This hurricane is called ida. It looks particularly worrying because it is large already, because it is moving slowly. Because the Storm Surge and rainfall amounts associated with that are epic. And it is due to track over some unusually warm water, on its way toward land. As a general rule, with offshore storms like this, the warmth of the Ocean Temperatures that the storm passes through on their way to land, those temperatures translate directly into fuel for the energy of the storm. Again, i know a new million things are going on right now, it doesnt feel like we have the bandwidth to handle another disaster, but here she comes. Hurricane ida its going to be a big part of your News Diet over the weekend. If you are in the path of the storm you need to pay very close attention to public warnings and Evacuation Orders. We will have more on that later on this hour. Also, in afghanistan, as we speak, it is just about don In Kabul, after the Isis Suicide Bombing of the Kabul Airport. The u. S. Military Evacuation Airlift was still able to get another 12,500 people airlifted out in the past 24 hours, which is remarkable. The largescale evacuation effort, though, is expected to end soon. A huge, long list of our western allies have stopped their own Evacuation Efforts now. And left entirely. That includes great britain, germany, spain and lots of our other allies. The united States Military, that said, is still there. U. S. Flights are still leaving. But as the days of this Evacuation Order grow shorter, the White House is warning that the risk for another Isis Attack targeting the airport is very high and growing, as more time passes. We heard those warnings all day today. It makes sense, if isis thinks it wants to hit u. S. Service members again, they know the time is short to do so. So each remaining hour becomes more dangerous than the last four Service Members who are still there. Just in the last few minutes, in the last ten minutes we have just received word that the u. S. Embassy has put out a now theyre very specific warning. This is important because they put out a warning like this hours before the terrible Isis Bombing that claimed the lives of those Service Members and the dozens of afghan civilians. Just within the last ten minutes, the u. S. Embassy has put out a another very specific urgent warning. Citizens who are at the abbey gate, north gate, East Gate or new ministry of Interior Gate at the Kabul Airport should leave immediately. Because of Security Threats at the Kabul Airport, we advise against the presence at the airport gates. Any u. S. Citizens at those gates should now leave immediately. An urgent warning from the u. S. Embassy out moments ago. The Death Toll from Yesterdays Attack has been revised up from this time Last Night. At this point it is 170 by some counts. Never to 200 by some other counts. In any case it is absolutely intolerable. The toll among u. S. Military Service Members stands at 13 with 18 injured. Of those american Service Members killed, 11 are united states marines, one is a u. S. Navy corpsman, one is an army soldier. The names of the Service Members who are killed are starting to appear in some media sources. The pentagon is not expected to officially announce the names of all of those killed until this weekend, until after all notifications of their families have been made. Those notifications are expected to include personal calls from President Biden to the family of those killed. We will expect pentagon official notification of all those names once notifications are done. Today here at home, supreme Court Justice Stephen breyer has given an interview to the new york times, in which he has said he does not intend to stay on the supreme until he dies. This is actually the first time Justice Breyer has said such a thing. Justice breyer in this interview has expressed for the first time that he does understand that It Matters who chooses his replacement. He expresses that he understands that it may not be ideal for his legacy if he were replaced on the court with, say, a rightwing justice who was diametrically opposed to everything he stands for, you can then spend the next 25 years undoings accomplishments. And i know those things sound like elementary admissions. Id prefer not to die in this job and it really matters who replaces me. But Justice Stephen Breyer has never shopped to understanding those things or placing value on those things before. This is the first interview in which he has talked about those things. Democrats and liberals have been wondering wondering . Wondering is the nice word, since Bidens Inauguration Day why Justice Stephen Breyer is not retiring, while there is this precious window of a democratic president to choose his successor, a very narrow democratic senate to confirm his successor. Democrats and liberals have been wondering why he hasnt taken the opportunity to retire now, since inauguration day. They are still wondering that today. But with this interview, Justice Breyer is at least public engaging with the idea that what he decides here matters for the country. And that maybe if he could take action, personally, to avoid there being a 7 to 2 conservative majority on the court for another generation, that may be aware the part of his legacy. Maybe. No rush, No One bush, No One is pushing. Since the existing conservative majority on the Supreme Court has ripped the guts out of the federal voting Rights Act in successive rulings, the fight for Voting Rights has become more desperate and creative, including a lot of creative and desperate Protest Demonstrations and advocacy this summer. This weekend we are expecting large marches for Voting Rights in dozens of u. S. Cities, including potentially Tens Of Thousands of people marching in washington d. C. Tomorrow. We will have more coming up on that later on in the show, but we are watching all those stories. Where i want to start with tonight, though, is a story we have been working on for a while now. Its a story you may have seen headlines about in recent days, depending on where you live. If, for example, you live in lafayette, louisiana, you are a daily newspaper maybe the acadia Daily Advertiser. Here is the Front Page of the Daily Advertiser from this morning. You see the big Front Page Picture there. It is there a one feature on the bombing of the Kabul Airport yesterday. Next to that, tropical Storm Ida takes aim at louisiana. The forecast says conditions are favorable to become a category three hurricane. This is from this morning. The forecast is now even worse and now looking like a category four. But even with those two big stories, really important stories on the Front Page, look at their top story, above the fold, all The Way across the top. Dont take horse mids. Thats their main story. Public Health Officer and Agriculture Commissioner warned against taking a Livestock Drug for covid19. That is the top story today, even with everything else going on, in lafayette, louisiana. And i have to tell you, some kind of local iteration of that story has run in more than a Half Dozen states in the last few days. In mississippi, a version of that story has been front Page News in multiple papers this week. We have seen multiple iterations of the same story in papers in mississippi, where it has been Front Page. We have also seen it in kansas, missouri, texas, arkansas, florida, tennessee. Those are just ones that i happen to pull over this past week. Im sure it is happening elsewhere. But why is this happening elsewhere . Why all over the country . But particularly in red states having huge Covid Surges right now, why is this thing happening . With Poison Control centers having to come forward and say, all our calls are about people taking this drug formulated for horses and sheep. All these warnings against using this Livestock Drug, this anti parasitic parasitic drug, as if it is a covid medicine. As if it is a covid preventive, when it is not. Why is this happening right now . Yesterday, the cdc put out a national advisory on this against taking this drug, ivermectin, for covid, but also noting that many people in lots of states are doing that anyway. The title of the advisory is, rapid increase in Ivermectin Prescriptions and reports of severe illness associated with products associated to treat with covid19. And most of this is technical detail about what they are observing about people miss using this drug. This drug is properly used for treating worms and livestock. And the human formulation, it is used to kill Head Lice or scabies or to treat river binds blindness. But this advisory ends with very specific advice for the public. Be aware that ivermectin has not been proven as a way to prevent or treat covid19. Do not swallow Ivermectin Products that should be used on the skin, for example lotions and creams, or are not meant for human use, such as Veterinarian Ivermectin products. Seek immediate medical attention or call the Poison Control center if you have taken ivermectin and are having symptoms such as nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, diarrhea, headache, blurred vision, other severe Nervousness System effects have been reported. Including tremors, seizures, hallucinations, loss of balance, decreased alertness and coma. Be sure to call if you have taken this drug that doesnt treat covid but could put you in a coma. This new Cdc Warning follows similar warnings from the fda, much earlier in the year. Ivermectin is not approved for the Prevention Or Treatment of covid19. Some of the Side Effects that may be associated with Ivermectin And Kid include Skin Rash, nausea, lynn swelling, neurological adverse events, including seizures, confusion, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe Skin Rash potentially requiring Hospitalization And Liver injury. There are similarly dire warnings even from the company that makes the drug, in its formulation for humans. There is no scientific basis for a potential Therapeutic Effect against covid19. But those other warnings, those other cautions that this drug does nothing to protect you from getting covid or help you get over it if you have it, those other warnings are months old. And they havent had a deterrent effect, particularly recently. This new cdc advisory, out yesterday, is explicit about the harm that is happening right now, about the rapid increase in negative consequences associated with people miss using this drug. Despite the warnings that have been out there for a long time, that No One should be dosing themselves with this thing. Again, from the cdc health advisory, examples of recent significant adverse effects reported to Poison Control centers include the following. An Adult Patient presented with Altered Mental Status after taking Ivermectin Tablets of unknown strength purchased on the internet. The patient took tablets each day and was disoriented, had difficulty answering questions and following commands. Symptoms improved with discontinuation of ivermectin following hospitalisation. Also, this is a good one. An adult drank an injectable Ivermectin Formulation intended for use in cattle. In an attempt to prevent covid19 infection. This patient presented to a Hospitalisation Hospital with visual hallucinations, rapid breathing, also tremors. The patient recovered after being hospitalized for nine days. Nine days nine days in the hospital. Drinking injectable ivermectin formulated as an injection that you would shoot into a cow. Nine days in the hospital, at a time when im sure that Hospital Bed was not needed by Anyone Else right . Why is this happening now . To those four individuals described in the cdc advisory, but why is it happening in such large numbers. What is going on right now to drive this . And to put it on all these Front Pages across the country. To have all these states coming forward in the past week to say, they are inundated with calls, from americans dosing themselves with these medications that dont treat covid19 and dont prevent it. The myths are making people sick and in some cases putting them in the hospital. It is not that this is just getting covered now. There is a big upsurge in this happening now. Prepandemic national prescriptions for this drug, which again, does have some legitimate uses in humans, for things like a Bed Infestation of headlights or scabies. Prepandemic there were about 3600 Human Prescriptions of this drug, per week, nationwide. About 3600. Now . According to the cdc, for the week ending august 13th, its not 3600 prescriptions a week. Its 86,000 per week now. A 24 fold increase from the prepandemic baseline, for a drug that neither prevents or treats covid and can make you very sick and potentially kill you. Why is this happening . Interesting story, it turns out. Do you remember this . This was last summer, july 27th, 2020. Looks like a normal bunch, right . Doctors in white coats standing at the Supreme Court. Why are they there . No idea. But its a nice setting, looks very official. They are all wearing white coats, the same white coat in fact with a local logo on them. It is from something called Americas Frontline doctors. It would later emerge that this group was convened by conservative activists who wanted to make it seem like then President Trump Wasnt against doctors exactly, and against medicine in science, in his continuing bizarre statements about covid. And how it was going to go away on its own like magic. Conservative groups wanted to make it seem like President Trump was siding with doctors, just different doctors. As represented by these folks, inexplicably standing on the steps of the Supreme Court. And with a permit from the tea party group, set up by a conservative Activist Group in support of President Trump, this group, Americas Frontline doctors, gave a Press Conference where they announced that covid was no big deal. You definitely dont need to stay distant from Anyone Else, or with wear a mask, because covid is no big deal. And if you do catch, dont worry, there is a cure. They said. It can be cured with a drug called hydroxychloroquine, which is an anti malaria drug. But dont let the Detail Screw you up. The Star Speaker that day was this doctor, who said, i know you people want to talk about a mask. Hello, you dont need a mask, there is a cure, its called hydroxychloroquine him. Hydroxychloroquine and zinc. Then President Trump retweeted a video of that doctors Press Conference. The White House arranged for a white coat summit, from members of that group, to meet with Vice President mike pence. You will recall he was the head of the white House Coronavirus Task force. It later emerged after five seconds of sleuthing by everyone with access to google, it emerged that the Doctor Who Led that Press Conference, we said you tonight not need a mask, just take hydroxychloroquine she has claimed that gynecological problems are in fact caused by and vaccines are meant to make you no longer religious. And the u. S. Government, beware, is run by reptiles. Im sorry, not by reptiles. But by reptilian people, who look like people but there is a lizard underneath. Also, you shouldnt trust western medicine because it is made with Alien Dna. You dont want alien Dna Mixing with your good dna, right . Well that proved to be the background on the Americas Frontline doctor group. When that proved to be the background on this, folks, President Trump, confronted with that information, said he was still with this group. Because to him, they were very impressive. The woman that you said was a great doctor inevitable that you retreated Last Night, so that masks dont work and there is a cure for covid19, both of which Health Experts say is not true. She has also made video saying that doctors make medicine using dna from aliens and that they are trying to create a vaccine to make you immune from becoming religious. Maybe it is maybe its not. But she was on air with many other doctors who were big fans of hydroxychloroquine and i thought she was very impressive. Very impressive. Are you saying you are in favor of Diamond Sex . And our reptilian overlords . You Alien Dna loving mask wearers. But that group of folks, promoted and championed by the trump White House, they ended up becoming a Cause Celeb on the fox news channel, we are Fox Hosts expressed outrage that that group of doctors, that their claims about covid were being taken down by facebook and other social Media Platforms. Without a boost from the sitting President Of The United States and the Vice President , but also from the biggest conservative Media Platform in the country. The doctors would go on in the following months to leading a traveling Road Show that was focused on antivaccinations. Their founder, simone gould, allegedly took part in the January 6th attack, and charged with violent entry and disorderly conduct later. Nbc reports that she has been released on her own recognizance but she headlined an antivaccine rally just this past weekend in southern california. And now, Nbc News, and other News Outlets are reporting, that wet the Americas Frontline Doctors Fiasco appears to have morphed into now, is a scam. A scam to market horse paste. To Market Anti Lice And Livestock anti worming medication, to people who believe that they should not take the Covid Vaccine. People who believe that there must be a cure for covid but it is secret, that man is trying to keep It Secret from you, and you can find it at a veterinarian clinic. And maybe we said it was hydroxychloroquine, now we say it is ivermectin. This is from Nbc News today. Quote, the website for Americas Frontline doctors directs people to speak with an empty, this website, threw a button that reads, contact a physician. The Americas Frontline Doctors Logo is prominent on the speak with an empty Home Page. The Home Page advertisers consultations for 90. And fills prescriptions through a pharmacy, an online pharmacy that Americas Frontline doctors advertises as a partner, which provides the option to have that prescription delivered to your door on the same day. On a speak with an Md Website Intake form viewed by nbc, prospective patients are asked, what medication do you prefer . The user is then presented with three options. Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine or not sure. Because what other option is there . Here is more from time magazine. Today. On the Americas Frontline doctors website, people looking for covid19 medication, are told to contact a physician and they pay 90 for a consultation. Customers are then asked to submit Payment Information and told that one of the Frontline Doctors will call them in a few days. The group describes speak with an empty as a Telemedicine Service with hundreds of doctors trained. In reality, it is something called encore telemedicine, a company that connects patients to doctors willing to write prescriptions. It appears to have been run out of a home by a Golf Club in suburban georgia. They then go to a digital pharmacy in aubern dale, florida, whose address appears to be a dilapidated white structure near strip mall. The pharmacy is supposed to either mail the medicine or call it into a local pharmacy. The cost of the medicine is applied on top of the consultation fee. It varies widely from 70 for the medicine to 700, according to Customer Comments from Americas Frontline doctors. Its not clear how much Americas Frontline doctors get from each patient referral. The services marketed on the Groups Website for 90, but if you go direct for a telemedicine consultation, the consultation is charged just 60. A 30 Dollar difference. Americas Frontline Doctors declined to comment on whether they receive any financial benefit from the referral. The group has been trying the group has been using, excuse me, this is dumb to sell hydroxychloroquine since at least last fall. So they moved on, from warning you about the reptile people and the threat of the demon spawn. Careful who you have sex within your sleep, because you never know. They moved on from that, to promoting hydroxychloroquine as the secret cure to covid. And when that petered out, they kept up the scam, telling people definitely do not take the vaccine, because the vaccine will kill you, and dont wear a mask. And now they are telling people to pay them a considerable amount of money to take this potentially dangerous and also worthless drug, and leave you without a considerable amount of money in the process. But they will hook you up with a prescription, hook you up with an online pharmacy to fill the prescription, just keeping them out every step. And maybe someday, in the mail, possibly, you will get your headlights and cattle worms pills. Or maybe not. Customer complaints would seem to indicate that they do not always follow through. But stoking the Conspiracy Theories and lies about covid and stoking demand for this quack cure as a consequence, whether or not you can directly profit off of it. Turns out you can directly profit profit off of it. But they have an effect beyond that. Groups like this, and conspiracists like this, and Snake Oil Salesman like this, have driven a huge surge in people trying to get prescriptions for this drug, which doesnt work against covid. But they have also driven so much of the demand for it, and aside from trying to top doctors into prescribing it, or finding doctors who will prescribe it, people are also taking matters into their own hands. Trying to source it themselves without a prescription. Trying to source it, say, at the local Feed Store. And a veterinarian formulation, if you cant get someone to give you the human formulation by hook or by crook. This is from the sun herald. Coastline Home And Garden supply in gulfport, Cant Keep Ivermectin on their shelves according to one employee. The stories now having a difficult time finding the product because all locals have priors are out. When we get it, it is sold out almost immediately, and every time we try to order, its back ordered, the employee said. All of my suppliers are running out. Feed Sack Farm and Garden Supply in van cleave, mississippi, also cannot keep supply and their shelves, according to a manager, who said theyve also had trouble buying the drug from suppliers. About three weeks ago. They want to be on the safe side in the long run, but i dont recommend it because we sell a four dogs and horses and cattle. Said the manager. A Home And Garden center in Gulfport Mississippi said theyve sold a lot more of the Veterinarian Medicine in the past months. The owners in sun says they owner its definitely gone up. A manager at the George County Coop in mississippi said over the last few months theyve seen a sharp increase in ivermectin sales. Quote, oh yes, weve seen a lot more. They say my aunt wanted me to get it. I warned them that they dont need to be taking it for personal use. In the back of my mind i know what im using it theyre using it for. I tell them, this is going to hurt your kidneys or your liver. Especially or liver. Thats all i can say. God bless that manager at the George County in coop. Warning people about the Kidney And Liver damage to come, from people taking cheap formulations of an anti worm medication. By that is not just that you are friendly, conscientious Feed Store clerk is trying to help out. The Mississippi Health State officer has been doing his bit to. This has been a new phenomenon. So the data, it is curious, specialists in the field. They see that it has no value. Internet pundits think it is salvation for all. Randomized controlled trials that have been done, show that it doesnt work. That was Mississippi State Health Officer Thomas Dobbs speaking on august 11th. As time has gone over though a court said this month, he has been that you can tell he is getting a little more exasperated with it every time it comes up. You know, please work with your doctor. This is medical treatment, you wouldnt get your chemotherapy at a Feed Store. I mean, you wouldnt get your Pneumonia Medication with your animals medication. It can be dangerous to get the wrong doses of medication, especially for something that is meant for a horse or a cow. Mississippi state Health Officer. But like i said, this is not confined to one part of the country where some rumor went wild. It is all over the place. Now here is the governor of arkansas trying to talk people off of the same ledge. The Department Of Health advises people to never take any medication intended to treat animals, and to only take ivermectin as prescribed by their physician. And Doctor Romero might have some additional items to state about that, but i think it has gotten to the point where it is important for us to make that public announcement, that you have to be careful and not take that which is designed for large animals. It has gotten to the point where i seriously have to do this. We just like hydroxychloroquine, which is a fine medicine for some things but its not effective event of covid. Just like that drug was inexplicably promoted by the fox news channel, particularly its Prime Time host, as well as by former President Trump, a bunch of people on the fox news channel, including all of their primetime hosts, have all promoted the idea that people should take ivermectin as a covid therapeutic or as a preventative. Even as they have repeatedly cast out on vaccinations, which are a preventative. This drug has also been promoted by people by Response And Senator ron johnson, who Brian A Guy who called ivermectin a Miracle Drug and had that doctor testified at the Homeland Security Committee about it. It has been promoted and useful could be by the popular podcast or joe rogan, for some reason. Okay . It has also been promoted by the Snake Oil online sales folks who brought you the threat of Demon Sperm and Alien Dna, with the endorsement of then president donald trump, since he like the look of them in a white coat more than he like the look of doctor anthony fauci. All of that has been building for months now. What we are seeing right now, though, is a huge spike just in recent weeks in people taking these livestock medications. People being so desperate that they are taking Animal Formulations of this stuff. So much that it is sold out now even online. And whats driving it locally and immediately, these last few weeks appears to be a couple of things. Number one, i am very sorry to say, it appears to be driven in part by the Tidal Wave of new infections and people getting very sick and people dying, particularly in the south and particularly in communities where people do not want to take the vaccine. I mean, it is one thing to not want to take the vaccine when you think that covid is a hoax, when covid is killing people all around you and in your family, perhaps you would still like to think that the Covid Vaccine is a hoax. But Desperation And Fear may yet drive you to try other things. And the charlatans and the profiteers in the antivax movement is happy to sell the other things to you, in that instance. So part of it, it appears to be driven by increasing desperation by people who are experiencing covid Sickness And Death in their lives. But there is another thing fueling it, to. Specifically in recent weeks, and i do not want to point any fingers here but it starts with f and rams with as book. Nbc reporter Ben Collins has plunged into that slimy underworld of how this stuff is being promoted and sold and weaponize against the ill. He joins us next, stay with us. 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For you right now that we just received word, i am just going to read this to you verbatim. The following statement is a tributeable to captain bill urban, a spokesman for u. S. Central command. U. S. Military forces have conducted and over the Horizon Counterterrorism Operation today, against an Isis K planner. The unmanned Air Strike occurred in the Week Nangarhar of afghanistan, the capital of nangarhar its jalalabad, a city you have probably heard of. Back to the statement from centcom, and that we killed the target. We know of no Civilian Casualties. Again, this is Breaking News, this has just come out within the past couple of minutes from u. S. Central command. This is the only information that we have got at this point. This comes following a few recent developments that may be relevant here. Obviously, President Biden said and pointed Terms Yesterday in his Evening Address to the nation, that the u. S. Would hunt down the people responsible for that bombing yesterday. We will find you, we will make you pay. He said that he had directed u. S. Military commanders to develop a plan to strike back at Isis K, isis the chorus on, the Isis Affiliates In Afghanistan that claimed responsibility for the attack at Kabul Airport. We did, just moments before we got on the air tonight, weve got a new pointed warning from the u. S. Embassy In Kabul, advising u. S. Citizens to leave the Airport Vicinity immediately. This was the same sort of warning from the u. S. Embassy that preceded, by a matter of hours, the last Isis K attack at the Kabul Airport, that killed so many afghan civilians and 13 u. S. Service members. But again, after that attack, after the warnings of that attack from u. S. Officials, after the attack happened, after President Biden said that we would find those responsible and make them pay and that he was telling u. S. Military commanders to come up with a plan for doing so, after another very pointed warning of another potential attack, tonight, just a last few minutes u. S. Military saying that they tracked down and killed a planner. Presumably the attention here is that this is one of the planners behind the Kabul Airport attack. Again, this is Breaking News, just happening right now helping us understand, joining us by phone i believe is nbc News Correspondent and our own Courtney Kube. Courtney, thanks for joining us. I know this is breaking right now, thanks for helping us understand. Yeah sure. So we know a little bit more about this, rachel. At this point, this was someone who was an Isis Planner and involved in planning for future attacks by isis. The individual was riding in a vehicle at the time of this Drone Strike, the u. S. Military is confident that they took out this person. Apparently, he was with some sort of an associate. Theyre saying that right now they dont have any reports of Civilian Casualties in this. In fact, they were in a vehicle and they were in an isolated area at the time. So this occurred in nangarhar in, Eastern Afghanistan, east of kabul. And it has been known to have an Isisk Presence for several years now. In fact, it is an area in which there have been a lot of fighting between isisk and the taliban, believe it or not. So, it is not a surprise that this would be where they might try and find someone who might be involved in the planning or the command and control, or someone who is in more of a Leadership Position of isis. So its not a big Isis Present overall in afghanistan, it is estimated to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 to maybe as much as 1200 total fighters. But what we have learned from just this week that was just a small number of spectacular attack and a very deadly attack. That We Saw at Kabul Airport yesterday, rachel. Courtney, there has been a lot of discussion in recent weeks as to whether or not the u. S. Would maintain offensive capacity in afghanistan, even after withdrawing u. S. Troops. And President Biden has spoken very confidently about and over the horizon counterterrorism capability, to strike counterterrorism to strike Terrorist Targets at americas choosing, at the time and place of our choosing. What do we know about the over Horizon Nature of this attack, they described it as a Drone Strike. Is this is sort of thing that could have been done with no u. S. Troops inside afghanistan, or is this the sort of Drone Strike for which It Matter that their u. S. Troops on the ground . So, this was part of that across the Horizon Presence that you mentioned, or over the Horizon Presence. So basically, what that will look like is the u. S. Will have a number of air assets, largely unmanned, that will be parked in a couple of neighboring areas. And when they have we when there is a u. S. Military presence still in the country right now, there is still about 5400 troops right now at Kabul Airport. But they are not really gathering intelligence in the same way that the u. S. , even with 2500 troops and their only a month or two ago, before the drawdown was really completed. The troops were at Kabul Airport, they are focused on one mission and that is evacuation and maintaining security around the airport. People may be surprised to know that prior to the drawdown, when the u. S. Still had a presents a larger presence in afghanistan, they shared a lot of intelligence with the afghans. And the afghan military actually provided a lot of intelligence on groups like isisk. That is one of the things that will be lost in the loss of the afghan Military Presence in and in the afghan. The u. S. No longer has them as a partner together and share intelligence with. So now, the u. S. Will have to rely on and they wont have the Human Intelligence sources that they have the, ground so they will rely on overhead, signaled intelligence that Intercepts Satellite constellations, you know, they have the ability to get things from overhead. But they are nowhere near the same picture they used to have. So i guess the short we have saying it is, they still have eyes on but the picture is much bloodier than it was six months or even a year ago. And courtney, are we even expecting that this, what you are describing, as a Drone Strike on a vehicle carrying a man said to be an Isis K planner, involved in planning for future attacks. That is a pretty specific description about what the pentagon says happened in Nangarhar Province Tonight. Do we expect that this is an opening act, do we expect that this is standalone . Should we expect there to be additional attacks like this, additional targets . So there are likely additional targets that exists that the pentagon is continuing to develop on. But in a case like this, this is going to be a Policy Decision on the White House. They are going to have to make the decision on how they want to respond to this attack in Kabul Airport yesterday. This is a very real, what we are hearing about tonight is a direct retaliation for what occurred at Kabul Airport. The u. S. Has not been regularly taking counterterror strikes in afghanistan. In fact, the last one we know about was in february of 2020, a year and a half ago. So this is a very direct retaliation for what happened at Kabul Airport. The biden administration is going to have to make a decision about how they want to respond. They want to take out something like this that is a retaliation, it may have an impact on future planning and future operations. But this is not going to Decapitate Isis in any way, in that country. This is a response to send a message. Or do they want to do something bigger . Do they want to do something that would really have an impact on Isis Separation going forward . And the next big question theyre going to have to answer is, do they want to make a bigger splash here, do they want to do it while there is still 5000 u. S. Troops on there, or do they want to wait . U. S. Troops are still on track for a full withdrawal by august 31st, just a couple of days away. But again, one thing that viewers should know is it is very clear that this specific strike tonight, this specific Drone Strike is a direct retaliation against Isis K, for the attack at Kabul Airport yesterday. Courtney, let me just ask you one last question. Looking at this map although i was speaking, i was struck by the location of the Nangarhar Province and the fact that it is a Border Province Right up against the pakistani border. So much of the strategy and the difficulty of fighting this war against the taliban and other extremist militants afghanistan over all these years has been the coarseness of that border and indeed, the support in pakistan for so many of the fighters who sought refuge there and essentially were able to refuel, resupply, and shelter there, even while there were Tens Of Thousands of u. S. Troops in afghanistan looking for them. Is this the sort of thing happening in that part of Eastern Afghanistan that the u. S. Talks to pakistan about, that they have to deconflict with pakistan or might that created diplomatic situation with that country . So, as long as they are staying on the afghan side of the border, they do not generally conflicts in any kinds of operations. What is going to be difficult going forward here is the fact that the taliban have now taken over afghanistan. And they are, in many cases, particularly In Kabul right now, they are aligning with the Haqqani Network. The Haqqani Network, another terror group, they have very strong ties to the pakistani Intelligence Services, the i. S. I. So now that the government is going to be very intertwined with pakistan, it is going to be once again across roads for the pakistani government and u. S. Relations. Will pakistan help the u. S. . Will they, you know, be a partner or will they align more with the taliban and then potentially other nefarious groups . Alqaeda and others. I mean, if the most recent history is gives us any signal of what might happen here, in many cases, the pakistani Intelligence Services have not aligned with the u. S. States they have aligned with the Haqqani Network and others. Just to give you a sense of something im sure that our viewers are very well aware of, the that was launched out of Nangarhar Province in jalalabad, into pakistan and as we all know, pakistanis were not given any kind of heads up that the u. S. Relaunching that rate. And again, since we are just talking to what happened on the afghan side of the border, most likely there was not a heads up to the pakistanis before the attack. The long term consequences of all of these things, The Way these things play out overtime becomes more and more opaque with all of these pieces changing, all of these dynamics changing at once. Nbcs courtney kirby, thank you so much for short notice. I have a feeling that we will talking you again as we have more information about this over the course of the night. Again, courtney could be helping us break that news which we have just learned from spokesman for central command, the united states government, the united States Military has retaliated for the isisk, Isis Khorasson attack on the Kabul Airport yesterday. That attack it said to have killed 100 and 70 to 200 afghan civilians and 13 u. S. Service members. President biden said Last Night that the united states would find those responsible and make them pay, a Drone Strike in Eastern Afghanistan in Nangarhar Province Tonight has reportedly killed an Isis K planner, Courtney Kube is reporting one involved in planning for future attacks, we will have more as we learn more. Stay with us. We we upbeat Pop Music in background throughout even if you had to miss your quince. Theres always your quince plus one. I became a Sofi Member because i needed to consolidate my credit card debt. I needed just one simple way to pay it all off. It was an easy decision to apply with sofi loans, just based on the Interest Rate and how much i would be saving. There was only one that stood out and one that actually made sense and that was sofi personal loans. It felt so freeing. I felt like i was finally out of this neverending trap of interest and payments and debt. Interest and payments and debt. You need an ecolab scientific clean here. And you need it here. 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One group pushing this is a pro Trump Group called Americas Frontline doctors. Their founder was arrested after allegedly participating in an attack on the capital on January 6th. And while promoting ivermectin is something of a standard fox news primetime segment these days, the Misinformation And Promotion of it turns out to be a lot bigger online, particularly in gigantic facebook roopes i had no idea existed. But they have created a whole ecosystem to push this stuff and to support Peoples Decision to use it, instead of, say, getting vaccinated. Ben collins, thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you for having me. So one thing that i have been trying to nail down here, is what is driving of the sudden increase in this as a phenomenon . We have seen the hydroxychloroquine, we have seen other stuff promoted as Miracle Cures for covid in the past. We have seen our colleagues at the fox news channel, sadly, promote these seriously. But why is this ivermectin taking off right now . It comes at the end of the year, barnstorming, from groups like Americas Frontline doctors, who were, by The Way, selling ivermectin on the side through consultations as well. So they stirred up a bunch of interest in this thing by going, literally, Church To Church Or School to cool. All throughout the country. And saying, you cannot trust the vaccine, dont inject something, in just something. Take something else. And the thing they have decided to ingest is ivermectin, but a solid as pills. That is a normal thing to take. You figure people are comfortable with bills. But the demand got so high that these people on the Facebook Group were desperate to find it anywhere. And they found it at the feet store. In terms of these Facebook Groups, facebook has taken pains to say they have done more than anybody to counter Covid Misinformation and they dont allow ads for pharmaceutical drugs or this sort of stuff. And they take down this information when they find it. Your reporting suggests that facebook may actually be the single largest dynamic right now, promoting the stuff, encouraging people to try it, encouraging people to not give up if people try to talk them out of it. Telling people we are to get it, how did doses, what to do if they feel sick from getting it. It feels like these facebook troops are, more than anything, driving this phenomenon right now, once those groups created the demand. Its facebook and reddit. Facebook has this one group that has over 25,000 members called ivermectin and the team. He would think that there are doctors and they are giving advice. But the commenters are not doctors. They are just random people trying to same the same or space as everyone else. If you get the Paste Version of this it tastes truly terrible. They cannot stand a taste of it, its very bad, so they try to find other ways to deal with it, through injection or other means i Cant Talk about on television. It is grim stuff and people are overdosing because they have no idea what a milligram is versus a gram. They are taking a lot. And thats why you see these calls to Poison Control centers throughout the country. Then you mentioned reddit they are being another source of misinformation. Youve recently reported that some other people on reddit have taken a more constructive or maybe destructive approach trying to on why or read it, so that the groups on reddit promoting this to have to confront reality. The thing you have to remember is that the majority of people are not like this. They are not looking around for horse medicine. And that is true for every online community whether its facebook or whatever. Reddit had been overrun with people trying to brigade other communities, regular people have stood up, saying two executives that this is enough. We have to stop this. Executives responded in kind and said, guess what, we are not going to do anything. This is all about discourse and discussion. That old trope that you hear from Silicon Valley executives. So these users banded together and have taken over the ivermectin subreddit, that used to be people talking about putting it on crackers, so it would taste less bad. So there is a bit of a triumph here and maybe a playbook for the future as. Well Ben Collins, senior reporter at Nbc News, covering disinformation and the internet. Thank you for helping us understand this. You finally made it make sense to me. Thank you, thanks a lot. All right, well be right back, stay with us. Ck, stay with us r your throat. Feel the clarity, and live claritin clear. Its a wishlist on wheels. A choice that requires no explanation. Its where safe and daring seamlessly intersect. Its understated, yet overdelivers. It is truly the mercedesbenz of sports sedans. Visit your local Mercedesbenz Dealer Today for exceptional Lease And Financing offers. Its taken a lot to get to this moment. Grew up at midnight the maccabees dreams are on the line. You got this. Refresh. It all, comes down, to this. This is just one of those Friday Nights and it is likely to be a very busy News Weekend again. Again the Breaking News this hour that the u. S. Military has retaliated, launched a strike against Isis K, Isis Khorasan, in retaliation for the attack that killed so many u. S. Service members and afghans at the airport yesterday. We are also watching what is a large Hurricane Bearing down on the Gulf Coast and New Orleans specifically. Hurricane ida is going to be a huge deal over the course of this weekend. You need to keep an eye on it. We hope that it turns and it doesnt end up on the track that it looks like it is ending up on tonight. And if you are in the path of hurricane ida,