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Lawmakers, the committee is pursuing the group, accidentally sending a letter to the wrong ceo in an attempt to stop data being being turned over the letter sent to the exceo was one of a dozen companies to defy the request to preserve Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/phone-records'>Phone Records. This led to the question of what it Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/it-s-mccarthy'>It S Mccarthy hiding . Another question the democrats want to know was how deeply was the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/president-involvement'>President Involvement . You know whats interesting, thats where Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement goes. The fbi has investigated this. The senate had bipartisan committees Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And come back. You know what they have found . That theres no involvement. Were going to get reaction to that. The committees bipartisan committee coming back pretty quickly. Bracing for the justice for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th rally, in support of the 500 plus rioters charged with crimes in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th insurrection. Joining me, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/neal-katyal'>Neal Katyal Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And susan del percio. I appreciate you joining me Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And laboring alongside me. Neil, i kind of want to get a fact check. The republicans saying as to why they issued this letter, this tHreat, to some companies. They said the republican architects of these new letters say that would violate federal law Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And we put every american in the cross Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hairs-of-a-state-run'>Hairs Of A State Run by democrat politicians. That was leader kevin mccarthy. What do you make of that, neal . I think the technical term for that argument is poppycock. There are 50 different pleas after Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And 600 arrests, but anyone who has a tv Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And saw what happened on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th knows that thats just the tip. Iceberg. There are far more people involved including people in government. What congress is trying to do is to say to the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/phone-companies'>Phone Companies, preserve these records, just dont destroy them. They havent necessarily swhad say what they want or what theyre going to look at. We dont trust the individuals in congress not to delete their own Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/phone-records'>Phone Records so thats why theyre going to the teleHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/phone-companies'>Phone Companies. Nobody thinks that mccarthy in this letter is right legally. Its preposterous. There is Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/attorney-client-privilege'>Attorney Client Privilege in the law but theres no legislator conspirator privilege. The tHreat here is kind of like trumps tHreat against the big technical companies, its unserious, but legally theres nothing to it Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And thats why they cant cite to a law thats been violated. If this were the law, you would have the ability to investigate members of congress when theyre accused of serious wrong doing. Thats just an insane thing, particularly for something like this, the worst attack on the capitol in two centuries. Is there nothing legally wrong, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/neal-katyal'>Neal Katyal, with going about a congressional investigation this way, tHreatening folks inside of an investigation that are trying to subpoena information . Nothing wrong if youre a mob boss. But if youre a member of congress Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And you believe that your job is to uphold the law, the i dethat youre so afraid of a duly authorized Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/enforcement-investigation'>Enforcement Investigation that you wont even turn over your Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/phone-records'>Phone Records or let the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/phone-companies'>Phone Companies do it, that is the start of Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mob-rule'>Mob Rule which is what Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th was about. Theres nothing legally the idea that congress knows best Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And they can commit crimes willynilly Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And american Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/investigators-cant'>Investigators Cant even find out what they did. The whole idea of checks Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And balances go out the window if they were to abide by mccarthy Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And what other republicans are asking of them. I want to remind people what mccarthy said on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-13th'>January 13th, days after the insurrection. The president bears responsibility for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/wednesdays-attack'>Wednesdays Attack on congress by mob rioters. He should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. These facts require immediate action by Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/president-donald-trump'>President Donald Trump. Accept his share of responsibility. Quell the brewing unrest. Im trying to figure out how this even happened, right, how this transition happens from Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-13th'>January 13th when you got a lot of folks saying, well, at least hes now saying this, hes now holding the then Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/president-donald-trump'>President Donald Trump responsible to now saying the president had no involvement with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th. What is the motivation here for mccarthy . I just wish that line could be played by anyone who interviews or talks to mccarthy for the foreseeable future. Play that one line, trump bears responsibility. For the pivot, all it took was one trick to maralago. He went down to florida that same month Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And kissed the ring of trump. And what weve seen since has been a regular cadence of him bowing down to trump Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And playing to an audience of one. Hes doing that for his own electoral interests. But him aligning himself in these interviews shows how far hes willing to go Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And potentially previews how he will behave if he is given the house speakership. Im sure hes protecting more than trump with these lies. We know multiple members of the republican conference have now recalled all of a sudden, multiple calls they had with trump, theyre also concerned about the fact that these requests at telecommunications who else do you think hes protecting . Taylor greene, bogart, jordan, gates, anyone who has those are the folks whose names were on the letter whose names were sent from the corporation. Thats exactly right. 12 republicans were potentially listed as having their records flagged Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And requested to not be deleted at the telecommunications firm. The select committee says theyre not necessarily going to lead to further questions, they can connect the dots. Who was giving tours . What video is on their phone. I hope the select committee is emboldened by this response that were seeing from mccarthy Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And others in the gop because it shows theyre on the right track Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And the gop is feeling the heat. Susan, youve been in this position before, figuring out the strategy for folks like mccarthy as to how to deal with what seems to be a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ballooning-problem'>Ballooning Problem for them when it comes to the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th committee Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And the investigation into what happened on that day. Right . What is the strategy behind mccarthy doing this . So there is obviously this consensus amongst the tHree of you that they are trying to hide something, right . That mccarthy along with other republicans are trying to hide something. Is this a p. R. Strategy ahead of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mid-terms'>Mid Terms because they know the timing of the release of the findings of this investigation could very welcome right before the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mid-terms'>Mid Terms Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And they certainly want to look like theyve been selling this thing from the getgo to their supporters. Well, i think mccarthy has two things to do. One, he has to please trump because he wants to raise money Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And he needs Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trumps support to potentially take back the house in the 2022 Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/mid-terms'>Mid Terms, but most of all i see this all as a delay tactic, trying to delay things as much as possible. Its exactly what Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump did when he was president Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And in the private sector. This is to delay, delay, deny, deny Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And hope that just keep going forward with that narrative, keep tHrowing things out there. THrow out big tech because why not . They cant even get the name of the head of one of the companies right. Thats not great. Whatever strategy they may be trying to pursue, i dont have a lot of faith in that as far as their competency, but i think thats all they can do is trying to talk a talk Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And most of all trying to please Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/donald-trump'>Donald Trump. I dont think it will be successful. I think mccarthy is driven out of pure fear. I think he knows that theres other things besides what members may have done. There may be lines connecting people to following the money, to following people back into certain districts that could be very scary for him, especially as hes looking at raising a lot of money nationally. So theres a lot at stake here Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And he is afraid. I want to mention marissa mayor, she didnt step down yesterday, she stepped down in 2017, that was way before all of our lives changed dradramatical especially with the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>Andemic-Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And-everything'>PHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>Andemic And Everything else thats happened since then. Neal katyal, there is this idea that the president could easily claim Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/executive-privilege'>Executive Privilege when calling for some of these documents. The former president i should say, by the way. He can try Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hell-wale'>Hell Wale against Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/executive-privilege'>Executive Privilege but the fact is hes lost the presidency Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And the final decision under the law who can invoke Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/executive-bridge'>Executive Bridge is the current president. And if i were trump, i wouldnt be holding my breath. But i think what was said was right. These are delay tactics. Theyve already worked. Today is september 6th. It is eight months to the day from when this attack on our nation happened Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And we still dont have answers to basic questions because of republican obstruction. They first wanted to block a committee altogether Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And now theyre invoking all these fake privileges to try to hide the truth from the american people. It will eventually not work but i think its a real shame here we are eight months later Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And we dont know the answer to a lot of basic questions. September 18th there is this rahal planned on saturday, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/september-18th'>September 18th, im not going to be covering the rally live for folks. It seems as though it supposed to celebration of the insurrectionists planned by a former Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/trump-campaign'>Trump Campaign operationalists. We have our next rally planned, in the middle of september, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/september-18th'>September 18th Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And it going to be huge. Whats going to define it is where its going to take place. Were going back to the capitol, right where it started. Were going to have members of congress speak, were going to continue to raise the volume Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And push back against this phony Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/narrative-Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And-demHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And'>Narrative And DemHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And justice for these political prisoners. Juanita, what do you make of this . It fully aligns with members of congress trying to retell the story, even though we have Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/video-foot'>Video Foot Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And of the way these violent attackers, because thats what they were, violent attackers scaled the wall of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/capitol-building'>Capitol Building Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And tHreatened the lives of everyone in that building, as well as the surrounding community. I make of this a degree of frustration because while this organizer sees this as celebrating Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And marking the date Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And marking the location of the capitol, whats frustrating to me is the trauma that was endured by everyone who was in that building Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And in the surrounding communities because people forget that d. C. Is comprised of regular Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/human-beings'>Human Beings trying to go about their daytoday lives. So im concerned about the trauma that individuals around the capitol Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And in the capitol will feel Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And even recalling what happened on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th, but i am glad to hear that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/law-enforcement'>Law Enforcement officials Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And federal agencies are taking note Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And taking this as a serious potential tHreat Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And taking preparations as needed. Susan, it doesnt seem as though these people are necessarily concerned with recognizing the trauma that folks felt on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th when those insurrectionists stormed the capitol. No, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And this is grHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And stHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>Anding. I do have one other concern outside of the capitol. Almost a year ago militia were arrested for trying to kidnap Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And kill Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/governor-whitmer'>Governor Whitmer of michigan. These Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/militia-groups'>Militia Groups have been growing as we saw from last october into the insurrection, but now theres also a national network of these or just within the state. So i do hope that capitols are being fortified Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And that theres a lot of attention being paid to the groups in individual states in addition to the capitol because i do see that as a very big potential dangerous situation for many. Neal, can we talk about that for one moment because with all that has been going on in our government, right, in our country, it seems as if especially the biden administration, right, has been inundated with so much to do when it comes to infrastructure, to the reconciliation bill, the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/pHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>Andemic-Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And-afghanistan'>PHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>Andemic And Afghanistan Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And so on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And so forth. What there is is this pervasive problem which has been been put on the back burner, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And what susan talked about, these Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/militia-groups'>Militia Groups that are huge tHroughout the country Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And that are growing. Is this government doing enough . I do think the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/white-house'>White House is doing a lot with the militia stuff. They appointed Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/josh-getser'>Josh Getser at the national Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/security-council'>Security Council to run this Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And have had extensive work being done. Im a little worried about congress Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And the security there. I was just talking to just a college intern yesterday. I asked him, you know what was the most prizing thing about your internship over the summer Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And i thought hed Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/answer-ben-sass'>Answer Ben Sass or something like that. He said a lack of security at the capitol. He said he can lack around there, go anywhere, they barely check his idea. This is eight months after Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/january-6th'>January 6th. Im very worried about that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And whats going on in terms of security at the u. S. Capitol Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And also state Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/capitol-building'>Capitol Buildings. Ive heard that as well. Neal katyal, susan, ill see you at the top of the next hour so thanks for sticking with us. Coming up, everybody, new backlash over gop governors Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/fighting-safety-measures'>Fighting Safety Measures for student as the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/delta-variant'>Delta Variant surges across the south. Plus the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/biden-justice-department'>Biden Justice Department stepping up to protect womens rights after that antichoice law in texas. Were going to explain. And later on, a big update on the criminal probe into the trump organization. Stay with us. Ent from no to know. 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In texas where republican Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/governor-greg-abbott'>Governor Greg Abbott just lost his legal fight to ban mask mHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>Andates in school, at least what Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/district-courts'>District Courts shut down. And then you go to florida. 15 Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/miami-dade-school'>Miami Dade School staffers have died from covid in just ten days. And nationally a pillar of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/safety-net'>Safety Net ended this weekend expHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>Anded Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/unemployment-insurance'>Unemployment Insurance leaving millions in limbo, heading to the fall with so much still unsure. To the head of the american Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/teachers-association'>Teachers Association lashing out now at some governors. We got to get these governors to stop their madness, some their irresponsibility. They are morally reprehensible for making us have these fights about mask mHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>Andates. Mara, im going to have you weigh in first on what we just heard from weingarten. Shes talking about Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/greg-abbott'>Greg Abbott Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/ron-desantis'>Ron Desantis politicizing the mask mHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>Andate. Do you think this could come back to bite this many politically, especially as we get further Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And further into the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/winter-season'>Winter Season . I do. I think unfortunately as people continue to get sick, to suffer, to see their Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/loved-ones'>Loved Ones die, i do believe that you will eventually see a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/sea-change'>Sea Change even in some more conservative areas about the vaccine or at least about mask mHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>Andates Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And other safety precautions. But as per usual, unfortunately, these republican governors are playing the shortterm Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/game-Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And-thinking'>Game And Thinking of their own shortterm political selfinterests. They also dont want to become the target, right, of rightwing campaigns against them. And i think that is a factor that should also be considered. Now, thats not to give them credit. They should actually just do their job. But that is the environment were living in. Doctor, lets talk about the science of all this. Im about to send my kid back to school, september 13th, thats when new Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/york-city'>York City Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/state-schools'>State Schools are back in session. And im worried. I think a lot of parents are worried. When you look at one of five new cases in the last week of august, they were kids. How worried should parents be right now . I wish i could give you reassurance about the statistics but as long as we have a pHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>Andemic out of control in adults, were going to see that filter down into our kids. The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hospital-rates'>Hospital Rates have also increased five fold in the last couple of months in children, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And there appears also to be an inverse relationship to those Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/hospitalization-rates'>Hospitalization Rates Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And e. R. Visits with the rates of vaccination in the community. So not surprisingly again that the adults in the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/room-need'>Room Need to do their part Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And become vaccinated, you know, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And to your point specifically about those kids who are too young to be vaccinated, that of course is the biggest concern. Hence the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/american-academy-of-pediatrics'>American Academy Of Pediatrics has urged what they refer to as layered litigation. So kids over the age of 12 need to be vaccinated Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And all the other things need to be done, mask related Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And frequent testing Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And all of those things ad nauseam. Here we are at the beginning of the school year, we thought we were going to catch a break for a moment. I found what dr. Murphy, the surgeon general, said. Really interesting. I want to read it to you, dr. Azhar. He, it is really important that we convey that success does not equal no cases. Success looks like very few people in the hospital Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And very few dying. I see this two ways Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And i want to kind of get your assessment. But the way im seeing it is, a, were going to see more Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And more breaktHrough cases is what im hearing from him here. And, b, were going to live with covid for a long time. Yeah, i think both of those things are true. You know, i think weve all now sat back Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And had a moment to think about the impact of the extraordinarily effective Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And efficacy numbers that we quoted for both mnra vaccines very early when they rolled out Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And that seemed to equate with an expectation that if you were protected, you know, 95 against symptomatic infection that you would never get a sniffle. I have this conversation very frequently now, even with my own husbHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And, as well as patients, when we talk about the third dose rather than calling it a booster, were trying to switch the nomenclature a little bit to say perhaps we need a third dose to complete the series for Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/covid19-vaccination'>Covid19 Vaccination Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And say how much more protected from hospitals Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And deaths do you need to be . If its greater than 90 , thats really, really good Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And we need to get comfortable that we experience a flulike illness with covid19 but youre not going to die. Now, if youre living with some with compromised Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/immunity-system'>Immunity System that, mild infection holds much more significance. I think its important to start shifting our idea of what our relationship to covid19 is Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And when it will become an endemic Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/infection-Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And-part'>Infection And Part of our lives. You have this raging variant right now, the mu variant, its now a variant of interest. Im going to ask dr. Azhar to weigh in in a moment. You have the end of benefits in certain states, some cutting it off better than others. News saying 26 states ended unemployment benefits. It is not getting people back to work. There was this theory that the second they extended unemployment benefits, folks would get back to work. Well, thats not what happened. Im wondering if there is a sense that this is also just a Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/fear-factor'>Fear Factor because we are still in the tHroes of this thing. You know, i dont believe that the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/persuasion-campaign'>Persuasion Campaign to get americans who are unvaccinated vaccinated should end. I do think that there is a majority of americans who are saying to themselves i am not going back to work or to school necessarily unless i know that those around me are vaccinated Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And are taking covid seriously. And i think in some ways this is part of what is driving those numbers that youre talking about. A majority of americans do actually fear this virus. And understHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And the science, they respect it. Theyve taken steps to protect themselves Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And their families Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And they have a healthy fear. And i think, you know, part of what needs to shift is we need to understHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And not only the anxieties of those who are vaccine hesitant or resistant but we also need to have a healthy respect for everybody, first of all, but also for the lives Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And health of everybody else because i think people have a right to be protected from the unvaccinated. And we are not really talking about that. That is a serious concern for millions of americans. Doctor, last word to you Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And i want you to give us the a, b, cs of this new variant, what we need to know, this variant that could possibly evade vaccines. Right. So remember that when a variant becomes a variant of interest or concern, its displaying its go doing a couple of things or one thing at all, increased transmissibility, causing increased illness are invading protection from a vaccine or natural immunity. The combination of mutations theyre seeing in the new variant is concerning for evasion of protection as you mentioned, but a very, very important thing to remember is that we have not seen that yet in real life. This is something that theyre just sort of studying the biology of this variant Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And this is what they are seeing this is how it starts. Its something that dr. Fauci has assured Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/all-of-us'>All Of Us that they are watching very closely. If we start to see significantly increased transmissibility with this variant, then youve got two out of the tHree problems happening Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And that becomes much more of a concern. If Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/it-kind'>It Kind of burns out, it wont really make a difference but its certainly something the experts are watching right now. I think everyone watching took as big of a breath as i just did. Happy labor day, by the way, thank you for joining us. Coming up, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/saturday-marks'>Saturday Marks 20 years since the attacks on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/september-11th'>September 11th. What does the future of afghanistan look like now . Also today on this holiday, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/attorney-general'>Attorney General garlHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And made major news on protecting womens rights. All that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And news on the trump criminal case. Stay with us. A lot more Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/coming-up'>Coming Up, folks. The Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/texas-law'>Texas Law demolishing womens legal rights in texas is facing a national fight. Today Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/attorney-general'>Attorney General Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/merrick-garlHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And'>Merrick GarlHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And reacting. The feds across the country are on notice with congress coming back. Speaker pelosi vowing to have a vote. What about the senate . And where are they on the rights Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And freedoms for women . This issue just one of many hugely important pieces to president Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/bidens-agenda'>Bidens Agenda coming into focus as the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/summer-break'>Summer Break ends. Joining me is senator maisie hirono. Give me your reaction to the statement he released today on the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/texas-law'>Texas Law. Im glad hes saying there better not be any kind of violence or any other kind of efforts to stop women from getting other Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/health-care'>Health Care services. But, you know, theres been such fear Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/chilling-effect'>Chilling Effect Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And the chaos thats resulting in texas as a reality of what theyre doing over there, followed by other states that want to follow, too, by the way. This is an attack on womens Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/health-care'>Health Care. Thats how i see it. It seems as if the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Courts decision, the majority at the supreme Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/court-decision'>Court Decision basically said, listen, they found a loophole. Texas found a loophole Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And other states will likely follow, a few conservative states. 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Im hopeful that Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/merrick-garlHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And'>Merrick GarlHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And will use whatever he can. And there is another opportunity at the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court that will give them an opportunity to overturn roe v. Wade. I think he should intervene Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And argue against whatever the state is doing. Its mississippi Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And their restrictive laws. So there are things that we can do. At the same time what should be happening is that every state should be codifying roe v. Wade has hawaii did a couple of years ago because Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/thee-laws'>Thee Laws are being enacted at Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/state-legislatures'>State Legislatures all across the country Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And thats where we need to take the fight. Lets talk about codifying roe v. Wade in the federal. Obviously the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/supreme-court'>Supreme Court will be hearing the case in the fall Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And well see where they lHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And on that. Codifying roe v. Wade when it comes to federal law, Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/obviously-speakerpelosi'>Obviously Speakerpelosi thinks shes going to bring this to a vote. What is the likelihood it will get to the senate . I think a lot of folks looking to make this law, thats what theyre worried about. Its another reason we should get rid of the filibuster so we dont have to have a super majority to get anything important done in the senate. Thats what we ought to be pursuing. Yet another reason. Voting rights Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And so many other issues are being stymied in the senate. That means we have to get ten republicans to vote with the democrats on these issues Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And that aint happening any time soon. So Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/filibuster-reform'>Filibuster Reform should be on our agenda. Youre talking about Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/filibuster-reform'>Filibuster Reform. This was talked about when it kams to Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/voting-rights'>Voting Rights as well. Senator manchesteron coming ou Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And saying, no, no, no, filibuster staying in place. Are there Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/phone-calls'>Phone Calls being made Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And conversations being what . I sure are those conversations happening when it comes to Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/phil-buster'>Phil Buster now riding on Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/voting-rights'>Voting Rights Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And this texas bill . I certainly hope so Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And i expect that these conversations are happening because the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/kr-p'>Kr P democrats want to get these issues addressed. If we want to do the family american plan that will able Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And my hope is that at some point your husbHref='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And will say, yeah, we got to get these things done Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And we cant wait around to see the light. They are not going to see the light. They are going to do everything they can to stop these bills from being enacted. Have you ever had a conversation with Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/senator-joe-manchesteron'>Senator Joe Manchesteron about this . Yes. And do you think hell change his mind . Still working on it. A political answer from the senator, to be expected on this labor day. Senator mir own owe, thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. 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In i chyron you put up Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And talked about about the cost of war, another important measure that gets ignored is the war killed by Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/conservative-estimates'>Conservative Estimates 160,000 afghans Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And we must never remember that, we must never forget that. Youre absolutely right. Its not you the loss of americans that served overseas there but the countless innocent lives, afghan innocent lives lost as well tHroughout this 20year war. Spencer, i want to read a quote from your book. Its very telling as to what were dealing with right now. Trump recognized that the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/9-11'>9 11 eras grotesque subtext, the perception of nonwhites as marauders, even as conquerers from a hostile civilization was its engine. 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And trump came along Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And recognized that the subtext of the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/war-on-terror'>War On Terror was all that was really necessary to harness that feeling Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And use it for his political benefit. And as long as the Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/war-on-terror'>War On Terror remains, as long as the authorities remain, the the tools remain, the operations perhaps not necessarily so central, then that danger to our democracy is going to remain. There will be more trumps, they will be more competent, have more opportunities Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And grow in ambition. So how do you change the cycle . You have to break the war entirely. You have to cut it off Href='https://vimarsana.com/news/and-'>And then kill it. 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