The south, two historic flooding in the northeast. Two fires out of control in the. West the desperate need to climate prove american infrastructure. Plus the schools risking it all in florida. To try to protect kids from covid. When all in starts now. Good evening from New York. Im chris hayes. In the dead of night, they did it in the dead of night. Five republican Supreme Court justices, including three appointed by donald trump, a man who lost the Popular Vote in 2016, by neither 3 Million votes. They destroyed the womans right to Bodily Autonomy and reproductive choice. First in the state of texas, who knows whats next. And they did it shortly before midnight. With no big public announcement. With an order that is barely more than a page long. I am struggling to come up with the proper words to describe to you, how both cynically reckless and contemptuous the actions of the court were last night. It was essentially a middle finger, from those five justices. As if to say, we are here, we are here for life, and we can do whatever we want. Lobby damned, precedent be damned, harm be damned. In fact chief justice John Roberts, who is clearly aligned with the objective of those five justices, issued one of the dissents. Basically saying, guys, im not sure we can do it this way. Quoting from his dissent he says, i would like to stop the law from going into effect, so that the courts may consider whether a State Something im about to discuss. So in essence, robert seem to be saying, hey, lets wait, since the Supreme Court already teed up to overturning roe v. Wade for this fall. Theyve already said it up. They have a case out of mississippi. In 2018, mississippi passed a law that bans abortion after 15 weeks. Several months later, a set federal drugs, block that Law Firm going into effect. As is normal, because its not constitutional. In Appeals Court upheld that decision in 2019. Defining that the law was quote, facially unconstitutional because it directly conflicts with unquote, prior Supreme Court precedent. Thats correct. But earlier this year, the Supreme Court decided to hear that case. The case of Dobbs Versus Jackson Womens Health organization. They plucked it out, lots of cases dont get to the Supreme Court. But they wanted that one. And we all know why they wanted. It there it is. So they had already decided to review mississippis 15week Abortion Ban, which is on its face, unconstitutional. But even given, that in more defensible law than what came out of texas. The five conservative justices, roberts notwithstanding, they were so anxious and chomping at the bit to kill off, road to take away abortion, rights they could not wait. They could not weigh. They couldnt wait a few months to hear arguments about mississippis law. And then a few more months to actually write an opinion in announcing and go through all the rigmarole. Instead, they took this wildly essentially lawless position, less than 24 hours after the Texas Law went into effect. In the dead of night. They issued an order, that amounts to a shrug. Well, you know, this ones procedurally tricky. So its out of our hands. So too bad all Year Abortion clinics have to close. Hence the nothing to fence from national republicans. But if you really have to understand, hear about this law, and about what is happened, is that this Texas Abortion Law was crafted, precisely to achieve this, they made the law so as to prevent federal courts from blocking it. They crafted the law and then handed it to the conservative justices of the Supreme Court who said europe checks out. Its an attempt at a kind of magic trick, or maybe more like a common, like a sidewalk con. With a deck of cards. To make the law magically go away. And its worth taking a second to explain, how agree just it is, searches bear with me here. Usually what happens, when a law goes into effect, that is arguably unconstitutional, in this case flatly unconstitutional. The people that are harmed by that law, or think they are going to be harmed, seek something called Injunctive Relief. They go to the court and they say you cant let this legault intuitive fact its unconstitutional, the plaintiffs they name when they file that lawsuit, to stop the law from going into effect, is usually, the Government Official that will enforce the law. For instance, the case to stop the Bush Administration from putting Guantanamo Bay detainees on trial, before Military Commissions was hung dead versus rumsfeld. Then secretary of defense. More recently they sued Texas Governor Gehrig abbott, on behalf of one of the womens shelter providers on the u. S. Mexican border. The Attorney General and governors names around the lawsuits, okay, that i usually get objective relief is to sow in the government. So what a Texas Lawmakers due to avoid that . They decide that the law, will not be enforced by the government at all, in fact they goes step further, they make it illegal for Government Officials in texas to enforce this Texas Law. Which is nuts, but the reason they do is, well theres No One to sue. Who will you sue for Injunctive Relief . Who will enforce . At a high, private actors will. The citizens of texas are outside, texas you or your neighbors, with binoculars, seeing if maybe you want to get an abortion, or maybe someone who Seizure Uber Driver by, anyone can bring a lawsuit against anyone. Who performs an abortion after six weeks. Or against anyone who knowingly helps them doing so. So thats the structure law, its a state law, not enforced by the, state enforced by private vigilantes, with a bound to dangling in front of them. And that whole structure, which is obviously dystopian, and ridiculous, and despicable. Its part of the trick, its the card trick, its the hack, so there can be no named plaintiffs for Injunctive Relief. Are you following . When the new, say well i guess the State Courts would ultimately enforce it because its under State Courts, the lawsuits get, filed so you can name state judges. A hot. No. Not clear you can sue adjudged for Injunctive Relief. So the whole thing is constructed, again, by design, not to be a good law, not to create the conditions for human flourishing, not to order society in a way that promotes the general welfare, its designed as a trick, so that it cannot stand up to actual review, and be struck down before it goes into effect, its a dirty trick. But a cheap one, punitively to make it tough for the court even hear the case. And in this case, the people who wrote that law, and the judges judging it, its like the three card monty khan, where there is the guy at the sidewalk taken the, money in the other guy walks on and pretend sieges got their needs a goal, but theyre on the same team, its all the same team here. The judges in the people who wrote this law. They are on the same team. They are both in on the con, republicans crafted the, line the five conservative justices who decided they would not block Texass Sixweek Abortion from going into effect, because this is just procedural trick away, theres No One to sue, theres no way to get injunction relief. The four descends, the four justices who dissented from that decision, basically all right, they all right to sense, they are like we see what youre doing here. We are not idiots. We do not have to pretend to go along with this nonsense. In addition to what you read earlier, chief justice John Roberts also wrote, quote the statutory scheme, good word, before the court is not only unusual, but unprecedented. Usually states dont have private citizens enforce the law. The Majoritys Decision is emblematic of too much of this Court Shadow Docket decisionmaking. Which every day becomes more an reasoned inconsistent an impossible to defend. Justice sotomayor came out and blasted or colleagues. The act is a breathtaking after the defiant. Of the constitution, in the likes of women seeking abortion, in effect, the Texas Legislature has deputized the State Citizen as bounty hunters, offering them cash prizes, for civilly prosecuting their neighbors medical procedures. The court should not be so content to ignore its constitutional obligations to protect not only the rights of women, but also the saying to see if its precedents and of the rule of law. Yes, Justice Sotomayor thank you. She is 1000 percent right. You cant have offer this is a precedent for any state that wants to curtail constitutional rights with private enforcement. Think about this. Oh heres the new cheat code. Just structurally this, way and you can deny any constitutional right you want. Window and judge relief, whoops ease. It cannot be the case, that you structurally this way, that No One can prevented. Keep in, mind Texas Lawmakers who wrote this bill, they are all members of the republican establishment in good standing. These are folks that get probably at t, united health, over 100,000 to them. Seems it will be a lot easier for lawmakers and other led states to copy and paste the Texas Abortion Law. Before theres ever a ruling on The One in mississippi. You know the ruling, and they do the supreme Court Reof arguments and briefs, in a recent decision. You know. Why do that, when you can just do this cheap card trick, to take away womens right to choose . If this is going to be the way this goes down, there is no choice but for full scale lawful nine violent mobilization. To use the means of democratic politics. From everyone who cares, about Bodily Autonomy and constitutional rights. To preserve the rights of women. Michelle goldberg is a columnist at the New York times. Her latest piece about the Texas Law, is titled republics and are giving abortion Opponents Power over the rest of us. Rebeccas extensively about the fight to reproductive reproductive rights, including this 2019 article, our fury over abortion was dismissed for decades as hysterical, which feels more relevant than ever today. Unfortunately. Michelle, theres so much here that short of rage inducing. In the human, the there are women right now in the state of texas, right, now living in america, being denied the constitutionally sanctioned right to an abortion. That is happening as i speak to you. And i want to talk about that. Go ahead. I was going to say briefly, the Womens Health, one of the Abortion Providers in texas talked about, they were rushing to, those women were desperate to end their pregnancies. They were doing abortions up until 11 56, on tuesday night. Because after that, they had to turn women away. They had women coming to them, in an absolute state of desperation. Theres also though, this aspect to it, the cruelly in defensively creepy structure of it. And i just want you to talk, you wrote your column about this. And im just going to quote from it for a second. Then im going to come to you rebeca. Michelle you said, it maine still be knocked down eventually. And i think it will because its just a disgusting, flagrant abuse of the law. But already in addition to a visiting Version Rates in texas, is sent a message about the republican Partys Eagerness to give it space the ability to dominate the rest of us. It also demonstrate the rightwing supreme Court Majority and its willing to support that domination rather than restrain it. What do you mean by that . I think you have to see it in the context of the republican party, that is increasingly be thought it with vigilanteism. Whether youre talking about the January 6th insurrection, whether youre talking about a republican candidate in pennsylvania, who said hes going to take 20 strong men and remove School Board members. That would impose a mask mandate. Texas also recently passed a law that empowers partisan poll ruptures. In restrains the ability of people in a Polling Place to hold them back, it says they can go wherever they want. In a Bully And Attempt to give them listens to intimidate people that republicans dont think should be voting. And so i just think all over the place, you see republicans, you see them making murders of the mccloskeys. You see the republicans attempts to create a cast of people, that has the rate to, in this case, literally enforce laws, on citizens that they believe are deserving of lesser rights. Or should be disfavored by. Rebecca, this is the moment that has been both foretold, fought against, valiantly, and by thousands of folks, people that work in clinics. Activists, writers, lawyers. Thousands of people fighting to make this not happen. It has come, whats changed in abortion politics . In the last 24 hours, in this country . Well, you know you say this is the moment, and it certainly is one moment, where i think a lot of people i guess are just waking up, to the reality. That this is what is going to happen, that we are not going to have a legal and accessible abortion. But i would argue that there have been hundreds of moments, over decades, that have led up to this. And in those moments many people have pointed, out this is the direction we are heading. And many of those people have been ignored. Theyve been talked down too. They have been said that theyre being hysterical and overdramatic. And there again, its a stunning a lot, and as you pointed out at the beginning of your monologue. The way in which it was done, first of, all sitting quietly on it for a night, we know from this court, they are willing to get up in the middle of the nights, to protect religious gatherings. We know that they can act quickly. In the fact that they did this weird performance of just not saying anything for 24 hours. Just remaining silent. And then when they finally did it, saying. In a way that actually undercuts the courts own authority. That says, yeah this is unconstitutional. This is in the face of precedent set here in this court, even if we obviously are going to overturn that, On A Mission to overturn row. At the moment, and still the Courts Decision. We are going to let this thing go. There is messaging there. That reflects the absolute disdain for, for the rights to Bodily Autonomy, dig wishing flourishing. Heres my take away. And i would like to hear what you have to say on this. For years, the balances, row and then casey is the status quo. And theyre chipping away from. It and theres mobilization against. And thats the thing thats being protected. Youre defending the fortress. The valence of that has to shift now. The aggressor, in this metaphor, again im talking politically right, democratically, non violently, just through direct action and the means of democratic politics, the courts are not going to save you. This must be grassed back into the democratic quality, and pushed as an issue everywhere. Well, its interesting, there was a lot of debate about whether this court was going to throw roll out, outright. Or whether they were just going to turn into even more of a hollow shell. Im not sure anybody believes, that this quickly, you would have Abortion Ban without exception, for rape or incest. At six weeks. And you would soon see that spreading throughout the country. I suspect, who knows what the court was thinking, but one of the results, the sneaky way that they did this. The kind of middle of the night, one paragraph quarter, is that they were able to allow this Abortion Ban, without the headline of roe v. Wade is overturned. Without the kind of shockwave and convulsions it would cause if that happened. Theyre almost sort of Culture Aiding people, to a world of illegal abortion. So that when they do overturn, row when they do rule on this less extreme, 15week mississippi ban. It will be hard to arouse people. I think its a challenge at this moment when people feel so inundated and so battered, to sorters summon, the outrage and defiance. That It Calls for. Rebecca . I think that is been wet michels describing has been the challenge, on the par of abortion defenders. For decades. Since row is decided, and very soon after we had the hyde amendment, the legislative writer thats made abortion all but illegal. Totally inaccessible to vast proportions of this population. It says you Cant Use Government insurance as abortion care. Making it a legal and to pregnant people, who have needed it over decades. And that has not roused this kind of own, no abortion is under attack, weve had thousands of state regulations, passed State Laws, track laws, that have eroded road for years, and not only has the populace not been made aware of, that the democratic party has not taken it up. With the passion that it absolutely should have. There has been, not the energy needed two point, out that this was always what was on the horizon. And thats including from the democratic party that was supposed to be rallying troops over these decades. Im going to talk about this in the next block, i would just, say this Texas Law is indefensible, you couldnt conjure a better foil, for people that believe in the right to choice, and Bodily Untimely of women, then this law. So you might as well leave into it. Rebecca, michelle, thank you both. Thank you. Last night on the show i talked about the fact that abortion is one of the few actual policy positions held by the republican party. You would think the supreme Courts Decision would be a big win for them. They be in front of every camera they can find declaring victory. Heres the thing. They are not. They are kind of in hiding, why is that . Ill explain next. Is that . Ill explain next. Ill explain next. Efor Skin Renewal is at night . Add Olay Retinol24 to your nighttime skincare routine. It combines Hydrating Moisturizers with powerful retinoids to renew millions of Surface Skin cells while you sleep. Plus, it hydrates better than a 100 retinol cream. 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Com party has used abortion in the fight against abortion rights, as a kind of mobilizing energizer for their base. A base that is sincerely committed to ending a womans right to choose not. Just in Red States but outlawed portion everywhere. In some ways the best of both worlds for republicans, was to have abortion be the law of the land. And have states deal with it locally in this sort of constant fight but the court protecting it in The End. Because despite the complicated politics, abortion is a very clear durable long staring majority of americans who are in favor of a womans right to choose and legalized abortion in this country. According to a poll from june, 58 of americans want to see roe v. Wade remain the precedent. Well 32 want to see it overturned. That is almost identical to attitudes were 30 years ago. And now that is being destroyed by the republican party and missed Conservative Movement before our eyes. And you can see they are uneasy about it. You would think they would be doing victory laps about it. They are not. Texas Republican Senator cruz, issued his statement through his spokesperson, reading quote. Senator cruz is proud that texas is leading the charge to defend life. Every life is a gift from god, without life there is no liberty. The question of the Abortion Legislation should be returned to the states. Thats it. Not him actually saying that statement, his spokesperson. Ted cruz is not a dye to jump in front of the camera. Thats more of course than the absolute Silence Weve heard from the st. Senior Republican Senator. Again, two guys that will leap any microphone to talk about critical race theory. And theyre basically mom. Get this fox friends, devoted 27 seconds of their broadcast, to divert demolition of abortion rights. Its almost like they know how unpopular the decision is. Mitch mcconnell tried to brush it off. And i think, republicans do understand the math and abortion. They know the politics on the issue. People do not want row overturned. Thats what republicans was so its best to just pretend like it never happened. Congresswoman is a democrat from massachusetts. She served on the overt inaction task force. Congresswoman, in that role, what do democrats and wood to people who believe in a womans right to choose do in the wake of this . Chris im not at all surprised about this be going under the cloak of night by the extreme Supreme Court. What im looking to right now is this to act. We must. We know the court has not been on our side in Terms Of housing rates, voting rates to, the rates of low income people people of color. To the mars marginalized but who is this Party Value in who are we standing up for. Being in that this is the first prochoice Majority Congress, being that we are in the majority, we have the house the senate and the white house. Being in the majority and being the prochoice Majority Congress in the history of congress must be more than a Talking Point in so we must act. That is why we need to get a regular Commitment Today from speaker pelosi. My bill the Representative Judy Jew in Womens Health protection act. Which would ensure Access And Kind of Buy War versus wade. And also ban other draconian State Laws, like The One in texas. Which is a frightening bell of weather what could be could to come. If we do not. If congress does not act right now in use every tool at our disposal to attacked, of all people regardless of and come generate denim your race, we cannot back down. This is not a drill in might i add not only do lives hang in the Balance Episode is this majority, if we dont act in this moment. Let me play for you at the speaker had to say about this, then i want you to explain a little bit when they say codify roll into law with that means. Heres what Nancy Pelosi said earlier today. When we go back, to washington, we will be putting roe v. Wade confiscation on the floor of the house. To make sure that women everywhere have access to reproductive health, and i say that is the mom of children. Since 1973 when row is decided, the Finding A Constitutional Right to an abortion for women under the right to privacy. There has been a constitutional threshold for which laws states can and cant pass, and its determined by. Courts through Womens Health in, a series of cases. What youre proposing, three year legislation, which is actually pass a law, that congress is never done. To say, states cannot restrict this. Is that the way would work . Thats right. Chris, this is a bill that was just written, this is a bill that was written many years ago. Because we anticipated and forecasts and we find ourselves in just this inflection point. Again im not all surprised by the extremism of this court, which is why we do need to expand the court. Which is why we do need to kind of Fire Roe v. Wade. In assure access to all people. And ensure State Laws like The One in texas, are not passed anywhere else. And thats why my bill with Judy Xu needs to come to the, floor for a vote. We need to honestly bullish the filibuster. We need to commodify roe v. Wade, pash the Womens Health protection acts. Abolish the filibuster, expand the courts, and we need to the impact, of these policies, is disproportionately for by the most vulnerable. Thats true for the amendment as well. Its the most vulnerable in the most marginalized. Who delivered, this democratic majority, and so its up to us now, for congress to act. To meet the moment. And to deliver, and the most basic rights, to that coalition of voters. When is it Sadie You . It is very striking to, me and by one Persons Count of fox did not mention, this since the 27 seconds. Ive been on air, when the Marriage Case was decided for instance. And that was a huge deal. And ive been on air when the aca was, signed that was a huge. Deal we did not pretend it did not happen. We are like yeah its good. The Total Absence of reaction, from republicans, what does that say to you about their perception of the politics of this . I dont want to give them anymore oxygen. Its just more of the same with them, and clearly they have contempt for everyone who calls this country home. Im not looking to courts, im not looking to our colleagues across the aisle. Im looking at this democratic party, to stand up in to be responsive in meet the moment. And to act legislatively. We need to kind of Fire Roe v. Wade, we need to pass my bill with judy shoe, we need to abolish the filibuster, expand the course and we need to repeal high. Not necessarily in that order but all those things must happen. Congresswoman, thank you so much for your time tonight. Thank you, chris. Next, the unbelievable scenes of destruction, as the remnants of Hurricane Ida Batter the northeast. 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You couldnt get a train. Passengers had to be rescues from 1770 cars. A resident of Downtown Manhattan captured this, seen water rushing into the living room, of her duplex apartment. Homes across the regions, as devastating flood damage, this bridge for pennsylvania neighborhood, remained underwater today. After a nearby river overflowed. Water rescues were carried out this morning. All this comes just a few days after ida slammed into louisiana, as a category four hurricane. Hitting New Orleans on the 16th Anniversary of hurricane katrina. It was the fifth highest wind for a hurricane making landfall in history. This time the levees held. But winds reaching 150 miles an hour knocked out power throughout the city. Nearly 1 Million people are still without power across the state. There is no timeline for electricity to be restored as temperatures reached the nineties. Now in the eastern half of the country, hes basically drowning, the western half is on fire. This Realtime Map shows the 150 wildfires currently burning in the u. S. , one of the biggest is the Caldor Fire in california. Which has burned more than 200,000 acres, destroying more than 800 structures in less than three weeks. The fire has been threatening the very popular Lake Tahoe Area with thousands of people were evacuated this, week as it spreads east toward the nevada border. Firefighters are doing incredible, were continuing to battle the flames. Hopefully with more favorable conditions in the coming days. Winds are expected to less, and going into the weekend. Which is good news. So, with these extreme conditions, causing devastation nationwide, the many the question many americans are, asking how are we so ill prepared for this . What are we going to do about it . I will talk to the Secretary Of Energy about it next. The Secretary O Energy about it next energy about it next rootmetrics. And our customers rated us 1 for Network Quality in america according to j. D. 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While the Heat Index is reaching 100 degrees or more in parts of this day, it can still be weeks before some of the hardest area to get their power restored. We are in a climate emergency. East of the mississippi is flooded, west is on fire, it feels like theres Climate Disaster all around you. We were sorely unprepared for, if you feel that way you are not alone, how much and critically was source of energy we used to power our country, essential to the issue of climate, chase it will get the president s goal of Net Zero Emissions by 2050, and it falls at large to the Secretary Of Energy, and she joins me now. First of, all secretary, you are a governor before you are Secretary Of Energy, and youve dealt with disasters before, and i wonder, what goes through your mind when you look at these images, of essentially, extreme events, one in 1000year events, happening more routinely, and overwhelming the built infrastructure that we have to contain. Yes, the first thing that goes through your mind is the people. But really you think, oh my god. How many times do we have to do this, these are not once in a generation, storms they are happening with greater in greater frequency, and intensity. So when we build something back, we better build back better. Which is exactly what Joe Biden wants to see happen, with the infrastructure. Bill that has passed through the senate and is now sitting in the house. Has 33 and a half billion dollars for resilience. For making sure we do harden our grid for example, our great infrastructure. Making sure that we have the ability to prevent these, the fact that you see this Transmission Tower, go across the mississippi, river and that all of our Transmission Wires and Distribution Wires around wooden poles. In some areas, we should be burying that, those wires, we should be burying, its so we dont The End of doing this again. The Bottom Line is, we have to build back better, and we have to make sure that we address climate change, so that we do not continue to exceed this exasperated every single year. On that, were looking at those powerlines, theres an interesting piece in the times today about why the New Orleans didnt very parlance, after, katrina and one of the big things that comes up and all this stuff is expensive. Its really expensive, thats been, we saw the 16 Billion dollars that guy spent on the levees, that appears to have worked in this case, but it is going to take money to do this, stuff and thats what it all comes down to, the investments are costly. Thats why the president wants to partner to make this happen. So those costs are not passed on to consumers. Thats why he has 33 Million. In the 19 eighties we spent about 12 Billion dollars a year to clean up after these extreme weather events. The past three years, weve averaged between 150 and 200 Billion dollars, per year. In cleaning up after these events. We have got to build better. We have to make sure we make it resilient. But chris, we have to address climate change, which is the cause of all of this in the first place. And that is the other piece the president has put into the root reconciliation, bill the bill that the agenda is to make sure we get 100 of our electricity, from clean sources, by 2035, and we incentivize the build out of renewable and clean energy across this country, so that we can, wed, not just our country, but help to lead the world is we pressure other countries to do the same thing. The clean Electricity Standard, which is a key part of the reconciliation package. Something weve been very focused in here on the show, i think its one of the most important proposals, that i have seen covering congress in many years. I want to get your reaction to an oped that democratic member of the Joe Manchin Rule in the wall street journal. And said we need to pause on this trail 3. 5 trillion dollar bill. Its a lot of money, there might be inflation. Everyone just cool your jets. Would he say that . First of all, one of the things he says in that, bill is that he wants to ensure that we are not increasing, debt and deficit. And Joe Biden agrees with him. And thats why Joe Biden has proposed a way to pay for these infrastructure pieces. That need to happen, to make our country solid in the long term. In fact, the infrastructure, the build back better agenda is not only good for the long term, but it will also help to control inflation in the long term. Because these are smart investments that are not intended to just use the economy right, now but to set our country on the right path for the future. Thats with the clean Electricity Standard is all, about thats whats building up clean energy is all about, thats what reducing the cost for everyday families, that is embedded in the Reconciliation Bill is all, about lowering cost of prescription, drugs we dont want to see inflation increase. And we dont want to see health Korean Air increased we. Dont say health care tax. The issues that Joe Manchin is raising about the constant everyday citizens, the president totally agrees with. Secretary of energy, jennifer, graham always a pleasure to talk to. You thank you very much. You bet. Thanks. You know the last few weeks have been hard in a lot of ways, for a lot of reasons, i have a lot of my own frustrations over the last few weeks particularly for the coverage of afghanistan, which i think some of you may, sharon thats where the wire really enjoyed sitting down with on the podcast wise this app earning. Spencers been on the. 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And things really hit home when i came across a report released by the cdc this week, about a case in marine county california, from may. Where unvaccinated elementary school teacher, infected with the delta variant, spread the virus to half of the students in the classroom, seeding It Outbreak that eventually infected 26 people. The teacher taught for two days. Well symptomatic. And before getting tested. Which itself is not a great call. During which time she read out loud without a Mask Gun without the students. Every one of the Front Row tested positive. In the back three rows, 28 of the tuesdays tested positive. You can see how it defuses through the class there. In unvaccinated teacher, dropped her mask, despite rules, in within days have to class was positive of the virus. And a school that had been conscientious about following covid protocols. Despite stories like this, florida governor Ron Desantis is withholding scums from two School Districts that made masks mandatory in classrooms this fall. One of which is broward county. Where doctor Vicky Cartwright is the interim superintendent, and she joins me now. Doctor, its great to have you here. Before we get into mask policy, i just want to level something. I want to understand. This pursuing to an Executive Order of the governor, you can not have a Vaccine Requirement for your staff, teachers and staff in schools. Correct . Well, Thats Something we would have to review coming up in the future. We have not at this point in time, we have not had legal counsel to advise us as to what we are allowed to, do are not allowed to. Do specific to them vaccinations. So you dont have, you dont have a Vaccination Requirement in your School District . No we do not have a Vaccination Requirement in my School District at this. Time when were talking about levels of mitigation, one level would be having vaccinated teachers, hopefully a lot of them are vaccinated. A second level would be masks. Why did you decide, to require masks inside the schools, despite the fact that the government said he would take away funding for your School District . This decision was something that was very difficult for us to consider. And to look into. And to make a decision on. When it happened, is the numbers here in the county were starting to spike. And our numbers. And we continue to see spreads that were happening throughout our county. We are now also starting to see where the hospitalisation rates, in the Pediatric Icu Beds were also increasing, and so whereas originally in the summertime we were thinking we are going to be able to make a optional, it just got to the point where unfortunately, the data for our county, was very alarming and very concerning. And were coming Back To School, all back in person, so we knew that the strategy was separate by six feet or three, feet its just nearly impossible inside of a classroom. So with the Positivity Rate increasing, and knowing that we needed to take as many mitigating factors into play as possible, that was Wire Board made that decision. A very difficult decision. We did not want to go against the governor. But at the same time, they are responsible, their constitutional duties require for them to provide that safe environment, here locally. Within the county. What is it mean for the county, in Terms Of, i am still a little unclear about what the actual stick the governments wielding against the School District. So, what he did is actually we have two different sanctions, that are in place. The first sanction that he is doing, is withholding the School Board member salaries. For each month that we are not in compliance. Thats important also to realize that even though our board made this decision, we were revisiting the decision, after labor day. So we will continue to monitor. Its not a decision thats been made for the entire year. So our School Board members, prior to the commissioner coming out and saying that they were going to withhold their funds, they withheld an august 26. It was 35, 000, a little bit over that. That they did. And when withholding those funds, and the other thing that they also put in sanctions for, was paperwork. As you might say. So on a daily basis, every one of my schools, every one of them, that those principles at this point in time have to certify, a report that basically goes into, listing the names of students, the parents information, the Contact Information for any student that we had to discipline. Or, if a parent or the student themselves, or a caregiver, just reports that the child has been harassed. Were doing that because even in the order they gave us was so vague. So they are punishing you, with some paperwork. For a masking requirement. To try to protect the school. Have parents been generally how parents been about this . Overwhelmingly supportive, everywhere im going, when im interacting with the community members, when im interacting out at our school sites, of course there are parents there as well. Every one of them. Thank you. Thank you for protecting your children. Mitigation efforts really work, as a collective undertaking. That is something that i think has not really gotten through to some folks. Doctor, thank you so much for coming on tonight. I really appreciated. Absolutely. You have a wonderful evening. And thank you for this opportunity. You have a good evening to. That is all in for this evening. The Rachel Maddow Show shot right. Now good evening rage. Good evening chris. Thanks my friend. And thanks athome for joining us this. 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