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Disruptions to our operations. The longer we stay, starting with the growing risk of an attack by a Terrorist Group known as isisk a, we know that Isis Case seeking to target the airport. And attack both u. S. And allied forces, and innocent civilians. Those remarks came nearly five hours after the original scheduled air time, which was noon today, the president added he is asked the State Department and the pentagon to draw up contingency plans, as they do, in case there was a need to adjust the timetable here. Biden says he gave our European Allies and the g7 the very same message, many had wanted the president to extend the mission passed 31 august, the u. S. Has stepped up the pace of evacuations, out of the kabul airport, just today about 12,000 people were flown out. Since the 14th Of August Over 70,000 have been evacuated, there are still some questions about the number of americans still in the country, biden has asked the Secretary Of State to have an exact number for him by tomorrow, today we learned Cia Director William burns, held a secret Face To face meeting yesterday, with the talibans de facto leader, Nbc News confirming this report from the Washington Post. They put it this, Way Biden dispatched his top spy, a veteran of the foreign service, and is the most decorated diplomat in his cabinet. Amid a frantic effort to evacuate people from kabul international airport. Taliban has said it will not budge on that deadline, calling in a effort to extend it crossing a red line. They are now also reportedly blocking afghans who are trying to leave their own country, from traveling to the airport, raising new concerns about the ability to evacuate those who are allied with us. Tonight came word that two members of congress, Seth Mullen of massachusetts, and republican Peter Meijer of michigan, both previously served tours of duty in the military and iraq, well they had both flown unannounced in the kabul airport, in the middle of this ongoing evacuation. Both have been critical, of the administrations handling of this withdraw thus far. Earlier this evening, Speaker Pelosi sent out a letter to members, expressing the asking members not to make such a trip. Along with this crisis in afghanistan, White House of course is trying to stop the relentless spread of the virus here at home, officials say there are signs, more americans are getting vaccinated, they are now seeing about 450,000 shots a day, Thats Way off our highest levels, but it is an increase of over 70 , since just last month. Earlier today, Doctor Fauci offered a cautious indication of when things just might begin to turn around. If we get the overwhelming majority of those 80 to 90 Million people, who are not yet been vaccinated, who have been reluctant to get vaccinated, you are not had the opportunity, i believe we can see light at the end of the tunnel, we reach a point where theres enough of a valid protection for the community, if we do it right and get through the, winter i hope as we get to the spring of 2022, we will be there. Not long ago the Washington Post reported the president has received what it says is an inconclusive classified intelligence report, on the socalled origins of the virus, post says, despite analyzing a raft of existing intelligence, as well as searching for new clues, Intelligence Officials fell short of a consensus. Officials telling the newspaper the Intel Community will seek to Declassify Parts of the report within days. On Capitol Hill Today Democrats Push forward some key parts of the president s domestic agenda, in a two 22 to 12 strictly party line vote, the house voted to move forward with a 3. 5 trilliondollar budget resolution. After the speaker committed to holding a vote on the bipartisan Infrastructure Bill, by september the 27th. House today also passed the John Lewis Voting rights, access to 19 to 12, also along party lines. That measure now heads across to the u. S. Senate. With that, lets bring our starting Front Line on this tuesday evening. Ben rhodes former deputy national Security Adviser for president obama, his latest book is after the fall, being american in the World Weve made. And Andrea Mitchell my colleague for close to 30, years and Bc Washington Correspondent long chief and of course the host of Andrea Mitchell reports on this network. And Sam Stein Veteran journalist, who is No Way Out editor for political. Andrea giving the news tonight, i want to begin with, you seven days to finish this massive and messy evacuation, give us some idea of what this administration is now up, against with the clock ticking. First of, all its only going to be a few more days, because its going to take three or four days to lift the military, that are there, and theyve already reduced it by 300, today or yesterday, its going to take a number of days to move out, and if theyre going to make the August 31st deadline, basically there are two or three more days to evacuate, and people are desperate to give, out people who still cant get to the, Airport Cant get past the, gates i was with a Woman Tonight an afghan woman, pleading with me, to help her husband. And others there addressing a washington obviously women supporters, who have been helping these afghan women, ive been getting calls, emails, i cant tell you how, many from afghan journalist, women i have met as well as mid and i met at the university, that would never have been created under the taliban. Laura bush and others in the Bush Administration helped create. They were telling me how they defy their fathers and allergy to come to kabul, to come to this, so all of these people, the people who are not sivs, and are not Pea Ones urpy twos, and you are not directly connected to american companies or American Military have very little hope of getting out and thats basically the judges the lawyers the Human Rights Activists who have anything else you have targets on their back to say nothing of the way afghan women who have aspirations for an education. Ben, to that end, i know ive asked you some form of this before, what is on the line for us globally, as of tonight . First of all, i think theres a real moral question about whether will do whatever we can to get afghans out hirable. This are people who worked with, us i think you did take Andreas Point about advance who stepped, up some of those people receive government money, usa funding, they started a human Rights Organization or, school we should be getting those people out. And i think even though our global standings is taking a hit for how this worries,ing our capacity to successfully evacuate as many people as we can, including if it goes beyond august 30, first i think does matter, and the message that we send about how we stood by people that stood with us, the bigger play that the biden administration is, making their calculation, here is of course, there is going to be some kind of blow to u. S. Prestigious, you see these types of scenes in afghanistan, and you see a 20year project that lets face it, proceeded Joe Bidens presidency, ending in this kind of cataclysm. At this time, their calculation is look, we have to be able to focus on the problems of now and the future. Thats Climate Change, thats china, Thats Democracy around the world. Thats russia, and frankly will be better positioned, even with the hit were taking with this withdrawal, to have more resources, and more time, and more attentions to put against those challenges. They are going to have to go around the world, and make that case, in europe and other places, which President Biden did today, that while this is very difficult right, now it was inevitable and we have to turn our focus to a really consequential set of issues for the numbers next several decades here. Sam, thats beyond our borders, lets talk domestic politics here, in bidens remarks today, it looks like about 50 voted to his domestic agenda, in your view, is that the old veteran campaign, or correctly summing up his hunch, that primary voters are not going to be motivated to go to the polls, One Way or another . Based on afghanistan . Theres a sense in the White House that is horrible as the past days of been, as much of a hit as weve seen, u. S. Prestigious, taken also bidens political standing, take that ultimately, when were looking at the next midterm elections, this is not going to be a topoftheline issue for voters. That relies a lot and getting the situation under control, and making sure theres no residual impact, for a messy drawdown. But he also concludes, that ultimately, if you can get a massive Infrastructure Deal passed in a few can get a sweeping social Safety Net Agenda passed, like theyre envisioning with the reconciliation package, that is the type of direct pocketbook issues that people do in Fact Care about, when it comes to elections, im not comparing the, to lure quite different politicians, but this is sort of the Trump Model of president ial leadership, which is people really care about bringing troops, home and getting jobs at home, and biden obviously is a different politician, hes much different than trump, but as a sort of broad general thesis of politics, there are some similarities there. Andrea shifting our focus back overseas, will play this for you and our audience, this is former Cia Director reacting to the current Cia Director going over to talk with the Defect Leader of the taliban earlier today. Says the president is serious about sending a senior inexperienced and mystery, to talks with the taliban. To make sure they understand exactly what the u. S. Position is. This administration wants to move forward, and were going to engage with them as necessary. Andrea, please walk everyone watching through the obvious risks of such a mission. On the plus side, it was not a State Department official, it was not conferring legitimacy, it was a Cia Operative in this case, a former diplomat of, course but now working for the cia, so it was Intelligence Official to Taliban Leader, its more of an equal status there, when were talking about security issues, one thing that i thought was very striking, in the president speech today, is that theyve been saying, the State Department, the White House, that the justification is that the mission has been accomplished, the original mission after 9 11, was to make sure that afghanistan could never again become a haven for terrorists, but the rationale, forgetting out by August 31st, is that there is a real risk to the u. S. Now, of isis, k which is a Splinter Group of isis, which of course formed in iraq after we withdrew to quickly from iraq and had to go back in, its inconsistent, that anyone really believes that afghanistan is not going to be a haven for terrorist. Theyre still alqaeda remnants. All of the worst of the worst prisoners were released in kabul, by the taliban, as they made their Lightning Strike March through to the capital to take over. So that is inconsistent, allies has been really furious, ive heard the french in the british talking about this, because Joe Biden came to brussels, we were all in brussels for the nato meeting, im not gonna do it Donald Trump, did not only undermine nato but withdraw from syria, against the advice of his Defense Secretary quit over and at the time. This was against the device of this Defense Accra Terry and chairman of the joint chiefs, and the president decided to gos own. Way i think its because, he was so burnt in 2009 by being the lone voice in the national security council, if you remember this, that he was the lone voice against the surge. And he was really eviscerating, in the former Defense Secretary and former cabinet member, to the Vice President , for always being wrong on Foreign Policy, and he is not forgotten, that and so he was very strong, and stubborn frankly against the advice of the military, and i dont know, but the suspicion, is that the national Security Adviser and Secretary Of State did not want to argue with him about. It they know Joe Biden better than any of us to. But i tell you the hearing, the briefing they did from The Hill today, is a disaster, on both democratic and republican, fronts tied to a leading democrat tonight, who said it was just embarrassing. For them to be presenting this case, because it is so inconsistent. Ben take a minutes and back up the story, as andrea told, its about the inside deliberations during the obama administration. This is consistent where Joe Biden has been since i started working with him in the beginning of our administration, readers the only person, at the table in the situation room, who opposed that surge, was Joe Biden. And his point was, Nation Building is not going to work in afghanistan. We should purely have a Counterterrorism Mission in afghanistan, it requires a much smaller force, and we should be planning a withdrawal for the rest of our forces at a much quicker pace. He obviously lost out on that debate. But i think he maintained a consistent view, that our capacity of Nation Building in afghanistan is not working. Theres counter terrys mission, thats already degraded. Andrea is absolutely right there are going to be continued terror starts from afghanistan. I think with Joe Biden in this administration would say is that Theres Terror starts another country where you dont have u. S. Crown, forces and we can take Military Action with a Drone Strike or an airstrike, and we can reserve the right to do that afghanistan. I think the verdict of this, you talk about global, standing a talk about allies, its kind of what does Joe Biden do next . Where does he take american Foreign Policy . China put a period on this post 9 11 chapter that we lived through. Look when vietnam happened, in 1970, five the u. S. Took a huge hit to our credibility, at the end of that war. 15 year later, we won the cold war. So this is always living legacy here, and i think that what he has to do is show that he can effectively evacuate people, he can affect you resettle afghans assisted bias, and he can deal with counterterrorism challenges going forward, but he can also reposition america to deal with other challenges, from Climate Change to china. Theres no guarantee he will succeed, but his bet is to say that we need to move beyond this period of time that weve been in, frankly the failures in afghanistan have already taken place, and what were seeing is the manifestation of the last 20 years of that mission in afghanistan not succeeding. Obviously this is been handled in a way that put people in risk that terms of afghans that worked for, us they have a window of time here and i think they should extend the deadline if they need to, you because once you pull up stakes and are gone, anybody whos left there is going to have a really hard time to get up. Right now they have to focus on how much can they get people out, and how much can they demonstrate to the world that this is not just about getting out of afghanistan cause theres a political effort at, home but its about repositioning america going forward, to be a stronger and more effective nation in the world that we have been, in Prosecuting A Warrant or. So sam, let me give you the last, word and its in the brass tacks category. By my count, the White House is trying to exit afghanistan, slow down a pandemic, and pass an ambitious domestic program, two out of three not bad . Its a fairly hefty agenda i suppose, i think its fair to say that, the White House felt it wouldve been in a better position at this point on the pandemic, you look back to two or three months ago when they were talking about the revised cdc guidelines of masking, the idea that the summer would be a reentry of society, and we have course took a step back there. Same with afghanistan, the initial idea was that we have an orderly withdrawal, as much as you can have one. By september 11. You would commemorate 20 years of the war with some sort of commemoration. In that would be the end of that going policy. And you have the infrastructure plan. All of these urban pushback, all of the deadlines have been missed. All of the expectations that the biden administration had for success, had been downgraded. At this juncture, if you look at, its hard to see where you can scroll what they would be categorized in a clean cut when. They feel very bullish about the fact that they got 70,000 people out of kabul, and its a notable achievement. But depends point, i think the Big Question is what comes next. They have to push back the August 31st deadline . In terms of the delta variant, and actually maybe a little bit more optimistic about getting in our gun, trouble happens in the fall. And schools begin to go back to learning, we have this Reconciliation Deadline thats up in the air because moderates have done over the past couple of days. A lot of balls in the air, ice expect will be very happy brand. Great conversation from our frontline tonight. Ben rhodes, Andrea Mitchell, sam stein, greatly appreciate you starting us off this evening. Thank you. Coming up for, us is It Safe to go back to school . Alas the public Health Expert who has some thoughts on keeping 55 Million school children, from turning our classrooms into breeding grounds for this new variance, and later, republicans hoping to pave afghanistan is a biden disaster, just in time for the midterms, but some stubborn facts may get in there, way among them the Deal Trump made with the taliban, all of it as the 11th Hour is just getting underway. On a Tuesday Night. On a Tuesday Night on a Tuesday Night and our customers rated us 1 for Network Quality on a Tuesday Night in america according to j. D. Power. Number one in reliability, 16 times in a row. Most awarded for Network Quality, 27 times in a row. Proving once again that nobody builds networks like verizon. Thats why were building 5g right, thats why theres only one best network. Did you know Prilosec Otc can stop frequent heartburn before it begins . Heartburn happens when Stomach Acid refluxes into the esophagus. 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The Associated Press reports, covid outbreaks have already delayed or closed down Inperson Learning in over a dozen of our states. In his latest, column our next guest warns quote, we have to proceed with, question we must recognize that the pandemic is in a new and highly dangerous stage, that puts children at far more risk than we had anticipated. We are happy to have back with us Doctor Irwin red liner, founder he advises us on public health, hes also an adviser of pediatrics October Einstein college of medicine, dr. , is there a given variables between states, is there a Blanket Way of saying, we must do x, to ensure kids back in the classroom, across the country, for Inperson Learning in the fall . Yes brian, so theres a lot we can say and do about, this but the first thing is we have to dispel some assumptions as some people of, may look at the map right, now where covid is most intense, its in the under vaccinated states, with a lot of communities spread, if you looked at it as a static image, you might say, well the northeast would be living in a bubble, and we dont have to worry about. It but i would say definitively, theres a lot more that we dont know about the delta variant, how it spreads, how its going to spread in the future, in one of the variants might be out there. We may feel secure in various parts of the country, but we should not get too complacent about it. We can have some principles that should be applied nationally, to make sure we are protecting children, starting with the fact that no adult Human Being should enter a school at all if they have not been vaccinated, no exceptions for religion, for anything else except maybe some severe medical conditions, absolute mandatory vaccinations for every single adult, teacher and otherwise working in the schools, number two, we need to enforce maskwearing. In every classroom. For every child, especially brain those kids under the age of 12 who are not even eligible to be vaccinated yet. Thirdly, for kids over 12, we should, they need to be required to vaccinate as well. And finally, it seems like a technical issue, brian but the reality is we really do need to make sure the Ventilation Systems are working properly and all the classrooms, this is going to be a tough road to hear, but we want to keep our kids safe and an unknown and increasingly dangerous pandemic, we have to buckle down, and we need to do and we need to do brain. Because your pediatrician by training, this tweet caught my eye last, Night Governor Kristi noem of South Dakota, from friends, staying on mega brand, has tweeted about, avoiding mandates in her states, we will put it up on the screen, she vows a Vaccine Mandate War as the News Week Headline put, it thats her tweet at the bottom, if Joe Biden illegally mandates vaccines i will take every action available to put under the law the federal government, to which democratic Senator Murphy completed out, the South Dakota law that requires any Dakota Law that requires any people entering Scurrynth Plan from Colonial Penn . I am. 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We should be spending our time on this right here. Looking at the past, speaking to mr. Pompeo, speaking to the former president , i know this would not have taken place. As the biden administration takes on both foreign and domestic crises, republicans as you may have heard their, see political opportunity. The mcclatchy News Service pointed out this way quote, while biden has to contend with harrowing images of afghans trying to flee after the taliban takeover, former President Donald Trump orchestrated the withdrawal agreement, and another potential 2024 gop contender, that would be Mike Pompeo was photographed with the Taliban Leader who is not among those Taking Charge of afghanistan. So it is a good time to have back with us tonight don calloway, democratic Strategist And Founder of the national Voter Protection Action fund. And susan Del Percio Msnbc political analyst and a veteran political strategist. Good evening, thank you to you both. Don, former Vice President Mike Pence today join today all of It Piling on biden, some of it a olympic cold Train Lighting Version of gaslighting, and rewhiting history. But who do we see about that . Immigrants game of things, at this point, Mike Pences opinion is about as useful as an ashtray on a motorcycle. I dont understand that he i mean this is a position that the administration came up with. This administration came and Joe Biden followed through on it. We can debate the wisdom of Joe Biden following through on it, and i do think that we should give Joe Biden a little bit of credit with the thoughtfulness and the planning are not going at it unilaterally as we thought he probably did when he decided at the beginning. But at the end of the day, this is trump pence policy. If they were still in office, they would be defending it to the fullest. Whatever he has to say, who really cares. Mitch Mcconnells Opinion actually matters because he is the senate leader. At the end of the day, i just find it so ironic and so mesmerizing that this is the precise opinion that they would be defending if they were still in office. Susan, what about this reporting from The Hill that republicans see this crisis as a Recruitment Tool for future candidates. Does that assume that midterm voters are going to be motivated by afghanistan or does it assume some kind of Biden Weakness instead . It assumes a Biden Weakness. And there is something to that, President Biden is continually facing negative stories coming out of afghanistan, which will happen, brian. We will see stories of those who will be left behind, who couldnt get behind over the next year, potentially. And they will be heartbreaking, and they will be something the republicans will take advantage of. That being said, the other major concern that i think the biden administration has to look out for is do we see a return of alqaeda in a very influential position with the taliban . Its happened before. Does this happen . Do we see Terror Attacks . These are huge concerns obviously for any administration, but there is some argument that the region is less safe without the americans there, even a small force. So yes, i do think theyll use it. I do not think, however, that the evacuation will be a major issue comes a midterm election. Don, our friend Don Edwards writes this about domestic politics in washington in the Washington Post, progressives may not be the house majority, but most will win their reelection and the same cannot be said for many of the moderates. They need progressives to give money and raise money for their campaigns. Progressives and moderates need to get on the democratic train. Their political majority depends on it. Don, talk for a second about how pelosi house to balance the inner factions in her caucus. Whether you are on the state level, or here in washington d. C. , it is very difficult to be a leader of the democratic Senate Or House caucus. Thats because, ideologically, democrats are the party of the big ten. We have moderates, and even conservatives within the rank of the democratic party, whereas republicans tend to unite around white supremacy, and white and voter suppression. So that is the context. Its very difficult to get five people to agree that the sky is blue, or your name is brian williams, because how can you get them all to agree on the size of an infrastructure package, or even what infrastructure means, as were seeing that definition evolve from bridges, and roads and tunnels to Human Infrastructure such as public and Education And Fiber arc, sticks and so on. That is the fundamental challenge of a broad and diverse and vibrant democratic party, which looks like the country. That is the leadership model. Thats why takes a very strong leader like Nancy Pelosi, shes pointing out a fundamental challenge that comes with leading a diverse geographically age and racially and ethnically very diverse caucus. And susan, finally, when mccarthy says we cant possibly take up this Infrastructure Measure while afghanistan is going on, what does that read like to you . Is that an Instruction Plus Straw grasping . Yeah. Its just desperation. Mccarthy has nothing else to go on. He knows that this Infrastructure Bill is popular. Plus, with the deal that Nancy Pelosi put forward today, with a date of September 27th on a vote for infrastructure, that is a clock that is in place that mccarthy is going to have to deal with, because there are a lot of members of his caucus. A lot of republicans who have signed on to support the Infrastructure Bill, kevin mccarthy, can use Donald Trumps Talking Points all he wants as he tries to get money from Donald Trump for his candidates, but it is not going to work. Two great minds on this stuff, both friends of our broadcast don calloway, susan del percio, thank you both so much for coming on and helping us out tonight. Coming up. The confusion and crowds and chaos in kabul as americas presents their begins to come to an end. Om to an end. So the president s deadline to withdraw troops from afghanistan, exactly one week away. Many are still desperately waiting and trying to get out, Again Tonight we watch these final days of american presence in afghanistan through the eyes and the lens of our Veteran Chief Foreign Correspondent who spent so many years covering our longest war and survive several close calls there. Here Again Tonight, Richard Engel in kabul. Again tonight, richar at kabl airport, time is running out. The u. S. And Nato Allies have just one week to pull out all their citizens and vulnerable afghans after the taliban today, again insisted they accept no exception beyond August 31st, or there would be consequences. The u. S. Embassy apparently feeling the strain issuing a final alert for american citizens to leave tonight or they would be on their own, then recalling it 30 minutes later. This is an extremely busy airfield, every ten minutes planes are coming in and there are not just from the united states. Weve seen them from the uk, australia, civilian aircrafts, this is a truly global airlift. These Satellite Images show the huge crowds trying to leave the airport. But now, finally, the departures are going smoothly. We watched a qatari Air Force Plane bound for doha being loaded. As they monitor air forces. But will the airlifts be done in the week . Maybe, but it will be difficult. U. S. Troops dont just need to fly out afghans, but also themselves. We just left kabul airport, and you go through the american Jet Point and then your headed toward is another checkpoint. You see a bunch of uniforms, you see soldiers in black jackets, eye protection, new weapons, and fours, perfect conditions they know how to carry them, but theyre not american soldiers. Theyre the taliban. The images are hard to believe, that this is how the united states is ending its longest war. American troops just yards from the taliban helping the u. S. Get out and go home. The taliban or now on almost every corner in kabul. They werent hostile to us or anyone we saw. The taliban claimed to have found tolerance since they were in power two decades ago. The old Try Color Flag still flies, in kabul for now is calm. Traffic cops from the u. S. Government has returned to work. The taliban move them and they are giving the orders. There is an old Taliban Expression that the americans have the watches and they have the time. It seems they were right. And the americans time is about to run out. Brian, here in kabul the taliban or now extremely confident, confident that they won, confident that they are getting the united states to withdraw on their terms and they are very well armed. So people here and afghanistan now have two choices, get out, tried to get on one of those last flights in these last few days or stay and accept the taliban at that word that they really have changed. Brian . Richard engel thank you for that Reporting Tonight in kabul, it comes along with our wishes and those of all our colleagues and friends that you and your crew stay safe. Coming up as President Biden pointed out today, a lot now depends on the Talibans Willingness to cooperate. We will ask our national Security Analyst for his take next. His tak next rizon lets you trade in your broken phone for a shiny new one. You break it. We upgrade it. You dunk it . Crash it . Yikes. Doggy boneit . Haha slam it, wham it, Strawberry Jamit . We upgrade it every customer. Current, new or business. Up to 800 for the 5g Phone you want. Because everyone deserves better. Put my phone in the washer. And the dryer. My hygienist cleans with a round head. So does my oralb my hygienist personalizes my cleaning. So does my Oralb Oralb delivers the wow of a professional clean feel every day. To review the pentagon said today the daily communication with the taliban commanders will likely continue, we also learned today that the Cia Director met with the taliban enough ghana stand yesterday, and the president said today, meeting the August 31st deadline, to leave afghanistan, depends on whether or not the taliban goes along. Here with us to talk about it is a West Point Graduate army veteran, for me and distinguished Research Fellow at the Foreign Policy research institute. Clint, lets do what you do best, and that is threat assessment. Tell us what you know about this new Isis K that were just starting to hear about. It sounds like a fat burning dietary substitute, you see on instagram. It is indeed very serious business, biden is worried about them attacking the, airport are the taliban worried about them and other Sub Terrorist groups . Within their nation because after all their some point they have to join would is join the community of nations. Thats right brian, when we think about the taliban versus the u. S. , were looking at two parties that have a shared interest in the u. S. Leaving. Thats why we are seeing basically some peaceful negotiations at this point with the taliban playing somewhat nice particularly by taliban standards. The Wild Card on all of this is isis. When we heard of isis, the islamic state picking up in syria and iraq, which you see is Affiliates Branch out around the world, very similar to the way alqaeda, or isis in afghanistan was one of those stronger ones, that emerged at the time of the islamic state reached its height. The islamic state unfolded in syria, they were one of the ones that remains strong, they dont really hold territory, they have been reduced in strength, but they can play spoiler, meaning they can execute an attack at the airport. Or against any sort of western target, or the taliban, and create some sort of a quagmire, which would bring the u. S. , and the taliban back into conflict, if that were to happen, that sort of devastates what President Biden talks, about and its something that the cia is talking about with the taliban as well. Can you see a scenario where we either asks, or say, weve got to have a few extra days . After the president s remarks today, how about we use the remaining seven days getting people out, and then we need a couple of extra days just to get remaining u. S. Military. I could see that scenario, but i would i also see is, you will still see extractions of americans, american allies, all the way through the rest of the year i imagine, something that were not really talking about, because everything is very much focused on kabul airport, is the northern territories, pakistan, kirk extent, were already seeing some of the allies slip across those borders to the north, this is seen as more protected territory, i also would not be surprised to see over the next year or more, that there will be pockets, essentially places where there will be extractions of allies, interpreters, those that could not make it to the, borders to thirdparty countries, or possibly even random airlifts that she would see out of the country, in addition, well past August 31st. Thats a great point, im glad you made it. I read somewhere this week that the taliban now owns more black hawks than the australian military, but flying them without the foreign contractors, and air crews, is a different discussion. Clint, we will have you back, thank you so much for your time. In expertise on this. Still unfolding story tonight. Coming, up he was an elegant man, a renaissance man, a true gentleman. Though you might know him as a rather successful drummer, in his spare time, tonight we look back on a legend. Back on a legend for your best back to school smile, crest has you covered. Nice smile, brad nice thanks . Crest, the 1 Toothpaste Brand in america. Its time for the biggest sale of the year, on the new Sleep Number 360 smart bed. It helps keep you effortlessly comfortable by sensing your movements and automatically responding to both of you. And, its Temperature Balancing to help you stay comfortable all night. It even tracks your circadian rhythm, so you know when youre at your best. 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Charlie watts was born in london as the city was still smoldering after the blitz in 1941. He showed early talent as the Poly Mat he later became in adulthood, he was a writer, an artist, and world class collector. He was a breeder of arabian horses. And he famously sketched every Hotel Room he stayed in for the last 50 years. As a kid, he tried the banjo, but got frustrated, cut the neck off, used as a snare drum, and a star was born. Stardom, and Charlie Watts they never really got along too well. He was a reluctant icon to say the, leads to except for a two Year Adventure with heroin, and related substances, lived a clean civilian, life and was married to the same woman for 57 years. Onstage, well keith and mick tore it up, charlie toned it down. He always played a basic, Old School for piece kit. His posture was perfect, his bearing was much more like a professor at the London School of economics. Charlie watts, was indelible, instantly recognizable, his role in Rock And Roll history is enshrines forever. It was never in doubt. If the beatles change the world, the stones taught at how to dance. And all the while, through the decades and on 30 albums, Charlie Watts kept the time. He drove the bands. A quiet man who spoke with his sticks. And with those two pieces of wood in his hands, he spoke volumes, and left us anthems to mark our time together here on earth. That is our broadcast for this tuesday evening. With our thanks for being here with. Us on behalf of all of our colleagues, at the networks of Nbc News, goodnight. Nbc news, goodnight. Tonight all on in. As a pandemic spikes in states like South Dakota, florida the cruel irony of republican leaders fearmongering over foreigners as coronavirus runs wild. This is a dangerous part of the world, we know that we have a lot of dangerous people there that want to do the united states harm. 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