Love a man may have for a girl. Steve bannon is laying the groundwork to help steal the next election. All in starts right now. Good evening from New York. Im chris hayes. I saw a Covid Stat Today that blew my mind. The vaccine as we know has been widely available for free to the public for about six months and right now as i speak to you current fatalities from covid in this country are running roughly double what they were a year ago. Before we had vaccines. It seems ununspeakable tragedy. Its maddening and confusing. I think its worth taking a second to understand where we are in the battle against this virus right now. About 62 of those eligible are fully vaccinated in this country, which means we have a whole nation within a nation of unvaccinated folks, right. Tens of millions of people who arent vaccinated, not to mention children. Unvaccinated folks are clustered in areas around each other because its not evenly distributed throughout the population. Areas like gains county, texas, less than 25 of people are fully vaccinated and middlesex county, massachusetts, where more than 75 of people are fully vaccinated. We have a variant which we know from the data is more aggressive and more transmissable. Coupled with basically a total absence of Public Health measures to stop the spread. If you want an informal of the study that, yes, all those interventions that made life so difficult, they did save lives, well, weve got rid of them and now twice as many people are dying. But it is to an extent understandable, the situation we find ourselves in, because heres the thing. Once vaccines came along it became very difficult to justify things like, for instance, shutting down bars and nightclubs or Concert Venues or not having inperson school. I mean, school particularly, right . But these are all important valuable things. Shutting them down came at great cost. A great cost to children, first and foremost. A great cost to the economy. A great cost to our mental well being. Massive societal disruption. When a vaccine came along policymakers couldnt justify the massive cost of those shutdowns. But what that means is the unvaccinated in this country are currently living through a full pandemic without any interventions. And this is what it looks like. Its a horror show. By the way, if you wanted a actual study that these interventions work, we have one of those, too. The largest randomized study, 340,000 people across 600 villages in bangladesh found that, yes, masks work at stoching the spread of the virus. Ill say it again. Masks work. Of the 178,000 or so people encouraged to wear masks in the study, researchers saw Masking Rates increase 30 and as Nbc News reports after the program was instituted the researchers reported 11. 9 decrease in symptomatic covid. So masking goes up 30 , covid goes down 12 . Pretty clear. But this is the conundrum we are in. Access to vaccine, man, you cant go back to the massive largescale social enter vengs. Its harder. So the decide is going to run rampant among the unvaccinated and it will affect vaccinated folks, too. Higher levels of Breakthrough Infections. More Breakthrough Infections more rare cases with the fully vaccinated get severely ill and sometimes even die. This, i think, has become the fundamental challenge facing the biden administratiOn And our society in a way i think much of washingtOn And the political Press Corps failed to grasp because the problem, right, there is a mobilized core of the country whipped up into a deadly friends zpli to oppose All Interventions to stop covid. And thats, well, explicitly not recommended, like a deworming agent, they are into it. For the first several months of that administration they had a clear job. Work out the logistics to get the supply of vaccines out and into arms. And that was a very difficult task and they 100 aced that test. They did. And then the test got more difficult because it turned to the question of demand and human Psychology And Sociology and trust and whether people wanted to take the vaccine and there they have run into a brick wall. A few days ago on this show we showed you some charts which showed that covid deaths are significantly higher in counties that voted for Donald Trump and now we have more information that demonstrates that point. For various reasons, its missing some data from alaska, nebraska and florida, the states that dont report out by county. But the takeaway is clear. Just look at that that. Its rare you get data looking like that. The blue bars are the per capita deaths in the counties that went the most for Joe Biden. As we go from left to right, the counties get more conservative. The Big Red bars on the right per capita deaths in counties that voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump and its clear as day. The more support for trump, the more people that are dying of covid right now. That could change in the future. Its possible partly, this is geographical, where the Delta Variant started and whereet going, but right now thats the picture ever the last two months, its picture of the havoc being wreaked for the Delta Variant. Given all that its also important not to give up hope. Its also important to remember this. Every day in this country we are vaccinating an average of 900,000 people, which means there are folks two days ago who decided to get vaccinated and three days ago and four days ago and woke up this morning and wanted to get vaccinated, almost A Million of them. And the polling shows the amount of people that are going to definitely not get the vaccine is now at the lowest level. Very encouraging. Its gone down to only 20 . Even when it feels like the situation is just overwhelming and defeating, also remember there are people on the ground every day doing the crucial work and there has been progress, but we are now approaching the fall. School is reopening in person across the country. We all remember what last winter looked like. The former Fda Commissioner is warning the worst is yet to come. I think our true Delta Wave will build after Labor Day in the northeast and northern part of the country. This will be a highly regionalized epidemic. Labor day and the return of school are going to be incubators for spread. I dont think that we can conclude that just because the cases are coming down from the mini surge over the summer. Now this is the biggest test for the american public, for the biden administration, for all levels of government, republican, democrat, to find a way to have a safe and thriving fall and winter. Dr. Anthony fauci, director of the national institute of allergy and infectious decides. He has been the face of public Health Guidance in this country as we enter a potentially troubling fall and winter. Lets start, dr. Fauci, with scott gottliebs view on this and whether you share it, that we are in for the regional centers of this to move out of the sort of South And Southwest that they have been in and into the northeast and that its going to be a bad fall and winter. Well, what he said, i agree with. I hope thats not the case, but it does have the makings when you get over a Holiday Weekend like the Labor Day weekend and then start going into the fall. You have children coming Back To School en masse, you know, there will be Hundreds Of Thousands, if not millions of kids coming Back To School. All of those ingredients together could actually lead to a resurgence of cases, and thats what were concerned about. Whats the Magic Number . I mean, i looked at this has been this question all along, right . The thing i think we all want is for covid to end up like Polio And Smallpox or like chickenpox, right . Just a thing we dont worry about any more. Extinguished. Stamped out by the miracle of vaccination. There is some number which that happens. We are clearly not that there. Singapore is up to 80 . They seem to be rappelling it. Do we know what that number is and is that even a thing we are thinking about, is the explicit Policy North Star goal . We dont know what that number is. Its interesting. It doesnt need to be facetious about, but you know it when you see it. You know, when you are dealing with a disease like measles, its a very contagious, very transmissable disease, but the level of vaccination that you need in the community to get individuals to be free in the sense of having what we generally refer to as the concept of Herd Immunity where you dont have any vulnerable targets or very, very few and the virus has no place to go. Thats generally when you talk about when you say Herd Immunity. For measles, thats over 90 . I dont know what it is for sarscov2. But you will no what it is when you get the overwhelming majority of people vaccinated and you start to see the number of cases plummet. And when they do, and go down to the point of almost disappearing, whatever that percentage is, thats what it is. But remember rather than trying to figure out what the number is, i think we have to do what you were hinting out in your introduction to the show, is to say weve got to get adds many people vaccinated as we possibly can. We have somewhere around 80 Million, 75, 80 Million people who are eligible to be vaccinated in this country who are not yet vaccinated. We have got to get them vaccinated because you see all of the numbers show the vulnerability of unvaccinated people, which, in fact, can spill over, as you suggested, into the vaccinated people because if you keep a lot of the virus dynamically circulating in the community, you are going to get Breakthrough Infections among the vaccinated people. And some of them, very few, we know, but some of them are going to get seriously ill. So it cuts both ways. You have the vulnerability of the unvaccinated, and the threat by keeping the dynamics of the virus alive in the community, you have a threat to everyone, including the vaccinated people. Lets talk about the one population of unvaccinated americans that are a topic of tremendous concern right now, which are children under 12. First of all, there is been some criticism the fda is too slow on this. I imagine you dont want to secondguess the fda. Lots of people on the internet like doing that. But do we have a sense of a timeline on Children Vaccination for children under 12 . Yeah. Lets take two products, the Pfizer And Moderna products. If you look at the clinical trials that are ongoing with the data that are being collected for both safety and Im Eungenicity which is a surrogate of predicting you would be protected against infection, middle end of september, in the next few weeks, end of september or so, you will have enough data for pfizer for them to apply for an emergency use authorization. Moderna is a little bit behind. They are probably going to be the end of october, the beginning of november. At that point when they submit to the fda, remember, you cant criticize the fda for moving slowly unless the companies submit the data to the fda. For example, to apply for an emergency use authorization. When they do, the fda is going to make a determination, is this truly an Emergency Situation . And if it is, they will seriously consider an eua. That being the case, if they do that, and thats an if, i dont want to secondguess them, then you could probably have approval for at least one of the products as you get into october. But, again, you cant get ahead of the fda, but thats at least a possibility. Okay. Thats a useful the cdc releasing some data, i think, tomorrow which they previewed today on children and delta. I want to read from part of it. The weekly Hospitalization Rate per 100,000 children during the week ending August 14th was nearly five times. Rate during the week ending June 26th among children aged 0 to 4 years. The weekly Hospitalization Rate ending August 14 was ten times that during the week ending june 26. There is a question here of is it the case that this is more dangerous for kids than previous variants and is that what the data is saying . It doesnt necessarily say that, chris. What it says, we know delta is a bad actor. It transmits extremely efficiently. So you are seeing more people, everyone, adults and children, getting infected. The more children getting infected, a certain proportion of them are going to require hospitalization. And the more children get infected, the more kids you are going to see that are going to require hospitalization. We do not know yet we dont have enough data, chris, to say that on a child by Child Basis its much more severe, delta. It might be there is some hints that it is more severe in adults. So you might be able to extrapolate that maybe its going to be more severe in children. But from the data we have, the only thing we know is that more children are getting infected and the more kids that get infected, more of them are going to wind up in the hospital, and thats what that mmwr tells you. I want to be really bother clooer on this because its something parents are thinking about a lot. What i just read is the total Hospitalization Rate for you a all children. You are saying thats going up because all children are getting much more covid. Covid is moving through children because delta is more transmissable. Its not definitively established that the percentage of children getting covid, there is of kids that get covid, there is a higher likelihood of being hospitalized with covid compared to previous rounds of the disease, which is the thing that parents are worried about and as of yet is not definitively established by the data. You are correct, chris. That has not been definitively established by the data. What has been definitively established is what you said a moment ago and what i said, that more children are getting infected and, therefore, more of them are going to get hospitalized. We are struggling to get enough data to make a determination of whether or not, as you said, per number of kids infected, is you getting relatively speaking more that are requiring hospitalization. We dont know that yet. Lets talk about boosters. There has been a little Back And Forth on this. Again, i want to be sympathetic to people making determinations under conditions of uncertainty and emerging data. There was appeared an announcement of a recommendation for boosters for people that had been immunized, i think nine months after nine months. Today top federal officials told the White House to scale back that plan to offer Coronavirus Booster shots saying regulators need more time to collect and review all the necessary data according to people familiar with the discussion. What is your understanding where this stands . Well, we had a plan, and you described it correctly, that the plan was, if all other things fell into place, that we could get boosters ready to roll out for people around eight months after the time that the earliest ones were vaccinated and that would start rolling out the week of september the 20th. We had hoped that we would be able to do it simultaneously with pfizer and with moderna. As it turns out now, the information necessary to do that with pfizer is there. It still has to go through the recommendation of the advisory committee on immunization practices. It does not appear from a timing standpoint that the information that you would need for moderna is going to be in time for september the 20th. It may be a delay for a few weeks. We dont know. But there is now a discordance between the two products as to when it would be ready to be approved for a boost. All right. Dr. Anthony fauci, as always, appreciate you taking the time to talk through this stuff with us and our viewers. Thanks a lot. Good to be with you, chris. Thank you for having me. All right. The Texas Abortion Bill left in place by a narrow 54 majority of the Supreme Court this week is so extreme that republicans wont talk about it. And other states are planning to replicate the radical Texas Law. 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But for the most part, all right, those who believe abortion should be legal has consistently over the years been ahead of those who think it should be outlawed. What opponents of abortion have tried to do when they are start of waging their battle for public opinion is to focus on edge cases. For example, socalled partial birth abortions, abortions that are very, very late term, because that has less public support and it brings the public more to their side. But because the Texas Law is so extreme, so cruel and so dystopian, were seeing it become essentially indefensible. Texas appellate Lawyer Raphi medical conian makes that point by highlighting the fact that according to the law, the tach stoer language, you can be sued if you intend to engage in the conduct of helping someone get an abortion. Wait a second. Think about that for a second. If you intend to engage in it . If you are in texas right now sitting there and thinking, i want to help someone get an abortion, you can be sued . That is, as raphi rightly points out, bananas when applied to constitutional rights. That cant work. Thats not going to stand. And i think this is part of the why most republicans are not out there celebrating and defending the law, even the ones who helped right the damn thing. Buzzfeed news contacted all of Texas Republicans in the House Of Representatives and both of the states senators out of a total of 25 officials, the congressional republican, just four responded. Only one referred to the case. Now, the question is, how do those who believe in Abortion Rights want to push the issue on this odious bill and the ones that are sure to follow . Nancy northrop is the President And Ceo of the Center For Reproductive Rights who filed an Emergency Request to block the texas been ban. Emily, executive director of an organization that helps elect democratic women in favor of Abortion Rights. I misspoke. The folks in the texas congressional delegation didnt right this bill. Thats the Texas Statehouse and senate. Want to correct that. Nancy, there is actually a State Court Judge that has issued a sort of injunction directed at a specific class of people that just happened about an hour ago. Can you explain what just happened in the State Court . Sure. Let me just start by saying of course its been a devastating two days since the Supreme Court turned its back on the constitutiOn And the people in the state of texas and allowed this Abortion Ban, near ban to go into effect. And so its been chaos for people trying to get access to care and we are looking at every legal option. Today in a lawsuit that Planned Parenthood and its affiliates filed in texas against texas right to life, they got an Injunction Today that stops texas right to life from engaging in these lawsuits with respect to Planned Parenthood. So its an interim ruling, but its a first step in showing that this law is absolutely out of bounds. Emily, i want to read you from the Wall Street Jurnl oped today, which i thought was interesting. This is a supporter of Abortion Restrictions and, in fact, getting rid of roe v. Wade, who write this. Texas republicans have handed democrats a political green aid to hurt the antiabortion cause. Prolife groups have spent 50 years arguing that abortion is a political question to be settled in the states by public debate, but texas wants to use the courts by a civil litigation to limit abortion. I do think this law is so, frankly, odious, that more republicans than those who oppose Abortion Rights should have to own it. I wonder if you folks who work in the trenches of the political opinion on this feel the same way. Absolutely, chris. Lets start with the fact that the overwhelming majority of americans are on the side of those who want to see and keep roe v. Wade as the law of the land. That is what keeps women safe, what keeps people safe who need reproductive care. This Texas Law goes too far. What i would say to the listeners is, do you know who your State Senator is . Your state represent is . Do you know who your governor is and where they stand on this . Republican governors and legislators across the country are looking at this not as a grenade, but a playbook. They are thinking, what can we do in our state to roll back these important rights that affect so many families. We are working to hold hem to account. We believe that every single member of a legislature needs to be asked, where do you stand on this . They should be asked now, next year, and they will be asked by voters when voters come out just as they did after Brett Kavanaugh was confirmed to the court in 2018. They will be held to account at the Ballot Box. Nancy, you have been working in the legal trenches on this issue for years. And i truly hate it when talking heads, such as myself, you know, like Spout Off On Strategy or why dont people do this. But indulge me for a second. I have been thinking about this all day. It just seems untenable to allow this to stand. Meaning this blatant Badfaith Hack put together procedurally by the crafters of the law so that there is No One to enjoin because its enforced civilly, yadi yaddieyadda, and nothing to do here, and then no abortions in texas. Like it feels like the issue needs to be forced. It feels like someone needs to violate the law. Like it cant just be an abstraction. Is that crazy for me to think that, likek, just to let this sort of stand seems nuts. Oh, well, we are not going to let this just stand. As i had said, we are looking at every legal optiOn And as well, you know, its just been a change of events in the last 36 hours because we now have the biden administration, the president came out very strongly yesterday calling for a whole of government response. We then heard from the Vice President. We heard from the hhs secretary, we heard from the attorney general. We heard Nancy Pelosi say she is going to call for a vote on the Womens Health Protection act, which is a response that has been advocated for years in the congress to this whackamole that goes on in the states, and we are seeing people stand up by just i just read that lyft said they would cover the legal fees of drivers who take women to the clinics. People are funding, supporting the Abortion Funds in the state of texas. They are supporting the people and the clinics on the ground. All of that is tremendously important. No one is just letting this stand. This is now the Supreme Court may have let us down, but from the federal government to the grassroots, people are stepping up to ensure that we get Abortion Access restored in the state of texas. Emily, it also seems to me there is a Salience Issue here, which is abortion has been very high salience for a motivated part of the republican base and i think because rowe was the law of the land, they were sort of the insurgents trying to deconstruct the status quo, others trying to defend the Taughtis Kwo even though it was chipped away in whole Womens Health and through a variety of means. But that seems like flip now. It seems to me that every democratic lawmaker should be talking about this law whenever they can. Like, its a disgusting, despicable, badfaith piece of garbage that everyone In America should know about. I couldnt agree more with your technical description of the law. Its terrible. Its bad for women. Its bad for families. Its the greatest threat to rowe we have seen. In 2020, we have seen hundreds of antiAbortion Restrictions introduced at the state legislative level. More than any other year since rowe became the law of the land. That is that is proof that this is not just arbitrary. This is lets throw it all and see what sticks. They got something to stick in texas. But now they are going to be asked about it because it is bananas, to your point earlier. It is dangerous. It is reckless. And its going to come in the form of all of the strategy that nancy talked about on the policy side, the legal side, but also going to come in the politics and its going to come in voters because its not just democrats who want people to be able to have safe and legal access to abortion. Its independents. Its even some republicans. Its the majority of americans. 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A reporter for the New Yorker caught chansley on video sitting at the seat of Vice President Mike Peps Pence had evacuated moments before. Any chance i can get you guys to leave the Senate Wing . We will. I been making sure they aint disrespecting the place. Im gonna take a sit in this chair. Because Mike Pence is a [ bleep ]. Got to do it for those instagram photos, you know, when you are there. Jacob chansley was arrested three days after the insurrection. He has been in jail ever since. He originally pled not guilty to disorderly conduct, obstruction of official proceeding. Tough to keep that going. Today he accepted a Plea Deal to a single charge of Felony Obstruction of an official proceeding. He will be sentenced in november. His lawyer maintains he is dealing with Mental Health issues. He had a fondness for trump that was not unlike the first love a man may have for a girl or a girl for a man or a man for a man. The first love always, always maintains a tender and soft spot in the heart of the lover. I guess you get whatever lawyer you can if your jacob chansley. Chansley is one of 100 defendants. One of the foot soldiers that is going to pay the price. The people who encouraged the insurrection have gotten off scotfree. Ryan reilly is the Huff Post senior Justice Reporter who also has been covering this. Paul butler, Professor Of Law at georgetown University And Msnbc legal analyst. This case has gotten attention because of how instantly iconic the feature of mr. Chansley was. Where does this Stack Up in terms of the spectrum of seriousness of the offense and how the Plea Deal has worked . So he sort of has gotten that more serious charge, interference with congress, essentially, because he entered that senate well and some of the speech and actions that he took. But i think this is a really interesting case because there has been a number of defendants arrested sips this point who havent spent time behind bars pretrial. Youve got to wonder if he wasnt arrested at that time, perhaps if he had a different lawyer, whether he would have within Inrace Cars Rated for this entire length of time. I dont know what the sentence will be. The Guideline Range was in the range of 41 to 51 months, begin his conduct, which is nonviolent, i think is a significant, significant sentence that, you know, is nothing to sneeze at. The first defendant who went who pled guilty to the same charge, in fact, ultimately got eight months in prison. Thats basically what this defendant has done at this point. So were really at an inflection point. Okay, if there is going to be a deal, it should be reached soon bus because he could be sentenced to something less time than he has searched in jail up to this point. A lot of folks have sbn released pending their trials. He has not. Paul, i mean, just to take a step back and think about sort of justice in a broader sense. I have to say 41 months seems excessive to me for someone who didnt plan it or engage in violence there. Seems like those are things you should reserve for folks who did those kinds of actions. He has done nine months. Someone who was a prosecutor, what do you think . I am not mad about chansleys potential sentence. He was originally charged with six felonies and faced up to 20 years in prison. He pled guilty to one and now he is looking at four or five years. Thats a pretty good deal because make no mistake. Chansley is a stonecold thug. According to documents that were filed in court, he talked about hanging Government Officials who he considered traitors at the insurrection. He used a bullhorn to demand Police Turn over the congress people to the insurrectionists. And then, chris, when he got dressed up in that fur and horns, he put himself out there. Now prosecutors are making an example of him. They want the world to know who is going to prison for four or five years. Thats a long time. Its called deterrence. Its an important message to Anybody Else who might be considering trying to overturnen an election with a violent mob. I guess thats a good point to the extent that you like sort of go out of your way to become this sort of leader symbolize, you also enhance the level of Deterrent Value that comes with your sentence because people will know of you and they will know what you did. There is to me though i forget who said this. Of course, the folks that were actually in that prison in abu ghraib, they all faced charges and got sort of run through the criminal justice system. Donald rumsfeld didnt get anything. People at the top sort of walked away. It feels a little bit like that now, ryan, where these folks were not to excuse hem them, but people were urged to go to Capitol Hill by the President Of The United States who sore far escaped accountability while they are before the judge. Yeah, i think that you have a great point there. Ultimately, he gets 41 to 51 months, that would be a very significant sentence and probably more than necessarily would be warranted given his behavior, which is overwhelmingly nonviolent. But this isnt also the biggest, i think, probably the biggest, you know, issue in the country in terms. Criminal justice system. One case that i think of when i sort of cover this is Joshua Williams of ferguson. You probably know well from the ferguson days. Thats a kid who was 18 years old, 19 years old. He is still in prison now and he did eight years for a trash can. A trash can. He burned down a trash can. Thats worth talking about here. So, i mean, you know, comparison to there, of course, it cant be sort of like an eye to an Eye Situation and you have to make sure that the penalty is sort of in line with exactly, you know, the conduct and the behavior here. Ultimately there are a lot bigger offenders than this, you know, Qanon Shaman who you can compare to, you know, its Naked Cowboy in Times Square who is sort of this Spirit Animal or perhaps sort of mascot for the qanon movement. But like how serious was he . Was he planning . Was he you know, was he involved in any plans for storming Capitol Or Sort of like grabbing selfies. He is a fail backer who wanted to get involved in a lot of this and, you know, get attention for himself. Ultimately, you know, committed crimes, but is three to four years going to be, you know, something we need to three the book at someone for . I dont know. Well, i think the Dough Ternt Question is really quite live and operational, paul, to your point, right . Because its, like, the Big Lie is being, like, cultivated every day. The idea that, like, democrats are going to steal it again. The california recall, there are wild vial rumors. You do go to create some strong messages to people that this kind of behavior will lead to very serious punishment just as basic means of preserving civic peace. Absolutely. Five years, its a long time in federal prison. I am not sure its actually enough time for qanon when we know that 50 of people who are locked up in federal prison are there for nonviolent drug crimes. Many serving way more time than five years. QanOn And the other insurrectionists are not the best faces are to sentencing reform. Think of Three Groums in the insurrection. The maga tourists who illegally entered the capitol but didnt wild out once they were there. Then instigators and organizers and leaders who have more culpability. That group i think includes qanon, but also includes some republican congressmen. They are complicitly still hasnt been investigated and the people who planned and financed the insurrection, they should get the most time. Finally, chris, there is the former President Of The United States. I dont think trump necessarily has to be charged treason or sedition, but its a crime to incite a Riot And Trump committed that crime on national television. Every day that he is not held accountable is an insult to equal justice under the law. Well said, Paul Butler and ryan reilly. Thank you for making time tonight. Next, the latest Jobs Numbers came in far lower than expected. What the Delta Surge had to do with it and what that means for the rebounding of Covid Economy coming. E rebounding of Covid Ec coming energy is everywhere. Even in a little seedling. Which, when turned into fuel, can help power a plane. At chevrons el segundo refinery, were looking to turn plantbased oil into renewable gasoline, Jet And Diesel fuels. Our planet offers countless sources of energy. 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Today the first friday of the month is when the federal government releases the latest jobs report. And it details hiring and unemployment in the past month, august, and the top Line Number was not great. The economy added just 235,000 jobs last month. Thats almost 500,000 jobs fewer than the 720,000 that economists expected. While that might be disappointing, it wasnt surprising as the president pointed out in his remarks this morning. There is no question that the Delta Variant is why Todays Job Report isnt stronger. I know people were looking, and i was, hoping for a higher number. But next week ill lay out the next steps that are going to we are going to need to combat the Delta Variant to address some of those fears and concerns. Betsy stevenson, a former member of president obamas advisors. She joins me now. Betsy, i guess to start with the basic idea here that Joe Biden said a ton on the campaign, which is that you cant like there is no get the economy back bought dealing with the pandemic and the pandemic flared up again and so then here we are. Right. The virus drives the economics here. It always has and its going to continue to do that. And when we see Case Numbers that are rising, hospitalizations that are rising, i actually think the surprising thing is how well the economy is doing in the face of that, if you compare that to how the economy did at the beginning of this pandemic when we saw, you know, Case Rates that were much lower than what we are seeing right now. Yeah, i mean, that speaks, i think, to the sort of catch22 i articulated at the top of the show. Because of the presence of widely available vaccines, we are not seeing big Policy Interventions like closing down venues because that seems unfair, right, when people can choose to get vaccinated, you can do it relatively safely. So in that respect, i mean, i saw that airLine Numbers were down August Travel was down like 33 from 2019, and i thought to myself, i think thats less a drop than i would have guessed, you know, if we are still twothird of prepandemic, thats, obviously, a big decline, but bigger than i think i would have guessed. Well, you know, i think the thing to realize is that its never really been about what the governors are, the local Policy Decisions were. Its really about what people do to keep themselves safe. Correct. And i think there is a lot of people out there that are vaccinated but they are hearing about Breakthrough Cases and maybe they are not worried about themselves, because we know the Breakthrough Cases are unlikely to land you in the hospital and lead to death. So were ensured if you are vaccinated against the worst outcomes. But if you are like me and you have kids who arent eligible to be vaccinated, you want to be extra cautious because you dont want to bring covid home. So i think what we are seeing is people starting to pull back in terms of what they are doing and we are seeing companies worried about what people are going to choose to do, and so they are hesitating to bring people back in the office, and that Airline Travel youre talking about, i think that people are pulling back on that because its just nor exposure than they want given how rampant and contagious the Delta Variant is. And so we are going to have to get a higher vaccination rate, start to vaccinate our kids, or get enough people who have had covid that we actually get something that brings this a little bit more under control before we see the economy pick up again. Its going to pick up again, but we are in a little bit of a lull right now because case cases are really growing. There is a real concern about Unemployment Insurance. We had this situation where there was the unploipt insurance benefit, which was a bonus above what you would be what the calculated ui would be, 600, went down to 300, and now its going to phase out. And, you know, its going to phase out at a time when, like, the economy is not roaring, and there is worry that people its gonna cause loot of misery. Where are you at on that . First of all, i think everybody is focused on that 300 too much. I am focused on people who lose benefits 100 . Yes, there are two issues. There is the end. Bonus. A bunch of people have been on an extension of ui that is pandemic related past the normal Expiration Date that are going to hit an expiration day cliff. Thats the majority of the people on ui right now. Lets be clear. We are not talking about a small group of people. The majority of people getting ui are on one of these expanded programs that covers more people, people who arent typically covered either because their earnings werent high enough to be covered or because they are an independent contractor, they are selfemployed. There are reasons they are not being covered. And i think that its really important to realize that when you go down to zero, its very hard to pay your rent and put food on the table. Those are the people i am absolutely most worried about. Yeah. Thats also, like, obviously, a Human Story because these people are going to be in trouble. Its not great macroeconomicly, because thats a lot of money flowing into the economy for paying rents, buying clothes, whatever, thats not there. The one kind of bizarre upside to me is that i keep worrying the fed is going to hike rates and there is going to be pressure and i have seen symptom of the fed governors saying we are getting to the point we got to hike rates and i think in a weird way what ends up happening is these kinds of Job Reports in the long Run Sort of punt off fed tightening that might be Sal Tear for the longterm trajectory of the recovery. I think its going to put off fed tightening because the economys not that strong. So i am not glad that the economy is not that strong that its going to put off fed tightening. I am glad that the fed is so responsive and is able to respond on a dime to the kind of news that comes out today and say, hey, you know what . The economy still needs support. We are not really ready to do the kind of tightening wed like to be able to do going forward. So i think the good there is that we have flexible monetary policy. I love us to have flexible fiscal policy. I would love us to have an Unemployment Insurance system that understood we are not ready to kick a lot of people off the Unemployment Insurance. And that is going to end up hurting more than it helps. If you think about sort of the balance of Unemployment Insurance as we want to create incentives for people to get jobs. I get that. I think its really important we create those incentives for people to get jobs. I also think we need to make sure people can eat and our economy has enough money flowing into it. When we have the pandemic on the rise and cases surging we need to prioritize, make sure people can eat and making sure that there is enough money flowing through our economy that they can pay the rent, we dont see evictions. Those should be our priorities now. 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The supporters of Abortion Rights have been playing defense to protect Abortion Rights from massive globalized effort to destroy them. But in some ways, the valence of this battle has switched overnight. Spring court basically way through this Texas Ban on abortion, so now, the mobilization needs to switch on practical terms on the ground. Texas republicans the conservative justices have done something at the majority of americans want them to do. Im not even sure of the majority of texans would support this law to be honest. Including the 2020 exit pulling out of taxes. Nearly 80 of voters think that abortion should be legal, available in some instances. 18 15 says it should be illegal We Abortion should. Not we that is 18 weeks earlier than the legal standard set by roe v. Wade in 1973 in that landmark 7 to 2 decision, it wasnt a 5 to 4 decision. And banning abortion after six weeks is essentially banning all abortions because many women do not find out they are pregnant in the first six weeks. When you have this legal threat hanging over people, No One is going to perform any abortion no matter how early. Believe me, right now in texas, it is an almost certainty theres a teenage girls somewhere in that state by her abuser or by a Family Member who is pregnant who cannot get an abortion. That isnt year certainty. There are likely thousands of women who are pregnant who cannot get abortions because there are no exceptions in this law, this is the most extreme kind of law. The first of its. Kind its essentially a complete ban. It is in force not by the state government, the people that we elect to enforce laws, thats how we use laws, we are not just citizens enforcing Murder Laws and things like that. No, it is enforced by private Citizen Bounty hunters with a 10,000 Dollar Check being dangled in front of them by the texas government. To help carry out the law, the states biggest anti with anti Abortion Group put out this video. We need your help. We you can anonymously report that at prolife whistleblower. Com. That is a prolife whistleblower. Com. You can stop abortion by protecting women and children from unsafe, criminal abortions. Those who worship at the altar of Child Sacrifice try to suck down prolife whistleblower. Com, but the site is still functioning and active and awaiting your reports and findings. Through civil enforcement, the Texas Heartbeat Act escapes with activist judges. We after the Heart Beat is detected on a, child and an abortion is we im gonna say something about. This for a movement that talks all the time about freedom or the Tyranny And Marxism to put masks on, but would you describe a society in which your neighbors kerber on spying on you to report out your Health Care decisions . Does that sound like a free society to you . Now i know its hard to believe, that video we played you is real, so is that email. The group is trying to incentivize what citizens who intend on aiding abortions, it encourages people to accuse. What this is all actually happening. As we mentioned just a couple of hours ago, a Judge Saw that group with that incredible video from suing Abortion Providers a Planned Parenthood under the new law. That still in place. But again, things have changed. Now it has come up on people who value these right whether they be writers, intellectuals, voters, citizens, anyone who believes in the right of bodily autonomy for women were starting to see movement on, that lots of people on the right are recognizing that this is unpopular. The laws indefensible, the mechanics of the law is indefensible. Well as complicated as peoples views on abortion can be, they are not complicated in terms of how horrible this lies. Senate Judiciary Committee is going to examine the texas Abortion Ban Mazie Hirono is a member of this committee and she joins me now. Senator, what is the agenda for the senate democrats to deal with this law . One of the things theyre gonna do is have a hearing on the supreme Courts Abuse of power by abusing the was Shadow Docket. Im gonna use the Word Abuse because that is exactly what is going on. Theyre Speaker Pelosi said there will be a vote on a piece of legislation that would essentially codified standard into federal law. Is there appetite for that in the senate . Obviously we would have to pass both houses for it to become law. There is an appetite for that and a Companion Build at 48 democratic senators side. I am one of them. So when we have this hearing on the abuse of the Shadow Docket, its a need for supreme Court Reform. Would you mean by Court Reform . Court reform, the fact that we have a Supreme Court using its powers abusing its power. So we cannot talk about term limits. We can talk about applying the provisions. We can increase the number of the Supreme Court. We can cycle through judges. I think what is going to happen is when it comes to when it becomes obvious that the Supreme Court, which by the, way has used the Shadow Docket 28 times during the Trump Era and only four times during the entire Bush And Obama terms, this is an abuse. So when you use the Shadow Docket with you dont have to say who is voting, who is doing the position that uses Shadow Docket. There is nothing. There is no accountability, they hope. But in this case, we [inaudible] 48 I Cant Help but notice is not 50. That seems to me that is sort of the issue . Right you have the filibuster, right before you be the filibuster, you cant beat 52 votes with 48 and i wonder if this changes the calculation of your senate colleagues . I hope so, because what if you do not have to have 60 votes to codify, we will have to wait at the federal level. You can also quantify the State Level like what we did many years ago. Well which is why all of the people i see marching now in the streets having awakened to what is happening to women all across the country, i hope that they make sure that their states codify roe v. Wade. You make a good point here that in the same way, very conservative states have taken huge steps, constantly, to sort of push against Abortion Rights. There are opportunities for states who have elected representatives who believe in Abortion Rights to expand access and to try to protect. It yes. This is why we need to be mobilized at all levels. It is not just congress that can take action. It is all the State Legislatures and it is that. When it becomes clear that this is actually an activist, conservative Supreme Court, the Rule Of Law and the president out the window when they feel like it, Citizens United that opened the door to billions in dark money being spent. We that was a big two janice which really stymied the unions will and their ability to this is all done by and activist work. People with folks like the trump families, trump appointees. What do you think there is pulling that indicates that with democrats and what they think highly of john roberts. They approve. Him what do you think about that . John roberts at least cares about the institution of the Supreme Court. I think he cares a Supreme Court is not seen as some rightwing court. I think he cares about that. But he is the three people that are the trump appointees, they basically do not. They are very ideologically driven, in my view. Senator Mazie Hirono of hawaii, thank you so much. Can thank, you aloha. In 2017, even the trump republicans control both chambers of congress they cannot repeal the progressive groups like indivisible who took the streets, called out the elected officials. So welcome people who support womens rights now. Have the founder of whole in itself was that is going to challenge the texas been on the Supreme Court. Amy let me start with you because you are in texas, where theres so many people who want to do something, they feel so enraged and upset. Rightly so about this. Where should they do . What should people who want to support you be doing . I think theres a few things that we can ask people to do. The first would be to donate to Texas Abortion funds that are helping folks get access to abortions in texas and outside of texas. Aoc Slash Act blue. And i think the other thing that seems a little more subtle but is extremely powerful, it is for us all to talk about abortion through an affirmative, positive framework. How safe access to abortion makes our communities healthier. How people we know and love have had access to abortion that has made them be able to build and plan a future and have healthy families. I think that is incredibly important. I think the Womens Health Protection act would be amazing if we could use this momentum and this impetus to get congress to step in and protect those of us who live in states where these kinds of politics are constantly happening so that we can secure the rights and really flesh out the full access for all people. Out the f megan, what do yous the sort of points of pressure here to react to this . I think amy is right. The best thing you can do is the best Thing Congress can do is pass the womans protection act. But as she was saying, not only do we have not all 50 democrats, but we dont have the commitment of all of them to change the rules. But again, the filibuster is being used to block a popular thing from going into effect. But more importantly, this court is a disaster. The way that this court is put up cannot continue. So there has to be serious conversation, not just about the Shuttle Docket which nobody knows but that is, but about the court itself, so im glad to hear that Senator Hirono said the will be looking into expanding the amount of seats in the court. Because there is no universe in which six conservatives are gonna wake up and say, wait, i change my mind about reproductive Health Care. A judge my mind about abortion. This has been a 50year long project on the part of the right to get us to this moment and now we are here, they will not change their minds. So there has got to be something done in congress about this. This is going to be a critical piece. Wonky to fine grow at the federal level, making sure we can keep it by adding seats to the Supreme Court. Amy, im going to ask you a question that you may not be at full liberty to discuss because there is a legal environment that you find yourselves and because the Supreme Court has a alaskan anyway. One of the conversations about reproductive Service Providers like in texas right now . What is your understanding of what you can and cannot do. Are there is there any place where women can get abortions in texas . Or is the entire state essentially right now under a ban . I appreciate that question, chris. It is complicated. I want folks to know that abortion is still illegal in texas, that clinics are still open all across the state including the four homes. We are offering cared to the new legal limit of about six weeks into pregnancys. And then we are also helping folks have ultrasounds and figure out how many weeks they might be into the pregnancy and trying to assist them to get the care that they deserve. Nobody is more compassionate, more kind or more informed with the actual information than the clinics in texas and the Abortion Funds in texas to really help people. Theres some websites like a vow, and notify, and a bunch of folks keeping up the information that people need. Our staff, our values, our commitment to this Work Hasnt changed just because this law has changed. We have seen lots of people come in since the law was passed, heartbreakingly we have had to turn them away. Its been really difficult for our Staff Members who are there because of their commitment to this work. Because of their commitment to the Human Rights and Justice Issue that is abortion. Having to look people in the eye and deny them care that they could provide two or three days ago, its really heartbreaking for all of us to be put in this position. Its unjust, its curled to put Clinic Workers and Clinics Staff in this position after all they have done during this pandemic, as frontline Health Care workers to keep access to safe abortion available to people all across the state. And so, i think it is encouraging to see how people are outraged, its encouraging to see how many folks really know that this doesnt represent the majority of people in texas. The small groups of people that are elected that have this power dont represent the feelings and beliefs of the majority of people in this country, and surely not people in texas. And it is high time that the real texas was paid attention to and our voices were heard, and we can respect and empower the activists on the ground in texas who are doing some amazing work to bring about justice. All right Amy Hagstrom Miller and megan, thank you both, we really appreciate it. Thank you so much. 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About how the insurrection did not end on january six, and how republican lawmakers are laying the groundwork to overturn the next election. A new report by propublica reveals how that effort is manifesting itself in unexpected ways. There are part of Steve Bannon and others, thousands of trump supporters have taken over local election positions in Swing States across the country. According to the Report Quote the new movement is built entirely around Trumpss Insistence that the Electoral System fell in 2020 that republicans cant let it happen again. The result is nationwide groundswell of Party Activists who central goal is not merely to win elections but to reshape their machinery. They feel President Trump was rightfully elected president and it was taken from him. They feel their involvement in and coming elections will prevent something like that from happening again. What does that mean for the upcoming 2022, 2024 election, isaac im Store Phase one of the reporters who broke this story and he joins me now. Isaac, its a great piece of reporting, first lets just start with Bannons Role in all of this, what he has been fermenting, explicitly that people heeded the call for. The idea here is that because the 2020 election was stolen trump supporters need to take over the republican party to prevent that from happening again. People listening are probably saying, take over the republican party, doesnt trump already controlled republican party . According to this version of history, the reason that Trump Isnt President anymore is not just a widespread fraud, that was just the beginning, but the second pieces that trump was sold out by the republican party by the State Legislatures who didnt through the Electoral College votes to trump. By the republican members of congress who didnt vote to overturn the Electoral College results on january six, by the senators who voted, by the members of congress who voted to impeach him for inciting the insurrection. People like Brad Raffensperger in georgia who certify these election results that trump insistent were fraudulent. The idea here is that they need to take over the party from the bottom up, from the local level giving them the power to elect the party officers higher up the chain at the county, district state, at national level, they need to get rid of everyone like Brad Raffensperger who doesnt agree that the election was stolen and they need to use these Party Powers to pass new Voting Restrictions like the laws in georgia and arizona. To have more audits like the one in arizona. To expand the role of republicancontrolled State Legislature in running elections and controlling the outcome of elections. The way that they do this is through these precinct positions, which most voters havent heard of before. These are just the lowest level positions in the party organization, and theyre the Worker Bees in the party, theyre the field organization, theyre knocking on doors, making phone calls. Not only that, they have these formal powers that give them a direct role in how elections are run, and the details are little bit different in every state, but sometimes its picking up poll workers. Sometimes its picking the members of the boards that oversee the elections. Sometimes its having a say in who actually gets on the ballot, either because theyre collecting signatures, or because theyre voting directly in nominating conventions instead of public primaries. So this was the plan that bannon highlighted in february, and after he put it on his podcast, which is one of the most popular podcast on apple, it has tens of millions of downloads, and after Steve Bannons podcast featured this it went viral. All across farright media. I dont mean Fox News and facebook, im talking about people like Steve Bannon, michael flynn, linwood, sydney powell, sites like telegram, and gap and he went on talk shows, and this became the It Thing that everybody was talking about. The key thing is that they werent just talking about it on the internet. Thousands of people actually went out and did it, and so what we found by calling around to dozens of key counties in competitive states, were talking about the states that decide president ial elections, and who control congress, arizona, georgia, florida, texas, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, and we asked these County Chairs, all of a sudden, are tons of people calling you to be Precinct Officials . And mostly they said yeah, weve never seen anything like this before. Sometimes they frankly had no idea why it was happening, and sometimes they figured out that it was because of this viral episode of Steve Bannons podcast. Sometimes, actually the County Chair was a new County Chair who had been elected by a lot of these newcomers to the party. So youre already seeing them put those powers to use and have affects up the chain of the party organization. P here is a key part that Yor Article lays out and that people need to understand. Party positions are actually part of the Election Supervision Architecture the Ground Level in the u. S. Theyll be the county will have a three and three, the democrats and the republicans have six people that oversee, these bipartisan boards and so if the party officials sitting there, usually its an equal amount for both parties, so when youre talking about party positions, is not just party positions, they are the people that end up playing these official rules of Election Supervision . Thats right. Its traditionally again keeping function, the reason that we have is entrenched two party system, and there arent third parties is because of the parties having this entrenched legal, formal roll over the nuts and bolts of American Politics and the actual running of elections. That is exactly what this movement is targeting. The lesson that they learned from last time is that the reason that trump is not president anymore is not actually because of the widespread fraud by the democrats, but its because the republicans, even though they knew the election was stolen, didnt use these powers to stop it, and the reason that they are focused on taking over these positions now is to change that next time. And we saw this, the place where this was most highlighted was in michigan, because you had the Wayne County Board of electors, whoever they are, again, it was three and three, three republicans three democrats, and the party is the one that assigns these people row but theyre playing this official role in the county, and remember, two of the republicans voted not to certify the results. And Donald Trump called to congratulate them, they backed down, and then it went to the State Board of election, and again there are several republicans who voted against certifying the results and one who did, who subsequently got threatened. I remember thinking, i didnt think about the role, the Leverage Point, the kind of our comedian Leverage Point that these random party officials are in making sure an election gets certified. I want to give you another example. Next are endless guns, and the parties actually nominate the poll workers. So the people who actually work in the Polling Place running the election. Historically, they and the law actually says, whoever the party nominates, the County Clerk who runs the election has to hire those party nominees. Historically this hasnt been an issue because the parties didnt really bother, they were more interested in, well return to use our people in an election day, getting the vote and that kind of thing. But now, every County Party saw this and they said, you know what, we are going to stack these roles with really hardline republicans and we are going to make sure that they are in these Polling Places on the lookout for fraud. Yikes. You got that Queue Anand Sham as well. It could be a bad scene. Isaac on store, very good reporting. Thank you for explaining that so clearly. I appreciate. It thank you. Still ahead, the escalating fight in texas, students can learn about Race And Slavery in the classroom, that is next. That is next. Its gentle on her skin, and out cleans our old free detergent. Tide hygienic clean free. Hypoallergenic and safe for sensitive skin. [relaxed summer themed music playing] summer is a state of mind, you can visit anytime. Savor your summer with lincoln. What does it take to make it . In the race to succeed, does somebody always have to fail . Weve got to start lifting each other up. And give everybody a fair shot. Because when that happens, weve all made it. The anti Abortion Legislation texas is not the only example of the state republicans extremist politics. Republican Governor Greg Abbott signed an extensive Bull Ban on critical Race Theory earlier this summer. But republicans were not satisfied with that so they sent in a second bill restricting how race was taught in schools. This Culture War has been bubbling under the surface of texas politics for a while. You may remember one incident, a few years ago, in South Lake texas, a small town. A video of white teenagers shouting the nword but went viral. The response to that incidents in South Lake decided to take actiOn And created listening sessions. After all that work, the School Board unveiled a proposal that would require Diversity And Inclusion study for all students. The backlash was swift. Outraged parents accuse the school of promoting marxism. A small Texas Town became in many ways a microcosm for a larger fight over how we teach racism in this country. The story of which is masterfully outlined in a new Sixpart Podcast Series from Nbc News, Tanya Hilton is an Nbc News correspondent, she is one of the hosts of the podcast, antonia, welcome and congrats, its a phenomenal piece of work. People should go listen to. It binge. It it is very good. Tell us Just A Little Bit about this town and how you started getting into the story. Thank you chris. South lake is one of the Ground Zero communities where this entire fight began. Because long before what most people knew whats critical Race Theory met, long before we sauce these battles in School Board meetings. So initially this council comes together it has conservative, liberal parents, everything in between. And they are getting to present this diversity plan. It takes two years of. Worked the plan is ready red in the months after george floyds murder, in which the political conversation in how to talk about race in history and in the classroom is entirely different to how we were talked about in 2018. So this document is in that politicized context and there is a huge backlash. Parents raise Hundreds Of Thousands of dollars and even launch a lawsuit that leads to a Restraining Order that stops the district from implementing any Diversity And Inclusion training for kids in this large and well known School District in texas. So this Opposition Effort there in this community in South Lake has been representative of the movement that we have seen around the country. Because the republicans there, many of them are well connected. This is a town full of american airline executives, bankers, and many of them are closely tied to politics in texas. They launched this effort with a pack on the local level, but they are very explicit about the fact that they see School Board seats as being a critical part of the political infrastructure. A huge part of the way in which they can wield power and influence. And they talk about that very openly in the months after the plan comes out. So i want to introduce you to one of the parents involved in this work. His name is juan salvador, hes a former Army Officer and he has a child in the School District there. And he essentially believes that systemic racism is not real. That incidences like the video you saw there were kids were chanting the and word can be addressed on the case per case basis. He essentially refused a lot of what the black, south asian, and other minority families in the town have been trying to tell about their experience over the last couple of years. I want you to take a listen to a conversation that i had with him that is featured in our upcoming episode. What you heard juan say there is pretty representative of what the Opposition Movement in South Lake has set about this plan and about supporters all along. That essentially the plan is not going to be necessary to a community like South Lake and that they feel like despite the testimonies, where people have come forward, in some cases hundreds of testimonies, that essentially the community has the tools to deal with that and no comprehensive plan is needed there. Can you talk about the racial makeup of the school and what youve heard of parents and School Students from their . Its a fascinating suburb. I think that people have recognized this in there the School District used to be 80 . Wide over the past several years it has gone down to 60 white. It is rapidly diversifying. Especially with Latino And South asian families and there has been an influx of some black families there. And what you hear when you speak to minority families, is as more and more minority families move, and the tension has increased in the town. And representatives there feel like the true texas routes of South Lake are now being threatened. And as they come forward and they try to have a dialogue about some of the racist harassment their students have faced at school, the comments, the exclusion that their kids complain about. Student, after student, have spoken to me and my cohost and have said that they feel completely alone. And they try to tell the stories and they feel like their neighbors essentially have told them, you either get with the program, the culture of this town, or you get out. What is the sort of Backlash Mean in terms of the way the school is dealing with issues now . Have they managed to curtail this proposed curriculum . The districts hands are tied at the moment because this Restraining Order is in place and bars any kind of work of Diversity And Inclusion plan. When you talk to administer even when you tried to talk to them on background, they are afraid to talk to you about the details of the plan. I had an exclusive interview with the superintendent of the district to us kind of become the face of this fight in town. Both sides expect him to bring some sort of unity despite the fact that theres this Restraining Order in place. So he is in this incredibly difficult position in which he is charged with making feel students feel safe in this town but also being told that he cannot do anything new, cannot bring any new Diversity Program to address the very clear and direct concerns that students have brought forth. So he often feels like he is essentially walking into a land mine. I asked him Point Blank in our interview is there racism in South Lake. I didnt say is all the Residents Racist here, i asked if there was racism. He refused to answer. There have been multiple instances where students use the nword in the district. His answer to the question, his inability to address, it talks a lot about the toxicity of the discourse over. There were talks about the lack of communication between the school and the parents. And somehow they are supposed to do something. Antonio hilton, thank you so much for coming on. The two first episodes on South Lake are out, then you will come out on monday. Coming up, Joe Manchins latest threat to the biden agenda as the president Visits Louisiana to survey the damage. The latest, next. The latest, next te. brother theres a road right there. brother thats a cat. Wait, just hold madis headpiece. sister no. Seriously . brother his name is whiskers. bride what happened to you . Whose cat is that . brother its a long story. sister Oh My gosh. farmer whiskers there you are avo the subaru crosstrek. The adventurous suv for adventurous people. Love. Its what makes subaru, subaru. With Directv Stream, i can get live tv and on demand. Together. Watch serena williams. Wonder woman. 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He reiterated the need to address the Climate Crisis. We have a significant piece of legislation, both Infrastructure Bill and a Reconciliation Bill that calls for significant investment in being able to deal with what is about to come, another word, for example, when you guys are putting back of those high tension wires again and it is working, youre not gonna put up the exact same system, youre gonna have to build it better, and its resiliency. The budget Reconciliation Bill the President Mention included vital pieces of Climate Change is. Joe manchin put an oped in the Wall Street Journal yesterday of all places calling for a pause to the 3. 5 trillion Dollar Framework which he voted to pass just three weeks ago or at least continue ahead. Greg sergeant writing for the Washington Post said it could have dire consequences especially if it is not resolved before the november Climate Crisis in scotland. He warns that a lack of commitment to the clean Energy Standard would send a signal to the world the u. S. Isnt taking this seriously, that would emboldened other nations to not engage. I wanna turn out to someone who has written extensively about the Climate Crisis and is currently leading a research project, professor of sociology eric, eric ive been thinking about you for the last few days because this is really the work that you devoted yourself to recently, and the first thing i want to say, one thing that is so striking when it extreme Weather Event happens is all sorts of features of the built infrastructure become apparent in the way they werent before. So in New York, i never thought about the fact that the big Q Ian certain parts is down, and the major is down, and the expressway is below, and when it floods, they become lakes, i had never really thought about that until we saw it turned into lakes. It gives you a hint of the scope of what has to be thought through as we think about all of our build infrastructure. Chris it can feel overwhelming when youre just looking at one city like New York the issue in the united states now is that we have yet to do any comprehensive climate planning with respect to mitigation, converting our Energy System so we depend more renewables, or when it comes to adaptation, we tend to do Things Project by project, neighborhood by neighborhood. We notice that place is really low, its a flood risk, we have to look brandnew early now and we have to start to look at the big picture. This is a once in a lifetime moment were in right now to turn things around. And i heard Senator Manchin say congress needs to take a pause this week, but i dont know how your week was, chris, in new York City it shouldnt feel a Climate Change took a pause. The united states, it doesnt feel like the Health Crisis has taken a pause. Now is our time to act. One other aspect of this that is really striking is the human toll, we have up to 40, over 40 people that lost their lives over this, and thats in the part of the country that the one that wasnt bearing for the big category for a storm in the gulf, this is in the northeast. Your first book was about this incredibly deadly Heat Wave in chicago which hundreds of people lost their lives, it points to how vulnerable human life can be too extreme events particularly those that we dont view as the big ones that we have to prepare for. Thats right. There are so many disasters that have been invisible. We havent recognized them, and in some cases they dont have spectacular imagery, so people die in Heat Waves, not just because its hot because we have a lot of very poor and very old and isolated people, who tend to suffer invisibly every day. Theyre at risk when a Heat Wave comes around. Why did so many people die in new York City, why did people drowned to death in these floods . Its partly because we have tens of thousands of people in new York City who live in effectively Basis Basement apartments. Its a story about social class, and social protection. It has become a kind of line in progressive circles that Climate Change is a social Justice Issue, and that is absolutely right. We need to show the substance of that. We cant just deal with climate as a weather problem. It is connected to the everyday inequalities that organize american life. Chris, i think thats why its so important that we own up to this moment with a policy agenda. When i hear some members of congress say lets slow down and put the brakes on infrastructure, i hear them saying lets get through this one particular crisis were having this month and do everything we can to get back to the status quo. Lets conserve the order of things now. I think there is another big rising part of america, i think its not the majority that is saying, we have seen enough, its time to hit the reset button. We need a new model for how we get energy. We need a new model for how we do planning. We need a new model for how we deal with inequality. Frankly, chris, i think that is whats at stake in this battle over infrastructure. And thats why this issue about how Manchin And Sinema are going to vote is just so important. Finally, and quickly, i think we can focus on the Gloom And Doom and its harrowing and terrible, but it really is an opportunity, its a cliche, to build new stuff and trying new things. And to reconfigure space. You have a great piece and the New Yorker that i love about a Landscape Engineer who is trying to grow a lot of oysters around New York, which turned out to help with dealing with Storm Surge is, it just made me think that there are so many ways to reconceptualize Water Infrastructure is. Its exciting in that way. I mean, we should be asking ourselves how happy were we with our cities, with our neighborhoods the way we were living 5 10 years ago, before we really had this reckoning were in right now. A lot of us wanted to do something different, kate about who i rode to, in this New York appease, shes one of the many designers who say, the seizing of the moment, doing something different around Climate Change as a way for us to make better cities, communities, to give ourselves lives that are more meaningful and enriching than the ones that we have had now. Maybe were spending too much time going for speed and efficiency, and the latest technology, maybe we need to find better ways to be with each other and her work is designed to do that very thing. This is a moment for really thinking differently and building differently, and i think thats whats exciting about being alive right now. Its terrifying, but there are great possibilities. 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