuals, women. Right, exactly. Well, it says were encouraging we are encouraging citizens to spy on women to try to make Money Off of the fact theyre getting a specific medical procedure and this is in a state thats saying, you know, we want the government to stay out of our health care. We are banning Mask Mandates. You cant make us against the vaccine, you cant make us get masks. Theyre all about freedom and, quote unquote, pro life. When it comes to womens uteri, theyre encouraging people to spy on Each Other and enforce this law against Each Other. Its wildly hypocritical and makes no sense. I appreciate your clarity as well as your body of Work And Writing on this, and so well be having you back to discuss it because as mentioned, the Doj Suit keeps this very much a live issue in the courts, what texas is trying to do. Laura bassett, i want to Thank You. Im out of time but The Reidout with Joy Reid is up next. Hi, joy. Hi, ari. Thank you very much. You have a great evening. 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