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Covid cases and hospitalizations are at levels we have not seen since early february. Before the majority of the country even had access to the vaccine. Theyve alSo leveled out and are basically flat in the last two weeks. Deaths, however, jumped more than 30 . Nearly all of them among the unvaccinated. Going to say it one more time. Nearly all the deaths recorded are unvaccinated americans. Lets break it down, bring in Mike Memoli at the White House. Cal perry, eugene daniels, and dr. Paul offett. He is on the Fda Vaccine adviSory committee. He knows what he is talking about. Mr. Memoli. Lets be honest, the six points, all of us would say sure, lets do that. How is it going to happen . Reporter thats right, steph. Were going to get more specifics through the day. This is clearly a major moment for the White House after a period of months they moved from July 4th Celebration of independence from the virus to seeing just in the past week in fact one of the highest daily Case Counts during the entirety of the pandemic. This has been all about the Delta Variant and prevalence, transmissibility of it. You look at six broad themes, what the White House is drilling down on are two of those. One, Booster Shots as part of an effort to continue to help the vaccinated already. Obviously they want to continue to see Vaccination Numbers go up. We are headed into a critical period in which in the next few weeks, all those who have two shots are going to begin to hopefully get a third shot once the fda approves that. Then you have to look at schools. This is Something that the president knows full well, he has been laser focused on the middle class and suburban mind sets in the campaign and now the White House. Millions are sending kids back to school that want to know theyre safe. What the administration is looking at doing is imploring states and local governments to continue to move forward with mandates as theyre able to. Theyre fighting against Some republican governors in places, and leveraging private and public partnerships, leaning on the Business Community to alSo do their part to, a, encourage vaccinations, but alSo to move into masking mandates as well. Thats one thing were going to see the president expand already. We talked a few weeks ago that he was encouraging federal agencies to impose Vaccine Mandates. Now theyre going to be strengthening Some requirements as well. What the White House is calling a pressing all levers approach, and they need to do So. Case counts are beginning to decline nationally, this will be a significant challenge, especially in those parts of the country where schools are reopening, and theres concern. What has been largely limited to the South and in states like florida, louisiana, alabama, mississippi, might now become more prevalent as younger individuals go back to schools, might face the Delta Variant themselves. Doctor, i am guessing you have a positive response to more regular testing in schools. Testing isnt going to hurt anybody. Is that enough or should we see more Vaccine Mandates like what they talk about possibly having a Vaccine Mandate for School Kids in l. A. . I think the only way to get on top of this pandemic is to vaccinate the unvaccinated. Booster to people already vaccinated wont have a huge impact. You have 60, 70, 80 Million americans saying no thanks. Were going to continue to let the Virus Spread and mutate, going to continue to potentially create variants that will be more resistant to vaccine immunity. What are you going to do about it. We claim it is a civil liberty or perSonal freedom. What are you going to do. The only thing is compel people to be vaccinated and thats a hard thing to do. Youre already seeing it happen. It is amazing that we talk endlessly, correctly about the need for vaccines for children. We have a vaccine for 12 to 15yearolds, only 12 of them get it. I think we need to mandate vaccines for School Entry for children that can receive the vaccine and we have to have a federal Vaccine Mandate maybe through osha, through obstructional Safety And Health administration So that gives private industries cover for essentially mandating vaccines for all their workers. Thats the only way out. Until we get the unvaccinated vaccinated, well continue to suffer. Somehow we see that as a freedom even though it is not your freedom to catch and transmit a potentially fatal infection. Do we need to do Something to improve testing, we say we are going to have more testing. When people go to get tested, going to say it pretty plainly, it sucks, getting the results and access, it takes longer than it should. So this idea, dont worry, were going to get tested, when you need to do it, it is pretty unsatisfying. I think youre right. Uk, theyve made it easy to get home antigen testing. My sister came in from london a few weeks ago and brought with her a variety of the tests which she would test herself periodically. That would help. Youre right. As it stands now, it is hard. Eugene, the president is expected to push for stricter Vaccine Mandates. Doesnt matter where you look, private companies, hospitals, cities all over the place are trying to impose these mandates and theyre getting push back, protests, lawsuits. Is there anything this administration can do, the doctor was mentioning, if osha gave them cover, a federal mandate, is there Something the White House is considering So they can actually support private businesses who are doing what they asked . Yeah. The thing that they have been making clear, Sources i have been talking to continued to make clear, theyre not interested in a nationwide Vaccine Mandate. Jen psaki told us two days ago on Air Force one, they dont think Something'>Thats Something they can do. The understanding is that is not Something the administration is going to do, So it is going to fall on osha, it is going to fall on folks like the people that own businesses. Like i went Somewhere yesterday and they made us show vaccine cards. Those things theyre going to lean on all those organizations to do Something like that. What they know is no matter what else they do in this year, next couple of years, if they dont get a handle on the pandemic and really get us out and moving with the pandemic, nothing else matters because americans lives continue to be at risk, were still at home. Thats one of the reaSons politically were seeing the president s Approval Numbers go down. We have this summit, we are leaving home and not wearing masks, and were back to that. And the biden administration says we are leading by science. What that means is science changes, it goes back and forth, but that doesnt help politically when people are wondering why are we getting mixed messaging when the administration is saying we are following the science wherever it goes. That is one of the disconnects theyre seeing still. And it is not falling on osha, it is falling on private businesses and theyre looking at the administration, saying help me. Cal, take us to the state of kentucky. They hit a Record Number not of infections, of hospitalizations for anyone out there who says oh, this is just the flu. What are people there telling you, they see how bad it is firsthand. Reporter yeah, a desperately bad situation. We heard that from the government yesterday, to give you an idea how bad the cdc classifies High Transmission 100 cases per 100,000. Kentucky is around 650 per 100,000. Hospitals are full, icu beds inside hospitals are full, and schools are shutdown. A fifth of the districts are not operating. Kids are home from school. It is. We will hear President Biden in a lot of ways try to keep america going the Direction Kentucky has gone in with out of control community spread, with low Vaccination Numbers, especially in rural areas, and Childrens Hospitals starting to fill as well. The one behind me seeing more patients since the pandemic began. I had a chance to talk to the physician in chief. He is upset. Some staff are upset. In his words, much of this is preventable. Take a listen. Since july 29th, we had three times increase in the amount of children admitted to Childrens Hospital. All the children severely hospitalized have been above the age of 12. What that tells me are these are children that could have been immunized, this is a preventable disease. As we talked about in history when we had diseases before, polio, small pox, these are preventable. Reporter across the state, you are looking at Vaccination Rate of 49. 1 . The Numbers Drop when you look at ages from 18 to 29. About 44 . We know it is less for children 12 to 18. Somewhere around 40 . With High Schools obviously starting to fill up in the school year, hard to keep cases down with Vaccination Rates So low. I know you cant give away fda secrets, i have to ask about unvaccinated children under 12. Now theyre going back to school in perSon. Now their parents are going back to work. And theyre just as vulnerable as ever. And we are not living our lives as carefully as we were a year ago because So many of us are vaccinated. But those kids are ours are not. It is a bad combination of events. A highly transmissible virus in delta, a large number of people that are unvaccinated and children less than 12 are not vaccinated, who are gathering in one place. As we move to fall and winter where whether is cooler and drier, it makes it more easily spread. In communities where the virus is raging as we said in kentucky, those children are at risk. Youre already seeing it happen. When do you think they could potentially have access to the vaccine, kids under 12 . You think i know fda secrets, youre wrong. I know as much as you do. The adviSory committee will review data when we get it. Hopefully well have the data in the next month or two. I would hope we have a vaccine by early winter because certainly we need it for children. Having the Vaccine Isnt enough. We need to vaccinate children as were not seeing in 12 to 15yearolds. I work at Childrens Hospital of philadelphia, we see children come into the hospital more than before, consistent with the national average. What are parents telling you, when the children arrive in the hospital So sick they need to be hospitalized, what are their mothers and fathers telling you . Why werent they vaccinated . One thing theyre telling me that upsets me most is not only with the child not vaccinated, they werent vaccinated, parents werent vaccinated. One thing they can do to protect their child. It is hard. One parent recently in the hospital, and the father had been vaccinated, the mother not. When i asked the father why he was vaccinated, he said because it was requirement for work. I think mandates do matter and theyre hard to enforce but thats really the only way out of this. Get vaxxed. Thank you So much. We have to turn to Breaking News out of afghanistan where nbc confirmed that an international Passenger Flight Carrying Americans and others is expected to fly out of kabul today. It would be the first flight allowed to leave since u. S. Forces left the country a total of ten days ago. Raf sanchez is in doha. Who is on the flight . Reporter two Sources saying this is a qatari organized flight. 200 are on board. We dont know how many are americans. The State Department is saying around 100 or So americans still trapped in afghanistan, trying to get on a flight like this. The White House is not confirming anything now. They are understandably very concerned about operational security. This flight is going to take off from hamid karzai airport, the same airport the Suicide Bomber struck a couple weeks ago. Assuming this goes smoothly and The Americans and other foreign Nationals Land here in doha, this moment. Confidence that it could secure cooperation from the t evacuate from the airport even without any u. S. Troops on the ground. Steph . All right. Were going to dig deeper into this Breaking News later with a former marine working to get refugees out. Next, to Capitol Hill. Committee work has begun on the multi trillion spending package. Theres a major push to prior Ties Child Care in the bill. Carve it out. New Security Measures in place ahead of a far right rally scheduled for later this month at the capitol. 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What is happening specifically today and the timeline to get this across the Finish Line and more importantly, what it does to the 1 Billion package that was agreed on by both parties . Reporter hey, steph. So what is happening today is this is a massive piece of legislation that touches many committees here in congress. Five of those committees in the house are starting to talk and do a markup is what they say, they go through pieces of the legislation to talk about it and vote it out of the committee. Now, theres more committees that will start doing that tomorrow as well, and the senate will start that process next week. This is a major 3. 5 trillion human Infrastructure Bill. As far as the time, the goal is to pass it with the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill to roads and bridges by end of the month. But let me tell you, steph, i have not talked to anyone on Capitol Hill who realistically thinks theyre going to meet that timeline. They still have to write this legislation and then negotiate it, even with members of their own party like Senator Joe Manchin who does not like the Price Tag. Speaker pelosi was asked about the Price Tag yesterday and lets listen to what she said. I dont know what the number will be. We are marking it 3. 5. Were not going above that. I hope as people are looking at numbers that theyre weighing the values and what we can accomplish with that legislation. Reporter Speaker Pelosi says she is not going above 3. 5 trillion. We know that. What she did not say is that she will not go below 3. 5 trillion. It Sounds like theres a lot of room for negotiations with moderates, including people like Senator Joe Manchin, stephanie. A lot of room, not necessarily a lot of time. Thank you. Lets dig deeper, bring in congressman katie porter, democrat from california and member of the house oversight committee. I havent seen you in ages. Glad youre here. You want to prioritize Child Care. You spent a letter to Speaker Pelosi about it. What do you want specifically . We need a Child Care investment that will benefit the entire economy. That means leaving no family behind. No family should pay more than 7 of its income on Child Care and the lowest income Workers Shouldnt have to pay anything. That is the investment that is going to jump start our economy, deal with the 30 year record low. It is the investment that no family pays more than 7 thats going to let the economy grow in a strong, stable, globally competitive way going forward. Thats what i am pushing for. And i am not alone. I push for this because this is what i am hearing from american families and from businesses both small and large who want and need those women in the Work Force. Amen, hallelujah, thank you very much. We know it. We saw such a small percentage of women make their way back to the Work Force because they dont have Child Care. Why not make this a standalone bill . It has So much support. Why lump it in with Everything Else . I am going to be honest, i have no earthly idea where the standalone bill is coming from. Chris cuomo asked me about it last night. I have no idea who has given you this crazy talking point. Let me be clear. Women, parents, Child Care arent Some special need, theyre a Building Block of our budget and of our economy and the exact same way that environmental standards are, the exact same way that dealing with clean energy investment, dealing with health care. This needs to go in the same bill because it is about the same things. Im not saying theyre a special need. What i am asking is maybe theyre a bigger priority than Everything Else. Why not push to get this made its own bill, the other stuff may fall by the wayside. You may not get enough democrats. You think Joe Manchin is not the only one not down with 3. 5 trillion, youre wrong. There are more centrist democrats letting joe be the Human Shield but theyre not going to vote for 3. 5 trillion. Let me take it in two separate pieces. The first piece, why should Child Care be part of the bill. I partially addressed this. Let me make a practical point to you, stephanie. If we had the men who have run this country for hundreds of years, the wealthy men whose wives and others have taken care of Child Care So convinced it was important, we would have done Something about Child Care 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago when other countries did it. So i am not today all of a sudden convinced we have the will to deal with Child Care when we put off the Issue Decade after decade after decade. People tweet, womens pay day, women are falling behind, glass ceiling. Guess what, Child Care is the Solution. It is a crisis in economic productivity in this country and it is what we have to Solve as part of building back better. With regard to Senator Manchin and others that want to talk about the Price Tag for this, let me be clear, youre a business perSon, you get it, you can do math. If Something costs a, you have two options. Negotiate down from a or find the money. We have Revenue Options on the table. There are huge number of corporations that pay zero taxes and making savvy revenue choices, for example, using real corporate Profit Approach to dealing with those corporations that pay zero, we can generate 700 billion. If we use the corporate minimum tax approach, we generate 40 billion. Right there. Right there, Senator Manchin, anyone thats worried about spending, we can generate revenue So it isnt about 3. 5 trillion in spending. We will generate revenue to pay for things. I have the will to do it. The question is does Senator Manchin or is he more concerned about corporate donors, including the Oil And Gas industry, big Pharmaceutical Industry and others getting away with paying nothing under the current tax system. How about Tax Enforcement . It was dropped from the bipartisan bill, but Treasury Department just said that the top 1 are evading, not talking about adding new laws, evading 163 Billion every year. Shouldnt Tax Enforcement put more money into the irs to enforce the existing tax laws, wouldnt that be a great part of the budget . Heck yes, stephanie. But look who took that out . The very same people who are complaining we cant afford to make investments in regular american families are the same ones trying to shield the Tax Cheats of the country. So they cant have it both ways. AbSolutely we should fully fund irs enforcement. Every american should pay their fair share, whether youre a huge Corporation Or Entry level worker. Right now, we have a system in which the everyday people pay and the super, super wealthy, top 1 , huge multinational corporations get away with paying nothing. I and the other people pushing to invest in american families, including things like Child Care, are the very same people pushing to fully fund the irs. I would like to see Senator Joe Manchin come out in favor of fully funding the irs, in favor of having a fair global corporate tax system. Once we raise that revenue, i am willing to talk to him about what we need to do to create a Budget Bill that meets his Goal And Definition of being fiscally responsible. I think it is dead on. Fiscally irresponsible for Senator Manchin to refuse to raise revenue, and at the same Time Out of the other side of his mouth that he uses to talk to corporate donors complain we Cant Pay for things that american families desperately need. Katie porter, you take no Soners-today'>PriSoners Today. We have no time left. I am getting screamed at in my ear. I have to ask. California recall in less than a week. What happens if Som'>Gavin NewSom loses . He is not going to be recalled. We have one of the lowest covid rates and one of the fastest growing economies. I live in california, raising my family here. Things in california are going well. The recall is part of our california process, it is going to be an election. I have already mailed in my ballot voting no, making sure we continue to have governor newSoms leadership. Millions of californians joined me. I cant wait for this to be over September 14th So we can move forward as a state. Katie porter, taking no Soners-today'>PriSoners Today before shes sending her three children off to school and doing it on her own. Congresswoman, always good to see you. Thank you. Still ahead. The search continues for the perSon that planted Pipe Bombs near the capitol before the January 6th insurrection. Now the fbi released Brand New video. All this as Capitol Police are bracing for another far right wing rally. The latest on the Security Steps being taken. Security steps being taken. 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The rally brings together supporters, supporters of the insurrectionists, people that stormed the capitol January 6th that attacked Law Enforcement, who threatened the lives of our lawmakers, members of far right extremist groups are expected to show up. This comes as the fbi released new video of the suspect that planted Pipe Bombs near the Dnc And Rnc headquarters January 5th, the night before the attack. Theyre asking the public to help identify the suspect. Joining me with the latest details, Justice Correspondent Pete Williams and Capitol Hill correspondent garrett haake. What do we know about the suspect that planted the bombs and the investigation . Precious little. Thats why the fbi is releasing videos, hoping Someone will see Something to jog in a memory, phone in a tip. The latest video is The One you showed a little of, the perSon walking up to, sitting down on a bench outside headquarters of the Democratic National Committee where one of the bombs was placed. You dont see the perSon place the bomb. The perSon sits down with a backpack and a gray hoodie, wearing a mask, black and Light Gray Nike Speed Turf shoes and gloves. Fishes out a phone, looks at it, walks away. It is in this spot one of the two Pipe Bombs was later planted. The other video the fbi released shows the route the fbi believes the perSon took on the night of January 5th between 7 30 and 8 30 p. M. If you look at the show, you can see it on the website, you see the Red Dot Showing where the perSon was moving and times they were at various platsz. They know this from looking at the surveillance video. The only thing they can say for sure, and by the way, you see Folger Park on the lower right of the screen, the fbi believes thats where this was staged out of. Two bombs were placed in that time. Didnt go off. Authorities said they were fully functional. Various videos we have seen that are inter laid into the map we have seen earlier, now theyre matching them to where and when the perSon was, thats the Capitol Hill club near the Republican National Committee headquarters, across from one of the House Office buildings. Rnc is on first street, dnc on South capitol. The only things the fbi can say for sure, they believe this perSon was not from this Area And Base that conclusion on movements of the perSon during this time and knocking on doors in the neighborhood, asking if they ever saw Somebody like this. They still cant say, for example, whether this is a man or woman. On January 6th a domestic Terrorist Group broke into our capitol, attacking Police Officers and threatening to hang our Vice President and want to go attack other lawmakers. What exactly is next Saturdays Rally about, justice for j6 and what are we doing to prepare for it. Reporter you dont have to remind me, stephanie, i was standing here when it all happened. This rally next weekend will be by supporters of the same people, saying their arrests, Some 600 of them now, are violations of their constitutional rights. The organizers say they want to speak out on behalf of ashli babbitt, the Insurrectionist Shot and killed by a Capitol Police Officer off the house floor. This is happening on a saturday when congress is not in session, you dont have the speech by the former president to draw people here, and this rally is permitted, it will be on the West Side of the capitol complex. Those are mitigating factors in what might happen here next saturday. Capitol police are taking no chances. Garrett, their constitutional right to do what, beat Police Officers over the head with flag poles, break windows, try to climb into the senate chamber, constitutional right to do what . Reporter in this case, their constitutional right to come and hold a protest, to have speakers outside the capitol. Theyll be doing So under the watchful eye of the entire Capitol Police force which has been activated for next weekend. Were told by a Source familiar with planning that the fencing we all got So familiar with in months after January 6th, at least Some of it will be reerected to protect the complex. Capitol police, local d. C. Police are taking no chances, taking it seriously, trying to balance first amendment rights of these people, regardless what anyone may think of them with the safety of the complex, of lawmakers, and greater Capitol Hill community. Capitol hill unlike the White House sits in the middle of a residential neighborhood. All those concerns meant to be addressed before the event on the 18th. Peaceful protests outside the capitol, have at it. Breaking down doors and stealing things, no, youre a criminal. Thank you both. AlSo, the biden administration reportedly jumping into the texas abortion fight. The Wall Street Journal now reporting that according to people familiar with the matter, the administration is preparing to sue the lone Star State over its new law banning most abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. They may do this as early as today. Nbc reached out to the White House and justice, havent yet confirmed the report. The Supreme Court decided not to block the Texas Law in an emergency ruling, called a Shadow Docket Decision. The court is using that often to weigh in on major cases. Here to explain, amy howe. Explain this to me. How does a Shadow Docket Decision differ from a typical supreme Court Decision and why is it a big deal that the Supreme Court is using it more . So, when we think about the Supreme Court, we think about the decisions on the merits, like On Obamacare or the president s tax returns. In those cases the Supreme Court gets multiple rounds of briefing, including from people who may not be involved in the case but may have unique perspective, they hear Oral Argument In Open Court and months later issue opinions that Sometimes in the case of the president s tax returns, for example, might be 70 pages long. And about 70 of those cases every year. Everything else is what we call the Shadow Docket. What we talk about with the Shadow Docket are Emergency Requests for relief. Something like request to put an execution on hold which the Supreme Court did last night, put the Texas Abortion Law on hold. Those usually happen quickly as Justice Kagan noted in her dissent in the texas abortion case, the Abortion Providers came to the Supreme Court monday night, the Supreme Court ruled wednesday night, usually with relatively little briefing. Critics say we dont usually get much in the way of explanation why the court does what it does. Sometimes you dont know how the justices voted. Theres not a lot of transparency, it often happens late night rather than usually when they announce rulings on things like obamacare it happens in nonopen court. Whereas the Texas Abortion Ruling came at 11 58 p. M. It came on the Shadow Docket. It is happening outside the ordinary court procedures, without ordinary process and transparency. In the dark of night. If the majority of people wanted this, why wouldnt you do it out in the open. These rulings are temporary. What does that mean for the Texas Abortion Law . Is there a chance that it can still be blocked . So it is temporary. It could still be blocked. It can be blocked and Texas State courts have done that as to particular providers or particular groups that might sue to enforce the law. The case now goes back to lower courts. They could decide the law is unconstitutional. It could come back if Someone sued an Abortion Provider and said you violated the law and the Abortion Provider could as the Supreme Court said in its opinion say but the law is unconstitutional. And that could bubble back up to the Supreme Court. But meanwhile, it is temporary, but there are real world implications. If youre pregnant in texas now, you cant get an abortion. No, you cannot. Thank you for joining us. You made us smarter. We have to turn. We have Breaking News from d. C. , President Biden is expected to sign an Executive Order requiring the vaccine for all federal workers and contractors. I am going straight to Mike Memoli. Give us the details . Reporter i mentioned when we spoke a little bit ago we would get more details through the day about what the president is laying out as part of the six Prong Plan for fighting covid19. One of those has to do with the issue of mandates. This is not Something that the White House, we talked about this before, politically or legally feels they can order in terms of the entire country on ordinary americans. He believes he has ground to order the vaccination of all federal workers. More than 2 Million who are part of the federal Work Force. In july, the president ordered them to impose Vaccine Requirement or regular testing, that they would have to regular test to agencies that they were tested and tested negative. What the president intends to do today is to essentially take the last option out of the equation. You have to be vaccinated to show up at work. Going through the day, two of the biggest pieces of what the president is unveiling today, the Executive Order on the federal Work Force in terms of vaccinations and the effort to keep schools safe as they reopen across the country, and that has to do with pushing states to use federal money to test students, teachers and all those in the school. Michael, thank you. Lets turn back to Breaking News from afghanistan. First time since august 30th, ten days, we expect an international flight, Carrying Americans and other foreigners to leave kabul today. Thats great news for 200 people on board that flight. Theres still no word on fate of hundreds of others on Charter Flights in northern afghanistan days ago. But the taliban hasnt allowed them to leave. They claim Some of the passengers do not have the required documentation. While there are limits to what we can do without perSonnel on the ground, without an airport with normal Security Procedures in place, we are working to do everything in our power to support those flights and to get them off the ground. Getting out of afghanistan is just the first step. Refugees are being sent to all corners of the globe to start new lives and are going to need help. Wednesday, President Biden named a veteran diplomat to lead the effort to resettle refugees. To discuss, bring in a former marine Infantry Officer who served two tours in iraq. Cofounder of a project that addresses Mental Health Needs in the military. And founder of the Group Iraq in afghanistan, veterans of america, host of a favorite of mine, independent americans podcast, newest show marks the 20th Verse of 9 11. The flight making it out of kabul, 200 americans on it. You know, it is like everything having to do with the withdrawal. This is not a good news story. There are as many as 100 americans Left Behind, Hundreds Of Thousands of afghan allies Left Behind, flights havent left in ten days. The debacle in afghanistan continues to unfold, many back here in america feel like the Afghanistan War is over. It is not over for the afghan people or for our allies or for the veterans back home like zack and others working to get people out and resettle people here at home. Were going to say never forget. We have to never forget whats happening in afghanistan now, it is about our core american values, and it has been the Great American Betrayal Of Afghanistan and of our american values, and the impact that others like me made on the ground. You worked on getting a private chartered flight out of afghanistan. What happened . Were still trying to get them out. In fact, it is two flights. A lot of folks stepped up to the plate, lot of organizations and Ad Hoc groups trying to get people out of afghanistan. And theres no planning. No structure in place. So we are still working on it. These groups include u. S. Citizens that were not able to get out. Antony blinken in the run up to the segment said were trying to do everything in our power. I dont think we are trying to do everything in our power. If we are, thats a serious indictment of our status as a super power, that were not able to get people out of afghanistan, in particular, u. S. Citizens and those that did So much serving by our side in the last two decades of war. People youre trying to get out who have been waiting the last few days, are they safe . Whats going on with those Left Behind . I am not going to talk about where they are, who they are, or if theyre safe or not. The fact is people are not safe. Thats why we are trying to get them out. There has been no planning in place by the u. S. Government for this effort, in many cases the u. S. Government has been the greatest barrier. Story came out couple weeks ago that said we as a country are capable of individual heroics. Thats Something we have seen the last couple of weeks, heroism on the ground from our troops, from Civil Servants, from groups of veterans and Civil Servants stepped up to the plate, trying to network, get people out they dont want to leave behind. We as a country are no longer capable of doing big heroic things and thats what were seeing play out in afghanistan leaving So many behind. Gentlemen, lets shift gears, talk 9 11. Paul, you were out there right after it happened, trying to help recover people, bodies from Ground Zero. 20 years later, you said it, we always say, well never forget, but what does that mean to you and other first responders, what do you remember and what do you want us to . 20 years went by pretty fast. Every time around this time of year it is hard for people that were there because we were So adversely impacted, perSonally connected. We never forget every day. We think about people we lost, we think about people impacted and people struggling now with long Term Health impacts. Thats one part of never forget, recognizing that 9 11 first responders and survivors, kids that went to the high school, people that lived in the area are struggling with adverse health effects. Yesterday we lost another first responder to 9 11 health impacts. Never forget means understanding it is not over, whether it is in Ground Zero, whether it is in afghanistan, whether it is our forever war, this is all interconnected and never for getting means staying connected to whats happening, and understanding Foreign Policy and domestic policy have never been more closely impacted. This weekend, if you want to do Something to help, there are ways to help. Support 9 11 first responders. Theres a tremendous Hockey Game Tonight at madiSon square garden. And you can honor values by Helping Zack and veterans resettling allies. Thats a true part, remembering the power of our unity and never for getting. Zack, what are your thoughts . I agree with paul. Means never leaving anyone behind, never for getting. I think it alSo means when you look to the future, look to the present, how you choose to live your life, the difference and impact you want to have. One of the most important lesSons as a young kid, lost a close friend in traffic in a car accident, at his funeral the rabbi said we have now an obligation to live our life for john. So for those that we lost on 9 11, for those we lost in the wars that followed, we have an obligation to live our lives as individuals, as veterans, as americans, to honor their sacrifice, to make it mean Something and be worthy of their sacrifice. Thats Something that we should all think about not just on 9 11 but every day. Grateful for the sacrifice. Do our part every day to be stronger, better, kinder to others. Thank you for everything you do. Thanks for joining us this morning. Well be right back. Is morning. Well be right back. Was another around the corner . Or could things take a different turn . I wanted to help protect myself. My doctor recommended eliquis. Eliquis is proven to treat and help prevent another Dvt Or Pe blood clot. 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For the first time, his brother is speaking out. Catie beck is digging into this story. Whats the latest . Reporter the Murdaugh Family has remained mostly quiet as prosecutors continue to work their case. The brother of Alec Murdagh is making a rare public statement and that shooting on saturday may have been caught on videotape. Taking several new turns. Wednesday, Alec Muchlt rdaughs brother, randy, speaking out, saying he was shocked to learn of alecs alleged Drug Addiction and suspected financial crimes, adding while i will support him in his recovery, i do not support, condone or excuse his conduct in stealing by manipulating his most trusted relationships. Randy murdaugh spoke out in support of his brother earlier this year after alex told police he discovered his wife, maggie and Son, paul, murdered in june. His voice to fear, he was just distraught. Reporter Alex Murdaugh revealed he was leaving the firm and going to rehab. His Family Release Aid statement saying alex hopes that his conduct does not distract from Law Enforcement in the murder of his Son'>Wife And Son, paul. Here along this did he say late Country Road is where Alex Murdaugh said he was shot after getting a flat tire. As it turns out, theres a church nearby with a Surveillance Camera pointed near the incident. Church leaders tell us that investigators confiscated that videotape before anyone had a chance to watch it. Its unclear what, if anything, the video showed. State authorities are still investigating the alleged shooting and have not named any suspects or made any arrests. This Summers String of shocking events is shining new light on old incidents involving the Murdaugh Family, including the 2018 wrongful Death Settlement of Gloria Satterfield who, according to nbc affiliate wcbd, was murdaughs house keeper. Court documents say the 57yearold woman died as a result of a Trip And Fall accident in hampton county. Alex murdaugh was listed as a defendant, though his possible role in the accident is unclear. South Carolina Investigators arent releasing any new information about these. The incidence of violence is rare and theyre concerned about the growing number of unSolved cases. Im Catie Beck for Nbc News in South carolina. This story makes no sense. We have got a lot more questions and we are going to stay on it. Catie beck, thank you. And thank you for watching this very busy hour. Im stephanie ruhle. Hallie jackSon picks up breaking News Coverage on the other side of the break. Cancel your plans tomorrow. Whatever you do, i want you in front of the television at 9 00 a. M. Ill head down to Ground Zero as we mark the anniversary of 9 11. 20 years. A lot has happened across those 20 years. Theres a lot of lives, lot of heroes who deserve to be honored. , lot of heroes who deserve to be honored. Suv is always there with them. So when their windshield got a chip, they wanted it fixed fast. 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This is a big deal. Weve got new reporting on what that looks like. Thats not all. The president is set to call on all of the nations schools to set up regular testing for covid. That is what we are being told. Well talk about that and what else he plans to lay out in his speech tonight. Plus freedom now for Some 200 people, including americas, who are currently in the air, literally minutes ago, out of afghanistan, headed for qatar, taking off from Kabul On Board the first flight out since u. S. Forces withdrew last month. Reporters in the region, in qatar, standing by live. Good morning, im Son'>Hallie JackSon in washington, as we juggle these two big stories as we come on the air. Mike memoli is at the White House. Medical Contributor Dr. Kavita patel, who served as Health Policy Adviser during the obama administration. Mike, couple of things were learning about that the president is expected to unveil tonight. Mandatory Vaccination Move for federal

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