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Cases continue the surge in the united states. Hospitals being pushed once again to the breaking point. Welcome to mtp daily. We expect to hear from President Biden on the issue of afghanistan in the next hour, trying to put a period on the withdrawal from americas longest war. The president is scheduled to speak at 2 45 this afternoon on the East Coast as he faces a range of questions about the road ahead, strategically, diplomatically, and eventually politically. This comes one day after the last flight carrying u. S. Troops left kabul, just about 20 years from the day the troops first set foot In Afghanistan. U. S. Central command released this photo. The last u. S. Soldier to leave. Major general chris done a few, commander of the 82nd airborne division. This is the last group, including ambassador holding the american flag. Minutes after american troops left, the taliban assumed control of the airport. Exclusive video shows fighters inspecting what was left behind. Pentagon said they made weapons and equipment in operable before completing withdrawal. Despite evacuating more than 120,000 since August 14th in what the president called the largest airlift in American History, officials did concede between 100 and 200 americans that wanted to leave do remain in the country. The seconds addressed that late this afternoon. We will continue our relentless efforts to help americans, foreign nationals and afghans leave afghanistan if they choose. We believe there are still a small number of americans, under 200, and likely closer to 100, who remain In Afghanistan and want to leave. Were trying to determine exactly how many. Were going through manifests and Calling And Texting through our lists. Well have more details to share as soon as possible. As that last u. S. Military flight left kabul, the taliban celebrated completion of the u. S. Withdrawal, fireworks, nonetheless. The spokesperson said they were celebrating independence. A charter of American History that began more than 20 years ago. Cost more than 2400 service members, among them 13 killed in last Weeks Attack on the kabul airport. Our chief white House Correspondent Peter alexander at the White House, Courtney Kube at the Pentagon And David ignatius. Peter, i am curious what the White House thinks the president , he may have something to say, im not sure whether the public is still listening now on afghanistan but what does the President Hope to accomplish with his Remarks Today . Reporter were hearing from his Press Secretary, Jen Psaki, previewing remarks to take place the next couple of hours, saying he will thank those military commanders and service members for helping successfully evacuate more than 124,000 americans and afghan allies to safety over the course of the last several weeks, volunteers and veterans for efforts they put into the process as well. Hell detail his decision to epidemic the war and some tough decisions he had to make in the course of the last seven months to get to this point. Just yesterday in a statement, we heard him note it was unanimous decision of u. S. Military leaders, that the President Stick to the August 31st date. The president saying that was the best solution to help protect american troops and preserve prospects of getting out remaining americans and other allies in the future. Beyond that, the president is going to sort of detail according to Jen Psaki The Way he views Foreign Policy through the prism of what is in americas national interest, that he would always put safety of americans first. The president facing a lot of criticism that the u. S. Is less safe. Youve seen the weaponry thats in the hands of the taliban, in spite of The Pentagon saying much of it was rendered inoperable. Chuck, to give a sense of a window into The Way the White House views this, in the past couple hours, heard from Ron Klain who put a tweet out, sharing a New York Times article that noted a majority of americans support the president on his desire to take the troops out of afghanistan, to bring them home. Theres a lot of political consequences that they face in the long and short term as well. I am curious, peter, wondering how the president is handling criticism from parents of the dead soldiers. It seems like the meeting at dover, the meetings did not go very well. Perhaps that should be expected. We saw there were some, these are grieving parents, these are angry parents, especially when it is supposed to be a war were not fighting any more. From what you hear, how is the president handling that criticism . Well, i think clearly this was an uncomfortable conversation that happened Behind Closed Doors at Dover Air Force base as would be expected. So many of the families losing loved ones there. Some of their words were heated to the president , saying to him he needs to remember these names, remember these faces, expressing frustration when he brought up the loss of his own son. They said this isnt about your family, this is about ours here. White house officials we speak to even publicly said there is nothing that a president , that this president , any Commander In Chief can say to the families to help assuage the heartbreak theyre experiencing right now, but they say they remain committed to help comfort them, do whatever they can for those families going forward. It is notable that one of the parents did say even though he was very frustrated with the president , there was one thing he gave President Biden cudos, the fact he carries with him in his pocket the list that identifies the number of american lives lost, 2461 the tally at this point. Beneath that number said Plus 13 for 13 that lost their lives the last several days. Yeah. I saw that. It was almost the one thing reporters could find that seemed to have positive interaction with the president. Peter alexander at the White House. Thank you. Courtney kube, i want to first get an update on our mission against isisk. It is not done. That we know. But how to they conduct it now . Reporter we had a very stark reminder about how the mission against isisk is not over. Yesterday we heard the first time from general frank mckenzie new numbers about the presence of isisk In Afghanistan. He is now saying there are at least 2,000 hardcore, hardened Isis Fighters as he called them In Afghanistan. Thats up from the most recent estimates we had from United Nations earlier this summer, somewhere in the neighborhood of 500, up to 1200 total Isis Fighters In Afghanistan. General mckenzie explaining the reason the number has gone up in large part is due to the fact that the taliban as they were rolling through parts of the country earlier this summer, they were emptying prisons, releasing many of those fighters. General mckenzie saying the taliban, now that theyre in charge of security for the country are going to have a rough time dealing with these Isis Fighters, saying that they let them out of the prisons, they will reap what they sew. The threat from isis is still real, even now that the u. S. Military is out of the country. The u. S. Will continue to carry out strikes, to try to target isis In Afghanistan, Defense Officials explaining President Biden made it clear to them that he wanted to dismantle that network that was responsible for the attack last week at kabul airport, but their mission will be more and more difficult now that there arent u. S. Troops on the ground. They used to rely significantly on Human Intelligence there. They relied on the afghan military thats now been dismantled for intelligence. The u. S. Has the ability with overhead and other ways of gathering information, but the reality is what was once a clear picture on the ground of the intelligence of the Isis Presence is now much murkier without u. S. Military there. Courtney, you were telling us sunday on Meet The Press about this with isisk. What is that definition of dismantling the network, the cell or the the goal is both. They started with this specific cell. The two individuals first targeted friday with a drone strike, one of them was specifically known for helping, teaching with this magnetic explosive capability. That was what was used at the abbey gate last thursday. That was an attempt, specific attempt to stop these kinds of attacks in the future going forward, but beyond that Defense Officials say theres still a real Interest And Effort to go after larger isisk. Now that the taliban are in charge there, they will theoretically as enemy of isisk will be going after them as well, but the major Isis Prepsz is in the ungoverned areas. The taliban will have a difficult time going after them, especially and while trying to govern. I was trying to get the Press Secretary John Kirby and later with general mckenzie, will the u. S. Coordinate as we have seen them do with the taliban, will they coordinate going forward in the fight against isisk. I didnt get real answers to that. We dont know whats going to happen with that going forward. What if the taliban ask for our help . Reporter exactly. What if the taliban have intelligence to provide the united states to use to go after isis. We dont know how it will look going forward. Well try to find somebody that can give us some idea. David ignatius, as well sourced as anybody outside our friends there. The likelihood were going to have some uneasy semi positive diplomatic relationship with the taliban in the next year, whats that likelihood . So i wouldnt use the word diplomatic, chuck. I think the u. S. Deliberately withholding that idea of diplomatic recognition, the ideas to watch and see what the cobb does, create an inclusive government, i void the Civil War that may be looming by taking in other ethnic groups. What we already are seeing and i think the u. S. Would very much like to continue is a kind of Security Cooperation. Its been extraordinary since the initial contacts between general frank mckenzie, centcom commanders as kabul was falling, that there was a sort of informal, i dont want to call it partnership, certainly cooperation about security. Messages were exchanged about isisk threats. I can remember two years ago being in kabul with then commander scottie miller, u. S. General who talked then about his hopes that there would be at least a De Facto alliance between the taliban and the united states going forward, going after isisk. Talked about a number of provinces where it was in effect cooperation. We would bomb, they would go in after. Will that happen going forward, the idea we would share intelligence with them through some channel that would help them take action, Thats Something you can imagine. What weve seen in these initial days is that our ability to do socalled over the Horizon Counterterrorism strikes is stronger than you might have thought, the ability to act against planners in the Far East of afghanistan to target the Suicide Bombers coming toward the airport two days ago, shows those capabilities are pretty robust. It is. Although we were still on the ground In Afghanistan. But i take your point on that. Lets take a step back. I am trying to figure out what the president can say today that will at all be heard in a way that moves us forward. So we went back into archives. Here is President Ford after the pictures in saigon. He said among statements he made was this, this action closes a chapter in the american experience. I ask all americans to close ranks, avoid recrimination about the past, look ahead to many goals we share and work together on the great tasks that remain to be accomplished. If theres a difference between afghanistan and vietnam, No One can agree should we have gone in the first place. Theres almost universal agreement we had to go into afghanistan. Where it fell apart was what was the ultimate goal after we met our near term objectives. How should the President Frame Afghanistan for the american Public And History books . I think the first thing that he is certain to say is to express relief that our rescue mission, real courage shown by u. S. Military and other personnel in kabul the last two weeks, that thats ended. When the last plane left, terrible sense we felt of jeopardy, another attack that might kill 13 more americans, but thats over. Second thing im sure he will say is we need to keep faith with the people of afghanistan, we have been deeply involved in our lives, women of afghanistan, People Yearning for more modern life, in what ways we can, we want to keep faith with them. And finally he is going to say what president s do, you see the anguish on his face every time he has spoken about afghanistan, withdrawal since it went bad. He is going to say i did what i felt was right. I did what i felt the american people wanted. I felt it was time to end this war. Its over. I think we all feel this way, it is over. The last plane left, chapter in american life is ending, and now need to recover Self Confidence and sense of Balance And Move forward. All right. But let me ask you this one. What do you say to our allies who feel a bit snake bit. I want to quote senior diplomat, eu chief diplomat. What he told the italian newspaper. This has been above all a at that tas tropical storm Florence Ee for the afghan people, a failure of the western World And Game changer for international relations. The eu must be able to intervene to protect when the americans dont want to be involved. What does he have to say to reassure the europeans . If the europeans want to jump back into afghanistan, i would be surprised. Theyre pulling out of countries where they have been involved. I think the simple answer to that, chuck, is we will now depend in a special way on the intelligence sharing, Security Cooperation that characterizes the western alliance. Well do that Sharing Intelligence i expect with countries not part of nato or western alliance. Russia will be mighty worried about terrorism on its borders, the stans that border afghanistan to the north are going to be worried. Well be exchanging a lot of information. That really in The End is americas abiding power. We are the only country that has this global intelligence capability, global counterterrorism capability. People around the world will need it, it is up to the united states and President Biden to make it available, to say whatever mistakes we made getting out of afghanistan, we all need to be safe together. I think he will have responsive ear to that because people are worried. Probably frustrates the europeans, they can mudder and complain, end of the day they probably need us more than they want to admit. David, thank you. Much appreciated. Coming up, with the u. S. Military gone, there wont be diplomatic presence In Afghanistan. I speak with a former ambassador about what the new mission could look like and future of u. S. Relations with the taliban, thats next. 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With the taliban in control, dozens of americans reportedly left behind, what will the new diplomatic Mission Look like . Joining me, ronald newman, u. S. Ambassador to afghanistan under george w. Bush. Ambassador newman, appreciate you taking a few minutes with me. So we dont have a Diplomatic Mission in country but we have one sort of working on things out of country. Reminds me, recently you could argue Robert Ford when he was ambassador to syria was sort of, that was kind of how we dealt with syria, outside the country. How does this work and how long can you really have a mission that isnt in the actual country . Well, you can have it almost indefinitely. We had no relations with china for what, 20 or 30 years after World War ii. Thats a pretty big country. How will it work . There are two different models here. One is when you still have relations with the country, youre just not resident in the country. The other is when, there are three models, when the relationship is completely broken and you dont even deal with them. And the third is when you dont have formal relations but you have another country that acts, protecting power. And in that case sometimes you may have those in there, we can deliver messages to the iran government through the Swiss Embassy. All these have the ability, tend to be slow and cumbersome. Weve had situations like china where we had no relations at all. We also had arrangements to passage of people with countries where we didnt have relationships. So theres quite a spectrum. The Swiss Embassy in havana, it was always how the americans sent and received messages there as well. Let me ask you, ambassador, it seems that we are Tip Toeing toward some sort of relationship with the taliban. I guess there are two ways of looking at it. We have no choice or its worth at least seeing how far we can take this before we pull up stakes. How would you walk this line with the taliban . Well, i think you walk it as you do so many other things from a Starting Point of american interests. What is it you want to achieve. We have a batch of things we want to achieve In Afghanistan. We have a lot of residual responsibility first of all to the people that worked with us, special immigrant visas, womens activists, others, who i think we have a real responsibility to. We have not discharged that responsibility. We ended the mission more quickly than i think we had to, more quickly than our nato allies wanted us to, but thats where we are. We still have that residual responsibility. We have long term things. Theres the problem with narcotics In Afghanistan, theres a huge question of potential instability, Al Qaeda is still there, islamic state is still there, i dont know, a dozen other or maybe more independent terrorist insurgent organizations. We have an interest in instability radiating out every direction. There are plenty of things we want to work on. The question is do the taliban want to work on any of them. Things there were effectively, may be things we both want to work on, there may be things where we are prepared to trade something they want like some measure of aid for some things they want. So all of this, you explore those things and then you see where you can get. Then the question of whether you have official relations, how much you deal with them, this is what your interests are and when you can achieve them. Look, getting isisk, getting the Terror Network could be an interesting test between talk about something that maybe both the taliban and united states would like to see happen and see how it works. Let me ask you a question i have been asking everybody involved in some part of 20 years of afghanistan. I asked the former secretary of defense, leon panetta, john bolton, former national Security Adviser general mcmaster. Ill ask the same to you. What was your biggest miscalculation with afghanistan, what in hindsight did we get very long that you didnt see in the moment . Thats interesting. There were things we wanted but didnt get like more economic aid. Well, when gates took over secretary of defense and came out with general pace and general eikenberry what we needed in troops, i think we underrated what was still needed or what we were about when i left, i said we were not losing yet but could be in a year. I dont know that there were so many a lot of things in The Field where you can argue this or that was a mistake, some of them are things where the mistake is not to learn from what youre doing rather than to condemn everything was a mistake. Sometimes theres a broad brash, it was all wrong or all right. Thats one of the issues that everybody is talking about almost universally wrongly, that we morphed into building a modern democracy. What you had is, we had three administrations in succession trying to find how do you get enough stability to take your hands off this thing and get out. And by exaggerating what we tried to do, i dont think youre going to get a lot of understanding for either the problem of the past or the next problem. Well, we could discuss this for a lot more time. I think you just put your finger on something. We had a Succession F administrations looking for enough stability to get out. By my count, we had ten policies in 20 years. And thats probably being generous. Thats specific changes of policy. When you say why cant you see we couldnt get it right in 20 years, we couldnt stick to one plan for two. Right. Right. Ambassador, really appreciate your time. Thanks for coming on and sharing. Thanks, my pleasure. Up next, were getting a fuller picture of destruction brought by Hurricane Ida. Hundreds of thousands are without power. The question is how long are they without power. 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It caused over 800,000 outages. Ellison barber is on the ground in New Orleans and has the latest. Ellison, this is, obviously, one Backup System never worked, natural gas power plant. How much of this is just the storm was too powerful and how much are people wondering whether Entergy Wasnt prepared enough for the storm . Reporter you know, honestly, the question most people we have spoken to now, what they have is how are they going to get help, how quickly can they get it. We are at a Distribution Site setting up charging stations, bringing Food And Water. I want to show you Real Life impact. When power is out, it is not just uncomfortable and hot, this is three days without power. Theyre running out of food. Even if Grocery Stores and restaurants were open, many dont have cash on no way to get cash. Atms are down. Banks not open. People are lined up. Everyone in these cars are waiting for help. It goes around The Block, around The Block again, around The Block again. You can look here, you see people waiting on this side. Literally more cars over there. Everyone waiting for some assistance, assistance they have not set up. One tent is all thats set up here so far. Entergy is out doing Damage Assessments to try to get a sense how long it will take to restore power. They also said Damage Assessments could take up to three days. Then they can give customers a better time frame when theyll have power back on. One person we spoke to, her father is on dialysis. Shes worried about getting across the river to get him assistance. Shes running low on gas, shes leaving him outside the house instead of inside. Questions theyre asking is when will people help us. They have no way to figure out where theres help because peoples phones are dead. One person said it was through Word Of Mouth in the neighborhood. They came as quickly as they could to wait and hope for help. Chuck . Ellison barber with a grim picture of the current situation now in louisiana. 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Joint by the Assistant Administrator that helps run the Response Efforts. Currently working on the efforts in louisiana. Let me start with the issue of power and our friends at entergy. We heard that it may be three days that they have to make assessment, which then sounds to me like three days before they start to work on repairs. What is the situation, is there any way to speed it up . First, thanks for having me to talk about our coordination here for louisiana for the impacts from Hurricane Ida. As you pointed out, power is a critical issue. It will be critical for the Response Efforts overall. It is going to be a challenge. A category four storm, stayed a category four significant time as it moved inland. Theres damage to Transmission Lines and to distribution. The main Transmission Lines as you pointed out in New Orleans are down. It is a complicated situation. We are well sinked up, ensuring whatever support we provide through the restoration well do so. The other important part is while power is out, we are working hard to bring in generators with partners at the Army Core of engineers for critical facilities, hospitals, Water Treatment plans, so they continue to operate while the Restoration Effort continues. Want to ask about the levees. We know they held in New Orleans, thats good news, water did go over the top of some in la Place And Jefferson parish. Is there anything in hindsight, was there not enough focus on other places, too much focus on New Orleans or this is just what happens . Well, there will be time for questions at some point. Today we are focused on lifesaving efforts, it is an active and fluid situation. As i heard earlier in reporting, it is not necessarily safe for survivors to come back to the area at this point. We are focused on ensuring that folks stay safe, that they have Food And Water and supplies needed and there will be time for Damage Assessments and other assessments at a later point. You heard the other report from ellison barber. People have power issues, theyve got cash issues, theyre looking for money, the atms arent working. How quickly is fema able to start handing out some checks, some supplies in some places . Well, first off, say the president did declare major disaster declaration. Individual assistance is available. Those that are displaced can register with fema for assistance. Go to disaster assistance. Gov or the fema mobile app. We also recognize that folks dont have power. Dont have communication. Well have folks, staff on the ground, going door to door to identify where there are needs, ensuring survivors have a chance to register for assistance. In addition, working closely with partners at the state and local level for points of distribution where individuals can go, get Food And Water, understand, communicate what their needs are, find assistance. And finally, there are places that right now you get drone footage, having trouble getting people there, talking about Grand Isle and other Island Areas of louisiana. How soon can you get people out there and how extensive is the damage you have been able to survey . Yeah, it is pretty extensive. As you mentioned, those areas on the southern coast, lower portion of the parishes got the direct hit from a category four storm, very strong storm. Folks are working their way out there, state and local folks have lead on Search And Rescue. We have over ten Search And Rescue teams in the area helping with that, with those efforts. We expect damage to be significant. It will be a long road to recovery. It will be a long process. Well be with folks the whole time. Today, our focus is on lifesaving and sustaining efforts. Making sure everyone is safe and stays safe. How soon before we get a more accurate picture of the power situation, is that going to take the rest of the week or do you think by end of the week you can give some reasonable forecast for when lights come on . I think the state of louisiana and Energy Company has the lead on that. Were going to stay with them. Each day well get more clarity what it looks like. We know it will be a long process. Even as progress is made, there will be pockets of areas that may take longer. It will take patience. Well stay synched up and make sure the supplies and commodities and support they need while the power is out is available to them. Keith turi, Assistant Administrator of fema. Thanks for coming on. Thank you. Letting us know what youre up to. Appreciate it. Up ahead, we turn to the Coronavirus Surge that shows no sign of letting up. The fear of whats to come with the new variant. s to come with the new variant. Es, its important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose. 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We havent had a streak like that since mid march. All of these key metrics, cases, deaths and hospitalizations are dramatically worse than they were on this Day One year ago despite the fact that we now have safe and effective vaccines. Joining me is the director of the university of Minnesota Center for infectious Disease Research and policy. I want to start with the news of this new variant. Every variant obviously a concern for epidemiologists like yourself. How concerned are you about it . We have a number of variants that come forward literally by the month just because of the mutations occurring with this virus around the world. Occasionally some of them become variants of concern, which the one from South Africa is. Everything i see supports the fact that delta is the Number One variant on The Block and will stay that way. It is highly infectious. While were watching closely South Africa, i had to suggest like real estate, location, location, location, this pandemic is about delta, delta, delta. Im curious how we should take this. If you look at our case counts, it looks like were beginning to plateau. Are we . Or are we starting to reach peaks . We are definitely hitting a plateau in the Southern States up through arkansas that were hit so hard over the past six weeks. They only make up about 12. 5 of the u. S. Population. While those Case Numbers are surely important in how the surge got to where its at, were beginning to see regional activity in the southeast, georgia, north carolina, south carolina, kentucky, illinois, tennessee, indiana, wyoming, oregon, washington, idaho and wisconsin and iowa to michigan. Are they all going to continue to see the increases theyve seen while the southern areas go down . The number of cases could continue to rise for some time. What happens after we hit this peak and come down . If we follow the scenario of whats happened in the united kingdom, they started out at 1,000 to 2,000 cases reported, and now today were at about 32,000 cases a day. Will the Surge Drop as quickly and as deep as it was when it first started or will we see somewhere in between which is a possibility . Any correlation with the opening of school . Is this a coincidence of timing or a direct correlation . Clearly the pandemic cases in much of the united states in terms of schools in the Southern States did coincide with the increase in cases there, but i cant say it was from schools that were responsible for this big increase. If you look at the northern states, many havent even started school yet. Schools are going to be a very important part of this pandemic. We in public health have done a disservice to the Education Community because weve continued to put out documents saying we can do school safe. This virus is a very different virus than the one we dealt with a year ago when many of those studies were done that are now being used were done in a time when delta didnt exist. Delta is a very different virus. It is transmitted very readily. As youre seeing in the Southern States right now, they are in many instances back to Distance Learning because of the large number of cases in their schools. That could surely have another impact on the surge that we just talked for how long it lasts and how bad it might get. I have this recurring fear that were going to look back and wonder why we didnt at least delay the start of school two weeks maybe. I get we didnt want to go to remote school, but i wonder that. Last question has to do with the third shot for the vaccine. We know President Biden met with the Prime Minister of israel and hes thinking, hey, lets do five months rather than eight months. Thats because of the Research Weve seen out of israel. Where do you expect Fda And Cdc to come down on this third shot . Let me tell you where im at on it. Weve painted that third shot as a booster dose, meaning it was an addon as just an additional Comfort Level for us. We have to understand that when we put these vaccines together as quickly as we did, we did it with the idea of getting results as quickly as we could so we could save millions of lives. At this point i would say we are going to need three shots and its going to be the prime series, whether its five or eight months for the third dose, its going to occur not just as a booster but as part of the series. Thank you all for being with us this hour. Well be back tomorrow. In the next hour we expect to hear from President Biden again marking The End of the 20year war In Afghanistan. E end of ther war In Afghanistan this is how you become the best [music youre the best by joe esposito] [music youre the best by joe esposito] [triumphantly yells] [ding] dont get mad. 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